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PostSubject: Re: Alt-Right Alt-Right - Page 6 EmptyWed May 29, 2019 11:29 am

I've seen a lot of them abandon race as a topic and redirect into Christianity. E Michael Jones and everything downstream of that. It has the feel of a retreat from a dangerous topic into a more neutral, more abstract, less real one. Charlottesville really broke their minds. Kind of pathetic how easily they were dismantled.

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PostSubject: Re: Alt-Right Alt-Right - Page 6 EmptyWed May 29, 2019 11:39 am

It can be a smart strategic retreat.
The masses cannot relate to the threatening, on an objective level. They need emotion, the comforting, the easy.
Without the masses nothing is possible in a world with no accessible frontiers - humanity, on the planet, is world. Humanity is replacing all organic self with ideological variants of itself.
To a simpleton, ideas about reality minus an anthropomorphic idol, are impossible.

The process will have to follow the reverse process that got us to this state of degeneracy.
We reached here by 'overcoming' the infantile imagery of Abrahamism, towards the post-modern abstraction phase.....so the way back to paganism let's say, will have to go through Abrahamism again.
Then they can be offered the anthropomorphic imagery of paganism replace the Christian ones - at least for European populations.
The layman, the average dolt, needs imagery to relate to and find comfort in.

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PostSubject: Re: Alt-Right Alt-Right - Page 6 EmptyWed May 29, 2019 11:42 am

It's not an improvement when the so called radicals are becoming deradicalized. I'm not optimistic about this.

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A return to Spartan culture, for example, would be too shocking for masses of morons born and raised I sheltering modern systems - to them anything preceding Jesus is fascistic.
Ancient Athens would seem like a Nazi system to them - associating anything threatening with the imagery of Nazism - their programmed reference point for anything disturbing and threatening - its' how imbeciles think.
Like animals....imagery, associating them with emotions, sensations, feelings.

Manimals.

I've used Putin as a good example of how the return to nationalism for the Russians, has to go through Orthodox Christianity - leaving behind the more levelling disease of Marxism.
Recuperation takes time and patience, without the certainty that the healing will succeed.
The insecurities and vulnerabilities Christianity comforted, and then Marxism sheltered, are still present among the masses.

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PostSubject: Re: Alt-Right Alt-Right - Page 6 EmptyWed May 29, 2019 11:49 am

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It's not an improvement when the so called radicals are becoming deradicalized. I'm not optimistic about this.
I'm never optimistic when the objective depends on base manimals and gaining popularity among them.
Manimals, like animals, are unreliable, easily frightened and manipulated.

The circumstances of absent accessible frontiers, necessitate their participation.

Why do you think I say that this process of degradation cannot be stopped.....but only survived?
Purging will occur naturally.
Generations of un-culled reproduction cannot be reversed in a generation or two. Too much crap has filtered through into the European gene-pool.
These cannot be rehabilitated.

Even among the alt-Right there are radical imbeciles who take things too far.

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There are imbeciles, calling themselves alt-right, who do not accept the common ancestry of human races, unable to accept the fact that all races diverge from a common ancestor - the basis of Evolution theory; others centre the white race on Nordics - others advocate anarcho-capitalism, and idiotic ideologies like that.
There's all types of stupid.

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The ideal would be to reboot, returning to as pre-Christian, pagan, spirituality, and a pre-democracy, timocratic socio-economic system - updated due to accumulated knowledge and understanding - but this is unrealistic.

We have to think pragmatically, within the current circumstances.

If, and when, frontiers open up, then the circumstances will change.
Until then....we must strategize, preserve, and prepare, accordingly.
The masses cannot be escaped...think of them in different terms. Ideologies have produced social species - memetic species.  Do not think of humanity as one big family.
We're in the age of information - memes.  We distinguish and differentiate according to memes.

Giving the masses Christianity, does not mean you identify with their choice....but its necessary, like giving hey to a horse, or a bone to a dog.
The masses of mediocrity cannot be controlled with truths...but with lies. they need lies.

Truths and the pursuit of them, are for the few who can endure them - philosophers.

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PostSubject: Re: Alt-Right Alt-Right - Page 6 EmptyThu May 30, 2019 1:56 am

Would we return through Christianity? I don't see a return to Spring through the Fall.

Something tells me that even given a return to Paganism, the existence of "Pagans" like Survive the Jive among others who worship absolutes, ridicule metaphors, and care more about superficial rituals than having a masculine attitude, would still exist and serve as the hidden carriers for a future version of the same disease.

The masses need lies, but some lies are more grounded in the real than others, which is why Paganism held a strong immunity for so long towards positive nihilism, until it succumbed under its own sheltering with Rome.

The Secular West's inevitable clash with the Christian/Buddhist East, if destructive enough, might cripple both and allow for the rebirth of a Pagan Spring.

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It's true, the mediocre - majority - will always need the same stories and abstractions.
No doubt, even the average citizen of ancient Athens believed in their gods and heroes literally, and not as representations.
Spring follows winter, and we are entering into it. Soon we'll be in a deep freeze of the Dark Ages.
Nobody can predict how long this winter will be. Empires and civilizations decline at different rates, depending on the virility of the culture they are based on.
Americanism, the civilization of culture-of-no-culture, for the masses, and Magian occultism for the elites, is founded no Abrahamic culture, or spirituality.
So, it may take a while, because it feeds off victimhood and degradation.

I'm hoping that this clash with the Chinese behemoth will be the traumatic event that will permit paganism to grow stronger and establish itself in Europe.
When a culture declines it leaves a void that has to be filled. Some is filled by the antagonist, but fissures remain that cannot be covered by what is alien to the psychology of the people.
It's why Judaism became Christianity - adapting to Aryan spirituality, as much as it could, and why Judaism changes Zoroastrianism and Egyptian spirituality when those tribes came in contact with them.

A meme - any idea - changes when it is transmitted to another mind. It is changed by the particular genetics of the specific organism.

"Pagan Spring" will come, but it will not be a Paganism of any previous era - no absolutes means nothing is ever repeated in the same way. Paganism will adapt to its previous experience with Magian spirituality, into something more resistant to it.
Like the Jews found in Nietzsche a hero because of his critique of Christianity, picking and choosing how to interpret him in a way that left them outside their field of impact. Their animosity towards the Christian threat on their dogma, made him a hero of their cause.
All interpret and reinterpret the antagonist in a way that revitalize them - like an organism is made immune to a virus only after it has fought it off.



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Censorship, like all forms of coercive repression, multiplies the power of the repressed.

During prohibition, alcohol became cool; making drug use illegal, only makes it all the more seductive to the young.
The effect of making certain ideas illegal, will make them irresistible - even the feeble ones will gain respectability, simply by proving to be 'dangerous' to society.

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Ironically many Americans no longer believe in the very idea of 'freedom' having become disillusioned by its American application and definition, as material choices and service options.
American 'individualism' is still clinging to its 'wild-west' frontiersman attitude - the mindset of the desperate seeking an escape from circumstances it cannot endure.
The ideal of individuality has acquired an Abrahamic idealization - on detached from the root of individuality - what the ancient-Greeks called the 'polis'. We can replace the 'polis' with the idea of specie.
There is no individual without a group, and no group without the individual.

Species and race are intertwined with the concept of individuality. The individual is both a representation and a consequence of species, and species is propagated through individuals.

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Dugin, Alexandre wrote:
In each of the three ideologies there is a clearly defined historical subject.
In liberal ideology, the historical subject is the individual. The individual is conceived as a unit that is rational and endowed with a will (morality). The individual is both a given and the goal of liberalism. It is a given, but one that is
often unaware of its identity as an individual. All forms of collective identity — ethnic, national, religious, caste, and so on — impede an individual’s awareness of his individuality. Liberalism encourages the individual to become himself, that is, to be free of all those social identities and dependencies that constrain and define the individual from outside. This is the meaning of liberalism (in English, liberty; in Latin, libertas): the call to become ‘liberated’ (Latin: liber) from all things external to oneself. Moreover, liberal theorists (in particular, John Stuart Mill)[58] underscored the fact that we are talking about a ‘freedom from’,[59] about the release from ties, identifications, and restrictions that are an imposition upon the individual’s will. As for what the purpose of this freedom is, liberals remain silent. To assert some kind of a normative goal is, in their eyes, to restrict the individual and his freedom. Therefore, they strictly separate a ‘freedom from’, which they regard as a moral imperative of social development, from the ‘freedom for’ — the normativisation of how, why, and for what purpose this freedom should be used. The latter remains at the discretion of the historical subject — in other words, the individual.

The historical subject of the second political theory is class. The class structure of society and the conflict between the exploiter and the exploited classes are the core of the Communists’ dramatic vision of history. History is class struggle. Politics is its expression. The proletariat is a dialectic historical subject, which is called to set itself free from the domination of the bourgeoisie and to build a society on new foundations. A single individual is conceived here as a part of a class-based whole, and acquires social existence only in the process
of raising class consciousness.
And, finally, the subject of the third political theory is either the State (as in Italian Fascism) or race (as in German National Socialism). In fascism, everything is based upon a Right-wing version of Hegelianism, since Hegel himself considered the Prussian state to be the peak of historical development in which the subjective spirit was perfected. Giovanni Gentile,[60] a proponent of Hegelianism, applied this concept to Fascist Italy.[61] In German National Socialism, the historical subject is the ‘Aryan race’,[62] which, according to racists, ‘carries out the eternal struggle against the subhuman races’. The appalling consequences of this ideology are too well known to dwell upon them.
However, it was this original definition of a historical subject that was at the heart of the Nazis’ criminal practices.

Dugin identifies the 'three political movements of post-modernity as 'fascism'. Idealizing State or Race, Communism idealizing class, and Liberalism, idealizing the individual.
I can only see in Liberalism its roots in Communism - both rejecting all natural identifiers and idealizing a ideal individual who is either identified as producer for the State or as loyal adherent to State power - inter-subjectivity is the collective of subjects existing in their won private reality, or finding a new identity in relation to the State which represents their collective.
Liberalism strips the individual of all identifiers so as to make it vulnerable to social conditioning and what is then manufactured as artificial identifiers - fashion trends used to inspire the individual to 'construct' its own 'identity', and in this way controlling his creation.
Ironically liberal individualism - American individualism - produces a collectivism.
for instance it creates collectives oriented by fashion, or musical styles, or ideologies and lifestyles, i.e., memetic identities.
"Individuals" become entirely dependent on communal sources of identity, delivered by collectively approved and appreciated 'experts', i.e., famous or rich or popular idols/icons who become stand-in for individual beliefs and judgements.
Each icon/idol evaluated by how popular they are, or how much money they can accumulate. As one moron on ILP said it 'their pay grade'.
So, if you are of a 'lower pay grade' that is you cannot sell, then you must follow those who can and do sell.
Nietzsche 'sells' though when he was alive he did not. Like James Dean his market value increased after his premature demise....like Marilyn Monroe and others.
What 'sells' is what is 'true'....so if these morons had been born in the middle Ages what 'sold then' was Christianity....and the 'experts' and/or 'authorities' that best market it would be their icons/idols.

it's funny that these same types who are entirely within the 'herd psychology framework go out of their way to display their 'uniqueness' within the uniformity they idealize. Underground music - cRap - or art - fArt - or anything quirky and not mainstream becomes an emblem of their 'distinctiveness within the hive-mind.
In prison the prisoners put on symbols of their individuality, so as to stand out in a environment of uniforms, walls, and regimented lifestyles. Little emblems that will not overly challenge the authorities but will display the individual's lost sense of self.




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Dugin hasn't fleshed-out his 'Fourth political theory' but offers an outline which refers to the Fascism - the ethno-state based no a metaphysical substructure adopted from Heidegger's Being and Time.

Dugin, Alexandre wrote:
The third hypothesis is about forcing the phenomenological method and rushing several steps ahead: we may propose to consider Heidegger’s Dasein[74] as the subject of the Fourth Political Theory. Dasein is described in Heidegger’s philosophy at length through its existential structure, which makes it possible to build a complex, holistic model based on it, the development of which will lead to, for instance, a new understanding of politics. Many researchers have lost sight of the fact that Heidegger, especially, in his middle period between 1936 and 1945, developed a complete history of philosophy centred around Dasein, which, it has become apparent in retrospect, can form the basis of a full-fledged and well-developed political philosophy.
Thus, accepting the Dasein hypothesis immediately gives us a broad map in order to navigate the construction of history necessary for political theory. If the subject is Dasein, then the Fourth Political Theory would constitute a fundamental ontological structure that is developed on the basis of existential anthropology. We can map out the direction to describe this type of an approach:
• Dasein and the state;
• Dasein and social stratification;
• Dasein and power (the will to power);
• Being and politics;
• The horizons of political temporality;
• Existential spatiality and the phenomenology of boundaries;
• The Prince and nothing;
• Parliament, the choice, and ‘Being-towards-death’;
• Citizenship and the role of the guardians of Being;
• Referendum and intentionality;
• The authentic and the inauthentic in jurisprudence;
• Existential philosophy of jurisprudence;
• Revolution and the flight of the gods;
• Urbanisation and the house of Being.
Naturally, this is merely a cursory outline of the areas of interest for the new political science.

Dasein will be the metaphysics of the Fourth political system.
A being there, that denies its racist and stateists predecessors, adopting pieces from the other three political theories and adjusting them to its own needs.

Dugin, Alexandre wrote:
The entire hermeneutic circle of the Fourth Political Theory should be included in the ‘Fourth Nomos of the Earth’.[80] This inclusion will specify its content in even more detail and, in particular, will reveal the colossal epistemological potential of geopolitics. The latter, in addition to its purely
practical and applied objectives, can be viewed as a broad invitation to think spatially in a postmodern scenario, when historical thinking, which dominated the modern era, is becoming irrelevant. On numerous occasions, I have written about the philosophical and the sociological potential of geopolitics in my works.[81] Spatiality is one of the most important existential components of Dasein, so the appeal to the Fourth Nomos of the Earth can be tied to the third subject hypothesis of the Fourth Political Theory. Now we can approach the problem of creating the Fourth Political Theory from another direction and examine the contenders for inclusion in this theory from the three classical models.
However, before determining which aspects of the three old ideologies can be borrowed from them, having neutralised them and taken them out of context, ripping them out of their own ‘hermeneutic circle’, it is important to briefly mention which aspects must be firmly discarded.

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We note a positive attitude toward the ethnos,[83] an ethnocentrism directed toward that type of existence which is formed within the structure of the ethnos itself, and which remains intact throughout a variety of stages, including the highly differentiated types of societies which a people may develop in the course of their history. This topic has found deep resonance in certain philosophical directions of the Conservative Revolution[84] (for instance, Carl Schmitt and his theory of ‘the rights of peoples’, in Adam Müller,[85] Arthur Moeller van den Bruck, and so on) or the German school of ethnic sociology (Wilhelm Mühlmann,[86] Richard Thurnwald,[87] and others). Ethnos is the greatest value of the Fourth Political Theory as a cultural phenomenon; as a community of language, religious belief, daily life, and the sharing of resources and goals; as an organic entity written into an ‘accommodating landscape’ (Lev Gumilev);[88] as a refined system for constructing models for married life; as an always-unique means of establishing a relationship with the outside world; as the matrix of the ‘lifeworld’ (Edmund Husserl); and as the source of all the ‘language-games’
(Ludwig Wittgenstein).[89] Of course, ethnicity was not the focal point either in National Socialism, or in Fascism. Yet, liberalism as an ideology, calling for the liberation from all forms of collective identity in general, is entirely incompatible with the ethnos and ethnocentrism, and is an expression of a systemic theoretical and technological ethnocide.
Marxist ideology did not pay much attention to the ethnos either, believing that the ethnos is overcome in a class-based society, and that no trace of it remains in a bourgeois and, even more so, a proletarian society. Based on the latter, the principle of ‘proletarian internationalism’ becomes absolute. The only place where the ethnos received any kind of attention is in dissident, Third Way currents which were rather marginal in relation to the political mainstream, even though Nazi orthodoxy blocked the organic development of the ethnosociological subject area with its racist dogma.

The ehtno-state absorbs Fascists State and Nazi Race into a new form that denies both.
Broadly speaking he adopts Yockey's horizontal race identity, i.e., one founded on memes, and rejects Darwinian horizontal racial identities - converting race to a ideological framework represented by rituals and shared lifestyles and morals and culture.
A sort of ancient-Greek city-state where your place of birth and your heritage was of minimal importance if you abided by the traditions and ways of thinking and living the city identified as its own.
Loosely speaking its Timocracy, i.e., if you produce for the city and you serve the city, then you gain the privilege of being a citizen of the city.

This escapes the traps of Nazi racism and places it on the individual's willingness and performance, which is undoubtedly a product of his heritage and race.
Discrimination is a result of the individuals abilities - his/her performance - and not of his/her birth. A clever way of ensuring that an ethno-state will gradually become racially homogeneous while never actually enforcing any discriminating policies.

Dugin, Alexandre wrote:
Whatever the case may be, the ethnos and ethnocentrism (Wilhelm Mühlmann) have every reason to be considered as candidates for the becoming the subject of the Fourth Political Theory. At the same time, we must again and again pay attention to the fact that we view the ethnos in the plural, without trying to establish any kind of a hierarchical system: ethnicities are different, but each of them is, in itself, universal; ethnicities live and develop, but this life and this development do not fit into one specific paradigm; they are open and always distinct; ethnicities mix and separate, but neither one nor the other is good or evil
per se — ethnicities themselves generate the criteria by which others are judged, each time in a different way. We can draw many conclusions based on this point.
In particular, we can relativise the very notion of ‘politics’, which comes from the normative values of the city, the polis,[90] and, consequently, of the urban
model of self-organisation within the community (or the society). As a general paradigm, we can review what Richard Thurnwald called Dorfstaat — a ‘village-state’.[91] The village-state is an alternative view of politics from the perspective of the ethnos naturally living in balance with its environment. This view is not reflective of the city (projecting its structure onto the rest of the country), but is that of the village or the province. It comes from the standpoint of those regions that have been peripheral in classical politics, but which are the centre of the Fourth Political Theory. However, this is only one example of all the possibilities that open up if we accept the ethnos as the historical subject.

A multi-polar world will gradually take shape, along the lines of Huntington's model, but not quite as Anglo-Saxon in orientation.
Huntington includes Europe into the American sphere when it is currently not - especially after the second world war Europe is being absorbed into the American model - Puritan-Jewish) but is historically and spiritually distinct from it.
The American model based on an Anglo-Saxon defeat, at the hands of the Normans, and of Jewish ostracising, across the ages, producing a victim-psychology of resentment, and a desire to level all cultures and tribes down so as to produce 'safe-spaces' - eliminating the shame of historical precedent - i.e., Americanism is Globalization.

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Haven't watched the entire vid, but from the title alone the subject is clear.

I've commented on how Semites are not necessarily Jews - because Arabs are a Semitic tribe that is not Jewish; a Semite can be atheist, a Marxist - most probably - or even a Christian.
The variant of Nihilism differs but the core remains unchanged.
'Semite' is a genetic designation - referring to the afro-Asiatic racial/linguistic branch of humanity. A few tribes adopted and adapted Zoroastrian nihilistic concepts, such as monotheism (absolutism), into their Semitic survival strategy, giving birth to the meme we call Judaism.
This eventually produced a paradox. A memetic identity based on victim-hood and nihilistic principles, gradually gains power - through its seductive appeal to all the downtrodden across tribal lines - which then claims power founded on powerlessness.
Obscurantism manages to conceal this paradox, as it always does - even in Christian doctrine the semiotic/conceptual paradoxes emerging, representing mind/body dissonance, are concealed via linguistic obscurantism - occultism, mystification, superstition.

Having gone through the historical process of reinventing themselves, the Jews now are trying to return to their original, tribal identity - this is what Zionism is. But they face the same dissonance, the same lingering paradoxes, because they cannot entirely abandon Judaism...how can they remain Jews and become Semites once more.
We clearly see this with secular, atheist, Semites who still identify as Jews, especially when they inherit this lineage through their mothers.

Jesus is an example of a paradox siding with Roman ideals, agaisnt his own kind - the reason they chose to crucify him rather than Barabbas, after Pontius Pilate 'washed his hands' of the entire affair. essentially not caring which one was put to death, but wanting to cause turmoil among peoples that could never assimilate inot Roman culture.  
They condemned to 'death' the Roman part of Jesus, who antagonized their faith, just as Socrates antagonized Athenian principles by spreading ideas contrary to its well-being.
The same conundrum is present in Catholicism - an offshoot - where  a claim upon Rome is made by those who profess to worship antithetical to Roman principles, dogmas; in Greece the same occurs in relation to how modern-Greeks are now trying to maintnian their ancient 'greatness' while believing in an alien, an antithesis to this 'greatness' spirituality.
As I've repeatedly said, Nihilism inevitably produces cognitive dissonance - paradoxes - founded no a literal acceptance of semiotics coming in conflict with experienced reality - noumenon contradicting phenomenon.
This dissonance is concealed within obscurantism - mystification - corrupting language, inverting concepts etc.
For the modern-Greeks the geography and their language maintains an unbroken connection to a past their minds cannot entirely process. they remain pagans, in spirit, converting their polytheism into quasi-paganism, replacing them with saints. Their polytheism is still present, integrating it into a paradoxical monotheism.

We should keep in mind that the ancient Greeks entrained every spiritual and philosophical idea, because their identity was rooted in genetics which could not be threatened by anything alien. So, we find in the Greeks every imaginable philosophical position, even monotheism.
the convergence occurs by maintaining an esoteric paganism while  practising an exoteric monotheism - mind/body are in conflict.
At times the sequence is inverted - the esoteric is monotheistic - nihilistic - and they practice pagan attitudes.

Zionism is also a similar process of mind/body dissonance. The victim, having gained power over his master - seducing victims across tribal lines (victims fo the world unite!!!) wishes to become openly a master, which conflicts with the very seductive strategy that gained him power.
The product is hypocrisy.  
Never buy what you sell to the goyim...Say one thing, think a second, and do a third.
The method evades triangulation - shifting from no to another, as the circumstances necessitate. It cannot be pinpointed because it uses obscurantism to mask itself, among peoples who have lost their understanding of language and what it is.
While selling Liberalism to others - particularly to their true nemsis, the European male, i.e., open borders, rejection natural identifiers and heritage, American individualism - they practice tribalism and exclusivity.

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To some degree all traditional memes that come in contact with Nihilistic ones, are warped by the encounter - attempting to integrate what is contradictory into a cohesive memetic model.

We can trace the conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims to this process.
Zoroastrianism morphed among the Aryan Persians, into Shia Islam, whereas a different shape was produced when the exact same nihilistic dogma came in contact with other Traditional memes.

We see the same phenomenon among Christians and how Judaism affected Eastern European tribes, compared to how it affected western European tribes.

if we understand what Nihilism is, we can understand how it shapes itself in accordance to the host it infects, each time evolving into a new form.
This is how it evolves, because it cannot contact the real world directly, but only through a host - proxy.

This is why I said that the Nihilistic meme is only limited by the imagination of the mind. It is free from all pragmatic, natural limitations. It is a memetic virus - multiplying and progressing semiotically.
Each type of host adds a new variant to the list.

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The high intellectual average of Askenazi Jews is not due to some genetic advantage but a product of two seminal factors.

1-Holocaust, as an event that cleansed their gene-pool, same way the Ice Age and the Black plagued, cleansed the European tribes, producing the Renaissance.

2- Memetic Eugenics - the tradition of marrying the son of the wealthiest member of a tribe with the daughter of the Cohen - the highest ranked priest, the highest educated member of the tribe - is a form of social eugenics- or social engineering.

The Jews never produced any art of great value of their won. They appropriate art and adapt it to their needs.
Askenazi Jews are the "chosen" feeding off Germanic cultures, producing Yiddish as their linguistic idiom.
They've done the same thing across the ages.....with every culture one of the tribes interacted with, starting from the ancient-Egyptians, from whom they appropriated their attitude towards mortality.
Abraham, according to narratives, attempted to marry his own wife with the Pharaoh, reflecting the strategy of integrating within a host; a form of self-emasculating, cuckoldry.
This is also reflected in the story about his one and only begotten son.

The message is subtle....but clear.
The meme usurps the genes.
Meme = God.
Genes are sacrificed on its behalf - or serve it as loyal slaves.

Old & New Testaments are full of subtle allegorical narratives that imply an anti-life, anti-family, anti-male message.
The crucifix alone is a story of flesh surrendering to ideal; being "reborn" through it as pure noumenon.
A family - wife and children - do not actually belong to the male....but to the ideal = God. He is merely the ideals proxy - his servant and representative in the corporeal realm - we call it World or reality.
In Islam, males are expected to sacrifice themselves in its "name".

The Idea/Ideal exists in mind - called Divine.
More abstract ideas/ideals indicate sanctity, divinity, purity.
What is of the body is "dirty", evil, mundane....what is to be "overcome".
All is synthesized in the mind - because it is unhindered by natural order - the realm of the pagan gods.
The mind can integrate ideas that cannot be integrated in reality - physically. in the mind nonsense can be baptised - cleansed of its corporeality, and tangibility - and be renamed "sense".
Obscurity, vagueness, is how this synthesis maintains itself in a artificial unity.
Emotions compensates for any conflicts.
We call this compartmentalization - newspeak. It allows selective application of standards and "logic". A double-standard.

"Human race," for example, is sanctified by stripping it of its "dirty" corporeality; made into an ideology that has nothing to do with its original sexual, procreative, significance; at the same time, race, as a sub-grouping of homo sapient, is reduced to pigmentation, entirely corporeal and selectively so - no spiritual component, at all - ergo, what is white-skinned is of the same 'race", which can then be dismissed as 'superficial", or claimed as one's won identity: for he who has white skin is automatically of the same race.


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Using the same line of reasoning, we can trace back Indo-Eurorean physical and mental advantages to two known seminal events of near-extinction.
One was a natural occurrence - freezing of the planet (Ice Age), resulting in the challenging environmental shifts that nearly eliminated European peoples.
The second was a by-product of European dominance, producing excess populations, living in increasingly urban environment, where diseases can breed and spread - the Black Plague.
H.L. Mencken claims that the Black Plague's elimination of genetic garbage produced the Renaissance - rebirth of Indo-European ideas/ideals (memes)....through corrupted by Abrahamism.

We can only hope that this coming Dark Age, which has begun the process of extermination of European bloodlines, will produce a new rebirth.....if it does not finalize in complete extermination.
I suspect a rebirth will be burdened with additional corruptive effects as those produced by European contact with Abraham's tribes.
A new test of the same genes.

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Don't know what "clearing out" Spencer has in mind, or when it will begin.
What I know is that his ambition is admirable, and yet a bit naive....like Doolittle's Proprietism.
At best both can only hope for cleaning up, after the disease has completed its natural cycles and has declined to a point where such interventions can begin.

Standing before a tsunami, carrying billions of tons of debris (garbage) may be seen as bravery, or foolishness.
Seeking the "high ground" and learning how to "swim in shit" would be a more productive course of action.
Tsunamis are destructive but also cleansing....they wash away the accumulated garbage of decades.
In time they subside, leaving behind an open field, ready for a new beginning.
We must preserve as much as possible from its menacing force so that future generations do not start from scratch, or, like in the decades following the Dark Age, our descendants do not have to seek their inheritance in alien tribes, i.e., Muslim Afro-Asiatics.

A pessimistic prospect, no doubt, but very pragmatic.

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In a way both Doolittle and Spencer do provide a service.
Spencer, in particular....popularizes some basic ideas that are not even on the cognitive radar of the average mind.

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Standing before a tsunami, carrying billions of tons of debris (garbage) may be seen as bravery, or foolishness.
Its easy to not take it so personal when one grows up with some modicum of tradition left over from the remnants of Christianity... although i could see the shame in ones success somewhat depending on it.

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Seeking the "high ground" and learning how to "swim in shit" would be a more productive course of action.
Productive at the cost of infection and conditioning a "flight" psychology both in one's self and potentially one's children.

Focusing on self improvement or productivity does not satiate the desire to fight (at least for me it doesn't), something must be destroyed/sacrificed for it to be meaningful.

Foolish yes, but one cannot remain in the shadows too long within ones lifetime, regardless of the age.




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