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PostSubject: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyThu Sep 08, 2016 12:47 pm

If you are conscious of your own consciousness, does it not override any mental illnesses that may occur? where your awareness regards it as something of a happening as all things are?
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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyThu Sep 08, 2016 12:57 pm

To become aware of and discriminate (Choose) between what is 'healthy' and what is 'ill' precedes any and all forms of healthiness.

Therefore 'Reason' is the highest form of health. If a person is ill, and believes herself healthy, then she is doubly ill.
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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyThu Sep 08, 2016 1:10 pm

I was thinking that reason or rationality is instantly an automatic state of being, where realization just is and consciousness of it is continuously so, but i'm not sure if this makes the being immune by default, in any absolute sense, but rather an ongoing stabilizing of adjustment which draws from reason in order to maintain self up against the natural environmental friction of reality in relation to the individual DNA resilience capacity
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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyThu Sep 08, 2016 1:19 pm

Maybe reason or rationality are bad words to use since they both seem to be hijacked by modernity.
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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyFri Sep 09, 2016 11:57 am

Healthy:
Fitness of the organism's aggregate energies to deal with Flux.
Because Flux = (inter)activity, which, in turn is how we experience existence, existence is then process of attrition producing randomness, to which order stands in contrast.
Order is expressed and interpreted as a higher manifestation of order, which in relation to Flux has managed not to only resist but to increase the breadth (growth manifesting in time/space dimensions) and the quality of its order, its symmetry, proportionality, measure (balance, eloquence, flexibility).
This is expressed in two context...mental/physical which is truly the same order approached as noumenon and/or as phenomenon.

Beauty, physical symmetry, proportionality, indicating reproductive probability (promise) is the phenomenal expression of order, and it is inherited, and therefor not a product of the particular individual's will (actions, choices) - inherited sum of all nurturing, or nature, is the presence of potential.

Intelligence, mental symmetry, creativity, humor, reasoning, nobility of spirit, will, adaptability, imagination, is this inheritance engaging Flux (world) immediately.

All organism's dependent on order, being forms of order(ing) are attracted by both physical and mental symmetry.
Physical symmetry is obvious, sensually perceived, whereas mental symmetry requires a closer, more intimate evaluation, using symbols (words, language, code = intellectual intercourse).

Inherited physical symmetry, a product of resisted stress, may not lead to the cultivation of its fullest potential, when stress has been reduced due to environmental conditions, such as sheltering, or due to the organism's very success.
With no challenges, the process of atrophy begins.

Inherited mental symmetry, is more inconspicuous, but affected by the same processes as physical symmetry, because mind is the projection of brain processes and brain is the hub of the organism's nervous system - connecting conduit between body/mind.
Mental symmetry may inherit a inferior potential increasing its stress, which, in turn, forces the cultivation of both physical and mental potentials to their fullest, or to a degree proportional to the level of stress its inheritance forces upon it, with change occurrences factoring in as the random.

Health in biological Evolutionary contexts is simply reproductive prowess and prolificacy - fitness.
In human contexts where genes are extended as memes, this reproductive fitness can express itself as ideology, fertilizing multiple minds.
The seductive, attractive potential of the mind measured by how many it can inseminate with its ideals, making philosophy into an erotic intercourse, where sexuality ceases to be obvious having been converted to an abstraction.
Sexuality now becomes inconspicuous as it determines the qualities of the minds the physical may contradict.

Here fitness must be placed within idea(l), determining the quality of minds the particular ideology will be accepted and flourish - in genetic the female's body may reject the male's sperm, though her mind has accepted him as a worthy mate.    
 

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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyFri Sep 09, 2016 12:20 pm

Rules of attraction, given by Weininger, states the vague percentile of masculinity/femininity - 20%male/80% female will find the "perfect" mate in a 80%male/20% female where, in a fluid environment (flux) may slightly vary from day to day, resulting in attraction/repulsion variants that characterize sexual relationships, or rather all human relationships.  

The factor I want to add to this is meme, expressed as moral, ideology, principles and so on, but also the factor of self-esteem, or self-evaluation...because know thyself is still not an absolute but dependent on the process of an individual's awakening to himself as an object among other object in existence (being among beings - thing among things).
Judgment is also not perfect, not absolute, therefore its quality may determine a fluctuation of over-under-estimation of self, and as it will of otherness.
Psychological this will be expressed as a almost daily fluctuation of self-esteem.
Trauma, like a wound covered by a scar, making the skin insensitive, inflexible, may result in either extreme under-estimation of self (modesty, self-deprecation etc.), or in a compensating over-estimation (narcissism), with sheltering being another external factor producing over-estimation of self in relation to environment or others.

I mention this because the psychology of the evaluating mind will determine who it will find attractive, both physically and mentally.
This corrupts the Weininger formula, by changing the percentages of actual masculine/feminine attributes to self-assessments of one's own masculine/feminine attributes.
Furthermore, from a psychological (mental) context, it determines how physical/mental traits are judged.
The result being that of what we conventionally express with the sentence "opposites attract", referring to Weininger's formula of attraction but also to the phenomenon of determining which balance we will mentally/psychologically choose, in contradiction to our physical desires.

An individual with low self-esteem may consciously choose someone who compensates for his weaknesses producing the "follower" or the submissive type.
Such minds will find itself gravitating towards individuals that exude the energy they feel is absent in them. The old "you, complete me" bull.
An individual with high self-esteem will gravitate towards one who is more like him, or possesses the attributes the individual appreciates highly in himself, keeping in mind the over-under-estimation inherit in all judgments.


The quality of a mind's judgment is determined by many factors, such as experience with stress, and how it managed to not be corrupted by it, sensual acuity, imagination resisting the temptations of fantasy, objectivity, as the degree the mind can reduce the effects of emotion, self-interests, ego, and so on, from its evaluations, and how much it will surrender to the easiness of its subjective preferences.
Best way to evaluate self, is to take the consequences of your choices, actions, and accept responsibility for them, before you seek causes in others.  
In extreme cases of narcissism and modesty this simple practice will clarify your esteem of self.

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PostSubject: Re: What does it mean to be healthy? What does it mean to be healthy? EmptyFri Sep 09, 2016 1:03 pm

Moderns seeking “completion” in others, is due to the loss of past/nature in their identification.
The loss is experiences as confusion, absence, a longing, an emptiness they cannot understand, turning to the immediate world for gratification, for fulfillment.
This is also part of health and the dis-ease of Nihilism.

Having rejected their own past/nature, because they demand more, they believe they "deserve" more, they replace this void with quantity of others, who are of questionable quality.
The other, again, becomes a way of unburdening themselves of their own culpability, when presence/appearance is the manifestation of past/nature.
Selectively, or completely denying their past/nature the emptiness is filled in with immediate gratification, temporary fixes, distractions, excuses.

Forgetting self, partially, makes it impossible to go through the process of acceptance and accurate appreciation.
The self is reduced to ego, deciding which parts of the past/nature flatter it, or offer it an easy inflation.
This affects the judgment choosing associations. The individual surrounds himself with flatterers (sycophants), shows an inability to appreciate his own choices without hyperbole, demands the extraordinary - sense of entitlement, - overestimating his past pains so as to justify his present pleasures.

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