Calling the way women relate sexually/romantically to men "love" in the same way we say men "love" women will inevitably result in confusion and men having unrealistically high expectations of their women...
Depends on which premises are taken for granted but I see how this can happen. But on the other hand I don't think it's accurate to portray women as lacking in "love" (irrationality). If they love something they will defend it and rationalise it against all odds.
How did feminists convert women away from their own family? Not by rational arguments, they came later to rationalise what had happened. By making their men unlovable to them.
Love is never selfless. That modern women are taught, through liberal mythologies to believe that it is, is how we get this behavioral ambivalence in how modern women sexually select.
A woman who is of higher intelligence, may be drawn to a man who exudes superior intellectual qualities and creative life, but only for a short time until their biological procreative drives prompt them to place aside that which ultimately has nothing to do with inherent mating rituals, leading to one of the main necessities for female sexual and psychological welfare, which is offspring, resources or security. They require their physiological needs to be fulfilled regardless of how taken they are with intellectualism. Inevitably these needs manifest themselves, subtly, but noticeably.
They will ultimately come to conclusions that something is “missing”, or that they need time to “find themselves”, translation: they desire a man who can provide more than something abstract. Conversely, their attraction to men of high intellect is only their attraction to the ideal of this man; the heroic element of him, connected to a power of mind that metaphorically transposes into a form of physical strength. But it falls short in the end to satisfy them because it lacks immediate evolutionary purposes they require to be fulfilled in the long run. A man with a strong mind provides the “safety” imperative for females through good judgement and guidance that they need, but it is not enough for them and their demanding natures. Especially if you are like me, and you get very tired holding their hand all the time in how to think effectively, then they become put off even sooner.
A females love is indeed fickle, as Satyr says. It must be, precisely because a males genius is simply not adequately conducive to the genetic survival of the life of the woman herself. A woman’s love is based on higher standards of self-preservation and survival which is why women are so unforgiving in the game of sex. A man loves only when it serves a higher function for the advancement of principles based on aggregate energies, both sexual and intellectual.
Impulso Oscuro
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It must be, precisely because a males genius is simply not adequately conducive to the genetic survival of the life of the woman herself.
...in the modern environment.
Genius, if allowed, can be quite like what they call in the military, a force multiplier.
It is far more dangerous than muscle or sociability will ever be. The repression of its expression is why females today do not select for it.
Unbalanced modern men (all muscle, all brains) are not adequately conducive to the survival of the women in nature, but in artifice, these human dildos and cogs become preferred under the watchful eye of ONE.
I just wonder how they can be tricked by the environment so easily, you would think that thousands of years of evolution would have given them a taste for the balanced man....or perhaps they still have it... which would explain why divorce among modern men has risen.
_________________ Once more, with knowing.
The meek shall inherit the Earth, but the Noble shall take it.
It must be, precisely because a males genius is simply not adequately conducive to the genetic survival of the life of the woman herself.
...in the modern environment.
Genius, if allowed, can be quite like what they call in the military, a force multiplier.
It is far more dangerous than muscle or sociability will ever be. The repression of its expression is why females today do not select for it.
Its repression is mostly genetic and partly mimetic in modernity. But, sociobiologically, its purpose does not compliment sexual selection, which is why it is rare and goes by the wayside when progeny is concerned for women. The point being that a female is drawn to traditional aspects of immediate genetic fitness that are basic in function, not timeless in spirit. The organic genus of a civilization is what females are drawn to.
Impulso Oscuro
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Its repression is mostly genetic and partly mimetic in modernity. But, sociobiologically, its purpose does not compliment sexual selection, which is why it is rare and goes by the wayside when progeny is concerned for women. The point being that a female is drawn to traditional aspects of immediate genetic fitness that are basic in function, not timeless in spirit. The organic genus of a civilization is what females are drawn to.
It was not simply "immediate genetic fitness" that ensured the survival through the harsh cold of the ice age.
Of course, if you mean a hot, sheltered, and resource-rich environment, then yes, immediate genetic fitness is the default and genius becomes of little concern.
But we are not creatures of the jungle, not anymore.
Our females still feel the scar the event left on their psyche, which is why most of them remain unfulfilled despite having someone with immediate genetic fitness.
_________________ Once more, with knowing.
The meek shall inherit the Earth, but the Noble shall take it.
Primitiveness in relation to success to fitness is not meant to be taken merely prehistorically. imprinted urges towards long term expectations of biological survivalism is inherent in their drive to select. Intelligence is fitness but in different ways for different autonomous purposes that find their way into group selection.
Civility is the domestication of these urges, but does not negate their significance for females. It manifests culturally and individualistically. The same needs, taking on different adaptations, that's all.
Intelligence is mental fitness to ensure future stability for cultural life. But brood, offspring, children are the evolutionary need to be fulfilled in them. The conduits of life spring forth from natural sources of strength that are practical. Genius is not practical, it is an anomaly that determines degrees of unique success that caters less towards a collective whole and more towards a continuity of thought processes. The needs of females are collective and pragmatic.
Cult_Leader
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Has anyone else than me found reason to believe that the PUA and anti-PUA communities were created by the same group of people? (Unfortunately, PUAhate is no longer operational, so I have no direct evidence for this.)
perpetualburn
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To Uroborically reduce gods into scientific propositions, or science into religious mysticisms, both end up in self-annihilating absurdity.
How much of a 'discriminate' identity is it, to explain away gods as thunder and lightning and sun,,, when the next tribe does the same with different labels...
To do so may say a lot about our Beliefs, but it says nothing about OUR beliefs.
Abs. scientific reduction and abs. religious reduction are nihilistic.
The Daimon has many heads. Alertness is the state of intense calm that is sur-charged on the edge, without convenient collapses.
We do not grow without such tensions.
Do you think science and myth can ever sync up, or does myth always outpace science?
_________________ And here we always meet, at the station of our heart / Looking at each other as if we were in a dream /Seeing for the first time different eyes so supreme / That bright flames burst into vision, keeping us apart.
Considering thunder and lightening in modern scientific terms seems less useful as explanation than as a way to manipulate the phenomenon. It seems a person looking for an explanation to such things would find much use in mythology, more so to the extent he has genetic, and even cultural, ties to the tribe that created the mythology.
perpetualburn wrote:
Do you think science and myth can ever sync up, or does myth always outpace science?
Are you asking that in terms of science and myth syncing up through a tribal system of belief or an individual's own endeavors?
1. What is the appearance of the thing, its body-shape, its face, what does it indicate? 2. What are the thoughts of the thing, what does it speak, how, and why? 3. What are the actions of the thing?
The third factor, actions, is most critical since actions *cannot* lie. Actions reveal all, especially the inner-thought of the thing.
Slaughtz
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Abrahamic God as 'punisher' when things go wrong for a person hijacks all values and cultures AND personal responsibility of others (except self in relation to God). No longer is it the values of a culture that creates the conditions for bad things happening to the believer, but God punishing them. Every believer is committed totally to the non-combatance of cultures and values - of Gods.
If an individual mind is so easily taken by lies and deceptions, cannot perceive intricacy nor sophistication, then does it truly deserve the title of Intelligent or Evolved?
The giving of excess is done so that one does not have unnecessary attention brought onto themselves. One who owns a lot, is responsible for a lot. The more vast the ownership, the more vast they must spread their attention.
The Communist says that all the world and its potential is theirs (or partly so), and so cannot accept the idea of independence. They lay claim not only to the world, but the objects which sustain humans - and so humans as well. Communists are owed even the bodies of people, for they are means to production. If not, they are religious in their separation of humans from nature.
Slaughtz
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Similar to ants infected by the 'zombie fungus' the organism becomes erratic, confused, it behaves in ways contrary to its nature, to its self-interests
Taking the path of most resistance, the "weaker" path, is a way to strategically out maneuver an opponent who behaves predictably in the path of their least resistance. Those who say taking a weaker path means you are weak, are destroying this capability through inducing an autism in their target. Deception becomes a sign of weakness - and especially those deceptions which require more effort (going against the path of least resistance...) It is much more efficient to convince your enemy that a path which is easy for you, is actually difficult. Deceivers may occupy this space where they acquire a monopoly on temporal thinking because they monopolize deception itself.
Pedantism/literalism is a sign of either a lack of empathy, or a charitable antipathy. However, "charity" is not without its winners and losers.
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Anfang
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For a carnivore it's a path of lesser resistance to eat meat rather than grass. At the same time it's more difficult to obtain meat rather than grass.
Living in homogeneous communities, that's easier than living among diversity. At the same time it's more difficult to establish and maintain homogeneous communities than dieversity.
The reasoning is then - Oh don't be weak, live among diversity, that's more difficult and what's difficult is good because it makes you stronger.
Holding a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger is usually very difficult, hence why it's virtuous to do it, can I get an Amen?
Slaughtz
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Christians protect and seek to save the live of others just so that the one saved can believe and then help spread a message which asserts their lives will be insignificant; except to the degree they spread the message or live up to the principles therein.
Slaughtz
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Academia will always be that distorter of reason and the oppression of vitality. Most who learn do not know how to learn, and most who have learned do not understand what they have learned. Those who know that education is a constraint on oneself, but a necessary one that must therefore be cruelly accepted; those are the ones that should be given shelter, if only as a gesture of appropriateness.
Morality is the code of which people receive favor from the ennobled. Appeals to 'society' may be a simplification, like the absent/absolute dichotomy, of perhaps a feminine (or beta) nature.
The noble always threatens violence to any violent challenger, but also must appeal socially to the group they oversee so that they do not lose stature; especially with females.
The second best of any group is a challenger to the first in times of peace and a right-hand man in times of war with an outside tribe.
Slaughtz
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The marker for a healthy civilization is the orderliness of its streets. Likewise, the indicator of a well civilized person is the orderliness of their home.
An empty (clean) avenue within a populated nation is more intimidating than an empty aveneue in an abandoned city. Cleanliness and health intimidates.
Like an ape which fears the unknown and seeks to make itself known everywhere around the new "territory", so will foreigners and enemies be intimidated by the health indicated by the empty city street. The degree to which a person seeks to disrupt the silence is an indication of their dissatisfaction and possible insecurity about the direction of where they reside (applies to online areas, as well). If a person immediately tries to seize control of a nations media, they are demonstrating a desperate move to populate the environment with their own markings.
It is a natural and predictable behavior.
Slaughtz
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Convincing one or another to think quantitatively instead of qualitatively is for the purposes of making something disappear. When done alongside moral prescriptions, typically they want to make themselves disappear (like 'love') so they can influence the conversation with their biases unseen. With natural sciences it can be a way to eliminate noise. The issue is when someone is trying to eliminate noise, make sure it is not the noise which keeps a firm grasp on the adversarial nature of organic life.
Slaughtz
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There are two sorts of egoists: those hedonists which want all justified before them and those which believe they're justified before all.
One says all is ego and selfishness... another says the same, only to expose those whom protest too much when it is said of them or of any group which they belong.
For the target of the latter, there are two responses: those who say it is true and ask "so what?" versus those who are desperate to protect their name or group in response. An ally has no concern stating it's in their interests to help an ally. One who is a traitor or enemy, will protect their name(s)/group(s) against it.
Likewise, the egoist who states they are justified before all, is defending themselves to their in-group. They take the cost. The former which says all are justified before them, then can put their responsibility onto the group. A cost reduction.
The traitor that defends their name from an egoist accusation, is a net drain on the structure.
The one who is needed, doesn't fear serving themselves. They are already justified before everyone.
Slaughtz
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Every "evil" or principle which a man or society will not compromise on, is an opportunity for an enemy to capitalize on. "Anti-racism" is one such example of bottom feeders taking advantage of a principle which was made to raise human behavior above racial limits, but instead became an obstacle for the very sentiment it was supposed to support.
Anfang
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Every "evil" or principle which a man or society will not compromise on, is an opportunity for an enemy to capitalize on. "Anti-racism" is one such example of bottom feeders taking advantage of a principle which was made to raise human behavior above racial limits, but instead became an obstacle for the very sentiment it was supposed to support.
It's the 1 or 0 thinking again.
Man is either in charge of creating the 'climate change' himself or there is no involvement of man in changing the climate.
All negroes are 'inferior' in every way or all people are the same.
As globalism continues, evolves, and grows exponentially powerful, the result is in a universal lowering of all standards: culturally, ethically, morally, socially, sexually, etc. All bars are *lowered* in order to "fit in with everybody and everything". This results in stagnation, and eventually, Devolution, walking backward slowly.
Cultural leaders will become rarer and rarer. Philosophy becomes rarer as well. Those who aspire and inspire for greatness, to push the bar higher, become rarer. Because it takes exponentially more effort, talent, skill, and intellect, in order to do so. Because individuality, of one person, becomes opposed to 7,000,000,000 other living humans.
And in the distant future, that will be one opposed to ten billion humans, or an even higher population, perhaps.
Anfang
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Let's imagine I accuse my neighbour of poisoning my well. Then that's not something which just entered from the hate/demon dimension through a portal appearing out of thin air. Either my neighbour is a bad dude or I'm projecting my cunning and so forth on him or a mix of such things.
Phobia this and that, hating those people, feelings of supremacy, inferiority, accusations of all sorts what have you, they are not just arbitrary and detached.
If there is so much talk about hate, continuously, then hate is probably not just an empty accusation to just feel superior about your own side (within slave morality), though that too, but it's a present and even powerful motivational force today.
Intuitively I don't even consider hate to be that much of a motivational force in others. But over the years, by now, I suspect that that's more due to my own not accurately projecting onto others.
