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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm

The stimulation of fear caused the first organisms to develop senses. Senses evolved to detect dangers, first and foremost.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:18 pm

"How dare you wake me from my dreams?!" shrieks the liberal to the modern age.

"How dare you cross into my reality?!" shrieks the modern to another modern.

"You infringe upon my rights!" they all shriek in unison.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:10 am

After about over a decade of pursuing philosophy, introspection, inquiry, arguments, competitions, struggle, confrontation, and challenge, if asked about what Philosophy means to me then I would answer, it is the love of learning of life and existence, the courage to confront reality, and from that confrontation, all the wisdom and memories gained from it.

Genes are the passage of such 'memories' from generation to generation. The better a philosophy is, the deeper it is rooted into the ancient past, as far back as time will allow.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:50 am

If you're incapable of communicating to me an idea [that I'm incapable of autistically extreme-manning into absolutes], then you are obviously as bigoted as I think you are or accuse you as, because it's up to me and my interpretation at that point and I'm comfortable saying you're just: jealous, weak, or hateful. I'm also comfortable appeasing my own conscience about this choice and then saying that what is really an appeasement of my own fear through a choice which promotes my hedonistic self-interest (through passing off the obligation of confrontation to those in the future instead of putting it upon my own shoulders now), is truly a result of thoughtful consideration and reflection of a superior mind to your own (my own, because I'm winning through escaping).

And to question this ability leaves nothing, because fear is the mind killer and without this I am terrified to the core.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:57 pm

If we cannot even agree on something so basic as the fact that difference in appearance means something, and isn't some insignificant detail we can pretend not to notice, or too insignificant to matter, then there's no possibility of moving forward to a consensus.
Something as basic as that and we hear bullshyte excuses and reasons to sweep it under the carpet.
Something a simple animal brain can perceive and react to, and we are trying to train ourselves to believe that it means nothing.

Forget about what ought to be done about it, if anything, or what produced the difference in appearance....no, we can't even begin because the debate gets stuck on if it matters enough to think about it.

We evolved the ability to perceive differences to survive, to distinguish something different, or that something is going on here, and we humans are now in a phase of our history where we are attempting to convince ourselves that what we see is irrelevant....but only sometimes.
It's the sometimes that gets it all fucked-up.

In every other time, except this one, appearances matter, differences signify something.....but this one time it is meaningless.
And what is this one time?
When it has to do with humans.

How convenient.
Then they go into why humans are exempt to what applies to every, fuckin' other organism, or thing that exists...and it's usually self-contradicting, or totally nonsensical.
A simpleton, for example, uses the simplest argument to use complexity as a reason to disqualify humans from natural selection.
He contradicts his very premises with his performance.

Or the argument that environment affects the body, but, for no reason, it leaves the mind unaffected, or the species evolved specialized organs to make heterosexual reproduction possible, but this evolved specialization, somehow, for no reason at all,, for reasons contrary to the reasons the body developed specialized organs, the mind was left unaffected.
Specialization totally bypassed the brain....for no reason at all.

And if anyone dares to insinuate that it could not have, then the usual attacks, and the usual alternative - it's all a social construct.
So, evolution produced male/female specialized roles, but masculinity/femininity are learned.
That makes sense, right?




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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Life and Existence are amazing.

Yet it seems as though the vast majority of people don't really care or take notice of things, or if so, only ponder and contemplate them superficially. It is one thing to be in awe at existence, but I suppose, completely different to engage in it directly, trying to pry open the 'secrets' of it all. And what are those secrets and myths? What is truly unknown about existence?

The (Human) world is easy. People are focused on trivial and mundane matters, "getting ahead", putting food on a plate, navigating life and social relationships. The vast majority of people want a secure job with a secure pay, and to waste time idly with entertainment, games and television. That's enough for most people. But for a Philosopher, that will never be enough. For Philosophy, a deeper connection with existence is required. I should say a "re-connection".

Intelligence and consciousness is the top of evolved hierarchies, the top of the pyramid, most "Artificial" in such that mind produces artifices. The Mind is the Artificer, a source of creation, or manipulation of ideas and forms, to change the world as a human sees fit. Interaction means to influence existence, and also be influenced by existence, give-and-take. Thus, for Philosophy, with minds heightened further above, require stronger bases and reinforcement. The base of the pyramid must grow, to achieve higher heights. So I believe that's what humanity is about, providing such a platform, for those at the top to use, to that end.

Just ask a common person, any Modern. What knowledge and wisdom do they have, if any? Have they spent much time thinking in life, of life? Any deep contemplation? Any interesting insights? Any observations to gasp at? Any revelations? The answer is obvious, No. They do not.

And so, as common and modern people leave Philosophy unfulfilled, Philosophy must then leave the (Human) world, Plato's Cave, and venture "out" into the "real" world, to engage with existence directly. This is the re-connection of the mind with body, never truly or completely separated anyway.

The reconnection between Artificer and Nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:03 am

Parasites only make us stronger/can serve to make us stronger.

True, after you have identified the parasite and fought it off, removed it, you have gained strength +1 in the process of gaining the ability to beat the parasite.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:54 pm



Can you appreciate and participate in this without being engulfed by it - without surrendering to its emotional appeal?
If you can, then you are above nihilism.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:16 pm

One of the monumental shifts in western tradition and conservative values, was feminism and removing women from cooking and kitchens, with the idea that men and women, husbands and wives, must do "equal" house work, or that women would stop cooking altogether. Stop being the home-keepers. This has destroyed western society, culture, tradition, and family more than anything else. High divorce rates are also correlated.

One of the most respectable, valuable, and honorable positions of the female was in preparing, cooking, and feeding *her own* family, and from excess, neighbors and the rest of her community. "The path to a man's heart is through his stomach" however feminists who "don't need men", don't feed men. And because western females have turned away from the role, as home-keepers, as cooks, as providers, the rest of society slowly decayed as well.

Personally, I find women who are homely and cook for others, very appealing and attractive. Although much rarer today than ever before, it seems.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:40 pm

You have to catch the lies early before people tell them to each other, before people reveal to each other their commitment to the lie.
What's a big obstacle to dispelling a lie is the ego investment that people made by tying themselves to it through advocating the lie to their friends and acquaintances.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:31 pm

Thought on Beauty…

Resistance to change, power,…
But really, what is behind those words?

Beauty is not just any kind of order, or pattern.
Some geometrical shapes, arranged in a discerned pattern does not make something automatically particularly beautiful.
For example, a brutalist building in modern architecture has a particular order to itself but it’s also ugly.

If I think of beauty in terms of patterns and order then it is a kind of self-replicating order.
The proportions are in a way which reference each other.
In beauty we see not just an established pattern but we see how the pattern is unfolding itself, how it is one moment in time of something that is establishing itself and we see in that one moment also the past and the potential future.
The connections and proportions of the pattern are not just following any scheme but it’s that the pattern itself also contains the information of its becoming.
It’s not that something just happens or happened to the pattern, to its formation.
No, the pattern is happening.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:41 am

The egotistical overcompensate for their entitlement and arrogance with exaggerated claims of humility and victimhood.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:40 pm

Every person who has a debt owed to them, has an interest in keeping 'hope' alive for the ones indebted to them. No matter what the cost, so that they don't lose their initial investment or otherwise lose their 'credit' or future riches. It's easy to see why nihilism, then, is tied with monetary debt. No 'conspiracy' is required, only the instinctive self-interest of those who are 'owed'.

Glorified Captalism and monetary greed-focused individuals, who care about nothing but money and power, will sacrifice every promise or good will - poison the well of future-thinking with numbing nihilistic 'hopes', so that the ones indebted to them continue to provide dividends.

We see the glorification of money-seeking in Hollywood, with paid 'warriors' and hitmen who talk about money being the only thing that matters. Whole storylines of moral bad/good and dilemmas for the sake of the dollar. A noted exception is the movie 'Drive' where the man leaves the money completely and doesn't care much at all for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:04 pm

If God and His text is 'dead', then I can take ownership of the very concept - it was mine all along - even if the God concept existed before Christianity, it's still the case I'd be utterly ignorant of it and now I can put flatterous ideals in His stead.

Like a negated memory that refuses to de-countenance itself. When I remember the dead, like ancestral fathers, I still allow them the responsibility of their representation within my own mind. But if something never existed, why can't I just treat it as a unicorn? Or Santa Claus? Perhaps the former, including the ancestors, never made claim to ownership over everything.

And what religion, what behavior, would claim ownership to everything except that which cannot accept its own death? And a Persian Trutherism where one cannot conquer or adequately manage their own fear of an indifferent world, so proclaim everyone to be victims of it. Being a victim is meaningless without an 'aggressor', and some explanation must be made for when times are good.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:51 pm

The state has become a strap-on, a plastic dildo for the circumcised individual. It gets exchanged as death progresses, from father to son, or uncle to nephew. Sometimes they all join together and distribute its ability. When a masculine person challenges one of these people who share its great power (which is acquired through their service, as all fiat economies come to represent), they're declared a 'faggot' for not having the connections these metrosexuals do. And, above them, the 'philosophers' and 'thinkers' who direct the opinions of the metros, that openly laugh at the challenge of men who at least try not to take a path of competing over who has the right to deceive who. The 'kings' which depend on lies.

Before the power of money, they prostrate themselves, their integrity, to keep the 'hope' alive. Expert sophists, with a vocabulary full of narcotics and sedatives.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:30 pm

Paranoid imaginations, wive's tales, believing the deathly/fatal accounts of others, is an important evolutionary adaptation to prevent the ingestion of toxic plants or seeds in children (and even adults).

Those who take advantage of this for personal gain, put the whole of society at risk, compromising the immune system of their children. Not only by a possible dissolution of the behavior, but a complete and utter flooding of the behavior as each person strives to lay claim to the authority behind it. Because it is too risky to rid oneself of the esoteric behavior, if it becomes flooded with bullshit claims, it also becomes way too prevalent and paralyzing; making it so no risks are taken and it leaves the group vulnerable to outside invasion.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:44 pm

There is this guy who when he doesn't like the taste of something he doesn't say that he doesn't like the taste but claims that the food is not healthy because of chemical additives or contamination through industrial processing.

At first you would think this guy is some kind of health nut but once you have realised the actual pattern behind what is being eaten and what is refused due to health concerns you know what is really happening.

This is not some kind of special case. Modernity is full with those people who depend on this kind of self-deception.

Reminds me of the cookie in the dungeon. >Please, we need to believe what people say and not form our judgement based on pattern recognition, on recognising the pattern of actions.<

Too bad that the cookie declared himself and everybody else to be equals and thus if the cookie says or proclaims something there is no way to show how much of a cookie he is. Because he said so.
He wins every round by default because everybody is equal, no?
He wins every round because he is just as much as a winner as everybody else, by default.
It's one of those human rights, probably.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:36 pm

The government and the press is the immune system, the 'alerter', of a collective people. To take on any task but that of protecting a nation of people, who willingly associate, is to impose disease upon them a disease. A government must be satisfied with getting dirty, so that the people can have a clean conscience. It is this privilege of a state striving for a clean conscience that, when given to women collectively (or an effeminate nation), manifests as hedonism.

The state must make the decision with this interest in mind, for what it will liberate or suspect/watch. What it will monitor and what will have free expression. If ever the state becomes a burden on the people, it has failed in its duty and it is better that it be eradicated as an overburdened and diseased construct which tries to manage as many people as possible, while keeping only a select few liberated.

If a foreign body takes over the state or the press, the people have a compromised immune system.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:42 am


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The Big Five Personality Test wrote:
You Are Highly Open to Experience
Your score for openness was high, at 85%.

Openness describes a person’s tendency to think in abstract, complex ways. High scorers are prone to associative thinking, meaning that they readily see relationships between things. People high in Openness are more able to connect seemingly unrelated concepts, making them more likely to appreciate art and unusual ideas.

People who are high in openness are typically:

Creative
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Artistically Inclined
High Openness scorers are more likely to be politically liberal and to participate in artistic and cultural activities in their leisure time. They tend to be drawn to artistic and scientific careers. High Openness scorers are also more likely to have a high IQ.


You Are Highly Conscientious
Your score for Conscientiousness was high, at 83%.

Conscientiousness describes a person’s ability to exercise self-discipline and control in order to pursue their goals. High scorers are organized and determined, and are able to forego immediate gratification for the sake of long-term achievement.

People who are high in Conscientiousness are usually:

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People high in Conscientiousness are more likely to be successful in their careers and less likely to develop addictions of all kinds. They have high levels of self-control and are good at resisting impulses. They usually have neat, organized homes and orderly, well-planned lives.


You Are Moderately Extraverted
Your score for Extraversion was moderate, at 58%.

Extraversion describes a person’s inclination to seek stimulation from the outside world, especially in the form of attention from other people. Extraverts engage actively with others to earn friendship, admiration, power, status, excitement, and romance. Introverts, on the other hand, conserve their energy, and do not work as hard to earn these social rewards.

Extraversion seems to be related to the emotional payoff that a person gets from achieving a goal. While everyone experiences victories in life, it seems that extroverts are especially thrilled by these victories, especially when they earn the attention of others. Getting a promotion, finding a new romance, or winning an award are all likely to bring an extrovert great joy.

In contrast, introverts do not experience as much of a “high” from social achievements. Thus, they don’t make as much effort to seek them out. Introverts tend to be more content with simple, quiet lives, and rarely seek attention from others.

Your mid-range score on this dimension indicates that you are fairly average in your motivation to seek out social rewards. You probably have some desire for admiration, influence, and prestige, but you can also be content when you’re not winning recognition from others.


You Are Low in Agreeableness
Your score for Agreeableness was low, at 30%.
Agreeableness describes a person’s tendency to put others’ needs ahead of their own, and to cooperate rather than compete with others. People who are high in Agreeableness experience a great deal of empathy and tend to get pleasure out of serving and taking care of others. They are usually trusting and forgiving.

People who are low in Agreeableness tend to experience less empathy and put their own concerns ahead of others. Low scorers are often described as hostile, competitive, and antagonistic. They tend to have more conflictual relationships and often fall out with people.

Your low score in Agreeableness indicates that you put your own needs first most of the time. You may see other people as a threat to your ability to get what you want, and you often suspect ulterior motives in others. You are mostly unwilling to sacrifice your own needs in the service of other people.


You are Moderate in Neuroticism
Your score for Neuroticism was moderate, at 50%.

Neuroticism describes a person’s tendency to experience negative emotions, including fear, sadness, anxiety, guilt, and shame. While everyone experiences these emotions from time to time, some people are more prone to them than others.

This trait can be thought of as an alarm system. People experience negative emotions as a sign that something is wrong in the world. You may be in danger, so you feel fear. Or you may have done something morally wrong, so you feel guilty. However, not everyone has the same reaction to a given situation. High Neuroticism scorers are more likely to react to a situation with fear, anger, sadness, and the like. Low Neuroticism scorers are more likely to brush off their misfortune and move on.

Your score indicates that you are fairly typical in your tendency to experience negative emotions. You probably feel sadness, worry, anger, and guilt about as much as the average person. You are neither overly reactive, nor especially resistant to the stresses of life.


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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:54 pm

Every civilization, throughout time, has had its share of dead-beats, leaches, and below average minds, that it had to put to use, absorb, as a cost, or deal with in some other way.
Free-Radical males, produced by feminization, and originally dealt with with the technology/technique of marriage, is an example.

In our time, this is not the case.
We might consider technologies that divert and expunge un-gratified natural energies, as a modern advantage.
By far, our present day technologies and techniques can absorb and deal with larger quantities of free-radicals, and collateral costs of sheltering.
For example, modern techniques and technologies can absorb the costs, of babies born mentally retarded or crippled, and adults who become disabled in the course of their life.
In the wild infanticide, and conflict dealt with such issues arising from cooperative coexistence, and the advantages synergy provided.
But, if we are honest, we can imagine that these methods are not limitless.
Techniques and technologies have to advance exponentially, as to absorb these collateral side-effects, or the entire system will collapse or revert back to a previous system.
The question is, how much stupid/weakness can the system absorb, and recycle usefully?

Our current dilemma concerning robots and the emerging technologies of artificial intelligence, has to do with this factor.
The master, becomes slave to the slave who he becomes completely dependent upon.
How much degeneracy will robots, machines, manage to sustain, and at what point will the mechanical support surpass the ones it is supporting by offering compensations for their increasingly declining potentials?
If you think about it feminization is another way of saying infantalization - the gradual reversion to a child-like state - pre-sexual, pre-self-identifying, self-aware, pre- self-conscious...a state of perpetual self-rediscovery, and play - fantasy being the detachment of imagination from reality, a reversion to childishness before it becomes aware of the limitations imposed upon it, and its games, by the world.

Playing was a way large-brained species cultivated the traits required to deal with reality. These days it has become an end in itself.
Cynicism is a product of playing with reality, as if it did not matter, as if nothing mattered - a blanket condemnation of all to ridicule, because the mind is unable to distinguish superior form inferior, or it is so sheltered that it does not matter to it - it is indifferent to what is truth, because it has no cost too severe for it to care.
How much cynicism and adolescence, can a system absorb, before it is forced into sudden sobriety?

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:53 pm

For America, where's there's "Free Speech", all it seems to take is converting enough impenetrably dense and convincing zealots to your side that are unable to be killed off, to start a political movement. Armed with a few simple truths and a belief in their own victimization, they'll be able to skyrocket support for their ideology. I don't think it may have been much different than with Christians in Europe, whom preach to the tribe their message; and the townspeople, as unknowing as they are, don't see it fit to murder their ethnic kin over having a loud mouth. It only took their children softening up to a life where Christianity or Christians appeared to be a 'normal' occurrence. The logical end of its ideology covered by 'sin', that's eternally forgiven.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:26 pm

The haters of life, the most resentful, they will never surrender because they wish to take down everything which opposes them. Even if they're losing and they know it - and they know they will be slaughtered, they will not surrender and will not concede or admit defeat. Even if the opportunity is there for them to negotiate, they won't. They are not simply determined by survival, but by spiritual revenge - to do everything in their power to make their defeat as indignifying to their enemy as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:18 am

To the postmodern, conversation is a power struggle, not a way of transferring information. Allies become those who agree they need power - and all conversations ends up becoming a contest of measuring who gets what power from the institution.

Men can accept some 'defeat' in conversation because they know there's an external enemy: the world (Chaos/flux) and other men/tribes. When the only 'world' these postmoderns know are ones of society, of urban dwelling and ghetto craving, ravenous pity seeking; then there's no understanding of the male perspective of outside enemies.

That someone can argue against your state for being nationalist, while simultaneously arguing there are foreign enemies they make a huge fuss about, justifying their own state being nationalist, while also saying the withdrawal of or the non-intervention of your state is a bad thing, then the conclusion that they believe themselves worthy of owning both your state and their own nationalistically is unavoidable. So, also, is the conclusion that they believe you deserve no state of your own which represents you.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:22 pm

A hypothesis: the promotion of women in STEM comes from complaints by the tech industry that they're held to a standard in which they are required to hire 'minorities' (USA has the Griggs vs. Duke Power Co. supreme court case which says meritocratic hiring practices are racist or sexist if they result in different representation in employment than is present in the populace). These companies have to hire women or non-whites in order to keep the government off their back (H1B Indians serve a dual purpose: cheaper labor and brown-skin diversity hire).

Large corporations have to find something productive for these people to do, especially tech companies, when they're unable to perform the job they need to be done. Getting more women in STEM might mean, for them, finally having productive workers that aren't just there to be 'diversity hires'.

Instead of attacking the legislation of equal employment because of the accusations of 'racism' and 'sexism' that would be thrown onto them, they instead seek profit through trying to make the populace into its own ideal, given the legal circumstances/framework they are put under.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:54 am

Humility of mind: the absence of arrogance, stubbornity
Humility of spirit: the absence of character, grit, or pride

These two are often interchanged for the sake of dialectical maneuvering.

One person says cosmopolitan attitudes and idea(l)s would be nice or preferable, the other says they are expected.
The first says to be understanding of those who fall from it or are unable to live up to it (due to realities such as race or sex; be accepting/tolerant of some inequality as a consequence of this) where the latter have no tolerance whatsoever; they demand that others be tolerant of their own intolerance, instead. When called out, the latter resorts back to a narrative and argumentative structure which resembles a complete abandonment of all cosmopolitan idea(l)s; demonstrating that they do not want to accept any of the costs, so are uncompromising anyway and that all their previous professions of being a believer were not only shallow, but downright deceptive and hypocritical. This becomes especially obvious when they start to resort to harassment and attacks, gossip, instead of discussion.

All have their own limits, but the latter demonstrates that they are either purposefully intolerant or they are incapable of even participating within the idea(l)s which they pretend to value.

Mention you're a national socialist or even just a racial realist to any of these latter people and watch as they transform into this uncompromising bigot.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:22 am

The struggle for 'honesty' is only relevant and preferable with your 'in-group'. Having an 'open society' without any criteria for entry or even just an extremely low criteria, is a good way of opening yourself to easy exploitation and the poisoning and theft of your national/societal commons.

Look at the cultural criteria, the barriers to power, to find out who are the 'chosen' and 'selected' for that power. Who is immune to criticism? What group? Not even about what you cannot 'criticize', but what you must support in order to achieve power. Perceive the lowest common denominator for ascension/among the 'ascended'. If the society is just or right, then that LCD will be sound and representative of the people in the society - or even just 'honest' to the people. If that LCD is one involving an utter contradiction/opposite narrative to the very pattern that represents power, like having to do with 'victimhood', then there's a good chance that whole society and nation is weak, fragile and corrupt.

Having the criteria for power being how much of a victim one is, is a great way of actually destroying power.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:07 pm

Power is the control of entropy, (re)directed away from yourself and in human warfare, onto others moreso than yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:53 am

Degenerate thinks - "They don't like me. I have to force them to like me or destroy them."

The creation of order requires discrimination, spatial separation.

The degenerate has no desire or aspiration for order. He is no active threat to the established order.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:00 am

Degenerate wants to revert to a form that can be easily absorbed into a welcoming, protective, pre-existent order.
Creative degenerates want to construct a self-referential, self-consistent, protective, sheltering, all-inclusive order to assimilate those who cannot construct one on their own, and feel validated by their inclusion. 

The more unreal, surreal, anti-real the construct is, the more sheltering, inclusive it can be. 
World, as in nature, is a threat....what must be corrected, healed, replaced with an alternate reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:31 pm

Scum play up their mistakes in performing their malevolent projects as, instead, proof of their innocence.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:43 am

Abstract intelligence enables lateral thinking, where without it would be sequential - like a calculator.

In climates that do not experience complicated change (deserts), the development of abstract thinking isn't necessary. With the utilization of more abstract thinking also came more abstract languages, which in turn created a different sphere of sexual competition. Not only did abstract thinking become necessary, but also the ability to think abstractly about one's own abstracted thoughts. In order to help survival and compete, new levels of self-knowledge had to accumulate, necessarily restricted lower levels of self-knowledge as a cost for creating power-for-self. This is the quantitative addition or qualitative modification of one's own will, to focus it on a task most suited to help you. Out of this also arose 'expertise', which then split off quantitatively into compartmentalization in economies.

Lateral thinking also enables new mental illnesses, such as schizophrenia. As the simplification of phenomenon to a more succinct noumenal concept makes it more likely to detach from actual experience. This is 'objectifying', if done correctly. If not, it is 'secularizing', where one has detached the knowledge from all experience of self (and the world).

I realize there are some problems with using the term 'secularizing', as it typically denotes the move from a spiritual belief into a non-spiritual one. With my usage it appears to be going the opposite way. However, the usage is justified in my opinion because the performed thought-behavior rests on the same foundation: they are both (from the Pagan approach) nihilistic to begin with. Some objections might be that spirituality is not always 'bad', and with regards to Paganism I can see how this might be important. The esoteric appreciation of ancesters would be necessary for one to experience their own humility (not in the 'guilt' or Abrahamic context of subservience to an extreme-other, but of to self and therefor to ancestors) and thus also better empower themselves. I am specifically, though, using the word in the Abrahamic context and maybe even more specifically in the Judeo-Atheist-Abrahamic context.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:51 pm

Humanists, anti-objectifying sex-deniers, fuck their mothers spiritually. It's no wonder they're obsessed with making their spouse look as much unlike them as possible. The more honest ones don't reproduce at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:54 pm

A chef practices for years, making meals for his family, friends, and some strangers. Over time, he works for some restaurants and kitchens, selling his meals but underpriced. His acquaintances and fans take advantage while he is young. Ardent enthusiasts know his skill is superior, and so his popularity rises. He is selling himself short.

After enough time passes, and skill accumulates, his rare and more expensive ingredients require funding. He needs to begin selling his services for what they are worth. The prices rises to match his skill, expertise, and popularity. The free meals come to an end, except for perhaps his most immediate family.


So too with Philosophy. The free meals must come to an end, eventually. No more free wisdom, knowledge, information, observation, education, for the masses and nobodies, who won't really appreciate the effort anyway.

No more pearls before swine.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:52 pm

I've probably written this many times before but bears worth repeating:

Under every great success are buried a thousand, forgotten, failures.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:17 am

i was asked "is it moral to be able to exercise discrimination?":
is it moral for you to open the door for a handicapped person more than for the nonhandicapped? discrimination is a double edge sword. you need it both for sympathy and antipathy.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:20 am

A reoccurring theme is where people with no stake in a social cause lend some support because people appeal to their supposed sense of decency or fairness. For example few white people had any reason to bother with the cause to end legal segregation of blacks and whites. But, a simple appeal to their decency, or an argument which emphasizes how a less discriminative government is best for all in the long run, and many lent their support. Then it soon became clear that few of those originally appealing to their sense of decency and fairness actually had any intention on continuing the original cause of lessening government discrimination as stated, and actually just sought new types of it.

My understanding is that self-labeled libertarians seek to actually lessen government discrimination while the political left and right simply seek varying forms of it. Chances are those with mindsets more inline with the libertarians are those who are fooled by the liberals/left who only temporarily feign libertarian values to get support.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:53 pm

A large society depends on group hierarchies and group distinctions to function.
If everybody is merely an individual then lying and deceitfulness becomes rampant because without prejudices, without pre-judgements via group affiliations there is no way to punish lies and deceit effectively. Furthermore there is no need for any group to regulate its group-members internally for gaining a bad reputation as a whole group themselves.

Modern identity politics of leftist origin is not about creating new groups and allowing them to gain a reputation through their actions. It's establishing groups and controlling their public perceptions. It's a way how to thwart a population from establishing accurate judgements. It's a counter measure to handicap the formation of experience based judgements.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:01 pm

Materialism is what happens when the fire is fading and you truly believe that this was it.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:10 am

Anfang wrote:
Materialism is what happens when the fire is fading and you truly believe that this was it.

Materialism is what happens when you want this, when you want the fire to fade.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2 Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:59 pm

The outsider which is forced inside, looking in on a society, feeling no brotherhood with them, makes generalizations of the culture, language and purpose. They (outsiders) understand them (the society) like they do a car they briefly glance at heading away from them in their rear-view mirror. Feeling no ownership, danger, or any sort of ability for power if it is secure (and working as intended), they complain about its boring character and extol the virtues of degeneration. This is while the populace viscerally feels connected to the traditions and customs of their culture, pounding away at the soil to create vegetation for their children, their children's children and they feel an investment in their orderly behavior for the payoff later. If not appreciated for great works within their nation, then they will be appreciated for providing the foundation of those great works collectively as a tribe or people. A 'working class hero'.
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