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Social ineptness finds power to influence through ideology.
The same methods of pretence and duplicity apply in mental intercourse as they do in physical intercourse.
A period of negotiating terms, called flirting, precedes the acceptance of distinct roles, as submissive and dominating. During this preliminary stage a lot of hypocrisy is used to accentuate personal advantages and diminish personal disadvantages.

Once the hierarchy is established the mind-fucking begins.
This is why many prefer dead thinkers. It is less demeaning, especially to males.

The arena where all this takes place shifts from one dominated by the physical to one dominated by the mental - psychology is where all this synthesizes, mind/body.

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The fixation or emphasis on quantity is the weak minded tactic to simulate quality. Strength in numbers is the reversion of this method. To have more knowledge, more pragmatic savvy, more factual data, more evidence, is the method of seperation, establishing thier own superiority.

That which lacks, must either cultivate what is absent, or artificially create it through a proxy. This proxy is quantity. By having more, there is the hope that quality will be touched upon by chance, as in a way to reduce the odds down to a favorable state. It is when that trickle of quality finds its way in, as warm air against biting cold, does it fill up thier void entirely to then coalesce thier identity.
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Disillusionment is a characteristic of weak minds; it is simply a cognitive corollary of disappointment, which they justify as a cleverness of mind to have seen things as they really are; when in fact they were taken in by their naivete or idiocy from the beginning, attempting to turn it into a strength. They will become enchanted by this new form of awareness as the ‘true form’, nurturing it into another idealism, until the process repeats, keeping them in tune with their nature.
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My own term for "spiteful mutants" is "desperate degenerates".
"Pro social" indicates 'morality'. The foundation of the moral instincts is to harmonize with group dynamics.

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As with everything, nihilism inverts reality, through ideology. Modern Superheroes/Supervillains are presented as romantic figures, hyper-fit products of mutations when, in fact, sheltering unfit mutations, and their accumulation, produce hypo-fitness – described by Dutton as “spiteful mutants”. Natural selection has been replaced by social selection, and the definition of ‘fitness’ has been idealized, and converted from a gene/meme synthesis to a meme/gene social ideal.

He - Dutton- approaches the same phenomenon from a genetic context, whereas I describe it as desperation producing degeneracy, approaching it from a psychological, mental, direction.
Modern human systems promote unfit genes, which are then protected from culling. "Spitefulness" towards 'breeder's, or those that include the body in their self-identification, follows as a consequence of this accumulated un-fitness.
My own approach begins with the loss of identity, producing desperation which seeks relief in consumerism - hedonism, materialism - and finding identity in an ideology.

The U.S. is an anti-ethnos nationality, spreading its state as a world-altering utopian salvation. It centres its identity around the idea of 'freedom', i.e., liberty from past, detachment from the tangible, replaced by the consumption and accumulation of matter to substitute for this loss.
Everything is constantly replaced by new product, in an endless cycle focused in the undetermined future. The present is all there is when past has been 'erased' - forgotten - or convoluted, through miscegenation, to the point of being incomprehensible.
The individual chooses which identity suits him, in the present, superficially engaging in yearly events that lack a spiritual and a year-long utility.

Example:
Christmas has now become a 'holiday' - a momentary escape from the year-long routine. A time of re-engaging family, which are not present during the rest of the year; exchanging of gifts, offering an opportunity to share materialism and hedonism. It has no spiritual meaning.
It's an event, like the Super Bowl, or a Saint Patrick's Day parade.
All spirituality has been reduced to a materialistic, hedonistic, event, compensating for the loss of physical identity.

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Through farming plants and animals - husbandry - man has discovered that too much sheltering sickens a herd.
Domesticated animals and plants evade the consequences through man's selection and consumption of them.

Human sheltering - self-domestication and sheltering - was once 'corrected' through wars, killing off genetic excess;the sickly and the feeble.
Periodic famines and/or plagues, contributed.
But this has become too dangerous, in our Nuclear Age, and human advancements in medicine have reduced the effects of the latter.

What we are now experiencing is the propagation of unfit genes, over time periods never before experienced.
Edward Dutton calls this excess of un-culled mutations "Spiteful Mutants", and I call them "Desperate Degenerates", because their psychosomatic state is expressed through sexual dysfunctions and physical/mental behavioural degeneracy, exposing nature's own way of preventing their propagation - nature self-balancing when an agency, such as man, has intervened to create localized imbalances.
Physical/Mental disease is another example of how nature self-regulates, correcting localized imbalances that have been produced due to whatever factor.
The increase in dysphoria - mental illness - sexual fetishism, and dysfunction, social ineptness, and so on, are all by-products of decades of sheltering - no war to exterminate feebleness of mind and body, returning the system to its previous state.
A psychosomatic social imbalance, reflecting the imbalance man has produced with his interventions upon natural processes.
A state of psychosomatic chaos, antagonizing an external state of man-made order, founded on the presumption of absolute order, i.e., ideology.
Apollonian madness, to use another narrative, exacerbates Dionysian excess - every action producing an equal and opposite reaction.
Man's artificially created and sustained localized pockets of order - equality, justice, rights - are being stressed by nature's chaos/order fluidity; temporally increasing chaos; time-arrow - movement/momentum towards chaos and away from near-absolute order - simply implies that this pressure is continuously being multiplied over cosmological time.
Technology is used as an ordering counter-action, but it cannot keep-up nor deal with the multiplying side-effects of human interventions.

This current 'identity crisis' and the seeming suicidal attitudes of western peoples - expressed politically - may hint at another natural self-correcting mechanism.
The agency that is responsible for this imbalance is being exterminated first.

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" Don't tell/listen your parents, they are toxic. Only trust your doctor, yolo. "
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Degeneracy has a distinct smell to it. Just like any form of inferiority. Because it has no strength of stability, it can't help but reveal what it is, it can't hold back, it keeps on giving. It is gregarious, open, vociferous.

But there is another side. It is capable of hiding, being silent, and even critical thinking ability. Because even forms of weakness may still have vestiges of strength; like underdeveloped physical appendages with mutated advantages that have adapted to survive in other ways; compensating for the major defects. But as it does, it still cannot correct those defects, they lag behind, and the inferiorities win out in the end, they get the better of the situation. If anything, those advantageous skill sets only heighten the veracity of the weaknesses to announce themselves even more, as they are the dominant traits.

So the smell permeates, it lingers, faintly, but still as obvious as it could ever be.
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Degeneracy is the encasement of the spirit within itself, or its immediate self-interests - immersion in the space/time dimensions of the present, constantly shrinking around it - like a sarcophagus.
A spirit that is un-invested in the future or has lost all hope in regards to its promise.
Materialism and hedonism is self-medication. It cocoons itself in artificiality - goods and services - or it seeks to escapes through ephemeral, repeating, self-gratification - matter and the pattern offering order which it cannot find in itself or cannot find in the world which is increasingly becoming chaotic.

With no past to draw sustenance from - pride or guidance - and a future that is both uncertain and promising a regression, the spirit shrivels and hides in its subjectivity where it convinces itself, the world cannot enter - defensive and cynical, it replaces the romantic idealism of oneness with the flexibility of the nil.

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Degeneracy is the encasement of the spirit within itself, or its immediate self-interests - immersion in the space/time dimensions of the present, constantly shrinking around it - like a sarcophagus.

I’ve written before, that most people spend their lives in self-destruction by doing nothing but being distracted. The atomized lifestyles of modern individualism, leads to the pursuits of trivial goals which fragment the self into unidentifiable parts. These parts of the self which are lost, are absorbed into the materialism of the system of control.

Familial and genetic ties have already been severed by modernity. What is being ‘divided and conquered’ now, is one’s own identity. This creates the existential angst prevalent in modern people, the feelings of emptiness reach out for quick and vulgar sources of fulfillment. Moreover, it is about enslaving one to the survivalism of their own nature. Hijacking the impulse to survive, and the need for self-preservation, and making it the sole purpose through artificial mediums of work and play; Huxley’s ‘soma’ induced world; a world of reciprocation. The inherent human barbarity which used to be directed to something external, has been reversed and is now an internal strife, destroying whatever remains of the spirit.
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This is the reason why moderns are in love with the Joker and these character types. To have worth and power in a mindless collectivized culture, they must become a centralized point of amassing attention to themselves. They find in these grandiose nihilistic character symbols a form of ‘superior sociability’ which draws others into their world and their psychology. It is about the feminine need to belong to the tribe, and find its place in it and consolidate as much validation from the tribe members to the point where they become respected and adored for no other reason then by the effect of group agreeableness. Success in the group, in others, is where they long to flourish. These characters are the “larger than life” types, who are supernaturally ‘social’, exuding their appearance of power in the art of attention and gregariousness. Why do simple-minds “like" these types of figures? Not only because they demand to be liked, but devote themselves to adapting their personalities to whatever and whomever they need to; the art of seduction, of being chameleon, of changing yourself whenever you need to, to fit the changing circumstances and environments and become what they require you to become.
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>>>Sheltering is what propagates unfit mutations.
"Spiteful mutants" he calls what I call "desperate Degenerates".

>>>Religiosity was supposed to deal with emerging self-consciousness and the average mind's need for an existential relief, and the carrot/stick, to keep the average disciplined in a multi-cultural, multi-racial, society.
Religion refers to the Abrahamic triad, and should not be confused with spirituality. These three have irrefutable scriptures, presumably the creation of a absolute authority - a one-god.
Hinduism, for example, cannot be called a religion, but it is a spiritual outlook.
It was presumed that replacing the anthropomorphic absoluteness of Abrahamism with secular alternatives, would produce similar results among the masses. Therefore, an animosity between Communism and Abrahamism develops, as the secular form attempted to usurp the already established religious forms of spiritual nihilism.
But man, particularly the average man, is not psychologically satisfies by abstractions. He needs something more initiate, like the physical, even when it is used to negate itself. He needs something to relate to.  
Replacing the one-god, absolute, with a secular abstraction of simply the ideal of 'one', may maintain the same fundamental principles that made the idea of a one-god appealing, but only for a few more cerebral or more prone toward the abstract thinking side of the psychological spectrum.It remains relatively ungratifying for the rest, such as the more feminine psychologies.

>>>Paedophilia will be 'normalized' next....and then bestiality.
the idea of ageism and spciecism, will gradually develop over decades of pop-cultural subtle messaging, preparing the masses for this next step in 'enlightenment' and 'progress'.  
I predict that it will not get that far because the system will collapse when these "innovations" begin to gain legitimacy.
The idea of family will be entirely destroyed, and without family there is no society - unless technologies take over. But if they do then we are in a post-biology, post-human, world - The Last Man would be the one who invents the perfect AI Cyborg.

>>>Ha!! He mentions the "feminization of men", only he then makes the error of assuming that women are being 'masculinized' which I've explained as a reaction to declining masculinity - a pretence that attempts to replace masculinity, unsuccessfully, because pretences relaying only on image, do not suffice.
Women put on the appearances of male strength and independence and 'thinking outside the box' but they cannot actually be that.
Even Lesbians fail to perform on male levels in all disciplines requiring mind/body. They cut their hair and wear male clothing, and may even imitate the walk, but their mind is biologically female.

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A Clip of bonobos practicing thier heiarchy rituals.

Although in that case, the stimulation of the genital region does not reduce their aggression levels, nor increase thier intelligence levels to neutralize conflict or disorderly conduct. They are offending thier brethren.
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This is when a mind constructs its own ‘theory’ of omniscience through absolute denial of truth and reality, through willful superior ignorance. The Socratic legacy of “unknowing” acted as the motivation to know; not knowledge of the world, but of the constancy of oneself within it, self-knowledge, the greatest force to stave off nihilism. The problem with Socrates was his weakening of this method into pretentious “humbleness”, a slavishness of mind. But one who has given not only his mind, but his spirit over to the myopia of academia, would not grasp this concept of knowthyself; and so, we have the corruption of it into rational absurdity and mockery, as this rat displays.

Philosophy is a way to control flux through consciousness, not solve it, as these morons believe. Philosophy offers no absolute answers, solutions or ideological respites, which is what moderns want, and this is why it is ridiculed. These inferior minds want ends to their sufferings, not challenges to overcome them. Securing oneself to principles, is nothing more than an adaptive trait of consciousness and to keep oneself out of existential angst. Nobility, can be considered the challenge to make them superior, to set them apart from unconsciousness, from the primitive, into a higher purpose, not on behalf of divine vagaries, but of a mode of strength to overcome one’s weaknesses as far as possible, to achieve goals that go beyond mere survival. The reversal/inversion of this is the sanctification of weaknesses to eliminate strengths, so no more challenges need to be overcome, it can all be codified and packaged into a solvable formula of unknowing, of denial; nihilism.

This is the modern mind imploding upon itself, fearing its own nature, hating its own accountability, and denying its own existence, and having fun in the process, as degenerates do.
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The trouble with chaos in nature is that it is also the emergence of order, allowing the possibility of human error to accidentally correspond with truth. In the modern mind, this randomness, which at times finds its place in a microcosm of order, will convince them of the truth of some delusion they have been nurturing based on the hope of it landing on a degree of accuracy which is unrelated.

This is what degenerate minds rely upon, dumb luck. Like gambling addicts. Playing down the odds with persistence and determination until some small victory finally lands in thier hands, that they can spin into a glorified triumph, when it was only a menial succor to thier sickness; being noticed by no one.

We are now in a world of intellectual gamblers. All vying for a chance to appear worthwhile and superior. Squabbling over a place at the table and a throw of the dice. But the house always wins. The house being stupidity.
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I once shared this guy's tweet because he was making posts against feminism, but I have no idea what this guy stands for. He opposes "nazism", "communism" and "white supremacy", so is he a (moderate) right-wing Christian? I dislike this type of hypocrites more than real "communists", at least they have picked their side while this guy is afraid to take any side that's been demonized by the media. His so desperate to be the "good guy".
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Modernity contaminates. There are variants of it in nearly everyone these days. Take everything with a grain of truth. Extract what is useful, but see through thier versimilitude.
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I once shared this guy's tweet because he was making posts against feminism, but I have no idea what this guy stands for. He opposes "nazism", "communism" and "white supremacy", so is he a (moderate) right-wing Christian? I dislike this type of hypocrites more than real "communists", at least they have picked their side while this guy is afraid to take any side that's been demonized by the media. His so desperate to be the "good guy".

These tweets are giving power to the ADL.
If I were to read this without having any idea about the background of the participants I would think that the ADL is an organisation of importance and an arbiter of morality.
They give more power to them than any simple conscious shill attempt ever would. "Cuckservatives" are a very good for liberal moral hegemony, much better than an actual full blown modern liberal.

Peter Sweden could have defended himself in different ways as well, this response shows how he is thinking. He is a modern liberal. At a family gathering of modern liberals he would be a black sheep but he would still be one of them, a modern liberal (black) sheep.
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I almost forgot about cuckservatives and liberals, since I haven't been on social media in a long time...I have to remind myself that a lot people actually think like this, their minds do not progress. they actually get forward in life thinking like that. I will have to spend more time around the lowest-common-denominators to get in touch.
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The Desperate Degenerate believes that philosophy has to be softened-up - feminized – made more accommodating for his feeble spirit. A confusion ensues between innocence and ignorance, so as to produce a tautology that can easily be dealt with by using obscurantism to imitate complexity and profound insight, while the same messages of comfort and salvation are repeated, under the cover of pretentious rhetoric, pretending to be saying something only the few, chosen, can glean, when the same feminine nonsense is repeated, in repackaged audacity, selling ice to the Eskimo and a heating to the desert dwelling Blasians.
The most complex existential concepts can be made comprehensible to an idiot, just as a blind man can perceive the top of an iceberg, no matter how deep it sinks into the abyss. But it's not the hardness, it’s the coldness they cannot tolerate. The hard softens and melts under the pressure of their touch, but the cold; the cold is a product of something beyond touch – like the coldness of space.
No fingertips can warm it out of existence. But they try. Declaring heat & cold a matter of perspective, as if such insights can make the one go away, allowing the other to remain – when it is the one they want which depends on their contributions and the other, the one they fear, is what remains, whether they like it or not; whether they touch it or not.
What is philosophy but the ascent on the mountain tops, as many, other than I, have claimed. Up, into the cold, inhospitable heights where there is no heat other than the one you bring with you. Declaring it away, will not save you from its bite, and the higher you climb the more you abandon all hope for an escape... other than down. Endurance is what is required, and a kind of madness. Who would climb to such a place when the foothills, the ocean sides remain accessible – and the ocean depths require more than gumption to enter.
The ocean is where the lost set sail to find their iceberg protruding from its depths, waiting to be claimed before it melts into the liquid expanse. They feel its secrets in its solid frozen surfaces that begins to give way the moment they come in contact with it, making them feel powerful and worthy of its dark vacuum.
The abyss pushes you up, back to the superficial, before you get too deep – your own mass being a life-preserving hindrance – whereas the mountain pulls you down with nothing to hold onto but space – your mass acting as the dispatcher of your own fate.
Such a “man” would preserve his innocence by naming his own mass an agency of an external will – and he the victim of divine providence. In his dying moments, feeling secure that he fell prey to something no other man would survive – a force so superior that no living being could manage to escape its force. This is a thought many a manimal has taken with him to the great, cold abyss.
A final stunt before gravity, hits them hard, and unyielding and the cold envelops them one final time.

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This is an example of the indiscriminate propensity truth has as a natural force of exploitation. Nature is truth, nature is rooted in exploitation of living beings, therefore truth can come from any person capable of delivering it competently, regardless of other personal inadequacies or, in this case, degeneracies. It was why the French Libertines could make of sexual deviancy a philosophical elitism. This ‘inherently accessible’ force that truth is, as it exists in nature, is what subjects it to the flagrant mockery or debased corruptions of it we see in history and today. It is what allows degenerates or morons to feel superior.

A force of nature which exploits their own degeneracy or stupidity for the purpose of validating a force of strength or nobility is the irony of ironies. One who, instead of remaining as a degenerate, chooses, instead to harness its exploitative power for his own along with the ability to do it, are what are referred to as noble spirits, and what separates the ones of quality from the filth.

There are degrees of truth, some weaker than others, some stronger than others, the degenerates choose to remain in the lower degrees, the bottom end, the noble ones choose the higher. It’s that simple.
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There are degrees of truth, some weaker than others, some stronger than others, the degenerates choose to remain in the lower degrees, the bottom end, the noble ones choose the higher. It’s that simple.

Truth in Action vs Truth in Seduction.

Alexander should have grabbed Diogenes and forced his eyes open to stare at the Sun he desired so much, he could temper the acts of the empires he conquered but he lacked the will to temper the seductive charm of the dog.
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Alexander should have grabbed Diogenes and forced his eyes open to stare at the Sun he desired so much, he could temper the acts of the empires he conquered but he lacked the will to temper the seductive charm of the dog.

Heh. Exactly.

Even the degenerate spirit will only go so far; his own aristocratic embrace of a 'willingness' to endure what the "common man" cannot is itself a pretension. His USE of philosophy to justify his lifestyle points to his hypocritical 'unwillingness' to take it beyond the abstract and into action; preferring only the theory, even if he does venture a little ways.

What this ilk cannot grasp is that spiritual elitism is actually about honoring ones limitations/weaknesses, for the sake of surpassing them for strength. To make of ones animal nature a principled constitution is to remain in the psychological state of infancy.
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If a man shoved a lamp in my face and said he was "looking for an honest man", I would be ready to kill him. That would be a dishonor to everyone that trusted me. But considering the other tales; with him judging the person before doing something rash (i.e. standing next to the arrow target only with a poor aiming archer), he'd likely size up whether it's dangerous or not.

The fact Alexander came to him, meant that he was showing dependence. That is why he could be dismissive.
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Technological materialism, will become synonymous with identity; transhumanism. Future generations will be unable to think, function, decide or act without comparing it to their devices. It will be their personalities, their minds. Cyborgs.
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This is the nature of 'justice', of 'fatalism'...of 'equality'.
A pile of horse shit desperate souls regurgitate and swallow....hoping some of it may stick in the inner lining of their pathetic intestines.

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Extreme case of desperate degeneracy accentuates the psychology of a type that is multiplying with mathematical consistency - a.k.a "spiteful mutants".

By-product of human meddling into natural processes.

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