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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:32 am

The fabrication of a self-referential, esoteric ideology is easier because it is not bound by any exoteric limitations nor is it testable in relation to what is not within the willful control of the mind that fabricates it.
The ideal must only be attractive to other minds, with specific needs/desires.

Such an idea can be primal, hedonistic, using the sensation of pleasure as validation, can be simplistic seeking validation from simplistic minds, or it can be more complex, seeking a higher quality of mind, with more sophisticated needs, desires.
In the last case the idea must be detached from reality but self-referential in a consistent way - taking for granted some ambiguous absolutes, it has to fabricate a seductive and self-consistent detachment from reality - one that can rival existence itself, in challenge, and promise, while still denying the external world to contradict its principles.
Such an nihilism would be accompanied with specialized symbols and language, entirely in-harmony with itself, but in disharmony with the world outside the brain...often this would include the body.

This is what I call a pure noetic construct.

It has no references outside the brain, in fact it considers them base and unnecessary, and is entirely self-consistent and self-referential, raising this method as a empowerment, or a god-like sovereignty as creator of worlds.
The most important factor is the quantity and quality of minds you can attract, and make a part of this alternate reality.
Proselytizing is fundamental....and selective proselytizing ensures that your world is exclusive - elitist.
Realism, and Paganism places the standard of evaluating self, and others, outside self.
Self, and others, are judges by this same standard, which is natural in that you can judge other species outside any memetic corrupting effects.
An example is how realism defines 'fitness' - reproductive success.
I define all my terms using this method.

For instance, morality is defined using observable, testable behaviors that span species boundaries, and i define beauty similarly, holding myself, and others, accountable to a standards not of my making, but as belonging outside my own personal needs, desires - spanning both memetic and species boundaries.

The proper usage of language is about clarifying shared experienced phenomena.
Therefore, convincing others, or being popular, is insignificant, because the shared affects us all whether we accept it, or deny it, or not....whether we are aware of it or not.
All languages refer to such external natural order, and are not arbitrary in their development. they may become corrupted, or used inappropriately, but this is usually a sign of cultural decline, and of ulterior motives - motives other than connecting to the real, and clarity.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:50 am

There are plenty of options available to the ones who want to escape the observable, experienced real, because in the mind the laws of physics, natural order need not be applied...but the road towards clarity is difficult and limited in options.
The world dictates what is right and what is wrong, and linguistic conventions founded on the real, restrict how symbols/words can be applied.

Inventing a new word, may display a concept that has never been considered, but it cannot contradict what is experienced, nor appropriate the words already in use, to imply something that they do not.  

For example, Heidegger invented the term Dasein, as shorthand for thrown into the world, which expresses the experience of awakening to a world where self is part of the unknown...and it does not imply a clean slate, or blind chance, as some morons insist on doing, to satisfy their psychosis regarding their desire to escape the past, or to detach themselves from the immutable and the determined because this implies some devastating, to them, probabilities.

It's more challenging to make yourself attractive, than to declare yourself attractive, changing the definitions to satisfy your needs/desires, and then justify the change as being 'higher understanding' or occult knowledge only the special can fully appreciate, hoping to attract all the uglies that are hoping for a excuse and a way out of their predicament of being born unattractive.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:07 pm



The mind of the psychotic, finding in this degenerate display of slave-morality a sense of pride.
Spartacus, is, for the slaves, the Messiah - the collective identity.
The psychotic can only believe agreement can be a product of coercion, or a product of collective insanity, a shared faith, creating a shared sense of self.

The idea of a shared reality, an objective world, producing shared judgments, cannot be computed.
It can only be a result of exploitation, plagiarism, or seduction.
How can two minds agree, and reach its agreement from independent directions?
How can different paths lead to the same destination?

The destination must be pleasing, otherwise why would anyone want to go there?
Why would more than one, do so?

The modern is baffled.
It cannot comprehend, so it must use itself as a standard, and so conclude that there must be some self-serving, hedonistic, self-flattering reason?
Who would place the standard outside himself, unless he thought he met it?
Who would put himself through such a test?

Not the modern, that's for sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:39 pm

"I", refers to the subjective.
"Self" is the objectification of this "I", connecting it to a continuum vanishing into the immutable past.
"Ego", would be a qualification of "Self" - as the dynamic "I" becoming aware of itself - the tip of the Self" that turns inward.

An animal has a sense of "I", but no ego.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:24 pm

The organic emotion of love is the equivalent of the inorganic force of attraction, which signifies a relative harmony between two phenomena.
It's opposite would be hatred, corresponding to the force of repulsion, which is always present in the relationship between phenomena, no matter how in-harmony they might be.

But the concept of love, in those terms, has a curious advantage, over hatred, because it allows the possibility of a living death. An idea embodied in losing yourself in otherness, or immersing the distention of self, into a greater unity, of a collective that can be given any name, but that has as its most popular designation the name of a one-god.
It is this idea of being alive, in other, while dead as self, that reminds us of the zombie metaphor.
A condition that synthesizes the drive for life (eros), and the drive for death (thanatos), but inevitably becomes, for the majority, characterized by the former and not the latter.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:10 pm

Nihilistic inversion, from Pagan traditions, to Abrahamic ones, is best represented by the flip from paternal to maternal lines of identification.
Christianity breaks the bonds of the patrilineal continuum, placing an idea(l) in the form of an absolute abstraction of fatherhood in between the child and his biological father, converting him into a representative of the ‘true’, spiritual father, God. His new role is that of corporeal lesser father.
This break is not only reflected in the Abrahamic Biblical tale of sacrificing one’s one and only begotten son, but in the tale of the tale of Jesus taking the apostles away from their families, to become followers of an idealized family, with an idealized father.
Judaism applies a direct breach from masculinity, not only in the ritual of circumcision, but in the bloodline being passed through the mother – matrilineal.
This is a psychological break, affecting the child on a deeper level.
Jewish, and Islamic, as well as traditional Christian enforcement of strict rules upon the female’s sexual behaviour, indicates a preservation of her spiritual cleanliness, and worthiness for God’s harem.
The male ‘soils’ her, once he is approved, or has proven himself clean enough by the peer group’s authority.
Biological masculinity is really a proxy for the one and only true maleness, which is the Divine penis, and in these Nihilistic spiritual traditions, males act on behalf of this divine penis.
The tale of Christ’s mother’s impregnation, and the cuckolding of Joseph by the Holy penis. Joseph’s behaviour is the expected behaviour of an emasculated man.
He becomes a worshiper of the penis that intruded upon his own potential fertilization of her ovum, and then participated in hiding the secret, and raising the offspring as his own.
The message is clearly directed to all pious men who wish to gain the good graces of their alpha. They are to be God’s soldiers, protecting the harem from intrusion and from escape.
Mental eunuchs, who are given the privilege of keeping their own penis, in the service of a Masculine spirit that has none of his own.
The offspring does not really belong to the biological male, but to the one and only male. The mentally castrated, symbolically, is to raise his children according to the beliefs and principals of this one and only Male.
He, the castrated male, is not the conduit to the child’s ancestry, but a figurehead representing God that has no ancestry. He is the beginning and the end – alpha and omega.
Biological males surrendering themselves sot this concept are neither alphas nor omegas, but surrogate females.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:00 pm

Jung on his assessment of Freud and his differences.
Jung, Carl wrote:
Since each individual conforms more or less to a type, his testimony can be accepted as a fairly valid description of a large number of people. And since those who conform to other types belong none the less to the human species, we may conclude that the description applies less fully, to them too. What Freud has to say about sexuality, infantile pleasure, and their conflict with the ‘principle of reality,’ as well as what he says about incest and the like, can be taken as the truest expressions of his own psychic make-up. He has given adequate form to what he has noted in himself. I am no opponent of Freud’s; I am merely presented in that light by his own short-sightedness and that of his pupils.  [Modern Man in Search of a Soul]

Feud's Jewishness seeps into his psychological theories.
Incest, an obsession with being the mother's lover, exposes a Matrilineal focus that sees the father as someone that humbles and stands in the way.
A presence that denies the boy, in the case Freud, access to mother's portal back to be reborn as someone else.
The father proves to be lacking the majesty of the divine Father, making the young boy dream of a better figure to grow up emulating, or he lords over the young mind, proving to be too much to overcome, and to attain the prize.
The castrated boy wants to be reborn whole.

Jung, Carl wrote:
As for Freud’s idea of the ‘super ego,’ it is a furtive attempt to smuggle in his time-honoured image of Jehovah in the dress of psychological theory.  [Modern Man in Search of a Soul]
Psychosis shaped over centuries of shared history, producing shared traditions, and common reactions to existence.

Jung, Carl wrote:
I do not doubt that the natural instincts or drives are forces of propulsion in human life, whether we call them sexuality or will to power; but I also do not doubt that these instincts come into collision with the spirit, for they are continually colliding with something, and why should not this something be called spirit? I am far from knowing what spirit is in itself, and equally far from knowing what instincts are. The one is as mysterious to me as the other, yet I am unable to dismiss the one by explaining it in terms of the other. That would be to treat it as a mere misunderstanding....
A further difference seems to me to consist in this, that I try to free myself from all unconscious and therefore, uncriticised assumptions as to the world in general. I say ‘I try’, for who can be sure that he has freed himself from all his unconscious assumptions?  [Modern Man in Search of a Soul]
Jews bury their theories in the hidden occult of the esoteric where they cannot be disproved, therefore saving themselves the trouble of having to prove.
They rely on using themselves as a standard for manipulating those who closest resemble them, and to make all resemble them, so as to broaden their power base.  
They are salesmen, pitching a product to 'suckers', driving a wedge between fools and their money, or whatever it is that they covet.  
Jung exposes his own weakness with his intentional desire to remain ignorant about what instinct and spirit means - exposing a Christian disposition to merge the animal within the divine, by sacrificing it.
Presuming his own exposure he explains it as an unwillingness to resolve the issue as a matter of "misunderstanding", let alone a misinterpretation of words.
Freud exposed himself in his theory on sexuality, Nietzsche in his 'Will to Power'.
Choosing symbols/words exposes your relationship to world, to existence. It shows where the wound lies, revealing itself indirectly.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:22 pm

An individual is a collective unity, held together by memory, linking it to a past it is ignorant of.
Every cell, participating in every organ, is an independent organism, evolved to become assimilated in a codependent unity.
The mind awakens to this symbiosis, as if it were discovering an alien otherness.
The division of mind from body or consciousness from self-consciousness is this awakening, Heidegger calling it Dasein, as becoming aware of this multiplicity of self, within a multiplicity of otherness – existence.
Every cells communicates with the central processor, called brain, through the nervous system, as a collective of similar cells, participating in an organ, with specific functions, freeing other cells to specialize in other functions – synergy.
Belonging to a collective does not liberate it from the world, because it is also interacting with existence, while participating in an organism that is also interacting with existence.
Cells have no nervous systems, and no brains, so they cannot communicate with the brain using imagery, words, symbols, but only send neural pulses, bio-energy, with specific rhythms to transmit data.
The brain interests this data, in combination with data streaming into it from the outside the organism – world.
Both the internal and the external data merge into unities we call sensations.
Cells carry no symbols/words, images, so it adopts those coming from external sources.
Dreams are mostly internal data dominating the mind when it is closed off from external sources.
It borrows imagery to represents internal issues, such as disease, stress, repression, trauma, in combination with the organism's daily routines, harvesting imagery, data, relating and being challenged by external phenomena.
Dreams are always metaphorical, insinuating, never clear, direct, obvious, because internal sources lack reasoning, and simply adopt the individual's immediate experiences to reveal internal issues.
Cells also carry centuries of memories in the form of DNA.
Jung called these the collective unconscious, and they also express themselves indirectly, by borrowing imagery, symbols/words, or by merging into combinations of data – abstractions.
The artist taps into this data, bringing it into clarity.
He externalizes the abstraction by converting it to imagery, symbols, others can relate to, because these memories also exist in them, as part of a shared genetic past, using a shared pool of symbols, and traditions, imagery, metaphors, memetic past – species.
Genetic memories carry the entire gamut of past experiences, remaining latent, until triggered, or being too subtle communicating with the brain in what is called intuition.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:23 pm

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Reputation of the insightful one goes through three stages.
First, they ridicule him.
Second, he is assaulted personally.
Third, they claim to have been aware of the insights all-along.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:30 pm

Nihilism's self-referential nature, and its dependence on others to validate what they cannot, forces them to become passionately combative.  
In the absence of a realist to challenge their delusions, because a realist requires no validation from other minds, his ideas are either more or less validated, are more or less correct in relation to an indifferent to all interpretations world, and by application, these nihilists turn on each other.
Then it becomes a competition over who is more mad, and whose madness is most inspiring and popular among minds like their own.
It becomes a fight over how many crazies and how much insanity they can gather.

I believe this mirrors  fish schooling, birds flocking, animals herding.
Immersing one's self in uniformity of individuals that have made some degree of self-sacrificing to survival.
Insanity feels safe within an asylum - institutionalization. It disappears among those that display varying forms of irrational behaviours. Philosophically, the absurd becomes less so when compared to an extreme level of absurdity - then it seems more rational.
Modern systems are a kind of organized madness.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:29 pm

The power of symbols/words remains psychological.
They represent a transmission of data from inside one skull, one subjective interpretation of an objective reality, across a medium, space/time, and into another skull, with its own subjective interpretations of reality, or a mind void of such interpretations.
The transmission can create a mass agency of minds in general agreement, converting this interpretation to action, behaviour.
But this still does not mean the particular interpretation has anything to do with reality, something those sharing in a false, or weak, interpretation will soon discover.

The accuracy of an interpretation of reality, is not by how many other minds you can convince, or animate using its principles. It is by the costs/benefits, in relation to the projected objective, expectations.
These can be spin-doctored or denied, or blamed on some other entity,. but they cannot be rejected.
Benefits, but more so costs, need no acknowledgement by the mind that enjoys or suffers them.
They are the consequences of an applied theory.
The individual suffers them whether it likes it or not, whether it knows it or not.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 am

As with all things human, symbols/words can be used to differentiate, which is another way of saying to clarify, or they can be used to assimilate, which is another way of saying to make obscure, to mystify.
Sometimes we use different words for the same concept, for the same phenomenon, or where the difference is but a nuanced subtlety, adding degree, a detail, making it more clear in this way.

The word 'need' for example, as I use it, in connection to a sensation, in reaction to world, indicates a relationship of subjective, interpreting mind/consciousness with objective world.
The word refers to the feeling of depletion, due to the attrition produced by (inter)activity, which is another way of saying existence.
Organism awakening to existence feels need, due to its dependence on order.
Organism is order-ing, and need is the product of this - it is the feeling of existing.
Need is another way of saying 'stress'.
Brain, as part of the nervous system, evolved to deal with stress.
To direct, hold in the ready, control nervous energies.
Need is the depletion of nervous energies, exposing a physical necessity not being satisfied.
it warns the organism that something must be taken care of.

This is the natural consequence of being "thrown into the world", and because 'world' means existence, and existence means (inter)activity, need is the awakening to existing.
Needs left unsatisfied for a period of time, dependent on the particular constitution, its metabolic rates, of the organisms, result in what we refer as 'suffering' or 'pain'.
These words refer to extreme need, or needs reaching a critical point, indicating a severe depletion of energies, or attrition threatening the unity, the organism, such as a wound, illness, draining the organism of energies, or so severe that they exceed the energies readily available to the organism.

But need, ironically, produces a second type of stress.
Stress of abundance of energies.
To differentiate the two I use the term 'desire' to represent these.
Need, due to constant attrition, depletion of energies, or due to a threat on the unity of the organism produces movement, action directed, by the will, towards sources of satiation.
If this movement is successful, the organism assimilates and stores excess energies,in the form of 'fat' in the physical body, or as standby nervous energy for the fight/flight mechanism.
These later produce mitosis - cellular division.
In single-cell organisms we call this reproduction, but in multi-cellular organisms we call this growth.
growth occurs when the organism has excess, to its needs, energies that can be automatically be dedicated towards increasing its hold on time/space - increasing its physical dimensions...or into moving within time/space, expanding its range within world.
In more complex organisms these excess energies are also stored for multi-cellular, heterosexual, reproductive purposes - we call these libidinal.
In females it takes the form of an ovum, and the uterus lining placed as nutrition for a possible fetus, resulting in menstrual cycles.
In males it takes the form of sperm, stored in the scrotum, which results in desire, a stress produced by holding in ready all this nervous energy.

Now need, product of lack, produces need, or desire, product of excess.

One is directly linked, is the byproduct of the other - one is driven to consume, to appropriate, to assimilate, and the other, with the excessive energies the first produces, is driven to expunge, to expand, increase, to release.
One is implosive and the other explosive.

Need/Suffering, Desire are words referring to internal sensations, organic subjective reactions to an indifferent objective world in flux.
Flux = (inter)activity.
Need/Suffering is not a universal truism, to be used to define cosmos as a whole.
The world neither lacks not needs, nor has excess anything.
What would it have excess in relation to?
Non-existence?
Some referring to the constant (inter)activity, in other words energies, call it overflowing.
But this implies a containment, and a state of non-interactivity, in other words of non-existence.
Non-Existence is its own definition - it refers to what is not existent.
Existence IS (inter)activity...it is not that which is (inter)active, implying a separate thing that can either be (inter)active or static.
In relation to an organism, with limited energies to keep its unity of patterns intact, the comic constant (inter)activity may seem as excessive, as superfluous...and because it can only conceptualize in absolutes, it imagines cosmos as a contained whole, with ambiguous outer boundaries one can exceed.
Furthermore, cosmic constant expansion of time/space is related to by the organism as a form of growth. It can only understand it using itself as a standard and concludes that it is conscious, or that it is some god with infinite energies, constantly growing, overflowing with energies.
If it reaches that level o f intelligence, it conceptualizes universe in organic terms, because it can only comprehend the alien by using what is most intimate - the unknown can be made known by naming it, by conceptualizing it in terms that are known - using self, or what one knows of it, as a metaphor that is then taken literally.

The cosmos is neither perfect, nor imperfect.
It is neither one, nor nil.
Neither good, or bad.
These are representational artistic, metaphorical concepts that are taken literally, to describe what is other, by using what is self as a mirror.

World is Flux, it is process, it is constant (inter)activity.
These concepts are tools used to make sense of the world.
To make sense of it the brain uses its own processes as a standard - on/off neural switching, producing a binary code, and dualism - good/bad as the most primal form of discrimination, of consciousness...because consciousness is discrimination.
To be aware one makes clear, and to make clear one differentiates, holds forth; pulling closer the object of interest, leaving behind all the rest. 'Bringing into the light', is a metaphor meaning to hold in consciousness, to focus, and because an predator like homo sapient uses eyesight, the light becomes a metaphor for being aware, for making aware, for un-covering from beneath darkness.
Consciousness IS discrimination.
This is how the brain creates singularities, absolutes.
It discriminately separates the thing of interest from the rest, from what is not of immediate interest.
It focuses.
Higher consciousness means higher, more refined, more detailed, more nuanced, discrimination - it means seeing divergence where the less consciousness only see uniformity, sameness.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:59 am

Need indicates depletion of energies, which exposes dependence.
It is a weakening.
It is the sensation of energies being lost to the organic unity, due to constant (inter)activity.
Need is quintessentially the sensation of living.

Sexually this is felt, judged, as a weakness.
We say 'he is needy' to indicate severe dependence with no alternate sources of satisfaction.

Bad Boy Factor = a male with alternatives.
This is expressed as an indifference for the particular female.
Instinctively she perceives this as power, and finds it attractive.
Confidence produced by having more than one way of satisfying a need or gratifying a desire - higher independence.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:07 am

Non-Principled Principle
The modern degeneration of Communist opportunism; placing self, survival, above all else: dignity, beauty, the superior.
Resulting in the memetic equivalent of Culture of no Culture - Americanism.
All is levelled down to a uniformity of taste - lowest-common-denominator, for the sake of inclusion into the safety net.
All is for sale.
Pride, Dignity, Reality, Nature, Honesty, Honour, Decency.
Hedonism placed on a pedestal. The feeling of well-being, at all costs.
The feeling of surviving, of being alive at any price, at any cost.
Ideals and Principles malleable to shifting dynamics.
Feminine pragmatism: surrender to the most popular, to the strongest.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:22 pm

Moderns are so afraid of exposing themselves to reality that they cannot admit things, like the fact that need is a weakness.
Weakness does not mean something to be ashamed of.
Bravery is not the absence of fear.
The absence of fear is either due to a brain condition, sociopath, or it is the product of ignorance.

Courage is controlling your fears.
It is, actually, far more demanding and ennobling than absence of anxiety/fear.  

Weakness is the living condition, man awakens to.
He is ignorant, weak, and this motivates him.
What is shameful is surrendering to weakness, succumbing to ignorance.
Need is weakness....yes...and?
Need is dependence on something and/or someone...and?
Life is a movement towards an ideal.
If it is independence then you move towards it, step by step, not by denying it, and pretending you re already independent. This makes you more dependent.
Denying what you are, surrenders you to it.  

Need is weakness, so?
One must incrementally become less needy, more independent, more self-sufficient, more powerful.
A weakness motivates.
Being unfit forces you to exercise and become stronger, more fit.
Calling it a strength is how you demotivate yourself.  
Calling ugliness beauty is how one comfort one's self.
Saying that it is subjective feels good, but it isn't true.

Admitting your weaknesses, your imperfections is the first step towards correcting them, if you can, or coming to terms with them, if you cannot, and then developing compensating traits.
Pretending you have none settles you exactly where you are.
Declaring yourself this or that, is stagnation.
This is why the absolute is a existential end, no different from absolute nil.
The absolute is a finality, an END.
Redefining words to make yourself feel better, does not help you resolve the issue.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:13 pm

Nihilistic psychosis works on this premise:
If you can think of an idea(l), it is a possibility.

If it feels good thinking of the idea(l), then it is validated, it is empowering.
If you are passionately obsessed with the idea(l), then it is invigorating, a positive.

From the premises of a negative....since there is no absolute gnosis, no omniscience, then if you cannot disprove an idea(l), it is just as possible as any other.
It begins with EVERYTHING is possible...and you must disprove it to discount it from the list of possibilities.
Classic TOP<>DOWN "thinking".
Words have a magical power, the brain is god creator.
God is dead...so man is now God. He declares things into existence, and he declares things out of existence - first came the word, and the word was human, and the word was good.

The irony of the conundrum.
If you declare an absolute, the other must disprove it absolutely...ergo "There is absolute no absolute" begins with the moron's declaration of it, forcing an equal negation.
The moron declares an absolute, then to negate it one must negate it absolutely, resulting in the paradox that is based on the first presumption.
So, to negate the one, if it is taken literally and not as a representation, you must do so with nil.
Both 1/0 are representations, symbols with no external reference. they exist only in the mind as an abstraction that can be used to refer to anything, it's only restriction being the dictionary.
To negate ghosts to a believer in ghosts, is to first accept the reality of ghosts, and if you cannot disprove them absolutely, then they remain, in his mind, a possibility, as possible as any other theory.
Nihilists always have a holy, mystical text, a sacred book, to refer and defer to.
Nihilism being only noetic, ideology, existing only as symbols/words. There's always a sacred text, or a hidden universe, or some holy figure, a sacred icon...a corporeal manifestation of the idea(l).....but he or she is conveniently always dead, and buried, existing, in the minds of worshippers, as perfect idols.
Spiritual Nihilism is spirituality of the BOOK, by the Book, for the people of the Book - Abrahamism.
There's always some mystical text, some sacred religious Book(s), because nihilism is entirely linguistic - semantics, exploiting morons, and manipulating feeble-minded nit-wits.  

Realism requires no such Book, nor does Paganism, because it refers directly to world.
Books are written about the world, they are not a gateway to an alternate world.
Languages can all sue their own symbols/words because the reference point is the same.
Whether you call ti a 'dog' or 'chien', or 'skylo' is irrelevant, because all these symbols/words refer to a real phenomenon, a real organism.
That's its standard, its starting point, from where it moves upward and downward...towards the idea(l), and towards the spiritual, the metaphysical.

Realism does not give a shit if you do not believe in dogs, or you think they are more than what they appear to be, or if you think the apparent dog is really a hidden monster, one requires a special word, found in a special book, to fully understand; realism does not give a shit if the idea of a dog is popular or if the majority believes is these creatures,. as they appear to be.
That's your problem.

Realism uses words to refer to world...and all exist within the world, whether they know it or not, whether they accept it or not.
How schizophrenics cope, or what they see or hear, is his problem. What a narcissist thinks or feels, is his problem. How any psychotic deals with world, or how he perceives it, is his problem.
But the problem is, psychotics can be exploited by the system...and this is how we have post-modernism....never-mind all those ideologies that exploited morons throughout the ages...Abrahamism (Judaism = Christianity, Islam), Marxism, Trasnhumanism...and on and on the list grows.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:37 pm

Why do realists care about what nihilists think?
Why do they even bother to confront them?
Because of Democracy.
These morons vote.
They determine the environment realists are forced to live in, alongside them.

If it were not for this fact, they would not give a flying fuck what some degenerate imbecile uses to cope with reality.

Democracy declines from demo-cracy to ochlo-cracy.
Quality is drowned out by quantities of sheltered morons with rights and equal privileges, demanding respect and consideration.
If they lived on their own, where their idiotic ideologies only affected them Realists, true Pagans would not give a shit what they say and do.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:49 am

Inversion of Metaphors
When artificiality replaces natural order, Utopian idealism converts to Dystopia, and myth ceases to transport {μεταφορά} the real to the ideal, but transports the ideal to the real, through the projections of mind.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:15 am

He who truly loves, also passionately hates those who make of his love a plaything.
He who is order, despises those who worship it forgetting its gradations and its nullification.
They make a mockery of the sacred, presenting it as a matter of self-assertion and self-referential self-flattery.

Order is difficult to attain and more so to maintain.
Those who are prone to chaos, declare it as belonging to them, whereas those who know order and its struggles, never forget about chaos.

Do we not accuse others of what we fear most in ourselves?
Metaphor.
Do we not transport our weaknesses to another, to unburden ourselves from their stress?
Does not the feeble mind, the coward pronounce the identity he wishes to be seen as, but secretly knows he can never be?

A sign so predictable in its appearance that all one must do is wait for the other to declare himself, passionately stating what he 'is' or 'ought' to be in the eyes of those who fail to see it.
Weakness is presented in the pretense of strength, because strength needs no pronouncements.
All recognize it when it appears.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:25 am

One obsesses over what one lacks the most, or what threatens him the most.
One admires what is superior to his own evaluations of himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:05 am

Prejudiced Perspectives
To the simpleton genius seems magical. To the genius a simpletons seems alien.
To the pessimist a realist seems naive. To the optimist the realist seems cynical.
To the ordered mind randomness seems evil. To the Chaotic mind order seems totalitarian.
To the one lacking order any mention of chaos is disheartening and hateful. To the one lacking chaos any mention of order is final and absolute.

To the naive dolt who only wants to see the silver lining, any mention of the dark cloud is terrifying and an attack.
To the crass nit-wit who only wants to see the dark cloud, any mention of a silver lining is absurd and a joke.

When among the naive optimists, the realist is like a fly in the milk: an alien element that spoils the perfection of the whole.
They live in absolute wholes - positive nihilists.
When among cynical pessimists, the realist is like a illuminating mirror in the dark: a disrespectful reminder of who they are.
They live in absolute fragmentation - pure nihilists.

Pagan realism stands in opposition to both – Hellenic balance.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:53 am

Feminine spirits trap themselves within social, human contexts.
Their thinking begins and ends in relation to human, all too human perceptions of self within humanity, which is their way of understanding world.
Which exposes nihilism as a form of feminine entrapment within manmade constructs.
Females love words, symbols, and gestures. It's how they find themselves and evaluate themselves.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:31 pm

Know what's funny about men-children stuck on Nietzsche?
Most of them are drug-addicts, idolizing a man who didn't even drink wine.
New Age hippies, with a new version of sex, drugs, and rock n roll, worshipping a recluse who barely had sexual encounters, and did not drink or use any chemical substance, though he was suffering terribly.
New versions of those secular Christians, disenfranchised by all authorities, and by a world void of absolutes, including the one-god, finding in one another, and in communal escapism a form of herd relief.
I guess you can twist an idol's words to mean anything after he's dead.

Of course, there are many romantic excuses to justify drug-use, as there are to explain wine drinking, but it all starts with what these men-children deny: an internal lack.
If the world is too much or too little, then drugs can make it less or more so... for a while.
If you are a dullard and prone to melancholy, or un-creative, then alcohol can make you feel more creative, as one feels they can drive better after a few drinks.
All forms of inebriation either accentuate what you are, or they diminish it.
They never surpass it, or escape it.  
Those visions, feelings, sensations, that hidden sorrow or joy... was always there, and it was never more or less than what it is.
Those other-worldly, super-natural realms you enter under the influence, are all your doing.
They mean nothing to anyone, other than to you.
They are useful, inspiring, enlightening, to nobody but you.
They are that part you keep hidden, or you wilfully repress, or feel insecure about.  
That secret fear, that blustering arrogance, that flattery nobody seems to shower down on you, it's all there.
If you are an angry drunk, then anger is what you keep hidden.
If you tend to cry when high, or after a few drinks, then a deep sorrow is inside of you.
If you are joyful and open, then you hide that, when sober.
If you feel grand and a genius deserving accolades when under the influence, then this is what you crave in your sobriety.
Oh and... Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:55 pm

When an idea has an effect, it sparks a cascade of connections the mind senses as an awakening – an internal power spontaneously rising up to the surface, as if from nowhere.
Things that did not quite make sense, suddenly do so.  Things that were unstable, vague, are suddenly clear.
They are now obvious.
The mind cannot believe how it could have missed the signs, the relationships.
If it has an ego it believes it happened due to its own internal work, unable to accept an external source, to be grateful to – to feel beneath.
For other, sickly minds, the connections trigger a recoiling, falling back, a need to escape, to flee, to hide from the source.
It rests awhile, catching its balance, sitting down to recover, and to rest a bit. Then it looks for a defence, either in self or in some prescription that has worked, and tries to return to face the source of its dismay.
But rarely directly, never out in the open; always from the shadows, from its secret crypt, from behind a mask, from within the peer group it feels most warm within.
It cannot deny, nor forget the impact of the first encounter.
The source is now embedded in its psyche, as a memory, a splinter in the mind's eye, an itch it cannot reach, though it tries, halfheartedly afraid that an open wound will be found.
It sees the source everywhere, hears its voice; echoes of its words reverberate in the words of others.
It has no response, other than a collective condemnation, a shared antipathy for what cannot be denied, nor forgotten.
Once one knows, has seen, one cannot un-see the images, the real, and though he thinks he has forgotten, the same dreams visit him, the same unease follows him, the same anxiety accompanies him.
His words sound empty, his condemnations feeble, his past arguments lacking the gravity they once had; the sacred acumen gone.
Once an idol, the icon, has been exposed, he can never return to the pedestal from where he fell onto the muck – the one that knocked him over will be despised, slandered, attacked from afar... forever, and ever, renounced and ostracized, by a collective voice, though the sacred has been forever shattered by his hand.
What a tiny, insignificant price to pay, from his point of view.
He never considered himself part of the group that casts him out of their midst, as punishment, and what he left behind has changed them forever, and ever.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:10 pm

Without overemphasizing them the trio of gender, homosexuality and race, can be used as a litmus test to expose an ill mind - one infected with the memetic virus, feeding on its existential anxiety, and its pretentious ego - resentful arrogance, masking as humility and cynical indifference.

These three topics are on the forefront of modern social engineering.
Later paedophilia and bestiality will take their place, but for now these are the banners of social activism, as practiced by crypto-Marxists, post-modernists...or simply Moderns, as I call them.

They are a test of a mind's connection to natural order.
A test of how subjective, and how content to remain so they are.
A test of how much they are willing to sacrifice to survive, to self-numb, to remain blissfully ignorant.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:11 am

Psychological differences between Realists/Pagans, and Nihilists/Abrahamist



*Sometimes the Nihilist thinks of himself as being a Realist, the Abrahamic as being a Pagan, because Nihilism is parasitical, and like all parasites it masks as the host; it appropriates from the host to cover its true essence so as to continue feeding off of it, consuming it from the inside out.
Best lie is the one the liar believes himself - therefore the best parasitical hypocrisy is based on self-deceit. Survival at all costs  - manimals.

Positive Nihilists

>Nihilist validates his convictions against others - preferably of his own kind - like-minded.
The other is the mirror reflecting him back to himself; the others, are the echo chamber repeating him back to himself.
Realist validates himself and his beliefs against the indifferent world, within which others are a small part.
The world, beyond human contrivances, is his standard of measuring himself and his beliefs.

>Nihilist has only symbols/words, and refers to internal phenomena, usually using convoluted, artistic, metaphorical lingo.
Vagueness is how he tries to escape detection. Metaphors, references, deference to icons/idols, tries to impress.
Realist uses symbols/words to refer to reality; connecting, via their mediation, to phenomena all can perceive - outside his mind.
His words are precise, clear and direct, because his motive is clarity.

>Nihilist requires accolades, appreciation, popularity, to feel validated and vindicated, because his positions are psychologically driven, and psychologically founded; they are about a personal issue.
Realist requires no appreciations because his views are validated by perceptible interactions/behaviours, and are validated by applying them - actions.
They have a pragmatic value.

>Nihilists depend on mass-participation and mass justification, because their positions are nonsensical beyond the human condition- quantities.
He compensates for the absence of empirical validation, and for the lack of utility, with a following.
He either follows, belonging to a mass (herd) or wishes to be followed by as many as possible.    
Realist may depend on others for his well-being, as he is part of a social species, but his positions are dependent on quality, so popularity has the opposite effect to what it has for the nihilist.
For a realist a position's popularity is reason enough to be skeptical about it, given historical precedent, and the beliefs of the masses  through the ages, including our own.  

>Nihilist must proselytize and convince as many others as possible, because his beliefs are meaningless outside minds. Therefor, spreading his convictions is a means of spreading the utility of his theories, which are useless in any other context.
Application relies on psychology. He needs gullible, impressionable, easily dominated minds.
Idiocy is a potential for power.
Realist does not need to convince or impress, because his beliefs are based on reality, shared by all, and existing whether others perceive it or not.
His beliefs are validated by their applied costs/benefits - consequences.  
His positions are so useful, pragmatic, that making them popular would be counter-productive, from a personal, self-interested perspective.
Idiocy is preferable, unless he is trapped in an enclosed environment, among idiots who determine his fate, like in an insane asylum, a prison, or planet earth, in our modern times - then his situation, regarding idiocy, because tenuous.
Stampeding herd of bovines are easily preyed upon, but if in a fenced area the predator is in danger of being trampled.  

>Nihilist must always have a sacred book, full of Holy Scripture, to refer and defer to, or he must always have a famous dead icon/idol to use in his support, whether the dead icon/idol does so or not.
He is a mind of the Book, by the Book, for the Book, where 'Book' can be any text that flatters and makes him feel good.
It's because he requires third-party validation for what cannot be validated independently. With no world to discipline himself to, he seeks limits in other minds, only to appropriate, and/or dismiss them, in time.
Realist needs no such sacred manuals, or sanctified idols. He refers and defers to a collection of manuals that both support and contradict him, because he fears no opposing beliefs, holding his own as superior, not as absolute truths.
Challenges is how he sharpens his mind, and solidifies his positions.  


Negative, or pure, Nihilists
This type of psychosis dismisses his own perceptions when he's become disillusion by positive Nihilism.
Having been trained to not trust his own senses, and to rely on mediators, such as positive Nihilists, he becomes aware of the deceit, but having lost trust in himself has no alternative but to negate all.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:49 am

A mind comes closer to nature with his symbols/words.
He honours world and his existence within it, by correctly, and respectfully applying symbols/words.

They are representations of his nervous system, with the mind as its focus, its Will.
Performing the rites correctly, shows reverence for what is held as sacred.
Applying symbols/words correctly, in accordance to a tradition, a convention, but also in in harmony with nature's order, is a display of one's true reverence.
The right symbols/words placed in their proper sequence, and in the right context, is how a man worships nature.
He does not add, or subtract anything, because this exposes a dissatisfaction.
He begins with what is....what appears.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:18 pm

Having no artistry means not being able to decipher metaphors, or to misconstrue the representation of the real, for the real itself.
This makes degenerates particularly vulnerable to those that can paint metaphorical imagery, pleasing surreal abstractions, naming them whatever pleases or promises a better effect.
It's among the inartistic, the non-talented, where artistry become lost in ambiguity and insinuating forms and colours, or can be used to exploit those that are clueless - the lost, the ones inheriting inferior genes, the ones born and in un-stimulating environments.
You will find them congregating in pop-cultural venues, applauding, mindlessly, what they are told is deep and of great artistic value; what is in fashion, this season, and forgotten the next.
there you will find the misers, the charlatans...those that parasitically feed on such decrepitude.

We can ascribe this degradation of language to nihilistic manipulation as a result of loss of aesthetic acumen.
A cognitive thickness that knows not the difference between metaphor, and representation.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:20 am

What I call Nihilism is an idea(l) that dismisses, and negates the sensually perceived, experienced world.
Nihilism is an idea(l) that has no existence outside the mind.
Pure meme.
Memes are rooted in world and genes interacting with it.
Nihilism inverts this relationship.
It replaces world for the meme, the idea(l) and then relates to it genetically, or it centres world around the idea(l).
The idea(l) was not invented by Abrahamism. They stole it from the Zoroastrians, where it was the idea(l) of a duality God/Satan.

Nihilism is the worshipping of the idea(l), and idea(l)s in their raw form are dualistic, are based on the brain's binary method of interpreting a fluctuating, fluid, dynamic world.
The idea(l) can only be shared, transmitted contemplated as a symbol/word, therefore the symbol/word becomes the essence of the idea(l) - its code, replacing genetic code DNA with a binary code 1/0.
This is related to man's dominance of his body, his animal nature, using the mind. This is called cultivation, becoming civilized.
The mind's binary code imposed upon the body's genetic (G,C,U,A) rules regulating their expression.

With Nihilism this becomes a psychosis.
The genetic code , the body, is rejected completely, and usurped by the binary code of the brain.
This binary code is expressed in many ways.
Spiritually, in Abrahamism as good/evil, or God/Satan.
Politically it is expressed as Right/Left.
Mathematically as 1/0.
Philosophically it is expressed as Absolute Order/Absolute Chaos.

In all these representations, conceptualizations, the common trait is absoluteness.
The absolute is central in nihilism.
It is the absolute negation of the world's uncertainty, its fluidity.
The absolute can be imagined in many ways, one of which is a synthesis of opposites, because the opposites participating in nihilistic dualities are mental fabrications, relative to the individual's self-awareness.
The Nihilist makes of himself the point where these opposites merge into a singularity that can be projected as an Absolute One otherness = God in the abrahamic sense.
The Self becomes a mystical idea(l) synthesizing the opposites of Mind/Body, exoteric/esoteric, I/Other.
World's fluidity, its dynamism, is harmonized with the brain's translation of it into static abstractions using vagueness, ambiguity, a spiritual mysticism. The only place where the semblance of a synthesis between contradictions can be converted into evidence of its validity.
Rather than disproving the thesis it accentuates its magical essence when the contradictions result in great paradoxes, conundrums, contradictions.
Rather than disheartening the individual they indicate that he's on the 'right path' towards enlightenment.
For many the contradictions between his conceptualized abstractions and experienced world become penance, or a testing of his piety, his will.
The paradox is integrated into the dogma as a normal byproduct of its faith.
Mind considers it a testing by the body - corporeality, the physical, testing the commitment of the mind to discipline the body to the idea(l).
Zealotry emerges from this, as a sacrificing of the physical, the body, to the sacredness of the mind's idea(l) = Absolute One.
Asceticism, in the Hellenic sense, is the training of the body/mind, to cultivate an idea(l) where body/mind (self) are part of a continuum that exists within the fluidity of the cosmos.
Asceticism, in the Abrahamic, Nihilistic, sense is the denial of the physical, of the body, and its assimilation into the mind's singular idea(l).
It has no past, only future.
It has no presence, but is everywhere and nowhere.
It does not appear, but is hidden, occult, exposing itself only to the initiated, the chosen, the worthy, the adequately trained in its symbols/words to find meaning.
Language is where the Nihilist's idea(l) exists, and it can only exist in a mind that has been prepared, cultivated, indoctrinated.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:10 pm

There is no 'self' as the Moderns define and understand the term.
Some eventually awaken to the fact that the world is opposition to their understanding, because their understanding is primitive and absolutist, using the most primitive method of conceptualizing, the binary method, and then taking it literally.
To their dismay there is no point in space time, to call 'I', and no eternal, absolute immutable, perfect, whole; no oneness.


Self is a process, emerging, spontaneously, from unconscious interactivity, and then developing into a conscious interactivity, focused outward, and gradually turning inward.
Self, is a process held together by memory, and like all memories they fade, and the risk of losing them is a constant clear and present danger; a by-product of interactivity itself.
Self can only refer to a living organism, to distinguish it from non-living un-conscious processes, with no motive, no judgement, no awareness whatsoever, and therefore no possibility of memory.

Memory is what holds the self-aware ego, within the non-self-aware, but simply aware small self inside the bigger determined past, sum of all selves, Self.
Memory is what connects the patterns, participating in the unity called self, with the continuum of patterns that have interacted and contributed to the causality chain.

Appearance is this chain of causality made present, and apparent to other conscious unities.
Appearance is the manifestation of this chain of causality, that does not hide the entirety of its past - interpreted by another consciousness to the degree that it can decipher the apparent.
Appearance can be covered in garment, in make-up, and can be surgically altered but it cannot be changed.
you can bury and forget it; you can dismiss and deny it...and you still have not escaped it, because you, as you appear, are it.

You are not more, or less than exactly what you appear to be.
Some may misinterpret the apparent, or fail to perceive its details, but that's also something you can fail to do.

What is called 'I', or ego, is simply a partitioning of time/space, in accordance to your motives, or the accuracy of your sensual awareness, excluding dimensions of appearance, because they are unflattering, threatening, or you simply cannot process the data.
The 'I' is contained within a time-frame, determined by your motives and mental speeds.
The 'I' is the ego naming itself.
The ego is the part of the self that is becoming aware of itself.
The self is the part of the Self that begins at inception and ends at death.
The Self is a continuum of memories, stored and passed on, from generation to generation.
It's beginning is lost in time/space, when iteration established a stable, self-perpetuating unity of patterns, withstanding other patterns and random Energies.
The ambiguous point, in space/time when awareness separated from non-awareness, and gained a motive, a goal, an objective. at first simple...like consume, appropriate, attract, the type of patterns being lost, due to attrition, and then gradually progressing to where the energies being lost, in self, became externalized idea(l)s, as mind began to differentiate itself from body.


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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:57 pm

Difference between patrilineal and matrilineal adoption of identity is that the first acquires identify from proactive, masculine, agency, and the second from passive, feminine agency.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:03 am

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Politically it is expressed as Right/Left.

Or we could say that since both sides end in extremes, the scale is actually a circle. We can then identify another axis, crossing the r/l axis at 90 degrees, for measuring the 1/0 absolutes. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] opposed absolutism along this axis. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] works in the same tradition, and in one of his works he recreated the Stanford Prison Experiment.
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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:23 am

Yes.
The either/or polarity of Nihilism is really the approach of the singularity from a different psychological perspective.
The Left from the perspective of femininity approaching a dominant male, and the Right from the perspective of a challenger approaching an adversary.
This creates the two Nihilistic poles of pure and positive Nihilism - Binary thinking

One from the perspective of absolute chaos, where chaos is defined as complexity, and the other from the perspective of absolute order, where order is defined as a singularity and given a title, like God, One, Whole etc.
Right/Left in the Modern west is dominated by Nihilism. The Right/Left are poles in the same nihilistic paradigm.

This is why in the states the "right' is cucksertative, as it is called.
This gives the illusion of freedom, when the masses of morons are asked, every four years, to choose which pole they prefer for the next while, but the system itself is never challenged.  

We see this in philosophy with its total dominance by the idea(l) of absolutes.
Even self-defined secular philosophies presume a replacement for the One God, but hide the fact by renaming the concept something else, like Truth One, Whole, or when they describe the world using terms present in Abrahamism.
What is particularly absurd and funny, is when pseudo-intellectual nit-wits worshipping Nietzsche, like Christians worship Jesus, describe the universe in Christian terms, and assume it to be conscious, one, a God....or when they replace the Christian word 'love' with some other 'positive' emotional term, that only applies to living organisms, implying the universe is alive.
This is funny because of Nietzsche's polemic against Christianity, and indirectly against its maternal source, Judaism.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:38 am

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"Presented at the 12th Documenta in Kassel, Them is a recording of a social experiment performed by the artist. Żmijewski organised a workshop to which he invited four groups representing divergent ideological mindsets: members of nationalist Młodzież Wszechpolska (All-Polish Youth), women strongly attached to the Catholic Church, young Polish Jews and leftist organisation activists.

Like in the exercise Common Space, Private Space performed since the 1980s at Grzegorz Kowalski’s studio at the Warsaw Academy of Fine Arts, the participants of the workshop were given the task to negotiate the shape of their common space without words.

Thus, the debate adopted the form of actions on previously prepared images, which represented the values of particular importance for each of the groups. The workshop, in which the artist retained the observer role, unveiled the way how the ideological controversy arose between the groups and posed questions about the possibility of coexistence of bipolar opposites in the social space."
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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:15 pm

Abrahamic religions and all forms of Nihilism despise science, if it is true to tis principles. Anything that places the standard outside the mind, or uses sensuality, empiricism, to construct theories, it despises, because this handicaps its imagination and prohibits it from creating its mental fabrications, exposing them as being nothing more than creative, fantastic fantasies.
Nihilism wants a free-hand to weave its meanings. Remaining disciplined to natural order, the gods, is too much of a hindrance – too difficult, for them to attain their goal of self-aggrandizing, self-flattering, weaves.
Philosophy would be too difficult, for them, to gain notoriety, or to find in it something to use to better their own lives.
It is far easier to fabricate an alternative, from memory, unconcerned about how it relates to the experienced world – the one that must be adjusted to satisfy, or to comfort the self.
Sure, sometimes they try to harmonize the idea(l) and the real, but this always fails when the mind has already decided what the desired outcome ought to be, or within what parameters it would be deemed ‘good’, and therefore ‘true’, and when reality, itself, does not care what any individual wishes, or cares for.
I call this the seesaw effect. The mind pretending to be scientific and empirical, while leaning towards the fantastic, the fabricated; titter-tottering back and forth, when circumstances threaten to expose its methodology for all the world to see, and guided by a goal, an image, desperate to appear, to the many, as a wise, gifted, talented mind. It’s easier to pretend you excel, and then convince some dim-wits of it, than to actually excel. Dim-wits, are by their nature, dim, and witless, and many share a desperation that can be manipulated. They want to believe in lies, so feeding them lies is like preaching to the choir.
This is why science and religion do not mix, and this is why paganism, or Hinduism, is not a religion.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:48 am

Meaning can be used differently by nihilistic extroverts and by nihilistic introverts.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of data are woven into representations of reality - fabrications of meaning.
Manifesto: Society – Language – Etymology – Word INDEX – Meaning
-Fabrications can cover the individual, keeping the world away, on the "outside" = passive (feminine) pure Nihilism.
The world is 'too much' for the individual to deal with so he cocoons himself in his own construct, his own abstractions, denying everything coming from beyond them.

-Fabrications can cover the world as it is 'too little', too small, not enough for the individual to be fulfilled by it. Ego has hyper-inflated to protect itself. Sense of self has been exaggerated as a defensive posture = positive (masculine) nihilism.
The individual places himself outside, above, beyond the world.
Abstractions, noetic strands, are woven into a tapestry, often more spectacular than reality, that covers the world, until it is buried in artifices and forgotten.
The world is often not denied, completely, but only degraded in relation to the mental fabrication.
It becomes less than it ought to be.  MANifesto: Psychology – Extrovert/Introvert

Symbiosis is now possible, because feminine, passive Nihilism is attracted to proactive masculine Nihilism, if what is presented is appealing, promising to it – the masculine fabrication seduces the feminine out of hiding.
Christianity presented such a 'positive' alternative, better, grander, spectacular, fantastic covering of the world, and the emasculated slaves of the world flocked to it.
The Jews denied it to others, when their fabrication became too attractive for the masses to resist.
Christianity and Islam opened it up to the world, by redefining the world to mean Humanity.
They could ‘change the world’ by changing Humanity – ergo all is a social construct in modern minds.  
Race, sex, many undesirable aspects of the real world were covered in a tapestry of alternate meanings, under the redefinition of humanity as world.
Passive, pure Nihilism and 'positive' Nihilism enter into a master/salve relationship, correlating to an erotic one.
Positive, masculine, Nihilist offers his fabrication to the passive pure Nihilist, as a gift, to liberate him/her from his hiding. The passive element experiences this as an expansion, or a coming-out into the 'world', which is not the real world but the world fabricated by another.

In philosophical contexts this is expressed as a dependence on other thinkers – relating to world via a proxy, and never directly.
World through text, through a sacred book, or a manual held in high regard. The feminine nihilist comes out of hiding, under his own fabrications if there is an alternate reality covering the actual one. He exits his own covering fabrications to enter another's covering, burying, the world.
Like many erotic relationships this one is based on myth – hyper-inflation of each other’s traits. It can suffer the usual consequences of such a symbiotic relationship, after a long period of coexistence and codependency – disillusionment.
The masculine, proactive nihilist is greedy, lustful. He will never turn away a willing surrender, a slave, because his alternate world depends on other minds being integrated, woven into its fabrications –  interwoven, into its tapestry of meanings that covers, buries world.
The passive pure feminine nihilist is prone to what all feminine spirits are prone to – disillusionment with what can only be an imperfect fabrication, and its seduction by a new, alternate, fabrication is almost inevitable. A better promise.  

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:07 pm

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A memetic virus mirrors the strategy of viruses that affect the body, it also follows the same life-cycles: 1- Attachment, 2-Penetration, 3- Uncoating, 4-Release, 5-Assembly, 6-Biosynthesis.
For a memetic virus, such as Nihilism, the transmission is via symbols/words, and the same cycle is this:
1-Attachment: mind comes in contact with a nihilistic idea(l) in text, or word of mouth narrative.
2-Penetration: abstractions penetrate the mind as ideas, in the form of metaphors.
3-Uncoating: nihilistic virus gradually unfolds its meaning, corrupting pre-existing ones.
4-Release: New abstractions arise, that have no reference to reality, or that directly contradict what is experienced.
5-Assembly: these abstractions are combined into new unities, contradicting the sensually perceived world.
6- Nihilistic meme enters the core of the mind’s conceptualizing, gradually detaching it from reality, and engulfing it in tis subjective, private uni-verse, of self-referring absolutes.
The absolute is taken literally rather than as a simplification/generalization constructed by the brain itself.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:21 pm

Understanding how the simple on/off switching method called binary logic, or dualism can adapt to a fluid, multi-dimensional world, and a body using a for code DNA method, is to understand what abstraction is: simplifying/generalizing means reducing multi-dimensional space/time to a simple binary code.
Shedding light into the mind/body divide, or the paradoxes arising from the conflict of idealism and realism, or words and actions.
Also illuminating the memetic virus I call nihilism, and how the mind can immerse itself in self-referential constructs and detach from a more complicate and uncertain world beyond.
The seductive appeal of living in your own private universe, peering into your own eyes, and comfortably safe in your personal subjective space/time, where no other judgments can hurt you.

Think about the body's four code DNA: AUCG....and compare it to the mind's binary code 1/0.
Body has a wisdom the mind is only awakening to, in a simplified form - needing art, metaphors, similes, to conceptualize it.
Now, think about how the body's four codes compare to a cosmos of ten+ dimensional space/time, where space = possibilities, and matter/energy = probabilities.

Now consider the theory that expanding space/time, and increasing chaos, is a fragmentation of dimensions, multiplying possibilities, tending towards the infinite, absolute.

Perhaps we can grasp why intelligence is an advantage, whereas simplicity is a bliss...and why man invents technologies and artificial intelligence to compensate for his own inability to adapt fast enough to this inevitable process of towards chaos.

But do not be disheartened...chaos, as in randomness, is essential for life and, as was noted, for consciousness to emerge...and the absolute is impossible, so absolute chaos, like absolute order, are human construct - abstractions that refer to nothing outside our brains....like 1/0.
They refer to anything and everything.
When we see a stone, is it a singularity, a one stone, or did we separate it from the background in our mind, and translated it into a whole?

The translation I've called interpretation as in Interactions & Interpretations....and we interpret the world in our own subjective ways, and then act in accordance to these interpretations, hoping we got it right.

First interpretation occurs on a primal, simple level, even pants can perform, when interaction stimulates nerve cells, triggering a reaction - localized cascading effect of cellular interactions.
Second, more sophisticated interpretation occurs when the organism develops a nervous system, and this pulse is transmitted to a central processing hub called a brain, and converted to what we call a sensation, and later a thought.
Then in the brain a third interpretation when brain takes all these sensations, thoughts and combines them into mental models we call abstractions.
Then the fourth when the reverse occurs and the thought is translated back to neural [pulse to be transmitted to muscles to produce movement, or to be returned into world as Inter)activity.
At this point the entire process of interpretations are put to the test, and cost/benefit determines natural selection and success/failure.

But if an external will intervenes anywhere in the process to adjust the consequences to its own objective then the mind will grow to become narcissistic, arrogant, and immersed in its private, subjective reality.
It will become stunted, retarded in its development, it will atrophy, unable to cope with what it has evolved to cope with - fragility, pampering....delusional, retarded.

Such minds will prefer to live in their heads, or in artificial realities provided to them by other more creative minds, or will live in books, by books, for books, finding authors, poets, to idolize - icons of their alternate reality.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:14 pm

Let's assume that a boy's bone structure is his inherited constitution.
Can't do much about it. It is what it is.

Let's say his muscles are the cultivated potentials he's inherited.
He can grow his muscles, with stress, or leave them to atrophy.
He can grow them to support his bone structure.
Yet, he is born with a potential for that, as well. A potential he can only exceed using artificial means, like steroids, with expected repercussions.
Like chemical inebriating enhancements.

Now let's say the boy was raised in a sheltered environment.  
Didn't have to lift much weight, was always safe from such efforts, and when he did it was for sport, to look good for the ladies, focusing his stress to specific muscles that are more pronounced.
Lifting weights by the book, in accordance to a ritual, a scripted method to attain certain goals.

Let's say the sheltering ends, and now he's faced with a world of mass, that does not care about his fitness exercises and grooming and desires.
Will not the first mass that exceeds his muscle and skeletal capacity break him?
Will not a crack be formed?

What of the smart-ass boy who uses mental tricks to lift weights, and renames the weight a 'feather'?
Now this trick may work, for a small mass, because of the placebo effect, but what of a mass exceeding his body's ability to trick itself by using words?
Will renaming the elephant a tadpole make it easier to lift?
Do such clever boys not harbour a secret knowledge about their self-deceit, not daring to lift anything dangerous above their heads?
Do not such boys surround themselves with weaklings, or impressionable boys they can performs their tricks to?


Sheltering atrophies the mind.
It makes it incapable of dealing with reality, above and beyond a certain point of stress.
It forces men-children into the unfortunate position of being forced to perform self-deception and parlour tricks, or to dismiss weightlifting as 'beneath them', as too base and primitive for them.
When a mind is broken, it can grow stronger, like a broken bone, or it thicker, like a muscle, but it may tear beyond repair, making all future weights too unbearable.

'What does not kill me has the potential of making me stronger'....not it automatically makes me so.
It may not kill me but it may very well cripple me for life.

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PostSubject: Re: Psychology 101 Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:00 am

How much difference we can perceive or dare to accept determines how precise our interpretations of dynamic existence are.
Sameness, uniformity, is how a simple mind perceives, interprets, what it cannot discern patterns within.
As such, our feeble human senses cannot discern the intricacy of patterns interacting, translating world into static, uniformity - wholes, oneness = absolutes.

Absolutes are the dimensional implosion of much-dimensional inter-activities between patterned and non-patterned Energies.
Energies = ordered and random oscillation/ vibration.

Vibration = fluctuating possibility, where space = possibility and energy/matter = probability.
Oscillation = range of  fluctuating dimensional effect.
Effect = attraction/repulsion.
Attraction/Repulsion = degree of harmony between two, or more, Energies.

Congruence = circumstantial interactivity, perceived by a conscious mind, using itself as a standard as being intentional - with a motive.
Unity = one or more patterns finding balance in their relationship, where the repulsion between them is counteracted by a superior attraction, or by its partial negation within a synergistic relationship.
What this means is that two patterns that would normally repel each other, the degree of disharmony exceeding the degree of their harmony, may become balanced with the intervening effect of a third pattern.
This is how patterns unite to become what we call particles, or cells, or elements, so as to be generalized/simplified into types of matter/energy.

Energies oscillating erratically, their vibrations being random, we call chaotic.....and these can never attain any balance, not be perceived by an organism with our sensual acuity.
Random Energies remain microscopic, because they cannot unify to reach the level of the apparent.
Their effects are integrated into the apparent - integrated in the final outcome of their interactivity, perceived after-the-fact by an organic brain.
We only perceive chaos indirectly, through its effects on patterns, which we can perceive when and if they form balanced unities to reach a level our organic sense organs and our slow brains can process.

But back to sameness/difference.
Sameness relies on the simplification/generalization of fluctuating patterns.
We compare our abstractions of them finding similarities to make them comprehensible to us - or to integrate them into larger theoretical unities.
A simple mind, or an organism with weak sense organs, will not perceive differences in what for another is full of subtle divergences.

The psychological movement to reduce everything human to a uniformity is a desire to become unconscious of differences, tending towards the absolute sameness of a singularity = god.
God is the theoretical idea(l) of a non-differentiated, whole - a uniform singularity, contradicted by existence and its multiplicity.
Therefore God is the perfectly good, and existence the forever imperfectly evil.
Paradox produced is due to the contradiction linguistics creates hen the mind understands symbols/words literally, and not metaphorically, figuratively = representation.

A prefect whole made of imperfect parts is a self-contradicting idea(l) trying to mystify as a means of hiding this self-contradiction.  
Converting the contradiction to a mystification clouds it over, and attempts to hide it, or to use it as evidence of faith.
Faith being the sacrifice of reason, experience, reality on the altar of need/desire.
Mystification is how charlatans, liars,  hide their lies, manipulating the simplicity of their target audience that desires sameness, to become part of a uniform whole, a one.
The psychological desire to ignore, and/or dismiss, reject divergence, is exploited.

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