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I remember Petersons daughter because of how disgusted I was watching her with that vulgar cunt Joe Rogan taking this imbecyles insults and shaming towards her father that was completely unjustified with embaressed nods whilst this cunt looked at her with these hungry, flashing eyes, drawing satisfaction from her defeat and how he presented himself as victorious and dominant...I can watch Peterson because he is well-behaved and his meeknes causes him to be polite in debates, I just cant tolerate vulgarity, unlike Hannibal, bullets, gasoline and shovels is all I need to envision a perfect spectacle with them playing main roles.
Never saw that interview.
Peterson's psychology was evident when he refused to answer the JQ, and the types he chooses to converse with.
We can say the same about Trump.
His declaration ought to be considered in relation to his life choices, and those of his family.
A different picture arises - public versus private self......ego versus self.....personae versus character/caricature.

They say one thing, think a second, and do a third.
The last is the most honest, exposing the second....always disregard the first, or integrate it in relation to the other two.

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Nihilistic ideology always fails because it is rooted nowhere but in other ideologies and, at best, in emotion, sensation, pleasure.
This is why it 'must convince as many as possible', otherwise it reverts back to being impotent - knowledge with no benefit.
Real knowledge and understanding requires no popular validation - it is its own validation.
What do nihilists always blame it on?
Others.
It's not that their ideology is bullshyte, but that the world, including other humans, did not fully understand and make the required adjustments.
It requires mass participation - majorities, populism, mass acknowledgement.....proselytizing.

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is a phase in Freudian psychoanalysis - the anal type. A repression that is obsessed with expunging - faecal matter of sexual impulses. It's a stage of maturation - toddler where potty training becomes decisive.
I had to teach my son how to stop shitting in his diaper, so I know the trauma he must have experienced when he was told that something natural was restricted.  
Some minds never recover from the trauma - like not showing your genitals in public.

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a stage of development.
first you are told you cannot run around naked; then you are told you can't just shit and piss wherever you like, or the urge overcomes you; then its about not exposing your genitals, because this is an aggressive act challenging the 'alpha male's status'.
If the parents are deficient, first the mother and alter the father, the child never learns to adjust through each phase.
He uses them in public as acts of defiance agaisnt the status quo, agaisnt their won inadequate parents, in fact; thumbing their nose at auhtority as thow they were doing so agaisnt their inferior or absent parental figures.
Some become Marxists, others Messiahs.

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What can I say, I have a good eye for what's worth stealing.
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>In an age of decline the Messiah appears....like rats, or any vermin, to the presence of a decaying cadaver.

>The Messiah repeats the wisdom of the past in a way lost to the minds of those in the midst of a traumatic event - the decline of their sense of reality.
He appears as a saviour, offering a return to 'sanity' with concepts they've never heard before - repackaging ancient wisdom in verbiage the typical modern can be seduced by.

>Similar to drug use - the addict experiences an epiphany when in his/her decrepit state the drug offers joy and happiness - he associates it with a religious experience.

>Messiah are always presented as proxies for something else, i.e., god, or some other absolute, something profound and sacred, an icon, an idol.
He is not the solution, but the 'way'....always a proxy.
Saul converts Jesus into a proxy...others may choose Nietzsche as a icon/idol presenting themselves as the medium through which to attain his 'genius'...or Trump is made into a messianic figure, a proxy towards a pseudo-Utopia, names 'American Greatness', offering a return to a state that never was but exists in the mind of the desperate contrasting with the state that is.


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A 'sacrifice' made to your future children, not to their mother. essentially a self-sacrifice of oneself to oneself, i.e, an investment.
The problem with hedonism is that it makes you an addictive/obsessive manimal; impulses taking over your judgements.
Most of Modernity is about repeating the same experiences, as if they expect a different outcome.

After a few times of the same experience, a mind ought to be able to choose which ones it wants to repeat and which ones are useless repetitions of the same - qualification of your life is a life-sentence in a prison cell.
Gradually quantities have to give way to qualities - subtle nuances replacing the rawness of pleasure seeking.

Th foundation of hedonism is need/suffering - there is no gratification or satisfaction without there being a need/desire/want; without there being some form of stress.
Pleasure is the release of tensions - an ephemeral state.
Animals can only comprehend it, because it is visceral. they cannot understand what copulation si about, or why they feel such a powerful urge to do it, because they are animals...and hedonists want to remain animals, because its simple - easy.

Freud made a similar error...he remained on the level of sex and sexuality - pleasure...and did not delve into the source. Well, because he was dominated by sex,a s many of his tribe usually are.
We are mystified by what is totally contrary to our essence - so we are mystified by power, or love, when it contradicts our experiences, or when the definitions being given contradict our experiences.
Instead of questioning the definition, as it has been trained into us, we seek the reasons in otherness - the occult....there must be something hidden, the world is in error, it must be hiding something from me.

Everything is readily available to us...if we have the courage to accept what we see.

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2:40 - It's called schizophrenia, or compartmentalization, you big fag.
It doesn't make you mysterious, you fuckin' fudge pusher.
It simply means you're fucked up!!!
'Complexity' has been used by Desperate Degenerates for all sorts of occultism, obscurantist motives.
It simply hides their simplistic degeneracy beneath a veneer of insinuating pretentious 'sophistication'.
It's always those with something to hide - like their own lack of intelligence and talent - that claim to be 'complex', or that use 'complexity to imply that they know shit few know or can comprehend.
The idea of female 'complexity - no man can ever fathom - is based no romantic idealism, and perpetuated by emasculated man-children and woman. Some women know it's a crock of bullshit, but they benefit from the lie so they do not bother setting morons straight.
Female uncertainty and constant changing their mind and word-games, is not mystical. It's a sign of inferiority.
Like when the Jews use linguistics to imply profound wisdom, when all they are selling is superstitions and word-vomit to desperate imbeciles.

Who do you think will join the church when you've made heterosexual monogamy unnecessary?
Paedophiles and fags, you moron!!!
Male homos are best suited for an age of degeneracy - they've publicly admits to the most disgusting obsession of all, buggery.
To enjoy sticking a cock in the sphincter used to defecate, is about as low as any human can go.

Side-note: Watch Yiannopouls' teeth.
Compare his face to videos from a few years back.
He's had denture work.
Maybe his black lover broke them with his balls smashing into his face.
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Organism is automated reactivity to stimuli.
Higher organisms impose a awareness as a control mechanism, but it is still a small part of conciousness - that which we call self-consciousness can also be detrimental to organic reflexive reactions and negative in psychological contexts, producing procrastination, over-thinking, and self-consciousness - the source of the Nihilistic reactivity is a insecurity to what is, and what is not. A defensive reaction that has produced a slew of ideologies, some claiming to be "positive" and invigorating, promising power and gratifications on a hyperbolic level. Seductive to the degree that the mind feels wanting, vulnerable, and insecure.
The bigger the self-doubt, the lower one's opinion of one's self, the higher the exaggeration that can gratify it.
Absolutist thinking representing the epitome of self-abasement, and self-degradation....even if the individual consciously pretends to be secure, confident and self-loving.
Actions contradicting words - a dissonance that can only be approached from the perspective of actions - "first came the action" [sic], as Goethe said, as a response to the Abrahamic "first came the word".

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Why are so many Canadians on the forefront of the identity crisis, or critiquing and analysing post-modernism? Other than Stephen Hicks and Jordan Peterson, there’s Gaad Saad, and a variety of various internet “intellectuals”, too many to mention, spanning many different reactions to the influence of post-modernism.
Because Canada has no concrete identity. The Anglo-Saxons are committing cultural suicide, for reasons already explored, and the French have already destroyed themselves, and are now attempting to preserve what is left of them by enforcing the teaching of the French language on all citizens residing within their jurisdiction, i.e., Quebec. This gives Canadians an "outsiders" and detached view on western decline, coupled with its privilege geographical position - under the "care" of US hegemony - permitting the leisure to explore self in relation to reality.

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To be fair, taking pills probably also counts as "cleaning your room", getting your shit together as they say.
Whatever it takes to be a properly functioning member of society. Some others are cutting off their penis to better "function" as well.
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Interesting.

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To be fair, taking pills probably also counts as "cleaning your room", getting your shit together as they say.
Whatever it takes to be a properly functioning member of society. Some others are cutting off their penis to better "function" as well.

He admitted in the past he used to be an alcoholic. Not to mention his intellectual state always eminated signs of obsessive attachments to certain ideas, a desperation in him. He has always striked me as an emotional thinker. An addictive personality.
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Now that I think about it, if I were to imagine me being him, I'd be depressed and have some kind of anxiety issue too. In a cartoon, he would have a dark cloud drawn over his head at all times.
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The fact that one enters the medical field, especially clinical psychology, or psychology in general, hints at something.
His breaking apart in the defence of individuality was an important event.

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That moment when he refused to answer a question saying something like "I can't go there", is another clue.

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He had his merits.
If he showed weakness as he rose in influence, we can understand this as a product of the stakes rising, and exceeding the individual's tolerance levels.

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When the rewards more than compensated for the risks and losses, human need/desire took over - self-preservation, the subjective defensiveness of nihilism, usurped objectivity, and integrity.  
The vice was too seductive to preserve the virtue.

In a world of missing and/or inadequate fathers...lost children, unable and unwilling to grow-up, seek a father-figure, to tell it 'like it is' - what they find instead, promoted by mass-media, are more charlatans looking to make a buck on the need/desire of the lost and morally, spiritually, cognitively desperately degenerating.

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Freedom of speech is not some duty that entails that every individual has to accept and host everybodys elses opinions and thoughts, it means that there aren't laws in place making it illegal/impossible for somebody to speak his mind(as long as he does it in a civil and well-mannered way), it doesn't mean that everybody has to be welcome speaking their mind on an university campus or that I can't myself, hosting my own event and inviting speakers, can't dismiss somebody based on my own private views and opinions or that I can't express my own opnion that, people with views and ideas like Daily Stormer, should be monitored or 'boxed-off', only that I don't have a right to make it illegal/impossible for the people from Daily Stormer to speak in public and not have their civil rights etc. violated. Freedom of speech as an idea is not meant to be creating a perfect utopia where everybody speaks their mind and is listened to, it's simply an idea that is meant to enables ideas to freely circulate in a society and for people to then, more organically, choose their preferences orientationally which also involves, by the mass of the numbers, shoving some opinions onto the fringes and discriminating and 'putting them down' but in an ideal world, never silencing them directly.
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That being said I think Peterson is overrated and a coward and he doesn't represent the West but actively trades off between his own career and fame and his self-respect and integrity, fence hopping, and I also believe freedom of speech is over in USA and possible Europe also. You simply can't let a population so drugged-up and broken down have freedoms because for every Daily Stormer using freedom of speech to announce that Holocaust didn't happen and niggers are preparing for a race war, you will get an autistic, white freak shooting a mall or a school etc.
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"Freedom of speech" is a nebulous term alluding to the same obscurity as all the other "human or constitutional rights". Like all human inventions, its incompatible with natural selection. Where there is someone saying something against one thing, there will be the natural process of human tribalism as a response against that person to snuff them out. This is what the modern rightists don't understand. Thier free speech isnt predicated on a "right", divine or manmade. It's subject to nature's power struggles like everything else, which determines the survival or death of any conflicting force. Therefore, the left's hell bent crusade to abolish speech, shouldn't come as some shock or surprise to them if they understood how nature works. Competition begets competition, which must push through to dominance and ultimately control of an established domain, until something else takes it place.

The relationship between man and nature is a symbiotic one. Therefore, if someone decides to go around shooting thier mouths off about something, they should expect to have enemies. You stir the hive, expect to get stung or killed. These are the consequences and responsobilities, these are the actiive and reactive exigencies.

Cooperation is only contingent upon how effective survival suppresses competition; harmony is only possible in the aesthetic mind.
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One fag conversing with an emasculated puritan.
He never mentions Solzhenitsyn as often as he used to.
Only a pure self-aware degenerate would abandon hope of 'saving the masses' from this mental dis-ease.
Peterson is a typical naive hypocrite.
He's convinced himself he can "do good", meaning save the masses....by telling them to "clean your room" and telling them some obvious common sense truths.
He doesn't really understand the source of all this madness. The fag senses it...in himself. He understands the degeneracy characterizing the youth of the American dominated 'west'.
He doesn't understand its source but he gets its symptoms, and knows this cannot be healed...just like his nigger-cock loving faggishness cannot be healed, nor the contradiction in himself as also identifying with Christianity.

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What's ultimately sad about Peterson is his unrecognized and inherent weaknesses in himself that reared thier ugly head along a path he felt he knew as the "noble path", along a course he felt he was reserved in. Unresolved deficiencies inside himself that he had yet to ever truly face or control, and in times of conflict, in a time when his character was put to the test, he buckled under the weight on these weaknesses, despite riding a wave of rekindled strength he mustered, like a renewed sense of purpose or an old man "feeling" like he's a child again under an optimistic idealistic placebo.

Ironic, given his expertise in academic psychology. It exposes how meaningless and how little technical training and academics and the university does to teach someone about who they are. He was too busy trying to change others and the world, he forgot about himself. Strength can be forceful, only as far as the amount of weakness allows before it degenerates.

He was a product of his environment that he detested; destesting himself as being unable to overcome it, and finding his comfort in resignation to that which was always there.
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The last thing I will say about Peterson.

Aside from being a reactionary thinker, awakened to a sense of self that quickly deteriorated from a total unpreparedness, he was a product of what he opined against. His abrahamic intellectual, quasi-philosophical insights were in fact, passionate pleas of discontent of a modern society which had failed him and the world. His discursive rambling mind, and his hang-ups with human frailties and weaknesses which became a deep part of his sermonizing repertoire, was actually a diatribe about himself as part of his culture of marginalized disgruntled weakness obsessing over itself and its future. A grandiose insecurity brought into a limelight of intellectualism. Nothing he ever talked about had to do with anything other than what was unstable, resentful or chaotic about the human condition. His total inability to see past anything other than what was weak about the world, situated him into his plight of being a victim and a product of it. A weak frail thinker, appropriately as a sage in a weak and frail society, trapped in its own inadequacies. A holy fool taken away by influences and forces.
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Thought I would post Dutton's, and his friend's, critique of Peterson....



>>>"Word salads" are the culinary offerings of new age gurus selling some version of nihilism, with the usual detrimental psychological effects the secularization of the absolute has had on the masses.  
Without the anthropomorphism the average mind is unable to relate and to emotionally benefit from his belief. Replacing the one-god, for example, with an abstract idea of oneness, or nullity, allows for a mental connection but not a physical one - emotions are automatic reactions to external stimuli, so they require a physical presence, to trigger them - even if the 'presence' is theoretical.
To put it another way, when nihilism became idealistic, and ceased to have a physical component, as it did in spiritual version such as Abrahamism, it no longer offer a psychosomatic connection, which excluded the vast majority from its 'benefits'.
Spirit referring to the mind/body synthesis.
Secularized nihilism emphasized the mental, reaching its abstractive purest form in the absolute binary 1/0.

>>>Peterson weeps for Americanized Individualism.
Individuality emerging, out of some void, not requiring the group.  
This is anti-Hellenic, because the ancient Greeks, and pagans, placed the individual within the group - city-state - and so for them ostracising and expulsion was the worse punishment of all.
There was no individual outside the city-state.
Americanism exposes its anti-Roman essence, wearing a Roman semiotic garb, in its idealization of the individual.
more than just a method of mass mind control - divide and conquer - it reverts to Abrahamism where race, sex, are secondary to the individual's relationship with the absolute divine - there is no earthly authority nor identity, that can rival the absolute.  
All are equal in sin, i.e., in the nil. The absolute one, implies a parity in nil.
What cannot attain absolute oneness, omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, perfection, must be equally imperfect, or illusion, or a reflection of the absolute - a shadow.
Peterson offers a Protestant secularized version of the individual sinner - individualistic so as to not require an earthly mitigating authority - a church or a priest; each a reflection of the divine.
In this mindset, each individual is equally able to access the divine independently - not requiring any earthly group.
His antithesis to post-modernity's neo-Marxism, is that it contradicts the individual's representation of the divine.  
He offers a neo-Abrahamism that does not reject race and sex - the body - because it is a shadow of the absolute. Man made in God's image; every individual a spark of divinity.
For Peterson the 'individual' is sacred.
For these types of post God gurus the individual is a self-contained value system that requires no external validation - the individual has an intrinsic value which as thing-in-itself, when, in fact, natural selection implies the contrary that the individual is expendable because his value has to be proven, validated, via otherness.
To reproduce proves the individual's value, in relation to the environment.
Man-made environments - artificial - replace natural order with social order - based no ideas/ideals. In Modern systems one of these ideas is the parity of individual value in relation to the State - the collective - if the individual proves his utility, his/her popularity - collective evaluation of him/her.
This slight modification converts natural selection to social selection - genetic to memetics - which is the sign of nihilistic decay, because this, over a sufficient period of time, will produce a dissonance between natural order and social order, expressed as mind/body dissonance, or the contradiction of the ideal by the real.

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