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PostSubject: Abrahamism Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:25 am

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Abrahamic religions

Symbols of the three largest Abrahamic religions: the Jewish Star of David, the Christian cross, and the Islamic star and crescent.
The Abrahamic religions, also referred to collectively as Abrahamism, are a group of Semitic-originated religious communities of faith that claim descent from the practices of the ancient Israelites and the worship of the God of Abraham. The term derives from a figure from the Bible known as Abraham. Abrahamic religion was able to spread globally through Christianity being adopted by the Roman Empire in the 4th century and the Islamic Empire from the 7th century onward. As a consequence, today the Abrahamic religions are one of the major divisions in comparative religion (along with Indian, Iranian, and East Asian religions). Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the largest Abrahamic religions in terms of numbers of adherents.
The major Abrahamic religions in chronological order of founding are Judaism in the 7th century BCE, Christianity in the 1st century CE, and Islam in the 7th century CE.
Abrahamic religions with fewer adherents include the faiths descended from Yazdânism (the Yezidi, Yarsani and Alevi faiths), Samaritanism, the Druze faith (often classified as a branch of Isma'ili Shi'i Islam), Bábism, the Bahá'í Faith and Rastafari.
As of 2005, estimates classified 54% (3.6 billion people) of the world's population as adherents of an Abrahamic religion, about 32% as adherents of other religions, and 16% as adherents of no organized religion. Christianity claims 33% of the world's population, Islam has 21%, Judaism has 0.2% and the Bahá'í Faith represents around 0.1%.

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Major religious groups as a percentage of world population.
It has been suggested that the phrase, "Abrahamic religion", may simply mean that all these religions come from one spiritual source.[according to whom?] Christians refer to Abraham as a "father in faith".[Rom. 4] There is an Islamic religious term, Millat Ibrahim (faith of Ibrahim), indicating that Islam sees itself as having practices tied to the traditions of Abraham. Jewish tradition claims descent from Abraham, and adherents follow his practices and ideals as the first of the three spiritual "fathers" or biblical Patriarchs: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

All the major Abrahamic religions claim a direct lineage to Abraham:
Abraham is recorded in the Torah as the ancestor of the Israelites through his son Isaac, born to Sarah through a promise made in Genesis.[Gen. 17:16]
The sacred text of Christianity is the Christian Bible, the first part of which, the Old Testament, is derived from the Jewish Bible, leading to similar ancestry claims as above, although most Christians are gentiles who consider themselves as grafted into the family tree under the New Covenant, see significance of Abraham for Christians for details.
It is the Islamic tradition that Muhammad, as an Arab, is descended from Abraham's son Ishmael. Jewish tradition also equates the descendants of Ishmael, Ishmaelites, with Arabs, as the descendants of Isaac by Jacob, who was also later known as Israel, are the Israelites.
The Báb, regarded by Bahá'í's as a predecessor to Bahá'u'lláh, was a Sayyid, or a direct descendant of Muhammad and thus traces his ancestry to Abraham's son Ishmael. Tradition also holds that Bahá'u'lláh is a descendant of Abraham through his third wife, Keturah.
Other terms sometimes used include Abrahamic faiths, Abrahamic traditions, religions of Abraham, Abrahamic monotheistic religions, Semitic religions, Semitic monotheistic religions, and Semitic one god religions.
Adam Dodds argues that the term "Abrahamic faiths", while helpful, can be considered misleading, as it conveys an unspecified historical and theological commonality that is problematic on closer examination. While there is commonality among the religions, in large measure their shared ancestry is peripheral to their respective foundational beliefs and thus conceals crucial differences. For example, the common Christian beliefs of Incarnation, Trinity and the resurrection of Jesus are not accepted by Judaism or Islam (see for example Islamic view of Jesus' death). There are key beliefs in both Islam and Judaism that are not shared by most of Christianity (such as strict monotheism and adherence to Divine Law), and key beliefs of Islam, Christianity, and the Bahá'í Faith not shared by Judaism (such as the prophetic and Messianic position of Jesus, respectively).

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Judaism
One of Judaism's primary texts is the Tanakh, an account of the Israelites' relationship with God from their earliest history until the building of the Second Temple (c. 535 BCE). Abraham is hailed as the first Hebrew and the father of the Jewish people. One of his great-grandsons was Judah, from whom the religion ultimately gets its name. The Israelites were initially a number of tribes who lived in the Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judah.
After being conquered and exiled, some members of the Kingdom of Judah eventually returned to Israel. They later formed an independent state under the Hasmonean dynasty in the 2nd and 1st centuries BCE, before becoming a client kingdom of the Roman Empire, which also conquered the state and dispersed its inhabitants. From the 2nd to the 6th centuries Jews wrote the Talmud, a lengthy work of legal rulings and Biblical exegesis which, along with the Tanakh, is a key text of Judaism.

Christianity
Central Italian School 16th century Head of God the Father
Christianity began in the 1st century as a sect within Judaism initially led by Jesus. His followers viewed him as the Messiah, as in the Confession of Peter; after his crucifixion and death they came to view him as God incarnate, who was resurrected and will return at the end of time to judge the living and the dead and create an eternal Kingdom of God. Within a few decades the new movement split from Judaism.
After several periods of alternating persecution and relative peace vis a vis the Roman authorities under different administrations, Christianity became the state church of the Roman Empire in 380, but has been split into various churches from its beginning. An attempt was made by the Byzantine Empire to unify Christendom, but this formally failed with the East–West Schism of 1054. In the 16th century the birth and growth of Protestantism further split Christianity into many denominations.

Islam
The tomb of Abraham, a cenotaph above the Cave of the Patriarchs traditionally considered to be the burial place of Abraham.
Islam is based on the teachings of the Quran. Although it considers Muhammad to be the Seal of the prophets, Islam teaches that every prophet preached Islam, providing a historical back-story for the religion by independently recognizing Jewish and Christian prophets, and adding others. The teachings of Quran are presented as the direct revelation and words of Allah. Islam (meaning "submission", in the sense of submission to God) is universal (membership is open to anyone); like Judaism, it has a strictly unitary conception of God, called tawhid, or "strict" or "simple" monotheism.

Other Abrahamic religions
Historically, the Abrahamic religions have been considered to be Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Some of this is due to the age and larger size of these three. The other, similar religions were seen as either too new to judge as being truly in the same class, or too small to be of significance to the category.
However, some of the restriction of Abrahamic to these three is due only to tradition in historical classification. Therefore, restricting the category to these three religions has come under criticism. The religions listed below here claim Abrahamic classification, either by the religions themselves, or by scholars who study them.

Bahá'í Faith
Nine-point star of Bahá'í Faith
The Bahá'í Faith, which dates only to the late 19th century, has sometimes been listed as Abrahamic by scholarly sources in various fields.
Though smaller and younger than the well-known Abrahamic religions, the Bahá'í Faith is significant because of its activities, distribution and numbers. The religion is almost entirely contained in a single, organized community with international, national, regional, and local administration, without sects or subdivisions and is recognized as the second-most geographically widespread religion after Christianity. The Association of Religion Data Archives estimated some 7.3 million Bahá'ís in 2005 and the only religion to consistently surpass population growth in each major region of the planet over the last century, often growing at twice the rate of the population.

Bahá'u'lláh (1817–1892), the founder, affirms the highest religious station for Abraham and generally for prophets mentioned among the other Abrahamic religions, and has claimed a lineage of descent from Abraham through Keturah and Sarah. Additionally Bahá'u'lláh actually did lose a son, Mírzá Mihdí. Bahá'u'lláh, then in prison, eulogized his son and connected the subsequent easing of restrictions to his son's dying prayer and compared it to the intended sacrifice of Abraham's son.
The religion also shares many of the same commonalities of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The religion emphasizes monotheism and believes in one eternal transcendent God, the station of the founders of the major religions as Manifestations of God come with revelation as a series of interventions by God in human history that has been progressive, and each preparing the way for the next. There is no definitive list of Manifestations of God, but Bahá'u'lláh and `Abdu'l-Bahá referred to several personages as Manifestations; they include individuals generally not recognized by other Abrahamic religions – Krishna, Zoroaster, and Buddha – and general statements go further to other cultures.

Bábism
Bábism[50] (Persian: بابیه‎, Babiyye), also known as the Bayání Faith (Arabic: بيانة, Bayání), is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion which professes that there is one incorporeal, unknown, and incomprehensible God[53][54] who manifests his will in an unending series of theophanies, called Manifestations of God (Arabic: ظهور الله). It is an extremely small religion, with no more than a few thousand adherents according to current estimates, most of which are concentrated in Iran. It was founded by ‘Ali Muhammad Shirazi who first assumed the title of Báb (lit. "Gate") from which the religion gets its name, out of the belief that he was the gate to the Twelfth Imam. However throughout his ministry his titles and claims underwent much evolution as the Báb progressively outlined his teachings.
Founded in 1844, Bábism flourished in Persia until 1852, then lingered on in exile in the Ottoman Empire, especially Cyprus, as well as underground. An anomaly amongst Islamic messianic movements, the Bábí movement signaled a break with Islam, beginning a new religious system with its own unique laws, teachings, and practices. While Bábism was violently opposed by both clerical and government establishments, it led to the founding of the Bahá'í Faith, whose followers consider the religion founded by the Báb as a predecessor to their own.

Samaritanism
The Samaritan religion is based on some of the same books used as the basis of Judaism but differs from the latter. Samaritan religious works include the Samaritan version of the Torah, the Memar Markah, the Samaritan liturgy, and Samaritan law codes and biblical commentaries. Many[who?] claim the Samaritans appear to have a text of the Torah as old as the Masoretic Text; scholars have various theories concerning the actual relationships between these three texts.

Yazdânism (the Yezidi, Yarsani and Alevi faiths)
Yazdânism, or the Cult of Angels, is a proposed pre-Islamic, native religion of the Kurds. The term was introduced by Kurdish scholar Mehrdad Izady to represent what he considers the "original" religion of the Kurds as the primary inhabitants of the Zagros Mountains, until their increasing Islamization in the course of the 10th century.

According to Izady, Yazdânism is now continued in the denominations of Yazidism, Yarsanism, and Alevism. The three traditions subsumed under the term Yazdânism are primarily practiced in relatively isolated communities, from Khurasan to Anatolia and parts of western Iran.

The concept of Yazdânism has found a wide perception both within and beyond Kurdish nationalist discourses, but has been disputed by other recognized scholars of Iranian religions. Well established, however, are the "striking" and "unmistakable" similarities between the Yazidis and the Yaresan or Ahl-e Haqq, some of which can be traced back to elements of an ancient faith that was probably dominant among Western Iranians[63] and likened to practices of pre-Zoroastrian Mithraic religion. Mehrdad Izady defines the Yazdanism as an ancient Hurrian religion and states that Mitannis could have introduced some of the Vedic tradition that appears to be manifest in Yazdanism.

Shabakism
Shabakism is the name given to the beliefs and practices of the Shabak people of Kurdistan region and around Mosul in Iraq. A majority of Shabaks regard themselves as Shia, and a minority identify as Sunnis. Despite this, their actual faith and rituals differ from Islam, and have characteristics that make them distinct from neighboring Muslim populations. These include features from Christianity including confession, and the consumption of alcohol, and the fact that Shabaks often go on pilgrimage to Yazidi shrines. Nevertheless, the Shabak people also go on pilgrimages to Shia holy cities such as Najaf and Karbala, and follow many Shiite teachings.
The organization of Shabakism appears to be much like that of a Sufi order: adult laymen (Murids) are bound to spiritual guides (pîrs or Murshids) who are knowledgeable in matters of religious doctrine and ritual. There are several ranks of such pîrs; at the top stands the Baba, or supreme head of the order. Theoretically individuals can choose their own pîr, but in practice the pir families often become associated with lay families over several generations.
Shabakism combines elements of Sufism with the uniquely Shabak interpretation of "divine reality." According to Shabaks, this divine reality supersedes the literal, or Shar'ia, interpretation of the Quran. Shabaks comprehend divine reality through the mediation of the "Pir" or spiritual guide, who also performs Shabak rituals. The structure of these mediatory relationships closely resembles that of the Yarsan.
The primary Shabak religious text is the Buyruk or Kitab al-Managib (Book of Exemplary Acts) and is written in Turkoman. Shabaks also consider the poetry of Ismail I to be revealed by God, and they recite Ismail's poetry during religious meetings.

Mandeanism
Mandaeism or Mandaeanism (Arabic: مندائية‎ Mandāʼīyah) is a gnostic religion with a strongly dualistic worldview. Its adherents, the Mandaeans, revere Adam, Abel, Seth, Enos, Noah, Shem, Aram, and especially John the Baptist. The Aramaic manda means "knowledge", as does Greek gnosis.
According to most scholars, Mandaeaism originated sometime in the first three centuries AD, in Mesopotamia. They are Semites and speak a dialect of Eastern Aramaic known as Mandaic. There is a theory that they may be related to the Nabateans who were pre-Islamic pagan Arabs whose territory extended into southern Iraq.
The religion has been practised primarily around the lower Karun, Euphrates and Tigris and the rivers that surround the Shatt-al-Arab waterway, part of southern Iraq and Khuzestan Province in Iran. There are thought to be between 60,000 and 70,000 Mandaeans worldwide. Until the 2003 Iraq war, almost all of them lived in Iraq. Many Mandaean Iraqis have since fled their country (as have many other Iraqis) because of the turmoil created by the 2003 invasion of Iraq and subsequent occupation by U.S. armed forces, and the related rise in sectarian violence by Muslim extremists. By 2007, the population of Mandaeans in Iraq had fallen to approximately 5,000.
The Mandaeans have remained separate and intensely private. Reports of them and of their religion have come primarily from outsiders: particularly from Julius Heinrich Petermann, a scholar in Iranian studies, as well as from Nicolas Siouffi, a Syrian Christian who was the French vice-consul in Mosul in 1887, and British cultural anthropologist Lady E. S. Drower.

Druze faith
The Druze faith is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the teachings of high Islamic figures like Hamza ibn-'Ali ibn-Ahmad and Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, and Greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle. The Epistles of Wisdom is the foundational text of the Druze faith. The Druze faith incorporates elements of Islam's Ismailism, Gnosticism, Neoplatonism, Pythagoreanism, Hinduism (according to some), and other philosophies and beliefs, creating a distinct and secretive theology known to interpret esoterically religious scriptures, and to highlight the role of the mind and truthfulness. The Druze follow theophany, and believe in reincarnation or the transmigration of the soul. At the end of the cycle of rebirth, which is achieved through successive reincarnations, the soul is united with the Cosmic Mind (Al Aaqal Al Kulli).
The Druze Faith is often classified as a branch of Isma'ili Shi'i Islam.

Rastafari
Rastafari, sometimes termed Rastafarianism, is an Abrahamic religion. Classified as both a new religious movement and social movement, it developed in Jamaica during the 1930s. It lacks any centralised authority and there is much heterogeneity among practitioners, who are known as Rastafari, Rastafarians, or Rastas.
Rastafari refer to their beliefs, which are based on a specific interpretation of the Bible, as "Rastalogy". Central is a monotheistic belief in a single God—referred to as Jah—who partially resides within each individual. The former emperor of Ethiopia, Haile Selassie, is given central importance. Many Rastas regard him as an incarnation of Jah on Earth and as the Second Coming of Christ. Others regard him as a human prophet who fully recognised the inner divinity within every individual. Rastafari is Afrocentric and focuses its attention on the African diaspora, which it believes is oppressed within Western society, or "Babylon". Many Rastas call for the resettlement of the African diaspora in either Ethiopia or Africa more widely, referring to this continent as the Promised Land of "Zion". Other interpretations shift focus on to the adoption of an Afrocentric attitude while living outside of Africa. Rastas refer to their practices as "livity". Communal meetings are known as "groundations", and are typified by music, chanting, discussions, and the smoking of cannabis, the latter being regarded as a sacrament with beneficial properties. Rastas place emphasis on what they regard as living 'naturally', adhering to ital dietary requirements, allowing their hair to form into dreadlocks, and following patriarchal gender roles.
Rastafari originated among impoverished and socially disenfranchised Afro-Jamaican communities in 1930s Jamaica. Its Afrocentric ideology was largely a reaction against Jamaica's then-dominant British colonial culture. It was influenced by both Ethiopianism and the Back-to-Africa movement promoted by black nationalist figures like Marcus Garvey. The movement developed after several Christian clergymen, most notably Leonard Howell, proclaimed that the crowning of Haile Selassie as Emperor of Ethiopia in 1930 fulfilled a Biblical prophecy. By the 1950s, Rastafari's counter-cultural stance had brought the movement into conflict with wider Jamaican society, including violent clashes with law enforcement. In the 1960s and 1970s it gained increased respectability within Jamaica and greater visibility abroad through the popularity of Rasta-inspired reggae musicians like Bob Marley. Enthusiasm for Rastafari declined in the 1980s, following the deaths of Haile Selassie and Marley.

The Rasta movement is organised on a largely cellular basis. There are several denominations, or "Mansions of Rastafari", the most prominent of which are the Nyahbinghi, Bobo Ashanti, Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church, and the Twelve Tribes of Israel, each of which offers different interpretations of Rasta belief. There are an estimated 700,000 to 1 million Rastas across the world; the largest population is in Jamaica although communities can be found in most of the world's major population centres.

Abrahamism emerges when population increases have usurped natural order (culling) producing masses of minds in need for validation and a way to excuse themselves from their genetic past and its determinations, reflected in their social status.
Memes mirroring genes.
It's innovation is in its overturning of sensual perceptions and the projection of an absolute in a mystical, mythological realm that is considered more 'real' than the experienced real.
Belief in an absent absolute, existing only as vague noetic abstraction is common to this spiritual expression of Nihilism.
Shares text, and a dependence on symbols/words to validate themselves, they produce mythologies in antithesis to Aryan myths.
Indo-Europeans sued mythologies and narratives to metaphorically represent natural processes and to conceptualize natural order.
Abrahamics use mythologies to usurp and replace the experienced, inventing specialized language to imply occult perceptions and 'higher' wisdom.

The absence of the absolute is compensated by its fabrication.
The immutable, indivisible, eternal, whole, the singularity, cannot be found in the world, so it must be projected linguistically and placed in a beyond,or validates internally giving it a Greek term to mystify it - esoteric.
Use of language is essential, because the ideas proposed exist nowhere but in the mind and therefore can only acquire an external representation through symbols and words.
Language compensates for the absence by forming thoughts into symbols that can be spoken, given acoustic form, or written, given visual form.
With no external reference language becomes the way to manipulate the mind - impress it with concept it desperately want to believe in.
A mind willing to show its commitment, its faith, by sacrificing reason and its sensual awareness - resolution in remaining cognitive blind, so as to attain eternal salvation.

Abrahamism adopts Hellenism methods of mythological narratives, but corrupts them only attempting to associate with Hellenic cosmopolitanism, and Indo-European, grandeur and nobility.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:03 pm

God is the name Abrahamic nihilism gives to its absolute.
Absolute is the immutable, indivisible, singularity - omnipotent, omniscient.
It is a simplification to make it comprehensible and easily related to, to an illiterate, unintelligent populace.
When literacy increased to its present levels it was converted to its more abstract noetic form - one, or order, or whole.
The only place where such a concept can be found is in the brain, where it is a construct based no how the brain simplifies/generalizes external phenomena - how phenomena, the apparent, is translated/interpreted into noumenon - abstraction.

Plato's proverbial cave is the human skull, and his realm of ideals is the human mind.
Abrahamics adopted this to fabricate the christian utopia named "paradise". It refers to the mind where all is made perfect, absolute, complete, whole....but vaguely.
Mind cleanses the phenomenon from its past....means it detaches it from all dimensions except a few.
Past is left behind - overcome.
The idea is cleansed of determinism of the continuum of memories - DNA.
Man's animal nature.
This is metaphorical baptismal rites and rebirth - liberation from past is a cleansing of 'sin'.
Christianity corrupts Aryanism and sells it to a people born and raised as pagans.
It reshapes Judaism to become palatable to an Aryan spirit.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:10 pm

What was symbolically sacrificed on the cross?
What, theoretically, died?
The physical, leaving behind a hypothetically purified mind – mind with no body.
Mind with no past... sum of all nurturing is nature.
Aryanism was sacrificed.
Possibilities were destroyed, leaving behind three – Father/Son/Holy Ghost.
Mind/Body/Nervous System.
The three aspects of human nature.
What is abstracting?
How is the idea, the noumenon, created, constructed?
By severing away all other spatial dimensions = possibilities.
What does this leave behind?
An absolute probability.
What is worshipped by nihilists, is the idea.
What is sacrificed, killed?
The real.
This is Abrahamism.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:11 pm

Whatever lie is necessary is justified. Accusations of heresy and bad intentions whenever you discuss taboo subjects. But if the discussion is comforting then it is "kind", "nice", "good". Talk about a young woman's beauty and she will shine, no matter if she is physically hideous.

Whoever justifies their preference (usually through intimidation) becomes the leader of the domain of what lies or untruths are justified. Open conflict between preferences.

Those who think they do not rely on the lies, can survive without, cease supporting all lies but their own and may seek to destroy the structures underlying it when they find that it isn't ultimately serving their own ends. What they were indifferent to becomes a target for destruction.
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:57 pm

Crucifixion depicts the physical death of man and his rebirth as idea(l), through the acceptance of words as cleansing and identifying. Only man who has logos can be saved, and not animals.
Only man can repeat the words, in ritual, and place his believe, his trust in them.

Muslims are reborn in thymos, and Christians in eros.
The Jews deny salvation to all but themselves.
The end, for them, is a vengeful justification of their earthly suffering as lowliest of the low.
Muslims adopt this vengeance to cleanse the world of those who reject Allah. Their proselytizing is violent, whereas Christian proselytizing is seductive.
Jews become secular to find a similar salvation in symbols.

Through the 'word of god' (logos) the Christian erases his past - makes amends for his sins.
Every week he returns to church to erase his past, before his peers.
Symbols/Words are divine cleansing memes that erase genetic past.
Islam and Christianity recognize no identity before that of submission to the word of god.
The Jews have a genetic component, and deny salvation to all not born of the same matrilineal bloodlines.
This makes them hateful to all the slaves of the world.
They correct this by becoming secular.
Marxism and Frankfurt School post-modernity are the immersion of the secular Jew within mankind made divine through symbols/words.
Symbols/Words expressing a subjective usurping of the physical, objective world. Everything sensually perceived is erased or declared illusion.
Race, sex, everything of the body, genetic, is expunged and replaced by semiology.
Community of words.  
Man reborn as ideology can now find its lowest-common-denominator in ideas.
Man = world.
Love = god.
Every word can have a human, subjective, redefinition.

The essence of nihilism as a memetic virus, spreading through the corruption of language, is exposed.
Every variant of nihilism, since its religious inception can now be identified and categorized as a variant of the same mental virus.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:19 am

Jesus, the christened one, is the redeemer of the world = love.
He comes to cleanse mankind of his nature and purify him as ideal.
The human species (genetics) is reborn as idealized mankind (memetics) = humanism.
Mankind becomes an idea(l), and loses all corporeal identifiers.
Half-breed = half-Roman (pater), half-Jew (mater), belonging to both tribes by blood - sharing in both patrilineal and matrilineal lineage.
An ideal lives forever, or as long as words can become code - virus crystalline cycle.
Words can remain in books forever, awaiting the 'reader' to infect.

The, anti-Christ, will be the inverse - world destroyer (end of times, Armageddon) = hate.
Hate will identify him. He will identify with it. Being hated validates his identity.
Chosen to suffer means chosen to be hated by all the tribes of man that denied the 'one, true, god' - absolute order.
Half-breed = half-Roman (mater), half-Jew (pater), belonging to neither and sharing in both - matrilineal and paterlineal lineage denied entry - belonging fully to none.
Destruction of world means destruction of reality - symbols/words no longer engage world - mind turns inward, rejecting the apparent as illusion, as nil.
Man made dead to the world - Zombie, un-dead.

Emotion (thymos/eros) is the identifier. Not reason.
Reason is manipulated to accommodate emotion.
Aryanism remains indifferent to both - indifference is the proper antithesis.
Emotion feeds into their identifiers.
Hating the Jew is feeding into his self-identity as the one chosen to be hated by all humans, by all life; loving the christian feeds into his identity as the one who chooses to be loved, by all humans, by all life.
Hating the Zombie rather than the virus, does nothing to combat the dis-ease.
The host that was once human should be pitied and  then forgotten as already lost. The virus is the threat.
Remaining immune to this memetic virus entails indifference, because emotion is the weakness it exploits - entering the mind and attaching itself, using words, to emotion, to the primitive brain, to hedonism, to existential anxiety (fear).
The proverbial zombie smells emotion and is attracted to it. It feeds on it.
Metaphor of flesh/blood - passions, the physical.

Modernized Jews secularize to sever their identity as those who await world-destruction (Orthodox Judaism).
They convert to Marxism, as man identified as servant of man - crypto-Christianity (cultural Judaism).
Others convert to Zionism - Semitic tribalism returned to (political Judaism).  

Marxism is a Jewish secularization of Christianity.
Marxism and Zionism are the product of contact with Hellenism, through the Romans.
Aryans were infected by Christianity, and the Semites by Hellenism (Platonic idealism, cosmopolitanism)

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:56 pm

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
To try to understand how Christianity established itself within the Roman Empire is to sift through mysteries piled atop the unknown. For example, how did a religion that began as verbal traditions in Hebrew or Aramaic change into one whose surviving scripture is written almost entirely in Greek? According to Albert Schweitzer,


The great and still undischarged task which confronts
those engaged in the historical study of primitive Christianity
is to explain how the teaching of Jesus developed into
the early Greek theology.


The most historically illogical aspect of Christianity's origin, however, was its Messiah. Jesus had a political perspective that was precisely the opposite of the son of David, who was awaited by the Jews of this era. Josephus records that what most inspired the Jewish rebels was their belief in the Judaic prophesies that foresaw aworld ruler, or Messiah, emerging from Judea—the same prophecies that the New Testament claims predicted a pacifist.


But now, what did the most to elevate them in undertaking
this war was an ambiguous oracle that was also found in
their sacred writings, how, "about that time, one from their
country should become governor of the habitable earth."
The Jews took this prediction to belong to themselves in
particular . . .


The Dead Sea Scrolls confirmed that Jews of this era indeed "took this prediction to belong to themselves" and awaited a Messiah who would be the son of God.


Son of God he will be called and Son of the Most High they will
name him . . . His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom
... he will judge the earth in truth . . . The Great God . . .
will give people into his hand and all of them will be cast
down before him. His sovereignty is everlasting sovereignty.


Ceasar's Messiag

Spinoza tells us that at the time the term 'god' was used in commons parlance to express the highest.

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
Josephus also believed that Vespasian was a divine person. He claimed that Judaism's messianic prophecies foretold that Vespasian
would become the lord of all mankind. This indicates that in the eyes of Josephus, Vespasian was not only the "Jesus," or savior of Judea, but that he was also the "Christ," the Greek word for the Messiah that was foreseen in the prophecies of a Judaic world-leader.


Thou, O Vespasian, thinkest no more than that thou hast
taken Josephus himself captive; but I come to thee as a
messenger of greater tidings; for had not I been sent by
God to thee ... Thou, O Vespasian, art Caesar and emperor,
thou, and this thy son. Bind me now still faster, and keep
me for thyself, for thou, O Caesar, are not only lord over me,
but over the land and the sea, and all mankind.


Josephus, in proclaiming himself God's minister, also described an ending of God's "contract" with Judaism that was quite similar to the position that the New Testament takes concerning Christianity— the only difference being that Josephus believed that God's good fortune had gone over not to Christianity but to Rome and its imperial family, the Flavians.


Since it pleaseth thee, who hast created the Jewish nation,
to depress the same, and since all their good fortune is
gone over to the Romans, and since thou hast made choice
of this soul of mine to foretell what is to come to pass hereafter,
I willingly give them my hands, and am content to live.
And I protest openly that I do not go over to the Romans as
a deserter of the Jews, but as a minister from thee.


Scholars have dismissed Josephus' application of Judaism's messianic prophecies to Caesar as simple flattery. I disagree, and shall show that not only did Josephus "believe" Vespasian to be "god," and Titus therefore the "son of god," but that his histories were entirely constructed to demonstrate that very fact.
There was nothing unusual in Josephus' recognition of Vespasian as a god. The Flavians merely continued the tradition of establishing emperors as gods that the Julio-Claudian line of Roman emperors had begun. Julius Caesar, the first diuus (divine) of that line, claimed to have been descended from Venus. The Roman Senate is said to have decreed that he was a god because a comet appeared shortly after his death, thus demonstrating his divinity.
In 80 C.E., Titus established an imperial cult for his father, who had passed away during the previous year. The cult was politically important to Titus because Vespasian's deification would break the Julio-Claudian line of divine succession and thereby secure the throne for the Flavians.
Because only the Roman Senate could bestow the title of diuus, Titus first needed to convince them that Vespasian had been a god.
There was evidently some difficulty in arranging this, however; Vespasian's consecratio did not occur until six months after his death, an unusually long interval. Titus also created a priesthood, the flamines, to administer the cult. The cult of Vespasian was not isolated to Rome, and appointments were made throughout the provinces. In the areas surrounding Judea, a Roman bureaucracy called the Commune Asiae oversaw the cult. Notably all seven of the Christian "churches of Asia" mentioned in Revelation 1:11 had agencies of the Commune located within them.
Upon her death, Titus also secured the deification of his sister, Domitilla. In going through the process of deifying his father and sister and establishing their cults, Titus received an education in a skill few humans have ever possessed. He learned how to create a religion. Titus not only created and administered religions, he was a prophet. While emperor, he received the title of Pontifex Maximus, which made him the high priest of the Roman religion and the official head of the Roman college of priests—the same title and office that, once Christianity had become the Roman state religion, its popes would assume. As Pontifex Maximus, Titus was responsible for a large collection of prophecies (annales maximi) every year, and officially recorded celestial and other signs, as well as the events that had followed these omens, so that future generations would be able to better understand the divine will.

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Also common, at the time, was to use superstition to instill fear in the masses of illiterates.
In every square walked a messiah, the word for it in Greek being 'christened one' {χριστος}, and in every palace sat a god-king.

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
Not only did the Flavians create religions, they performed miracles.
In the following passage from Tacitus, Vespasian is recorded as curing one man's blindness and another's withered limb, miracles also performed by Jesus:


One of the common people of Alexandria, well known for his
blindness . . . begged Vespasian that he would deign to
moisten his cheeks and eyeballs with his spittle. Another
with a diseased hand prayed that the limb might feet the
print of a Caesar's foot. And so Vespasian . . . accomplished
what was required. The hand was instantly restored to its
use, and the light of day again shone upon the blind.


The Gospels record that Jesus also used this method of curing blindness, that is by placing spittle on a blind man's eyelids.


After thus speaking, He spat on the ground, and then,
kneading the dust and spittle into clay, He smeared the clay
over the man's eyes and said to him,
"Go and wash in the pool of Siloam"—the name means
"sent." So he went and washed his eyes, and returned able
to see.


Other stories were circulated about Vespasian that suggested his divinity. One involved a stray dog dropping a human hand at Vespasian's feet. The hand was a symbol of power to first-century Romans.
Another tale described an ox coming into Vespasian's dining room and literally falling at the emperor's feet and lowering his neck, as if recognizing to whom its sacrifice was due.
Circulating tales that suggested they were gods was no doubt thought by the Flavians to be a good tonic for hoi polloi. The more an emperor was seen by his subjects to be divine, the easier it was for him to maintain his control over them. The Flavians certainly focused on manipulating the masses. To promote the policy of "bread and circuses" they built the Coliseum, where they staged shows with gladiators and wild beasts that involved mass slaughter.
Imperial cults that portrayed Roman emperors as gods and workers of miracles appear to have been created solely because they were politically useful. The cults seem to have evoked no religious emotion. No evidence of any spontaneous offerings attesting to the sincerity of the worshipers has ever been discovered.
The advantage of converting one's family into a succession of gods appealed to many Roman emperors: 36 of the 60 emperors from Augustus to Constantine and members of their families were apotheosized and received the title diuus.
Of course, inventors of fictitious religions must have a certain cynicism in regard to the sacred. Vespasian is quoted on his deathbed as saying, "Oh my, 1 must be turning into a god!"
Pliny commented on the cynicism that the Flavians felt toward the religions they had created. Notice in the following quote Pliny's understanding that Titus had made himself a "son of a god."
Titus deified Vespasian and Domitian Titus, but only so that one would be the son of a god and the other a brother of a god.

Ceasar's Messiag

In this next quote the Romans display an understanding of what they were doing and why, in their attitude towards religions, inducing their own.

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
The cynicism that the patrician class felt toward religion was a subject of the satires of the Roman poet Juvenal. While the exact dates of Juvenal's birth and death are unknown, it is believed that he lived during the era of the Flavians. One of his satires concerns Agrippa and Bernice, the mistress of Titus. Tradition has it that Juvenal was banished from Rome by Domitian.
Sophisticated Romans like those Juvenal wrote about did not believe in the gods but rather in fortune and fate. The prevailing ethos of the patrician class was that the world was either ruled by blind chance or immutable destiny:


Fortune has no divinity, could we but see it: it's we, we ourselves,
who make her a goddess, and set her in the
heavens.


Judging from the works of Juvenal, many Romans saw all religious belief, including their own, as ridiculous.


Just hark at those loud denials, observe the assurance of
the lying face
He'll swear by the Sun's rays, by Jupiter's thunderbolts,
by the lance of Mars, by the arrows of Delphic Apollo,
by the quiver and shafts of Diana, the virgin huntress,
by the trident of Neptune, Our Father of the Aegean:
he'll throw in Hercules' bows and the spear of Minerva,
the armories of Olympus down til their very last item:
and if he's a father, he'll cry; "May I eat my own son's
noodle—poor child!—well boiled and soused in a vinaigrette
dressing!


Juvenal was also cynical toward Judaism. His attitude regarding the religion suggests that many within the patrician class saw the
religion and, no doubt, its offspring Christianity, as barbaric cults.

... A palsied Jewess, parking her haybox outside, comes
begging in a breathy whisper. She interprets Jerusalem's
laws; she's the tree's high priestess . . . She likewise fills
her palm but more sparingly: Jews will sell you whatever
dreams you like for a few coppers.

Ceasar's Messiag

The nature of the Jew was known to Europeans before Hitler was ever born.
Dream merchants produced by those who created a dream-world to escape the real one.
To this day they peddle dreams.
Usury being the dream that money can compensate for everything.

Nihilism is the construction of dreams using symbols/words.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:37 am

Religion begins as a cult.
Cult is a religion that has become popular.
We should not confuse spirituality with religion.
We know of three major religions.
Abrahamism - Judaism = Christianity, Islam.
Paganism, Hinduism, Buddhism are not religions, but some efforts have been made, by some, to make them into religions.

There are specific traits differentiating spirituality from religion.

1- There is always a Holy Manual, a sacred book, full of sacred words.
Language specialization is essential to the development of a religion.
Language is an indication of a separation of the mind from body, or the ideal form the real. Therefor it indicates a commitment to the cause, to what it takes to be initiated, to leave the old self behind and become a new identity.
This willingness is a primer for the replacement of reality with an ideology. The alternate reality will not hold if the real world is constantly contradicting it.
Neediness, feebleness, desperation, physical mental illness, is a prerequisite for this sacrifice to be embraced.

2- It has idols or icons, worshipped as infallible deities.
there is always a representative of these icons/idols, a Messianic figure, acting as a lens through which these icons/idols are focused and exaggerated - their image corrupted to impress and to manipulate feebleness.  

3- It is totally disconnected from reality, along the lines of its linguistic specialization.
Religions are always nihilistic, and the cults that aspire to become religions must be nihilistic.
Spirituality uses words metaphorically to represent observable, experienced, phenomena, but not religions.
They use words to disconnect from reality, not to connect to it.
Religions only refer to script, spoken/written by sacred figures.
The status of sacredness is what lends credence to the words and symbols alternate usage.
To comprehend it you must buy into it; you must be initiated into the alternate reality, represented by the alternate usage and application of symbols/words.

4- Religions always claim an esoteric substance, commentating for an exoteric absence of substance.
Internal profoundness is implied to replace exoteric nonsense.
Faith, or membership worthiness, is measured by how much shame, or how much reason an individual is willing to sacrifice to attain the status of membership and be given access to the alternate reality.

5- If not through specialized language then a dress-code ensures a separation of the initiated from the masses of non-initiated.
The saved from the damned, the chosen from the rejected, the worthy from the unworthy.
This exploits natural human desires to belong and to stand out from the many.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:15 am

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
The question I was trying to answer was an old one: Who is Jesus?
The mystery of Jesus' identity begins with his very name. "Jesus Christ," or, as Paul calls him, "Christ Jesus," was certainly not the real name of the founder of Christianity. Christ is the Greek word for "Messiah" and Jesus is a Greek homophone (ee-ay-sooce) for the Hebrew word Yeshua, which can mean either "God saves" or, as in the case of Jesus, "Savior."
The proposition that Jesus' name was to be understood as "Savior" cannot be disputed because it is confirmed by no less a source than an "angel of the Lord."
But while he [Joseph] thought about these things Behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream saying . . .

"And she will have a son, and you are to name him
Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins."
Matt. 1:20-21

The word the angel used to indicate that Jesus would save his people was soteria,90 a derivative of soter,91 the Greek word for "savior."
However, the angel who named the child Jesus also began the confusion over the identity of the "Savior Messiah." Immediately following his instruction to call the child "Jesus," the angel notes that the child that the "virgin will conceive," is to be called by another name.

All of this happened to fulfill the Lord's message through
his prophet:
"Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give
birth to a son, and he will be called Immanuel (meaning,
God is with us]."
Matt. 1:22-23
Caesar's Messiah

Layer upon layer of metaphors describing real individuals, renamed, and real events metaphorically described, to crate a mystical narrative later generations would literally interpret and be seduced by.
We should note that the Hellenes were masters at creating such narratives, as the myth concerning the oracles of Delhi and their Olympian saga attests to, but they did not buy into them literally....at least not the wise men.
Their myths were narrative describing reality using allegory.
With the Jews the myth is to describe an alternate reality using allegory - an inverted one.
The motive was different, as was the effect.
The Romans having been educated by the Hellenes knew the power of language and how it can be sued to exploit illiteracy, stupidity, cowardice and hypocrisy and turned the tables on the Jews and their mystical narratives to construct an alternate that ridiculed and did not exalt the 'chosen'.
They set the foundations for what was to become a reflection of Judaism - Christianity. The Script from being comedic allegory can be reinterpreted literally, or in other ways.
New testament was written as a anti- Old Testament, anti Torah narrative that became its shadow, its addendum. The tactic succeeded but backfired on the Romans.
They, like Socrates, misjudged the effect wisdom would have no dull minds and covetous psychologies.  

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
The Hebrew Bible was structured as an organic whole and can be thought of a "a series of concentric circles with some interlocking rings," as Freedman puts it." For instance, the Torah and the book of Joshua (which together form the Hexateuch) have an overall mirror-image literary structure in which the main themes of books from Genesis up to Exodus 33 are then mirrored in parallel structures in the books from Exodus 34 to Joshua 24.
The creators of the Hebrew Bible also used structural parallels at a micro level. For instance, in a technique known as pedimental composition,100 two passages that contain many parallels are used to provide a literary "frame" by sandwiching a third central passage between them—for example, Leviticus 18 and 20 provide such a "frame" for the central passage in Leviticus 19. The consequence of these traditional literary techniques is that the Jewish reader does not read a text in what might be thought of as a rational, straightforward, and linear manner. On the contrary, the Jewish reading is intertextual. The use of similar phrasing, formulas, places, clothing, and so on are used to create layers of associative meaning, as contrasts, and to provide continuity and color.
In some cases the authors create what Robert Alter has called "type scenes" —so, for example, Abraham's servant meeting a young woman by a well is then later paralleled by Moses meeting a young woman by a well, and the reader is invited to contemplate the similarities, differences, and continuities.
In Hebrew literature, these typological relationships are a source of open-ended speculation and debate. To the Romans this perhaps seemed part of the barbarous mysticism that provoked the Jewish Zealots to revolt.
So they "improved" the nature of their parallels in the New Testament from the open-ended types found within the Hebrew canon to ones that were very precise in their logical and chronological relationships, and in the identities that they reveal.
The authors of the Gospels were very aware of the typology in Hebraic literature and were, in effect, showing that they were able to produce a more perfect, more complex form of it.
Moreover, there was a profound irony in the authors' requiring the Gospels and War of the Jews to be read in the manner of Judaic literature in order to learn that they had created a false Judaism.
The insight that Josephus was using typological parallels occurred when I noticed that Josephus' tale regarding the capture of the unnamed "certain young man" on the Mount of Olives is parallel to another passage within War of the Jews, the passage above, in which Eleazar is whipped and escapes crucifixion. Josephus identified the two stories as being parallel by having each passage tell the same story, their only differences being in location and that the "certain young man" is unnamed in the Mount of Olives version.
Caesar's Messiah

Judaism had to employ a corruption and manipulation of language to invert reality, offering hope and salvation to its own creed.
The author suggests that the New Testament was a Roman attempt to deal with Jewish insurrection by copying the style so as to imitate and comically ridicule the method and the content.

This agrees with my own position no Nihilism and how it corrupts language,  using the manipulation of signs, of symbols/words to detach mind from real events and reattach them to fantastic, imaginary abstractions, encasing the mind in noetic artificiality.
According to Atwill the Romans successfully copies Jewish mysticism and invented a narrative that metaphorically ridiculed Jewish rebels.
Abrahamism is a linguistically founded allegory that intends to mystify and take advantage of human weakness.
Human idiocy, neediness, illiteracy, ignorance, hypocrisy and cowardice.
They are the Religions of meekness and feebleness, written for the explicit purpose to exploit and manipulate.

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
Josephus could not have stated that the Flavian Caesars saw themselves as the Messiahs, or "Christs," foreseen by the prophecies of Judaism's world ruler any more clearly. But this proposition suggests questions. How could Titus have taken the title of the "Christ" away from the messianic leaders that he struggled with? How could Titus have made the rebellious Jews call him "Christ"?
I discovered how Titus achieved this during my efforts to determine if Jesus, like his Apostles, had a secret identity. I uncovered a series of puzzles within the New Testament and War of the Jews that reveal that not only was Titus Flavius the "Son of Man" predicted by Jesus, but that he was, in fact, the "Jesus" who interacted with the disciples in the final passage of the Gospels—in John 21. Put simply, the puzzles reveal that Titus is the "Jesus" Christianity has unknowingly worshipped.
These puzzles also reveal that the name of the Jewish saviour Titus captured on the Mount of Olives and stole the title of "Christ" from was Eleazar, and that he was satirized as the "Lazarus" within the New Testament. The puzzles were also designed to change the story line of the New Testament from the one that has been a comfort to mankind into perhaps the most vicious tale ever written.
To begin to show how these puzzles accomplish all this, it is first necessary to explain how the New Testament interacts with War of the Jews to disclose the name of the Jewish saviour Titus captured on the Mount of Olives and executed.
This individual's name was Eleazar, which means "whom God aids" in Hebrew and is translated as "Lazarus" in Greek. The fact that the New Testament records that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead makes the notion that Lazarus might have been the name of the "Christ" that Titus executed especially hard to accept. To come to this understanding the reader must both recognize a number of parallels between Jesus and Eleazar and solve a series of puzzles.
Only then can the reader learn the Jewish Messiah's real name.
I recognize that the parallels may seem disjointed and difficult to comprehend at first, but I ask the reader to bear with this. If the comic connections between the New Testament and War on the Jews were meant to be seen easily they would not have remained hidden for 2,000 years. In this case the satirical connections between Jesus
and Eleazar have been hidden by placing the key parallels to Jesus into a number of different characters named Eleazar or Lazarus. The author requires the reader to remember events experienced by a number of different "Eleazars" to understand his point. In other words, as he had with the various "Simons" and the demoniac of
Gadara above, the author is using different characters that he links typologically by a shared name or parallel experiences to create a single satiric theme. The apparent vagueness of the parallels between Jesus and Eleazar will ultimately lead to a connection that is of crystal clarity.
Once I had begun the study to determine the identity of Jesus, I noticed that there are parallels between him and a number of characters named Eleazar. As I show below, characters named "Lazarus" or "Eleazar" were said to have had the Jesus-like attributes of having been born in Galilee, having the power to expel demons, having been scourged, having been plotted against by high priests, having survived a crucifixion, having a tomb that was very like Jesus', and, of course, having risen from the dead.
Caesar's Messiah
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As was the tradition of the time all was seeped in allegory.
Words used to metaphorically describe actual events.
A play on words and their definitions in different languages.

It's what degenerates now use to cloud words is magical auras, and place them in esoteric realms, afraid to expose their meaning, their allegorical references from fear of being exposed as what they actually are, and how simple and idiotic their 'profound' insights truly are.
Language applied to hide, to cover,to conceal...not to reveal, to bring to light, to make clear.
The allegorical tale of Star wars as a modern day reflection of Abrahamism, exposes this method in its usage of light side and dark side, in an inverted manner.
The darkness unifies, by hiding distinctions, by blinding, mystifying, whereas light reveals differences, exposes separation, diversifies......the exact opposite of how the two forces of good and evil are depicted.
On the dark side a uniformity of Caucasians, with the icon of bad being European. whereas on the other side a uniformity of fashion and racial superficiality, lead by a female and with the icons being a Negro and a Caucasian female.
Authoritarian Paternalism represented by Europeans, and the good guys a rag tag amalgamation few hipsters, lead by cool modern icons of a coming age of mulatto uniformity under superficial fashion difference is style.
All the Caucasian die, on the 'light side' made spirit, idols, guiding the flesh and blood rebels with their spirit; sacrificing themselves for the cause.
All races, species mixed into oneness.  
The message is clear, but indirect, for the consumption by imbeciles, with delicate digestive systems.

The only respond to this mind altering manipulation of language, and metaphors is to country as the Romans did, with a comedic ridicule, adopting its methods, and seeding discord among the morons using their own metaphors....their idiotic 'logic' pushed to its ridiculous end.  
Like declaring that you are not a human, and ought not to be judged by appearances, but that you are, in fact, a goat, like me, Satyr.
Demanding to be addressed accordingly.

Atwill, Joseph wrote:
.
.. for I have seen a certain man of my own country, whose
name was Eleazar, releasing people that were demoniacal
in the presence of Vespasian, and his sons, and his captains,
and the whole multitude of his soldiers. The manner of the
cure was this: He put a ring that had a root of one of those
sorts mentioned by Solomon to the nostrils of the demoniac,
after which he drew out the demon through his nostrils . . .
And when Eleazar would persuade and demonstrate to the
spectators that he had such a power, he set a little way off
a cup or basin full of water, and commanded the demon, as
he went out of the man, to overturn it, and thereby to let the
spectators know that he had left the man.93

The passage above is related to the following passage from War of the Jews regarding another magical root that could dispel demons.
The story takes place in a land called "Baaras" where a "sort of rue" also named "Baaras" grew. Baaras appears to be a play on the word for son, bar, reminiscent of the manner in which Sicarii was perhaps deliberately misspelled as Iscariot.
The New Testament and Josephus often engage in humor regarding the identity of the "Son." The passage also states that this magical "rue" has been around "since the times of Herod, and would probably have lasted much longer had it not been cut down by those Jews." This indicates we are dealing with a single plant. However, what sort of plant is there only one of?
In any case, why is Josephus going to lengths to describe a plant that no longer exits? Further, Josephus also defines in the passage what he meant by the word "demons." They are the "spirits of the wicked," thus supporting the idea that the "wicked" Sicarii were possessed by "demons" and were the "unclean spirits' in the "demons of Gadara," as well as the idea that the demons Eleazar is exorcizing in the passage above are Jewish rebels.
When the elements of the passage below regarding the magical "root" are viewed as a group, a picture emerges. The passage describes a single plant that was called "son," which had been around since the time of Herod and had a magical power to drive out demons. This "son" would have lasted longer except that "those Jews" cut it down. What, other than a satire of Jesus, could this passage be?
As the passage contains clear parallels to the one above, describing an "Eleazar" who also dispels demons using a magical rue, it was written to connect "Eleazar" to the other son who exorcized demons—that is, Jesus.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:42 pm

Something i have noticed with religious people is to personalize their religious convictions, there is always this chosen aspect to it as well. With the Jews it being the chosen people, i would also say this goes beyond just religious views, but rather a racial line. With the Christians it's their personal relationship with Jesus, this also seems to be racial to a degree, dwelling in a European line. With the Muslims it's the Arab blood line from previous caliphates.

This personalization is used to justify their own personal perspectives, as a way to balance a religious identity and a racial identity at the same time. It also seems like religion is being used as a tool to promote racial domination but masking itself in some kind of deceptive positive invitation.

I'm not entirely too sure if it's intentional or a byproduct of a religious mind entering upon a racial process
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:45 am

Sulpcius Severus wrote:
Titus is said to have first summoned a council and deliberated whether or not he should destroy such a mighty temple
.. . Titus himself said that the destruction of the temple was a prime necessity in order to wipe out more completely the religions of the Jews and Christians for they urged that these religions, though hostile to each other, nevertheless sprang from the same sources; the Christians had grown out of the Jews; if the root were destroyed, the stock would easily perish
(Christianos ex ludaeis exitisse radice sublata stirpem facile perituram).

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:50 am

If we take Atwill's interpretation of the Old and New Testament in his book [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as a plausible narrative then Christianity was a Roman invention, crated as an antidote to Jewish nihilism and rebelliousness.
He offers some very compelling arguments concerning the usage of words and names, and rationalizes the mystical narratives in the bible in a very comprehensive alternate reading of Scripture.
His positions also agree with our own experiences with Christians and Jews.
We find, to this day, only Christians on the forefront of exposing post-modern nihilistic narratives.
Crowder and Duke come to mind as internet characters with a very combative attitude toward Frankfurt School post-modernity.
If we are to accept Atwill's position that Faluvius invented Christianity to discredit, ridicule and make Judaism harmless then we can agree that it is still working.

Judaism, like Islam, resists integration, unlike Christianity.
The only way to change this is to either secularize the dogma, or corrupt it by modifying its allegories.
the problem the Romans had with the Jews, called Sicarii, the US and the west is currently experiencing with the Muslims.

As an example of Atwill's interpretation is the very name Sicarii, translated into Greek as a modified Iscariot....Jesus the Iscariate, or Sicarii.
Jesus was a common name at the time, meaning saviour and given to those who promises liberation - saviour.
If we combine this with Spinoza's insight that at the time 'god' was a common Hebrew metaphor, similar to how the Muslims presently use \mother (mother of all battles...etc.) to describe something great, large....a measure of all such events....the God has been literally interpreted when it was metaphorically used...and God was also used to describe the roman emperor.

Mary, was a name given to rebellious Jewish females, similar to how the Americans used 'charlie' to describe any Viet-Cong rebel, or the Allies used Kraut to name the enemy.


We also realize how nihilism is linguistically based and how words can be used to propagate it and to disintegrate and expose its ruse.
The Romans could not make the superstitious, fanatic Jews submit and call him Lord, so they fabricated a method to subdue them and make them bow, without even realizing it.

The pagan Romans, invented a version of Judaic spiritual nihilism, as an antidote to its viral infectiousness among the feeble and needy - those rebelling against State and Natural order.
An invention still effective.....when it is not corrupted by the virus itself.
This would then make Marxism a method of escaping this dogmatic antagonism, by inventing a secular version of Christianity where judaism can be assimilated as principle - its underlying value standards.
Marxism unifies judaism and Christianity by eliminating the religious dogma, and being 'chosen', and 'god's people'.
It erases past, beginning with genetic past. All are reborn as clean slates the State can write on, shaping them into ideal citizens.
Sex-less, race-less, blood-less...united in idea.
Proletariat.
A comrade has no race or sex....no past.
He is measured by his work - how much he contributes to the collective.
God becomes State.
Sinner becomes capitalist.

here's another interesting insight from Atwill's book.
The tradition of eating of the flesh and drinking of the blood of the Christ is based on a real event.
He parallels War of the Jews with the New Testament...and connects the events described in the Biblical narrative with Rome's campaign against the rebellious Jews.
Fisher of men - a real event where many Jews were rescued by the Romans, saved from drowning.
But the event in question is of one 'Mary'...in other words Sicarii female who was forced to cook and consume her own child - a boy.
Cannibalism.
In Christianity this is made into a ritualized symbolic consuming of flesh and the drinking of blood....from the Christ - Saviour.
What is symbolically consumed is the flesh of the rebel Jew, who being kosher are ridiculed for being forced to consume human flesh, when Falvius trapped them within the walls of their city.


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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:39 am

According to Atwill, who I am currently in a bromance with, Jesus is the anti-Moses, and Christianity is the taming, my word, of Judaism and its elitist Nihilism.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:33 am

To the question are Jews white, one can expand to include other Abrahamic memes, and ask:
Are Muslims white?
Are Christians white?

The intentionally confusion of a nihilistic meme with genes and memes that are gene specific...in other words all non-nihilistic memes.
Nihilism is the detachment from the world, from nature - nature = past, sum of all past nurturing.
Detachment from the past made present, or manifesting as presence and interpreted as appearance, interpretation of the apparent.
Nihilism is not a single ideal, it is a multiplicity of ideals, theories, all sharing the same detachment, so what characterizes their absolutism, is multiplicity.
This irony I've explained as a product of detachment itself.
A mind that no longer uses empiricism, sensual perceptions, the world as an objective standard is liberated to manufacture any synthesis of memories - combinations of aesthetics of the apparent, producing what cannot be found outside the brain, except as projected, linguistically, semiologically as words/symbols.
The brain 'liberated' from natural order is free to fantasize anything, in any way, and evaluate the product by how many minds it can convince, trick, and/or seduce.
as it frees itself, noetically, from natural order, it enslaves itself to other minds and their needs.
This is what it means to define 'world' as 'humanity' - inter-subjectivity.
In this fantasy alternate reality, the world is, indeed, a product of society, and mutual agreements, and compromises.

Does the real world care?
No...it is indifferent to all human contrivances and methods to cope.

Abrahamism, as a nihilistic spiritualism, is not gene specific because it is entirely noetic - theoretical.
What nihilists despise in Judaism is that it imposes a limit to who can be included in the meme.
Whereas the Romans had issues with Jewish proselytizing, they solved it by inventing Christianity, according to Atwill....or Christianity emerges from this contact and conflict between more realistic pagan spirituality with Jewish nihilism.
The self-castrating mark themselves as chosen by an imaginary God, not permitted to be depicted. A rule the Islamic dogma also copies, unlike Christianity which after a war over icons, continues its pagan based idolatry.
Judaism imposes a memetic rule to then become genetic, or it preserve its birth among specific tribes, that invented it to cope with what was superior.
They are tribe-specific, and not race specific. Not because of genetics but because they, the chosen, are the 'one god's true followers. They were 'selected' by the divine, and mark themselves, to this day, by circumcision and dress (tradition), as those who 'correctly' chose to submit.
Shame converting to pride - everything inverted, including the natural hierarchy pyramid.
The idea(l), their meme, more real than the perceived.
The strong converted to weak, and the weak converted to strength.
The blind to seeing.
Orwellian newspeak.
Corruption of language - detaching ti from reality to invert the meaning of words.
Those most desperate, most weak, most degenerate find this linguistic inversion preferable, and this is why a limit on who can be included had to be invented - why Christians and Muslims resent Judaism, and its tribe-based spiritual elitism.
They 'correct' it by adopting pagan cosmopolitanism - all can be saved, no matter their tribe, race, sex etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:35 am

Marxism is also not gene based.
All can become part of the communist collective, and their identity will be based no their work - labouring for the benefit of the uniform collective.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:18 pm

Nihilism is imbued in the psychosis of the Modern.
It exposes itself in its attitude towards 'free-will' which it defines in ways where 'free' contradicts, or is contradicted by 'will'.
It is exposes in its innate fatalism, when using words like 'determinism' and 'perfection'.

In hindsight, where we exists and how, is considered, by them, as inevitable.
They baptize the existent 'perfect' because they are present to name it, like god's fathers or mothers.
The modern looks at the world and his place in it, and if he likes it, he names it 'good' and inevitable; if it is bad he names it illusion and negates it with a new name...he renames it.
As if where he is, and what he is, has been preordained and he is but a observer of his own existence - judging it according to his altering interests, and the needs/desires this manifests as.
They do not really want to be free, because this would mean they have to take responsibility for who and what they are.
Free-Will, for them, means ephemeral, shallow, trivial, tastes, constructed by some other, an otherness, like the system, or god, or society - forever the victims of happenstance., never culpable, forever innocent, pure, infantile.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:54 pm

Just as the Cold War was an internal Nihilistic affair - a consolidation of power between two versions of positive Nihilism - so too the War on Terrorism is a settling of inter-familial accounts .



Kurds are Marxists, fighting against Islamic fundamentalists, alongside Orthodox Russians and Protestant Americans.

The masses need a idealism, a positive Nihilism, to rally behind.
Nobody is going to fight no the side of reason, or natural law.
Man is antagonistic towards nature - he is ordering in Flux, or becoming as agon against natural forces that threaten to end him.
Out of the gene the meme emerges to give it direction, to give it meaning.
All ideals are, to one degree or another, anti-natural, Nihilistic, because nature has no ideals, and no absolutes.
Nature is about constant struggle, constant destruction and construction, and man craves certainty, stability, peace.

When populations grow mutations accumulate, and so does miscegenation.
This means there are individuals with inclinations that would have normally been culled out of a population but have survived due to man's antagonism against natural order.
There are also individuals with no definite connection to the past, because they have lost track of their own lineage - individuals desperate for an identity, a culture to call their own.
These increasing numbers of individuals will need something to justify their own existence, to give them an identity, direction, meaning.
They will inevitably be attracted to one, or another idealism, that positive Nihilism has produced or will produce.
These different variations will then, inevitably clash, over their hearts and minds.

Wars used to be about genetic domination, but now genetics are being dismissed, replaced by memetics.
The more extraordinary the claim, the more all-inclusivity it promises, the more it will attract quantities of these disenfranchised, lost souls - these genetic outcasts.
Culture (meme) based idealism will be the only kind of idealism.
The bigger the lie the more convincing it will become to these lost souls.
Words with no connection to reality will replace words that remind them of a nature they despise and want to flee, and replace with an ideal.
Nature is indifferent and inhumane. These souls want to belong and to be directed, without making it obvious.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:01 pm

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And a Communist is an inborn crypto-Christian...full circle.

Misers hoard their inheritance, triple-locking it up in secret dark vaults, where only the few are permitted entrance, after signing a promissory note of trust.
Their 'friendship' has a price, and an ongoing interest rate.
Their 'generosity' is a yearly closing of the books, and handing out gifts of reciprocated bondage, hoping to buy a bit of divine good-will with a bit of pity.
Their gifts are given with an expectation, and they are always symbolic, intangible, some ideological contrivance to hold over another's head, to crown, or to drop and shatter.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:33 pm

The miser crawls beneath the earth, like worm, digging subterranean caverns, to hold his mystical wealth.
He speaks of the sun, and it is of no sun I've ever seen, or anyone else for that matter.
His is a secret, fantasy ball of fire - bubbling under tons of dirt and stones, exploding,. from time to time, to make a big show before ti subsides and cools down to another rock - no more and no less valuable than any other; no more and no less useful than any other.

The miser imagines the perfect stone, smelt in the perfect subterranean ovens, where he brings his chosen friends to share his craftiness, and to sell it to them.
Strange shapes decorate his caves, meant more to display than to offer.
He gives in yearly potlach generosity, making up for his year-long psychosomatic vapyrism.
A few shiny pebbles for the natives, if only they worship the ground he walks beneath.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:29 pm

Small errors accumulate into huge mistakes that have to, then, be faced and corrected, in total, or must be covered-up by a monstrous lie, adopted and promoted as 'truth' by all those who fell victim to it.
A community of liars is established, each protecting their own gullibility and culpability, as well as a shared desire to evade the consequences.
Whatever course is taken one thing is certain: the errors, great or small, cannot be corrected nor covered-up with lies.
Nature corrects them, one way or another.

Abrahamism absorbs this cost as a byproduct of its sinful suffering.
Suffering is a consequence of its faithfulness and commitment to the shared lie; a necessary consequence of its inverted 'truth'.
Error is incorporated into a vague concept called 'evil', and projected upon a hidden otherness.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:25 pm

The right to forgiveness is the right to forgetting, and forgetting the costs - and the costs of forgetting those costs. The same can be achieved if one is 'chosen' or part of 'some elect'.

The weak can think themselves earning more than they do by ignoring the forces at work protecting them from consequences.
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:49 pm

How did man create spirituality?
He was faced with the unknown, and feeling distressed projected in it hat he knew: Himself.

But then he discovered a better trick inventing Nihilism starting, in the west, with Abrahamic spirituality called Religion.
When faced with the world he did not like, even if he knew, he inverted it.
He took his experiences with what he had known and it did not satisfy him, nor did it quell his fears by projecting himself in it, and he reversed it in his mind.
That's why Nihilism is inversion and entirely linguistic, because the inversion is the opposite of what is experienced and exists as a thought, in the human brain....wit the only possible externalization of this esoteric desire, being through symbols - words.

It is positive because it makes man feel good. Makes the coward feel brave, the desperate mind feel hope, the needy mind feel satisfied.But it is also nihilistic because it negates the experienced because it is an inversion of it.
Who but slaves would seek find in such methods their theoretical salvation?
Is it surprising that the majority follows?
Not if you take into account how overpopulation is the product of human intervention upon natural processes....including the natural herd cleansing process of culling.

Peterson is distressed because the herd is now so numerous that it is drowsing out health and reason.
It is unbalancing natural environments, by supporting artificial environments that are now reaching the point where they need more resources and more interventions to prop them up.
The lie is imploding.
What happens when a herd is artificially maintained and sheltered allowing it to devastate the landscape?
Not only is nature unbalanced, but the herd begins to suffer from mutations that accumulate to produce dis-ease.
There are physical diseases, and with an organism using words to express its neurological tensions, there are memetic diseases.
Cultural Marxism is a symptom of this memetic dis-ease.
Nothing can stop its spread within the herd except devastation.

When herbivores reach a population level not supported by the environment the carnivorous predators rise in number, and diseases and hunger increase, natural environments being unbalanced by over-harvesting.
Then the herds decline, and along with them the predators, who turn on themselves to deal with the reduction in prey.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:16 pm

Spirituality evolved as all ideas evolve, alongside the development of human awareness of self and world.
In its primitive form man projected into the unknown the little self-knowledge he had, compensating for the rest by synthesizing obscure, vague abstractions, projecting into them his deepest desires (eros) and fears (thymos).
In this way he gradually converted the source of his anxiety into something more intimate. Something he could relate to.

Nihilistic inversion was created when he gave-up on finding the absolutes he needed to make sense of his anxiety and his suffering.
He declared the world 'negative' because it failed to satisfy his need for absolute order, certainty, love, peace, and was void of meaning, purpose and God.

Abrahamic God is not the same as Indo-European, named pagan, gods.
It is, in fact, the contradiction to them.
He is defined in all things as their reverse - symbolically negating them and the world they symbolized.



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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:24 pm

Using the Christian narrative we can conclude that God, as they understand and define the word, is a cuck, who uses biological, corporeal, males to fornicate and impregnate his wives....all the females that have ever or will ever be born.
As retribution, he sends a copy of himself, a spiritual noetic copy to fornicate and impregnate another's wife....so he intervenes on the cuckolding to produce a version of himself.
Joseph is no cuck....he is the bull that has been pushed aside for the cuck to do his duty.

That's if you take their god seriously.

From a pagan perspective, yeah Joseph is a cuck who bought the lie that his wife got pregnant by a spirit
A lot of lying going on.

Joseph wants to buy the lie because that way he is not a cuck but the bull, who got pushed aside for the deed of fertilization before he was returned to his duties of fucking Mary, instead of god doing so.
In reality Joseph is the cuck, raising another's sperm, because the truth might kill him.
Mary is the whore who comes up with a lie to cover her slutty ways.
if she has been raped she would have aborted the child, but she chooses to lie and keep it.....forcing Joseph to leave the village where the cuckolding took place, and then fabricating a cuck-amamie  story to tell Joseph, which he accepts because the truth would kill him.

That's how Jesus takes upon himself the 'sins of the world', and 'saves it' from the truth.
Primordial sin, is this promiscuity requiring lies to maintain its 'purity'.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:12 pm

We know how Abrahamic minds think
To them objectivity means absolute.
So, the death of god, means a free-fr-all that can only be controlled by social rules, and social rules are authoritarian if they do not use collective consensus - Democracy.

They have no evolved out of Marxism nor have progressed above Abrahamic dogma, they've only changed the words they use to describe the same concepts, vague as they may be.

So, God is replaced by State...and then State is replaces with...wait for it....Humanity.
The absolute authority of God, is substituted by the collective authority of Humanity.
before that we have to follow the path...
No God means absolute chaos....there is no truth , all perspectives are equally valid there is no way to determine anything for certain.....and what is the Savior?
Yes...Jesus renamed Humanity...for he came to redeem man.
In the chaos, the majority decides which perspective will be considered true...for a while,. before another takes its place.

So absolute ORDER, named God, is denied and absolute CHAOS, named freedom, takes its place...but freedom is destructive, confusing...so a method to reach a consensus is needed.
A good lie.
Majority vote....and so reality shifts generation to generation, depending o the collective judgment of the masses.
We all know how brilliant the masses have been throughout history.
Always Modern, in their own time.
Always open to whimsy and suggestion to shift their judgments.
Need, subjective desire, what is tending, all part of progress.
Market forces in other words, because Marxism is part of the Capitalist paradigm.

When a degenerate uses the word 'objectivity' or 'truth' he can only mean it from within his diseased paradigm....if not absolute one, then absolute nil.
These retards cannot process gradations, fluidity....they lack the artistry.
All things are either ONE or NIL....they cannot even understand how the words absolute and truth can mean relative certainty, in relation to a multitude of possibilities, or express conviction, or refer to precedent and conventions.
They can only think in absolute....binary....dualism.....primitive on/off manimalism.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:24 pm

They intentionally trap themselves because they do not want to face the probabilities.
They've lost confidence in their judgments, their ability to perceive patterns and to take action, accepting the risks, the costs.
They prefer to bury themselves alive....to become [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]than face the real, under the sun, walking the earth.....walking upon the earth.
They want to die but are too cowardly to do it.....they hope to die but are too shameless to leave anyone alive.
They want to bury the world along with themselves, because the idea that they failed, that they could not see, and could not find meaning and purpose worth fighting for, shames them.
They want to make everyone like them....the virus wants to infect.
Do not trust your mind, your senses.....your own eyes.
All is ONE, or all is NONE.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:39 am

Judaism
God = judge
Believer = Chosen - judged and accepted.
Unbeliever = not chosen - judged and rejected.

Ontological circularity.
God judges that which It created based on how it has exercised its own judgment.
Judgment judges judgment.

Christianity
God = love
Believer = he who is loved and accepts, submit to it.
Non-Believer = he who is loved and rejects, does not surrender to it - hate = Satan - the one who rejects love's loving.

Christian ontology
Circular
Love loving love.
Self-loving.

Future considerations
Replace the word 'judge' and/or 'love' with a new word - a different verb and/or noun.

Nihilistic "Ontology".
Mind thinks itself into existence, or mind thinks mind as existence.
Thinking thinks thoughts thinking thoughts...and so on.

Self-referential, circular, solipsistic.

In all these examples a trait belonging to a conscious organism is presented as divine.
Judgment is made into God, as is love, or any other word - will is another.
Human is another.
The organism places itself at the top, either directly or indirectly, through association.
Subjectivity self-flattering, self-comforting.....narcissistic arrogance.
Life is the epitome, the divine.
Life living life is ontology that applies to all. Life is omnipresent, omniscient, omniscient....in potential.
Everything is alive....panpsychism.
Everything is judging, loving, living...
Abrahamism for the future.
Everything is god.
Life is the illusion of independence, or distinctiveness - being is the expression of Being.
God manifesting in all - a singularity of multiplicity.
God is reborn as idea(l) - whole, complete, perfect, one, eternal, immutable.
Change is god enjoying himself enjoying. Creating himself as creator.
Salve morality.
Individuality is dependent, a false representation, a shadow of the supreme Being.
Consciousnesses is his Consciousness conceiving itself.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 am

The above is an example of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
You begin with the noetic abstraction, the idea/ideal, and then you invert it, and/or you project it as an occult, hidden reality.
The noumenon, the idea, represented by the word/symbol, usurps, in the mind of the believers, the real, the phenomenon.
What is sensually perceived, experienced is irrelevant if it cannot be integrated into the idea/ideal.
'First came the word'....and the word was God....or absolute, or the idea/ideal.
The word 'god' can be replaced by other words, depending on the kinds of people you want to seduce and to manipulate.
The thought precedes the mind that thinks it. The noumenon precedes the phenomenon.

This is nihilistic inversion.
All existence is inverted.  
Inverted pyramid....man is not at the pinnacle of a vast expanding base, but is the singular base to a vast expanding pinnacle.
Man's mind is the singularity through which the absolute expresses itself - world is the human mind's creation. He sees himself everywhere.
Humanity is world.
All is subjective.

This self-flattering arrogant narcissism, is sop seductive that few can resist its 'promise'.
The downtrodden, the desperate, the lost, the feeble, the inferior, the unintelligent, all find in it hope - their own brand of salvation.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:13 am

Aryanism is the antithesis of this kind of 'thinking', emoting.
It begins with the sensually perceived and experienced, and moves outward and upward.
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It builds probabilities, ordering.....becoming, and uses precedent, what has already been collected, evaluated and integrated into a harmonious model, as a grounding to find balance in the flux = (inter)acting repelling/attracting order and chaos.
Man is god emerging....but not constructing out of his mind whatever pleases him, but in relation to world.

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