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PostSubject: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:56 am

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:08 am

I'm working on higher quality ones now. One that I unfortunately can't show whole, and one that is unfinished.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:09 am

Why is it all erotic?
Why only the female form?

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:12 pm

Only two of those are erotic.
The others are nude figures, quite serene.

I draw masculine figures too, mostly for myself. I don't get nearly as many requests for those.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:17 pm

Not serene except for 3...and one looks like you were practicing.
Tension. 

The "male" figure is also very feminine.

Except for figures of humans, do you sketch other things, life forms?

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:19 pm

The reason I draw nude figures, is I want to.

I sometimes take on different subjects, and use different media, but the one thing I like to do is draw figures and portraits using nothing but 6B graphite.
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:24 pm

And the fact that you "want to" can be analyzed.
If you want to be taken seriously and not have your feminine nature be the subject, perhaps not continuously presenting yourself as sexual might help. 

I wonder what you could do with another subject matter ...non-human, for instance.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:30 pm

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Not serene except for 3...and one looks like you were practicing.
Tension. 

Perhaps we have different definitions for erotic.

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The "male" figure is also very feminine.

It was a commission.
I have many other model photos which were sent to me for inspiration, some that I very much look forward to, as they are delightfully masculine, you may say.
I also have many requests do draw a ... pudgier female figure.
Unfortunately these will have to come after the ones I am making for people who were so nice as to actually be patrons of my little artistic efforts.

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Except for figures of humans, do you sketch other things, life forms?

Not nearly as often.
Here is a watercolor I made for my friend. Evidently I am bad at watercolor.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:33 pm

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And the fact that you "want to" can be analyzed.
If you want to be taken seriously and not have your feminine nature be the subject, perhaps not continuously presenting yourself as sexual might help. 

I am taken seriously, dear.

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I wonder what you could do with another subject matter ...non-human, for instance.

Care to make a request?
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:35 pm

Sexual tension, around the neck, shoulders, fingers...insinuating.
Where it is not eroticism is on the horizon, past/future.

I like the watercolor, but you're better with black/white.
Desolation below wonder. 
Homage, to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:38 pm

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And the fact that you "want to" can be analyzed.
If you want to be taken seriously and not have your feminine nature be the subject, perhaps not continuously presenting yourself as sexual might help. 

I am taken seriously, dear.

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I wonder what you could do with another subject matter ...non-human, for instance.

Care to make a request?
Only as a sexual object, dear.
But you cultivate it.

I request a piece on sorrow and joy.
We've covered pleasure.
Let's go to implosive desperation and overflowing explosive abundance. 
One of each....or both in one.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:46 pm

Well it's pretty obvious what's going on in your head.
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:49 pm

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Only as a sexual object, dear.
But you cultivate it.

Only in the minds of the wonderers, and wanderers.
There is no object.

For now, it suits me to appear as a spider.


As to the real world, I'm a highly skilled professional in my field, a calm cool and collected friend, a damn good cook, and have a bit of skill for art.
Those who value me only as a sex object are fools and philistines.
As you know, I do not associate myself with fools and philistines.

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I request a piece on sorrow and joy.
We've covered pleasure.
Let's go to implosive desperation and overflowing explosive abundance. 
One of each....or both in one.

I will give it some thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:53 pm

Æon wrote:
Well it's pretty obvious what's going on in your head.

YEA I AM PROBABLY A LESBIAN LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:53 pm

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Only as a sexual object, dear.
But you cultivate it.

Only in the minds of the wonderers, and wanderers.
There is no object.

For now, it suits me to appear as a spider.


As to the real world, I'm a highly skilled professional in my field, a calm cool and collected friend, a damn good cook, and have a bit of skill for art.
Those who value me only as a sex object are fools and philistines.
As you know, I do not associate myself with fools and philistines.

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I request a piece on sorrow and joy.
We've covered pleasure.
Let's go to implosive desperation and overflowing explosive abundance. 
One of each....or both in one.

I will give it some thought.
I never accused you of being sexual in your everyday affairs and relationships. 
I commented on the drawings, which express an internal world. 
What you appear to be externally, or how you wish to appear, is another issue. 


Sure...think it over and post it when you're done.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:30 pm

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I never accused you of being sexual in your everyday affairs and relationships. 
I commented on the drawings, which express an internal world. 
What you appear to be externally, or how you wish to appear, is another issue. 

Nude in art is not exactly unheard of.

As to my conduct on this forum... I give a forum what a forum needs Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:33 pm

Yes...this is why your art is all nude females. 

I suppose you have evaluated the forum and its members, and you've decided that what is occurring here, or what is being discussed is best triggered by that...an effect you feed on.
So, you must consider yourself smarter than the average male.

Aren't you a hedonist?

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:03 pm

In other places where I've posted these same drawings, they are received with expressions of appreciation for beauty.

Here they might appear as a provocation.
Perhaps a reminder of things one cannot have.
A lil poke at a wound. A reminder of a need...

The beauty is there. The equipment for perception of beauty is also there.
However there is something in the middle.

How does one go about removing that clutter, in order to see beauty where beauty can be found?

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:41 pm

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In other places where I've posted these same drawings, they are received with expressions of appreciation for beauty.

Here they might appear as a provocation.
Perhaps a reminder of things one cannot have.
A lil poke at a wound. A reminder of a need...

The beauty is there. The equipment for perception of beauty is also there.
However there is something in the middle.

How does one go about removing that clutter, in order to see beauty where beauty can be found?

Other places are populated by simpletons and morons, who can only go so far in their judgment.
I see beauty everywhere.
But I also see what motivates its expression, and its appreciation. 
Let's reduce it down to a level you feel comfortable with.
I am shutting down all unnecessary cognitive functions. 

Yes...those were nice, beautiful drawings. 
They filled me with great pleasure, as I like black and white and the usage of shadows.
You have a talent you should cultivate by challenging your eye for details and in practicing many forms, and themes. 

I once listened to a bird sing...and was captivated by the beauty of its mating call....but I will not go further, cluttering the experience with vulgar reality.
Let us stop at beauty, as we ought to stop at pleasure...and just enjoy. 
I am open to what you, innocently, offer. 
I will innocently receive it, and be grateful.

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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:51 pm

I like florals much more than straightforward nuditity, a floral painting plays both to erotic fantasy as the shapes resemble these of a beautiful hip, breast, leg as to a technical fascination with design and function that seems to be at least somewhat masculine. A lot of your paintings are to me obscene, the erotic is very intense, the teasing of revealing ass with the hand, the messed and pressed blankets, the head tilted are all clear symbolisms - to transcendent primitive and base through art is one thing to me, to contain yourself at that level is another. Even if one paints a woman as she is, one can portray her with her eroticism in combination with the personality, emotion, soul, his intent towards her or vice versa. For example the next step down from these forms would be a whole painting dedicated to the clit for example...you could claim it is beautiful since it is symmetrical, attractive to the eye of some but why limit yourself with ones skill like this if one can do so much more...
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:00 pm

... Obscene?
... Primitive?
... Base?

A flower, dear, is a sexual organ.
Who taught you that you must cover yourself?
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PostSubject: Re: Some of my doodles Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:04 pm

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This would be an example of a nude where the tension is minimal, and the form has no sexuality, as it displays no perfectly spherical, large breasts, or protruding nipples nesting in a large areola. 

Notice in these two example the non-idealization of the human body.
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