Absolute Flow

Would anybody consider a continuous state of flow, constant activity evidence for absoluteness?

This activity is not necessarily limited to human life or biological life on earth.

Provided one can consciously comprehend the limitations of consciousness in order to consider such constant activity as evidence for absoluteness?

If no, then what evidence would ever be accepted to the conscious mind?

In this particular period and region, even though humans are considered the most advanced beings in relation to this earth, they seem incredibly low level, with the exception of a few who are almost alien to the self of human relation, where timelessness is entered. Which to me seems to be a platform of growth, and the advancement is not necessarily slow, if the self consciously wills itself into understanding, then awareness of timelessness is realized. I guess the evolution of this determines the level of fixture of this awareness, it doesn't seem to be definitely structured, possibly because of no absolutes relative to a time based being, but you can not move faster than that which is already determined naturally, which probably explains the adjusting into a fixture over time, creating stages. This could explain certain differences of races, and individuals, As i'm not entirely sure if it moves as a complete gathering, it doesn't seem so.

Being unconscious, then conscious, then self-conscious, then conscious of self-consciousness..is where i am, most, literally almost all people i come across seem only conscious and some of them self-conscious...but my evolution of self-conscious to conscious of self-consciousness is a developing progress in the time of my being, and it's on shaky grounds, it isn't bad, i'm relatively pleased with it. I'm not to sure what comes after this state/stage, but i'm not sure my body and mind could handle it, speaking of course from those shaky grounds of a previous state to which i'm relating my projected imagination upon, but i guess when those grounds stabilize it will allow for a new stage of development.

If the multi-verse theory falls through, then doesn't it default to an absolute constant, which technically would be cosmic as well since there would only be one universe at that point?

Would you say that death is a human construct?

mannequin wrote:

Would you say that death is a human construct?

I just wanted to comment on this. The Abrahamic conception of death assumes a 'soul'. The 'soul', being that awareness we have that develops alongside the ability for object permanence when we're young.

This 'soul' becomes what is absolutely [denied experience or phenomenon] - we imagine as absolute void when imagining death. The 'soul' itself is imagined as existence outside bodies/nature or flux - as a phantom projected beside/against memories within a [neuron cosmos] of [on/off] or [1/0], which we project our own motives and intentions onto. The [neuron cosmos] being our own brain.

Death, in the empirical sense, is not disconnected from the method(s). One may have a heart attack, die by cancer or be decapitated. The separation of death from body is why one is unable to celebrate it - they imagine that with death so also goes all of their legacy, becoming deceased, where it actually continues (even still today).

All symbols are human constructs, including the ones which negate life absolutely. Death, in the Abrahamic sense, is a human construct. The sense most connected to nature, allowing legacy to be included in the definition, is less 'human' and more 'truthful' - though it always maintain a human aspect, being that it is the human which utilizes the concept. If you want to be absolutist about it, all experience we interpret and utilize is a human construct - or none at all.

mannequin wrote:

Would you say that death is a human construct?

Death just means an end to the congruity of patterns from where consciousness emerges.

The patterns do not end, they return to the flux, but consciousness of the flux, the life they produced, does end.

My understanding of "soul/spirit" is a past/nature.
The organism's soul is the sum of all the events, (inter)actions, causes that made it possible.
This is part of its genetic memory.
For this to continue the memories have to be passed on either genetically (procreation) or memetically (creation).
If not the continuity, the causal chain of memory, is broken. The patterns that participated in the congruity return to Flux.

I guess raising consciousness as the flux itself or consciousness that also returns to the flux as one is where modern spiritualism kind of begins, as previously mentioned.

It's interesting that a lot of pioneers of science believe in an absolute.

mannequin wrote:

It's interesting that a lot of pioneers of science believe in an absolute.

If deep down inside, they truly believed, would they be pioneers?

Why bring further order, unless your intent was to establish an order of your own...

Science is not immune to the dis-ease....
Absolutes are part of how the mind thinks.
When consciousness is still primitive it confuses its own inner voice, for god's voice, and we have Jayne's Bicameral Mind.
Later this evolves into mistaking one's own abstractions (noumena) for divine phenomena.

The Big Bang and the seeking of the "beginning" point, the Omega point, - elusive singularity - is one based no a presupposition of an absolute.
It will never be found, of course, but that they think it is out there, waiting to be discovered, is about their own projections.
M-Theory for some is this belief in the discovery of absolute knowledge, the fabric of the uni-verse, the merging of Newtonian and Quantum physics.
Search for the Holy Grail.
Scientists are human.
Many of them dare not study reality when it comes to humans and sexual, racial differences, because their careers would be in jeopardy, because many of them are infected with the virus, because they are heavily dependent on funding, and because they and their families would be placed at risk.