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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyFri Jul 05, 2019 4:17 pm

A Desperate Degenerate will always perceive itself as the centre of existence - over-compensating for how helpless and insecure it feels - for how insignificant it was made to feel throughout its life.
In fact, the more insecure and insignificant it feels, the more it convinces itself of the opposite.
When it is the bait, it will believe it is the hand holding the line; when it obsesses, it will believe the object of its obsessions is obsessed with it; when it is manipulated it will convince itself it is in control.
Who but such a type would convince itself there is a God, who cares about its life, or that it is a participant in something great and powerful.....if not the powerless and the self-abnegating?  

No matter what circumstance, the motive is to protect the ego - inflating it with hyperbole, to scare away threats - like a puffer fish, ro a pussy-cat raising its hair and arching  its back.
When birds sing, they sing for it alone; when the moon rises, it rises to light its path; when a wolf howls it is calling to it, sending it occult massages in the dark.  

Narcissism is inevitable, when the brain evolved to protect the organism - and the ego is the lucid part of self that feels the insecurity the most.
Narcissism is how the ego over-compensates as it gradually awakened to its insignificant place on the natural order of things.
In the thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I go through how nihilism inevitably produces narcissism,a s a defensive mechanism.

Like a female who does not only want to be loved by a man, but imagines herself to be his one and only - irreplaceable - unable to fully accept the male/female part in the game of reproduction; unable to accept a harsher reality.
They are but means, but they want to believe they are the end in itself.  
And a man, would let her believe it, as long as it does not deny him his means to his real end.
How often do emasculated males fall in the same psychological trap? Modern males who convince themselves they will find the ideal woman, who will love them for who and what they truly are.   

Why do females file for divorce, more often than males?
Women are pragmatic, if nothing else. Their loyalty and romanticism lasts as long as their mind permits it - routinely changing their minds, over and over.
They fall in love/lust, as easily as they fall out of it.
"It's not you, its' me" "We've grown apart, it happens" "There's no chemistry, between us, any more"
Because only females fall, so fast and easily, for the romance hook-line-and-sinker, suddenly awakening to reality - either in regards to themselves or to the male they committed to, or had a fling with.
Women give themselves to the lies, men weave...and many males believe in the lies they weave, to make them more convincing.

It's part of what they call the 'seven-year-itch'....just long enough for a offspring of the human specie, to reach an age of relative independence.
This disparity of male and female promiscuity, makes it seem like males are 'dogs' - i.e., more promiscuous - and that females are 'loyal', when the issue is one of speed, dictated by something as obvious as the females role, necessitating a period of dependent - gestation and weaning period.

But for the Desperate degenerate, all this is subjective....so it follows the pattern, religiously surrendering to its impulses - believing it's all part of a grand plan - a matter of fate.
if they dare consider the alternative, they convince themselves that, despite not believing in objective reality, with a relative degree of free-will, they are in control of the situation they deny exists.
It's always a win-win scenario.
they cannot lose in their won head.
All they need is a chorus, to support their claim.  
And they always find it - birds of a feather always flock together, in a mutual support cabal, each reinforcing their fellow degenerate's desperate delusional self-deceit - reciprocity is the key to a stable relationship - whether it be in the world or in the jail or mad house.
I'll support your lies, if you support mine - co-dependence.

Something absent in objectivity, where the other is not necessary at all, but only as a comrade who sees the same. The standard is world whether there is anyone to lend support or not - the real is always real, even if you're the only one who sees it.
The standard offers Right is Might - even if it isn't exercised. It at least makes you immune to it, wihtout having to deny it through self-denial.

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When Desperate Degenerates say "control is an illusion" they mean 'absolute control' because with Desperate Degenerates its always a defensive absolutist standard being used to justify or discredit what threaten their fragile egos.
they say it implying a negative....i.e, nobody has any control - their lives are absolutely uncontrolled, uncontrollable, or controlled by an external agency, or external factors.
But of course there is no absolute control, but there is relative control - so one strives towards power (Will to Power) because he never has in his possession absolute power - omnipotence; one strives towards life (will to Life) because nobody is immortal.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyFri Jul 05, 2019 5:36 pm

Sometimes control is an illusion, sometimes we have to stop those authoritarian personalities.
It depends on the ethnicity of the person in charge and his her commitment to gl0bo-h0mo-gayplex.
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Yes, the homogeneity of the group is important.
The Spartans submitted to a kind, as homoio, similar.
The authority represented you, and so you submitted to yourself via a member of your genetic/memetic group, as this relates to nature - world.

A madman would not be a leader anyone would follow.

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there have always been Desperate Degenerates.
There will always be masses of individuals who are both desperate, and in their desperation become degenerate, attempting to compensate.
This is what Abrahamism owes its success to.
In the catacombs and cosmopolitan streets of Rome is where Abrahamism found ready and willing converts - desperation begging for guidance.

Every age has them because they are a by-product of sheltering - culling is intervened upon, as well as other natural processes that weed out the feeble, unlucky and idiotic from every herd.
But human protect their weak, no matter how fascistic they are.
They multiply, until they bring a civilization crumbling down.
If it were not Christianity then some other nihilistic dogma would have emerged in increasing degeneracy, seeking an escape.
We can say that the popularity of degeneracy is a barometer of a coming shit-storm.
The numbers of Desperate Degenerates rise, as the civilization nears its collapse.

Like maggots emerging from a still living, but dying, organism.
Like cockroaches appear in numbers when a house is left to rot, or its owner can no longer maintain it.
When the owner can clean and properly maintain his house, cockroaches hide, their numbers decline, and they scurry into the dark crevices when the lights are turned on.
Ever noticed how Messiahs and doom-sayers, prophets, charlatans, snake-oil salesmen, cynics, and superstition paddlers emerge in droves as a civilization collapses?
No, of course not, because the life of a man, an organism, is nothing compared to the lifespan of a SuperOrganism, like a nation or a country, or an Empire.
Parasites become bold when the organism begins to decline to the pint where it has no energy to swat at flies, or to crush vermin crawling all over it.

To notice such processes on a SuperOrganic level you need a way of collecting and saving memories....like history books.
Now, if you read enough history you may see a pattern in the ascent and descent of cultures and civilizations. Something comparable to the birth, growth, and decline towards old age of a life form.
After a certain age, a person gradually becomes senile, his previous good health begins to deteriorate....small or large ailments begin to affect him; what he endured easily, like the flu, becomes unbearable even dangerous.
He can no longer maintain his hygiene, or take care of himself - latent diseases suddenly become full blown life-threatening events; he can no longer maintain his space.
His house begins to reflect his physical condition, if he does not receive help.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptySat Jul 06, 2019 8:03 am

Desperate Degenerates moralize all concepts yet, at the same time, they undermine the very foundations of their moralizing by rejecting free-will- to any degree.
If nothing and nobody is responsible for his own choices and actions, what then is moral and immoral?

But that's the point, for Degenerates; that's the underlying motive. They are not to be held responsible for their degeneracy.
In fact, for them, there is no such thing, because all is part of a determined order, a program.
Therefore, if a degenerate rapes a child, kills a mother, engages in every form of debauchery, destroys something beautiful due to his irresponsible uncaring actions, there's nobody is at fault.
It's a cynics delight. It's all inevitable.
Even awareness of impotence is not up to us. We are passive agencies - becoming aware of how powerless and impotent we are.
The universe increases our suffering by evolving our awareness. It determines our awareness of our own impotence and our own powerlessness.

Like the Abrahamic God who 'gives' Adam and eve free-will to prove to them how powerless they truly are.
the negative approach....you are free to not break the rules - in fact you are free to choose to not be free to choose.
A linguistic paradox produced by nihilistic infections.
Mind-boggling buffoonery.
Self-deception?....no, self-numbing.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptySat Jul 06, 2019 10:50 am

You can catch a glimpse of the true essence of a Desperate Degenerate, in between its cynical condescension remarks and its hastiness to declare itself victorious, or in-control of the situation; dominating everyone through sheer wilful declarations drunk on self-flattery.
Like a cockroach caught in the open, when the lights are suddenly turned, on it scurries for the shadows, the corners, to make its last stand.
These types are always full of themselves, above and beyond their true quality.
Funny thing is they offer little personal input. They hide behind mediators - those with 'higher pay grades' or who are dead but still have an influence - they covet the influence, the effect, but can only perceive causality as external. sop they can never learn and adjust themselves to participate, but can only comment, and collect data, and analyse determining factors, as if they were watching a tennis match from the stands.  

Their ego cannot endure the possibility that their judgement is retarded by their won attitude and their own convictions.
When its point, set and match, they kick the ball inot the stands, and declare themselves as participating in a higher, a different game.
Let's play football, in the middle of a tennis match, when the game is lost.
They've become talented spin-doctors, always finding an excuse a way of hiding their won quality - it's some other, and when it isn't the game is rigged, or they pretend to be on a higher plane, playing a higher game.

Of course they never learn because they never hold themselves accountable for anything.  
How can you adapt and adjust when you are never at fault? If they ever accept fault - part of a pretentious of humility - then its never personal, its always something universal. All are at fault, and not just them.
It's part of a predetermined plan....some universal order, if not God.
How can you be proud when you can never be made to feel ashamed, discovering methods to remain shameless in your degeneration?

They call it Pride month to make decadence a positive; converting and inverting, a vice into a virtue.

There's always a word game to manipulate, and when it is uncovered, then a patronizing remark an excuse, and comic relief as they make their exit.
Always projecting on others what they fear others will discover about them.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 2:35 pm

Modernity is degeneracy across the spectrum.
Spread by vermin, for their own purposes - paddlers of degeneracy.
Degeneracy taking advantage of desperation.

Degeneracy of intents and purposes.
Degeneracy of practices and methods.
Moral degeneracy is but the tip of the cesspool shit-berg.
Degeneracy of language, first and foremost.
Degeneracy of art.
Degeneracy of history, and past.
Systemic degeneracy.
Degeneracy of customs and family.
Degeneracy of human relationships.
Degeneracy of identity and sense of self.  

Horizontal and vertical degradation.
A slow collapse, as the foundations are chipped away by termites, consuming them with gluttonous glee.
Degeneracy of spirit.
Degeneracy of mind and body.

Hypocrites, cowards and douche-bags will be the last man's cry for help, as the edifice comes crashing down around him.
This empire of dirt, is on its way down.  



Is 'Cash' channelling America's lament?
Has cash become America's song of degeneracy and decline?

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyMon Jul 15, 2019 4:05 pm

It's not that some concepts and the words associated with them, cannot be anchored to an objective reality, all can test, perceive and falsify, it's that desperate degenerates only pretend to be interested in doing so when, in fact, their goal is to make all concepts that frighten them, or contradict their own objectives, must be rendered ideological theoretical concepts with no basis in reality.
This is a false pretence, hiding an ulterior motive.

They will refuse to anchor words using all sorts of feminine excuses, like: 'the anchoring is uncertain', or 'it isn't absolutely solid or 'it's too deep, make it more shallow; it's now too shallow, the anchoring is not solid enough to trust'....and on and on.
All linguistic strategies used by children and women when they do not want to do something they know they must and insist that they want to do.

The strategy is one that begins with the negative - nil.
If no absolute anchor can be found, then all is floating on a liquid surface.
It must be absolutely solid, or northing at all.
They do so selectively, so as to appear as though they were seeking a solid grounding for ideas, when their only interest is retaining some as too ambiguous to ever pass judgement on.
They believe that in this way they are saving themselves from the concepts and what they imply because all is subjective so if they refuse to accept a theory it ceases to apply to them.

This, of course, emoting they call 'philosophy and they apply it selectively and strategically so as to hide their methods.
So they will accept as probable an idea on the flimsiest of arguments and evidence, and then totally dismiss another with superior arguments and evidence, on the ground that it isn't absolutely certain; they will accept the most idealistic prose as 'ontological and then dismiss an idea that is pragmatic because it fails in their ontology standards to convince them.
It's the feminine method of applying a double standard, also used by emasculated males and degenerates of all sorts.

The method pretends to be concise, when it uses one standard of pragmatism in some contexts, so as to pretend intellectual integrity, and then a stringency approaching supernatural demands, when it comes to other contexts, so as to dismiss and ignore what threatens their feel-good established beliefs.

So words like love, morality, race, sex, gender, can be maintained as ideological abstractions with no phenomenal references, because they refuse to use empiricism to ground their opinions, to anchor their judgements, because they do not wish to give-up their established defensive ideological abstractions.
Knowing they can offer nothing superior, as an alternative theory, they engage in scorched-earth strategies....burn it all, until nothing is left but a uniformity of ash.

This is pure nihilism.
Absolute nil used as a weapon of destruction.
The other side of the same binary.






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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyTue Jul 16, 2019 2:05 pm

Basically a Desperate Degenerate does not want to exit his or her 'safe zone', i.e., the intellectual realm within which he/she feels comfortable.
Everything outside this zone must be reduced down to his own comfort levels, or it will summarily rejected as now qualifying to the standards of his/her own comfort zone.

The Desperate Degenerates 'safe area', his/her comfort zone, is what lies within the subjective, i.e., his/her own level of knowledge and understanding, using his/her standards.
So, when you place the standard outside his/her safe zone he will negate it - using the absolute as the unattainable standard - or he/she will refuse to use an external standard that is outside his/her safe area.....therefore scientific empiricism is beyond his/her comfort zone, unless it is delivered by a icon/idol with who he/she feels an intimacy, and so is within his/her comfort zone.

Dead icons/idols work because they cannot contradict the interpreter, the believer. He can interpret his icon/idol in any way he wishes, or he can adopt a popular or a unique interpretation, depending on the underlying motive.

What a Desperate Degenerate usually feels as his/her 'comfort zone' is what is within his/her control, if not what is within his level of knowledge and understanding, i.e., what he can integrate into his already established beliefs or what he can easily dismiss as irrelevant, because there is no immediate perceived impact.
This is why such hypocrites become selective in their application of their own standards.
If the subject matter is non-threatening - or no threat is perceived - then one standard is used; if it is threatening, or a threat is perceived, then a different standard is applied.
The former is open ended and flexible, until a threat is exposed; the latter is stringent, demanding, and, often-times absolute so that no idea can ever attain it ans so it can be dismissed without a second thought.

Defensiveness develops methods over a lifetime, so an older mind will have established its defensive lines and its responses to what it refuses to even consider.
Defensiveness that has been adopted or formulated over time, and can also justify itself to itself, closing off the encircling perimeter of 'veritas'.

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A Desperate Degenerate will always integrate his chosen icon's/idol's concept into his defensiveness, and this is why he will only choose an icon/idol who is dead, or distanced, so that it can never contradict his own interpretation and application.
Icon's/Idols like Nietzsche, and his "Will to Power"; Heidegger, and his "Dasein"; Jesus, and his "Love Ontology"; Buddha, and his "transcendence of self" - but any icon/idol will suffice - lend themselves to reinterpretation and application, often in contradiction to the icon's/idol's positions.
A Desperate Degenerate can achieve this primarily because he is not the creator of his own beliefs, but he simply adopts what is provided to him from a mediator - an authority figure acting as a reinforcing agency; secondarily, it is because a Desperate Degenerate does not triangulate and juxtapose the idol's/icon's teachings with himself and the world around him. He fails, or conveniently rejects this juxtaposition as a method of testing his adopted interpretation of his preferred icon's/idol's insights.
It's becomes a matter of finding a popular mediator to stand behind, as a follower.
He cannot or will not, juxtapose the icon's/idol's words - representing concepts - using himself and the world as the two other points of triangulation, seeking a precise position within space/time.
The icon/idol becomes the standard he evaluates his own understanding agaisnt, using the mediator as the third point of reinforcement. A triangulation entirely enclosed within subjectivity - one's own and that of another. There is no external reference, such as an indifferent cosmos, acting as the ever-present - not absent, not distant, not dead - standard of evaluating one's interpretations - understanding.
Then it's all about finding and adopting a formidable mediator, referring to a popular icon/idol - the one with the most inspiring, triggering, prose, will be considered 'formidable - a psychological submission to an external authority ,finding 'pride in your acceptance and submissiveness to your fate.

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Trump was called "worse than Hitler". None want to ponder the implications, dismissing it as 'crazy talk'. If the depravity escapes one's own, they dismiss it as they've been taught depravity is victimhood, and must associate the depraved with 'the lesser privileged' and never simply 'the more depraved'.
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Desperate Degenerates have a panoply of methods to dismiss what frightens them.
It usually involves a way of presenting themselves as "innocent victims".
You can see this clearly in their positions on "free-will", compared to "eternal return".

They absolutely dismiss what they reject - accountability - but have no issue with an abstract unprovable theory that implies eternal existence.
Even when you "bring it down to earth," by connecting both concepts "free/will" to behaviours and activities that are observable they refuse it because they must retain the concepts they accept in a state of self-gratifying ideologies they can then claim are subjective or socially constructed.
Anything that reminds them of their powerlessness, and inferiority, and their own culpability, exposing a "poor judgement" beneath all the pseudo-intellectual posturing - using references and deferences - is dismissed.

"Free-Will" is very much like the Hindu based "eternal return" in that it serves to expose a psychology - a motive.
Eternal return is even more unprovable a concept than free-will as the Desperate Degenerate insists on defining it - yet most Degenerates have no issues with it, because of what it implies.
They do have an issue with the possibility of any degree of "self-determinism" because then, in accordance with their own evaluation's of their own circumstances, using their own judgements, they are not as "smart" as they want to think they are - their "smarts" are mostly based on referencing, and deference to other minds.
They are not "happy" with themselves and their circumstances, but to accept any degree of responsibility would mean they would have to admit to an error in judgement, not based on another mind's writing and insights; they would have to readjust their self-evaluations downward, to account for past errors in judgement.

Freedom is about choice.
Choices participate in the determination of future options.
Choices made are based on judgements. Judgements expose the quality of the mind's awareness and its self-control, within fluctuating circumstances.
Consciousness is a constant triangulation within fluid environments.
Most of the process is automatic - unconscious - but it does become lucid in higher organisms, increasing the impact of personal culpability.

This is why we ascribe to animals an "innocence" we do not to humans - it is presented allegorically in the Hebrew's Old Testament.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyFri Jul 19, 2019 7:21 am

A "slave" is an individual whose circumstances are entirely determined by an external will - a master; God, or Order, or Humanity. It can take the form of a conscious otherness, or an unconscious abstraction (idea/ideal).
A slave has no control over his own fate. He is entirely controlled by the external.
Therefore, he is not responsible for his condition.
Slavery, and incarceration, can become pleasing when a spirit has been institutionalized – broken down, retarded, degraded, losing its self-respect and its sense of trust in its own judgements. In philosophy this is displayed as a deference to external “icons/idols”. The mind cannot engage reality directly, but only through a proxy – adopting their positions verbatim; shifting from one authority/master, to another, as the external dynamics change.
A slave always wants to belong to a master. When one master is debilitated, permitting him to escape, he runs to a new, more powerful, substitute.
Choice = Freedom; Awareness = perception of options; Power = ability to make a choice from the available options the individual is aware of; Judgement = evaluation of self and world (power), in relation to a choice.
A slave sacrifices his power to increase his safety, because he has lost trust in his own powers and his own awareness; deferring his judgements to an external entity (master).

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptySat Jul 20, 2019 5:17 am

Slaughtz wrote:
Trump was called "worse than Hitler". None want to ponder the implications, dismissing it as 'crazy talk'. If the depravity escapes one's own, they dismiss it as they've been taught depravity is victimhood, and must associate the depraved with 'the lesser privileged' and never simply 'the more depraved'.

It is also the case they will not associate the more depraved with being a greater victim. That would interfere with their 'superiority', being "the greatest (sane) survivor". Calling another crazy excuses their responsibility to understand and engage, to perform activism - and excuses cognitive dissonance of the faux-superiority and implications their depravity is what it is to whatever commensurate degree with the other.
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Desperation is the Degenerate's secret pathos. It's what fuels his addictions/obsessions.
Both body and mind in synthesis.
Degeneracy is the source of his pathos.

Degeneracy makes him Desperate, which increases his Degeneracy - in a circular downward spiral into oblivion.

Vengeance is his motive.
He's lost hope of escaping degeneracy, but he still hopes to bring the world down with him, before he vanishes into the abyss.
His ploys are child-like - something a retarded female would use to manipulate men who have rejected her.

As long as she can receive some feedback - elicit some kind of response - she thinks she's made an impact.
Her Degeneracy feels vindicated; her desperation momentarily abated.
She feels content.
But it's always the case with women, or emasculated men-children ain't it?
It's always how to manipulate language to receive what is denied to her. What she cannot have she must degrade, so that nobody can have it - if not her, then nobody.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 11 EmptyWed Jul 24, 2019 7:13 am

Desperate Degenerates have no answers, they only want to destroy them, so that their own inferiority is not so obvious.
They annul, doubt, seed negativity, desiring to reduce all to their level, where equality will make their inferiority imperceptible.

The idea of superior/inferior terrifies them because they intuitively know they are not, nor can ever be, superior in any pragmatic and significant context.

Self-Awareness has exposed them to their own essence, filling them with insecurity and vulnerability.
In the idea of absolute nil is where they seek refuge.

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Schopenhauer, Arthur wrote:
In the sphere of thought, absurdity and perversity remain the masters of the world, and their dominion is suspended only for brief periods.

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A Desperate Degenerate uses uncertainty - the absence of complete, absolute certainty - as an excuse and a justification to remain inert - solidly entrenched in his degeneracy.
If no omniscience is possible - god being dead - then nothing can ever be held with any certainty - stagnation ensues.
A consensus of ignoramuses settles for a communal agreement to disagree, finding the lowest-common-denominator to bind them in a tenuous unity of mediocrity.
Of course, one does not demand absolute certainty to act, unless one is a complete dimwit looking for an excuse to remain on the fence, or that wants to reject a probability but does not know how, so he finds in its uncertainty a reason to reject it.
Dimwits are usually hypocrites of the first degree.
Building certainty from the ground up is the method practised by noble minds the world over.
A combination of inductive and then deductive reasoning.

To start with you must ground the words you are using - or as many as possible - upon an external world, which will act as the standard of evaluating your subsequent conclusions.
Dictionaries are useful for communicating ideas, but not for building certainty.
Words anchored in reality, is a start.

Certainty will never be attained completely and totally - absolutely.
But a probability will be gradually produced that will exclude other possibilities, without entirely negating them.
Everything is an approximation.

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The absolute is what Degenerates are Desperate for. Absolute certainty, now lost with the discrediting of the religions that pushed the one-god idea, and those who sought, and still do, solace in Marxism and the idea of a unified and uniform humanity.
The idea of absolute certainty is what is absent.
A negative, an absence, they exploit to discredit all theories that terrify them and promote theories that comfort them.

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Desperate Degenerates are imprisoned within text.
If not sacred text, then communication text, establishing restrictions on behaviour and on thinking - one to produce a false sense of security, and the other to facilitate communication.

Children of the book, by the book, for the book, are trapped by words referring to words...beginning with the Biblical declaration that first....."there was the word" - logos.

I adopt Goethe's words as my response.
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von wrote:
In the beginning there was the action.
The mental trap can be escaped through the dynamic interactivity of existence.
Words no longer referring, ad infinitum to more words, but to actions, to interactivity, i.e., existence, reality....world.
The subjective mind referring to world, exposing its level of objectivity.  

Men living within manmade environments are encased within a world of semiotics. They feel both imprisoned and relieved - institutionalized.
They refuse to leave the noetic enclosure - both hating it and loving it.



If not referring and deferring to Scripture, then the Dictionary acts as a limit to human thinking, dictated by man's need to relate and to share himself with other minds; a need to communicate his experiences.
Words no longer referring to actions, but to more words; symbols/words no longer mediating between noumena and phenomena, but between noumena and more noumena, encasing the mind in ideology: inter-subjectivity.
Mind is the "Divine". Within it all is rational; all is ordered - within it all is cleansed of its worldly fluctuating uncertainty.
Within it nature can be reduced to some basic natural laws, representing its order, as if they were of Divine origin, when man has created them to represent his awareness and his understanding of the world. But now Newtonian laws, reflecting the "middle world", are being contradicted by the Quantum realm; man is being confronted by a world beyond his perceptual-event-horizons.

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4:23 - synchronic vs diachronic understanding of words.

Marxism and Capitalism are within the same Paradigm of "value" - market lingo. Nihilism reduces the real into an ideal, represented by money - the abstraction of value.
Value which is intrinsic is religion placed within this paradigm.
Abrahamism gives way to Marxism which makes value the replacement of the "spirit" - being in itself, rather than an ongoing open-ended process - Becoming
Everything is measured in relation to abstracted value.

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Rats flourish where there are piles of garbage and faeces; anywhere where rot has set in.


Bernard Young.
Third-world peoples reduce any territory to a third-world environment if they are given control over it.

Detroit is another example.

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It depends...

If you imply that the residents of Baltimore are victims of something, in particular victims of the untouchable evil Whitey Soupremacy then it's okay to say that Baltimore is suffering from having been made into a shithole.

If you say it's due to, or partly due to, Baltimore's Black inhabitants or some Jewish slumlords then it's fascist to say Baltimore stinks.
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Desperate Degenerates are hypocrites and cowards.
They easily apply one standard in one context but then pretend to be unable to do so in another, demanding a different standard be applied when the implications expose them to what insults and threatens them.

So, in one context the flimsiest of arguments and evidence suffices to be adopted by them as probable, and to live their life by; but then no argument, no evidence meets the absolute standard which they've set for what they cannot endure to even consider as probable.
Unable to challenge they settle for seeding doubt, thinking that anything that does not meet the absolute criterion is argument and evidence enough to totally dismiss it.

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Anfang wrote:
It depends...

If you imply that the residents of Baltimore are victims of something, in particular victims of the untouchable evil Whitey Soupremacy then it's okay to say that Baltimore is suffering from having been made into a shithole.

If you say it's due to, or partly due to, Baltimore's Black inhabitants or some Jewish slumlords then it's fascist to say Baltimore stinks.
Jared Taylor doesn't openly say it but he knows that if you separate races and give them control over their own destiny history shows that Africans will reduce their into a "shithole", just like Africa.
Look at what is happening in South Africa after they took over.

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Degenerates are so desperate to unload the responsibility for the consequences of their own life upon something or someone other than themselves that they are willing to entertain any absurdity, no matter how far-fetched and lacking in reasoning and evidence.
Anything that hints at absolving them of culpability, and the feeling of guilt, will be cultivated into a theory equal in plausibility as any other.

Absolution is the ideal... whether through religion or through secular philosophy.
Anything to become the victim of circumstance, their own choices blamed on a god, and in lieu of one, other humans or the totalitarianism of absolute order - secularization of the same absolute.
Blame has to be unloaded or shared.

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Nietzsche, Friedrich wrote:
To the extent that everything strong and great is viewed by man as superhuman, as alien to himself, man diminishes; he divides between two spheres his two aspects, one pitiable and weak, the other strong and gripping; the first sphere he calls man, the second God.
Within the either/or absolutism of the typical Desperate Degenerate the absence of absolute is both weapon of slander and toy for cynical dismissal.
The ubermensch falls into this category of ideas, alluding to probabilities, that fill his/her fragile heart - he calls his ego- with fear - insecurity, vulnerability.
His primal fight/flight mechanisms kick-in, doing the work for him. He is compelled to react defensively, as if some internal will has taken him over...imagining it as something divine and external, to equate it with universal justice.
If not "god" - as he imagines it - then it must be a human construct, accessible to his own feeble mind to seek refuge in, or an inspiration he can claim as his own. If he cannot claim it, then he must slander it, as failing to meet his absolutist standards.
In the process he exposes his true essence - that needy, fragile heart - his ego.


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Marleau-Ponty, Maurice wrote:
When I dream that I am flying or falling, the whole significance of the dream is contained in the flight and the fall, as long as I do not reduce them to their physical appearance in the waking world, and so long as I take them with all their existential implications. The bird which hovers, falls, and becomes a handful of ash, does not hover and fall in physical space; it rises and falls with the existential tide running through it, or again it is the pulse of my existence, its systole and diastole. The level of the tide at each moment conditions space peopled with phantasms, just as, in waking life, our dealings with the world which is offered to us condition a space peopled with realities. There is a determining of up and down, and the general place, which precedes ‘perception’. Life and sexuality haunt their world and their space.
Primitive peoples, in so far as they live in a world of myth, do not overstep this existential space, and this is why for them dreams count just as much as perceptions.

Regression to a primitive state is accompanied by an increase in superstition - blurring the lines between the real and the ideal, the noumenon and the phenomenon; mind and body.
A methodical turning inward – esotericism – as the mind tries to detach from the world and live within itself, where everything is malleable and natural order no longer applies.
But the "problem,” for them, is that this method does not actually work – depending on an external will to protect them as they slip into their "detached subjectivity". So, like a drug addict, they must find kindred spirits, hoping to create a cocoon of multiplicity to safeguard them as they turn inward and make themselves vulnerable to a reality they must reject as illusory: they must make the world harmless so that when they slip into their dream-worlds nothing external will take advantage of their self-induced vulnerability.
But this is also delusional, and they intuitively know it... so they indulge in selective (surgical) self-delusion, or they simply never practice what they preach.
The last is what I've called the necessary lies of Nihilism. We see it vividly in Christianity.
It preaches one set of standards which are never followed, because they result in a quick death, if applied stringently.... like "turn the other cheek".
They invent a weekly or yearly absolution to explain why they can never apply their beliefs pragmatically – they are sinners – meanwhile, continuously attempting to absorb reality into a form that will make it harmless, allowing them, they believe, to finally apply their convictions in a world that contradicts them.
This was also true for Communism. It was so detached from the nature of man that its only hope was to eliminate all competing entities that would threaten it as it applied its own naive idealism.
Only in a world completely under its dominion could it finally become fully realized – or so it believed.
The internal spontaneous emergence of human "goodness" failed to materialize, forcing many to blame humanity, and not their own understanding of the specie.
We are presently in the phase of the same dogma using a different strategy to eliminate the threatening components form human nature, i.e., the reduction of everything into a human idea, a social construct; the gradual and persistent erosion of man's natural identifiers, enforcing a self-regulating internal process converting every individual into his/her own jailer.
Abrahamics had something analogous with the concept of "primordial sin" – alluding to mankind’s “free-will,” and the ability to choose. Associating "free-will" with shame and guilt, was a way of infecting minds with a self-regulating idea/ideal.
A memetic virus that hijacked mind/body, morphing the individual into a proverbial zombie – mass individuation (divide and conquer) governed by a uniform focus on need/desire, which could then be regulated and manipulated externally.

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