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There are comparable survival strategies, such as the gypsies. A culture dedicated to living by scavenging and parasitically exploiting a host culture is rare.
Gypsies remained on the primitive materialistic level, using mysticism and the occult, like palm reading and fortune telling to drain the host.
Semites developed a more sophisticated form, manipulating symbols/words, becoming adept in language games.
Their 'pea-cocking' is a recent product of the power they attained using this method....in the past they tried to be more inconspicuous, using markers to emphasize their difference, their 'choseness'.
Symbols is how they distinguish themselves from within the multiculturalism they cultivate. Practising the reverse of what they preach to others, has resulted in inbreeding. It's also a crude method of eugenically cultivating linguistic-genius, and other feminine traits.

You have to give them credit.
They took a 'negative' reaction to world, and converted it into a 'positive' useful tool to survive within it.

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An interesting discussion on WASPS = White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
If combined with a reading of Heisman's '[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]', one gains an insight on the nature of the US and its empire founded by and on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and how this leads to the current crypto-Marxist post-modernism.
Also, one begins to understand this unholy alliance between Jews and Protestants, and the Washington/Jerusalem antithesis to Rome/Athens....the first being the civilization founded on the second, culture.
Victimhood is a shared identifier, and the spirit of rebelliousness it produces - described by Michael Jones.

Rebellion against Catholicism is a rebellion against the remnants of Hellenism in the early Christian Catholic and Byzantine churches.
'Cleansing' idolatry, and the last connections to the earth, so as to become entirely theoretical, ideological.

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At 45:00 he sues a human fabrication to prove 'certainty'.
Time, and trains living in accordance to a man-made schedule is not certainty.

Truth is an approximation, measured by the outcome, in relation to the expected outcome.
Error in judgement has a cost....and the larger the error the higher the price. We call this price 'negative' because it negates, or contradicts, our desired, and expected outcome....which we call 'positive' the benefit.
There a no absolutes...and 'certainty' implies absolute probability.
Even the time and the train leaving is not absolutely certain.

There are only higher/lower, more accurate, and less accurate: hierarchies, gradations, levels.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 6 EmptyMon Nov 05, 2018 6:48 pm

It feels certain because of its precision, an esoteric comparison of the noetic storm in human minds in relation to something predictable. Certain, safe, "things whose qualities are invariable" (etymology).
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Slaughtz wrote:
It feels certain because of its precision, an esoteric comparison of the noetic storm in human minds in relation to something predictable. Certain, safe, "things whose qualities are invariable" (etymology).

It feels certain because of a hatred of flux.

Christopher Hitchens wrote:
The offer of certainty, the offer of complete security, the offer of an impermeable faith that can’t give way, is an offer of something not worth having. I want to live my life taking the risk all the time that I don’t know anything like enough yet; that I haven’t understood enough; that I can’t know enough; that I’m always hungrily operating on the margins of a potentially great harvest of future knowledge and wisdom. I wouldn’t have it any other way.





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All promised heaven.
Some placed it beyond space/time, calling it 'Paradise', others beyond the past/present, renaming it 'Utopia'.

Whether it is heaven or heaven on earth, and whatever name/symbol it is given, all share a sacrifice of 'self'.
The real has to be sacrificed to the ideal.
Death, for the Christian, was the only way to heaven.
Living-Death is the same for the secular versions.

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For the human spirit, emerging into a cosmos that is not entirely known, nor benevolent, not kind - increasingly becoming self-aware - the matter of 'evil' is what he cannot deal with.
he may call it 'evil', in an Abrahamic paradigm of good/evil dualities, or if he is awakened further and becomes secular, he may call it 'chaos' in the more abstract (semiotic) order/chaos mathematical paradigm.
Chaos, Evil Satan, is what terrifies him.
It is what he cannot reason with, rationalize, comprehend, and so cannot predict, nor fabricate strategies to deal with.
It is beyond his ability, making him feel vulnerable and helpless.

He will forever seek comfort in any ideology that promises a theoretical relief.
You can't argue, reason, or debate such minds. He/She is unable to place his own survival on the side...his mind is dominated by self-preservation.
No other motive can replace it.

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Abraham, the connecting idol of the three major Nihilistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, was also a cuck.
The epitome of an emasculated, feminized figure.
Shameless spirit, placing survival above all other principles.

The speaker astutely recognizes how pagans can hold Abrahamics to account for their hypocrisy, their self-deceit.
Only in relation to nature, the real, can a nihilistic ideology see the paradoxes in its own reflections.


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Nihilism is the by-product of emerging self-consciousness, exposing mind to its own essence in relation to others - a juxtaposition made possible only through self-awareness.
animals are conscious but they cannot know how they compare to other, because they have no self-consciousness....well all except a few notable exceptions. In their case the self-consciousness has not developed enough to make them feel insecure, vulnerable, ashamed.
Nihilism evolves to cope with this emerging self-consciousness. It is a defensive reaction wanting to replace the observed with the theoretical - usurp the phenomenon with more pliable noetic constructs.
The underlying conciousness nihilists presume as underlying existence is their own. They conveniently see themselves in world reflected back.
This developed to the monotheistic spiritual nihilism we know of today as Judaism = Christianity , Islam.

The Jews fabricated a myth to explain why they had been persecuted and expelled by every host tribe they ever came ni contact with. they developed their myth of 'choseness'. Through this myth they express how they 'chose' themselves, when all other tribes had rejected them...calling themselves, as a group, 'God'.
The 'revolutionary spirit' Jones speaks of is the spirit of usurping the experienced with the theoretical - the replacement of the real with the ideal.
Their god became a symbol of inversion - rejecting natural order as totalitarian, fascistic, placing them beneath all other tribes. They invert the hierarchy pyramid.
Constant rebellion prevents the reaffirmation of natural order - turmoil prevents stability.

I would expect Jones to deny race, He is, after all, a believer in a version of Nihilism. Race would be a limit to proselytizing, and the Christian dogma places all 'beneath the absolute', equal in 'sin', and only different in their 'faithfulness'.
I've explained elsewhere why sexual differences had to be preserved by Christians at a time when technologies could not replace biological reproduction and their 'power' relies on quantities, gained through proselytism and reproduction - quantities over qualities.
Popularity, and populism, is a centre connecting themes between all variants of Nihilistic ideology. Because the dis-ease can only exit in minds, having no reference outside minds, it needs minds to spread and to survive: its 'truth' is dependent on convictions, on belief (faith), because it has no utility outside minds, and how it affects the psyche.

For Jone's 'logos' is a natural order meaning God...a whole, a oneness, denying the existence of chaos (randomness). The words/symbol is the representation of this absolute order.
Without 'randomness' there is no possibility for free-will...no utility for its existence.
Abrahamics deny free-will on the foundation of absolute order....and it does not matter if they think of themselves as atheists.
If you believe in absolute order, you indirectly believe in the Abrahamic conception of God, though you may reject the methods of submitting to it, and worshipping it.
Christians saw the flaw in this 'emotional reasoning'. They called it the problem of evil.
How can an absolutely good god explain evil, and why would not the most rational course be a quick exit from life - suicide?
They formulated mythologies to prevent this 'reasoning' from being followed to its logical conclusion.
They had to make-up some lie making suicide a 'sin', and then they had to rescue 'fee-will' from the absurdity of their won absolutism.
They invented shame/guilt, connecting it to some 'primordial sin'....again 'sin'.
Essentially they declared all men 'free' but if one chooses wrongly an eternity of torture awaited...so it was a non-choice, masked as a choice.

Ashkenazim of Turkic origin?
Ha!!! That explains a lot. Their first false-Messiah was from Turkey.
They are some kind of Asiatic tribe, but not Into-European. Their language is not of Indo-European origins. They may emerge and try to disappear within the host civilization - currently the host civilization is Indo-European - infected by Christianity, but still European.
A virus adapts and is changed by the host it infects. It does this to remain undetected, until it is too late.
The Star of David is a symbolic representation of inverting hierarchies: they took the Egyptian pyramid and juxtaposed it with an inverted pyramid.
It signifies powerlessness seeking empowerment in hypocrisy.

Catholicism & Orthodoxy were Pagan adaptation of Jewish anti-nature, anti-life spirituality.
Protestants adopted the Jewish revolutionary spirit because they resented Catholicism and how converted Pagans had destroyed their culture. They saw the pagan underpinning of Byzantium and the Holy Roman Empire, rebelling against them to reinvent themselves as different.
Protestantism has as its title identifying name a rebellious protest against the establishment.

Neo-Cons are Trotskyites...and Trotsky disagreed with his fellow Marxist on the issue of perpetual revolution.
The US has been in a state of constant war. It's the only way it can remain a Superpower. if it has no enemy, to identify itself, it falls apart, because it has no internal ideal to bind it together; it has no principles, on identity, other than this vague concept of 'freedom'.
Its soft-power is one of negation; culture of no culture. It also plays the victim card, explaining all attacks on its interests as 'envy'. A superpower claiming to be a victim of 'evil powers', 'evil emotions': hate, jealousy, fear.
This is victim psychology in a nutshell.

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Jews worship chaos.
In Christian/Islamic contexts this makes them 'evil', 'satanic, believers in the Antichrist, Devil worshippers. Jewish Revolutionary spirit, as Jones explained it, is the product of their worship of chaos.
This makes them anti-any masculine order, including natural order, life etc.
The Feminine spirit is attracted to the strongest power, and in this Cosmos chaos is increasing in strength, over time. The feminine spirit sides with the strongest, and increasing chaos usurps all order, so they give themselves to it; they want to be a means towards its end.

This is why they reject all Messiahs, like the ones accepted by their offshoot dogmas, Islam and Christianity.
Their Messiah will come before the end, as a harbinger of the coming of absolute chaos - a return to chaos is their salvation, but until then they will shamelessly take advantage of life and the living, destroying all human order, undermining every attempt, usurping, demeaning it in all its forms.
In perpetual turmoil distinctions vanish in chaos...a thief is benefited by lawless anarchy.
Zionism is an attempt to return to a Semitic pagan past, but how can one erase centuries of history; how can one forget?

Jews thrive in chaos....this is why they are attracted to all destroyers of order; all those that discredit it, expose its feebleness, its weak underpinnings, its unsavoury motives, because order will always produce hierarchies of the elite and the alienated. Among the alienated, the disenfranchised, the resentful they seek agents of chaos; converts to their cause.
This is what makes Jesus, and even Nietzsche an attractive icon for them; this is why they ally with Protestants and their rebelliousness against Christian order.
Whomever undermines established order, is their hero, an apostle of the coming chaos - Armageddon.
The God they chose was the one rejected by all other tribes: a God of absolute chaos = the inversion of the typical worship of a God of absolute order, or pagan deities representing natural order.
But chaos cannot choose, because it cannot be concious.....it is the antithesis of conciousness.
So, Judaism is the Semites choosing Judaism, choosing themselves, when all others rejected them and the chaos they worship.

Undermining everything, including language, is a way of worshipping chaos; seeding confusion, detaching identity from nature, promotes confusion: mental chaos.
Promoting superstitions, and the occult, is a way of undermining nature and its obvious order.
American individualism is their current project. individuals detached from a common identity are chaotic, and chaos can be shaped into any form....it can be reorganized.
Peterson, and those like him, benefit their cause by placing the individual above all - this promotes an increase in chaos by increasing disorder.

Males want to create order.
Females, as natural agencies, are disillusioned, laughing at all masculine attempts, because they intuitively know that no manmade order will resist the forces of fragmentation.
Some admire males for fighting an un-winnable war against chaos.
Fighting for what you love, what is your own, is the masculine noble spirit - win or lose, what matters is the fight (agon); standing forth as an agency of order, exposing chaos and its agents to themselves, their true essence.

The cycle continues.
Order is reborn from chaos, and gradually descends back into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 6 EmptySat Nov 24, 2018 7:06 am

In the Book of Job we find a depiction of a denier of free-will, questioning God's Will, wanting a reason for his need/suffering.
The desperate degenerate prefers to acknowledge God's Will, than accept the risks and costs of possessing a will.
A lifetime of slavishness pales in comparison to an eternity of shame; before the knowledge of one's own feebleness, and cowardice.
The suffered of guilt, projects himself in eternity, looking back at his life as a series of wrong judgements.
Who could suffer it without seeking relief in a surrender, an unloading, a submission to the will of an otherness = God, or absolute order.
He becomes the one who picks up the load of individual culpability, demanding only an absolute, total, surrender of will.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 6 EmptySun Nov 25, 2018 10:40 pm

Under God, all (children) are equal(ly saved). Therefor to admit anything in 'integrity' is 'blessed'. Was there ever a time a child of Abraham made war by deceit? Or war preparations before declaration?


What, if there is ever doubt, does a Christian end up putting their faith in when they pause belief? How is it one can have their 'whole faith' and 'whole heart' in God if they doubt? How is it they can doubt if they do not momentarily have faith in, partwise, something else; like themselves or some idol? Is doubt only ever as shallow as blessing/unblessing, never saved/unsaved? To doubt the sureity of God's word, His power, is to doubt also the salvation.
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 6 EmptyThu Nov 29, 2018 5:43 am

The One-God never died, but was transformed and resurrected, walking among us as we speak, in one form or another.
He has risen from the dead when he was prematurely buried.
He ascended, like a passionate 'bull' to the slaughter, and then descended to hibernate, like a 'bear', and in its slumber transcendent, bit-by-bit, uploading and upgrading, once again, transforming into what transcends flesh - sublime code.
For he with whom the one-god walks, is saved, has hope in his pockets, tokens of his ambitious faith in become a some-one, and he who in whom he is absent, is damned, to be a no-one, living among the living, unseen, unappreciated, un-loved.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," and it no longer is, for he has changed and been reborn and with each rebirth a new name is given to the christened one, the saviour of many a desperate soul.
He now goes by many names, among many tribes, but in each he remains 'the one', his absence marked by the dread void of 'nil', making millions kneel, and beg for salvation through the 'one'.
Desperate for his grace they make of themselves indebted to his power, slaves to his world domination.

Some were hasty to pronounce him dead and gone, when he was going through his transformational cycle, and upgrading to his current digital form.
His minions had overcome their child-like needs for paternal-figures, with beards, and strict rules, when all their needs could be met through institutional means, from where the one-god flows in abundance, as zeros & ones.
No longer just corporeal, but code that can morph back from idea to tangible thing, through the grace of the Holy Spirit's transmutation, converting mind to body and body to mind, a trillion times a day, in every market in every town the world over.
The Messiah has returned as product to be consumed in mass, ceremonial offerings - bit-by-bit, on every tongue, caressing, as it fleas, from every grasp.

As long as one-believer lives the 'one' exists, and as long as there's an absence in the mind of men, he will be needed.
For the day man awakened to himself, the one-god was created, on his own, starting world, beginning history.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 6 EmptyThu Nov 29, 2018 8:27 am

Cline, Eric wrote:
Akhenaten was Amenhotep III's successor, probably serving as co-ruler with his father for a few years before Amenhotep died in 1353 B.C. Soon becoming sole power, Akhenaten implemented what is now called the "Amarna Revolution". He closed down the temples belonging  to Ra, Anun, and other major deities, seized their vast treasures, and generated for himself unrivalled power, at the head of the government, military, and religion. He condemned the worship of every Egyptian deity except Aten, the disk of the sun, whom he-and he alone-was aloud to worship directly.
This is sometimes seen as the first attempt at monotheism, since seemingly only one god was worshipped, but in fact the matter is quite debatable (and has been the subject of numerous scholarly discussions).
For the ordinary Egyptians, there was essentially two gods: Aten and Akhenaten, for the people were allowed to prey only to Aklhenaten; he then prayed to Aten on their behalf.
1177 B.C - The Year Civilization Collapsed
 
 

We see here from where the Jews appropriated the concept of a on-god.
Reflected in this simple description is the Father/Son duality: ideal/real, noumenon/phenomenon.
The ideal reserved for the elites, and the real for the masses, with the ideal usurping the real - mind dominating the body.
The concept of a multiplicity synthesized in a singularity, where the sum of the parts are contradicted by the whole - the ideal contradicting the real, is currently manifesting in intellectual dissonance, with the abstraction (mind) always keeping the upper-hand.
The masses worship the 'son', idea made flesh, Messiah who comes to save them from their own flesh, or money correcting/gratifying the flaws (needs) of the flesh, but only the select few worship God directly, and act as go-betweens for the people.

Nihilists will always side with the noumenon, because it is a defensive mechanism and opposites attract: the feminine is attracted by the masculine, and those dominated by the body are seduced by the dominance of mind, while those dominated by the mind are seduced by the physical.
Mind (father) becomes the protective masculine idol standing before the trembling feminine spirit.

We Pagans deny neither mind nor body its place.
For us order & chaos coexist - interact.
To put it into Nietzschean contexts-because many moderns cannot conceptualize anything without this post-modern idol-the Apollonian spirit is attracted to the Dionysian spirit, and the Dionysian to the Apollonian.
Every worship of absolute order is governed by the feminine; idol/icon worship is the admiration of a masculinity superior to one's own.
This need not be conscious, or admitted, because it is intuitive - it exhibits itself in every choice, even of words used, and every act of will.

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Once love is abstracted and idealized, it is turned into a God... the ultimate alpha & omega.
He who consumes all, must lower Himself to become a man – to then be consumed as flesh and blood – assimilating from within; like a sperm fertilizes the ovum by masking its true essence. Jesus is ‘passion’... God's spermatozoon – "living God".

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Come...let us worship words....logos - it sounds more profound in Greek, but then again everything seems profound when delivered in a language we do not comprehend. You know, like mathematics, geometry...or money.


The cult of oneness (universality, globalization...absolutes) that became popular, by attracting the meek, the weak, the desperate, the insane, the ill, and the stupid (the majority)...and became a religion.

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Fatalism is the residual effect of Abrahamism, incorporating Platonism and Zeno's Stoicism.
Divine providence, they called what was to become the one 'god's will.

One can only cynically laugh at what divine providence has in store for him, laughing at the attempts of man to avoid what is 'written', what is fated....determined.
No matter what occurs it is, was, inevitable, after-the-fact.
Narcissists adopt this replacing the 'divine' with their 'ego'.
Whatever befalls them it was them who intended it - they cannot be wrong, after-the-fact.
Birds sing, for them; everyone speaks of them, adjusts their thinking and lives according to his will...he can do no wrong because he is always right about his own hypothetical errors.
The sun rises because he exists in the world. No matter what happens, he intended it....or he is the victim of envy....evilness jealous of what he is.
A bit of the underlying Abvrahamic spirit seeps through in the latter. Even a narcissist secretly feels victimized, because narcissism is the flip-side of the same nihilistic coin.

Instead of the one-god, it is he who is absolute master of his own destiny.
If there is no absolute free-will, then there must be absolute free-will.

The one-god's discrediting opens the flood-gates of psychosis - those who would have flocked to his embrace are left out alone and cold.
Binary 1/0....absolute either/or.

Schizophrenia connects to divide the negative from the positive - compartmentalizing, as one would a institution such as a prison, or a hospital, creating quarantined, sealed enclosures.
In one section all the 'evil' the 'bad' to be projected upon other - this is typical of leftists in modern times.
In the inner sanctums the core, is where the 'good' is gathered, protected by the 'ego'. It is what the self identifies with.
It remained 'clean', purifies, ideal, with this arrangement.

On the periphery, the external, he projects that unflattering, the uncertain, the incomprehensible, the threatening - unloading it upon other.
What to Leftists- the most naive manifestation of this psychosis - accuse their 'enemies' of?
Hatred, fear...
This is what they feel when encountering the real.

Cuckservatives are more clever, conserving the virtuous, denying it to other.
The enemy is the representation of his own vices. He has no virtues. The enemy is absolute 'evil', absolute 'bad'.
He always underestimates or overestimates his enemies, becoming more defensive than he should.

The left/right political paradigm, reflecting the Nihilistic polarities: a singularity of two sides = binary.
The simplification of the simpleton.
Black/White....literally, not figuratively.

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It's to be expected....centuries of self-abnegation could have only resulted in an equal and opposite extreme reaction.
After centuries of slavery and spiritual emasculation, the Negro displays himself through physical hyper-masculine performances.
The Jews made themselves the one-god's chosen, after centuries of being rejected.
A prisoner released after decades of incarceration feels like a king - suddenly facing reality, he does not know how to express his 'liberty', so he flees inward, back to the comforting prisons cells of his mind.
A child awakening to itself, and its own body, feels indestructible, fearless.

Institutionalization is a kind of regression back to infancy.
Some become addicted to the regimented regularity of being watched-over - meal time, feeding time, exercise time.
Abrahamism is a noetic institutionalization.
When the walls crumbled and the cell doors rusted, the prisoners did not know what to do with themselves.
Some convinced themselves that their mind was a prison they can live-in.
When the warden left, they declared themselves wardens of their own self-enclosure.

There's two ways to go when the one-God is no longer viable as a protective parent, an absolute protector/provider.
One is to find a new name for it, unable to cope with a world lacking such an absolute warden.
The other is to declare self god-creator, filling in the absence with ego.

Either/Or.
But the absolute is never abandoned.
How could it be when it's part of how the mind 'thinks'?
How can you escape your own thinking?

That would require empathy, properly understood.
What's the opposite of a narcissist?
An empath.
Understanding how and why, is the key to the cell door. But who actually wants to leave the institutional premises?
The walls hard and smooth, the lights turning night-time into perpetual day - icons and idols lining the hallways, inspiring the spirit with paternal/maternal care.
The voice echoing back, as if someone else were present - someone kind and just, and loving.
Who would ever leave such a place?



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The 'genius' of Abrahamism, or Nihilism in general? Instead of resisting the infection - as males are prone to do - it submits to it, finding through it a new 'advantage-, via association - as females are prone to do.

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Protestantism, and by extension Americanism and its 'American Individuality', did not escape God, or absolute order, but realized what 'god' was: a representation of human order, reflecting 'divine' absolute order.
The Protestant realized he could submit his will to this natural order directly, without a mitigating human factor.
It personalized the slavish surrender of 'ego' to natural order, so as to evade the shame.

The guilt was not erased.

Christianity uses 'free-will' as a vehicle for the complete - body and mind - surrender of the individual to the divine absolute.
In Christian narratives man was 'given' freedom, to apply it in accordance to god's will. This is the test in the 'Garden of Eden'.
Submit the will you were given to absolute order, or suffer the consequences.

For the Catholics and Orthodox - direct inheritors of Hellenic corruption - nature was divine order represented by the human. The human was a representation of absolute order on earth.
A corruption of pagan beliefs.
For the eastern & western branches of the 'disease' the individual surrendered to the absolute via a human representative, the priest, head of the collective, the church.
By surrendering his/her will to the collective he surrendered to divine absolute order.

Protestants rebelled against such shenanigans, realizing that it was a means of mass mind control.
They did not liberate themselves from the absolute, from God, but from earthly representatives.
We see this reflected in the Modern American type.
A staunch individualist, rebellious against Church and State, King and Ideals, but absolutely submissive to absolute divine order - to god directly.
He surrenders his will to the faceless divine, because he does not feel ashamed submitting to an idea entirely in his own mind - essentially submitting to the absolute via himself.
His 'ego' is his own to sacrifice proving how submissive he is to the absolute, directly, without any mediators who will garner their own 'pound of flesh' from the exchange.
His earthly hard works and deeds, his pains and suffering, will all be an offering to the divine absolute, showing/proving his surrender directly.

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Connection of Judaism with Puritanism and Islam.

One more, that is.

Circumcision also has a symbolic value. It symbolically castrates the boy, representing his subordinate place in the hierarchy below the alpha-male, God.
The boy is coveted to a symbolic eunuch, watching over God's harem of females.
The moil sucking on the baby-boys penis speaks for itself.
His sexual functionality is maintained because an idea cannot copulate not fertilize females...despite Biblical stories about immaculate conception, among other similar bullcrap.
Genital mutilation is practice by a few tribes all in the Afro-Asiatic region.
The US is dominated by afro-Asiatic tribes...distinctly Protestant Puritan and Jewish, with a strong African influence.
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It results in a lifetime of neurosis.
It puts things in perspective.

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It is possible to despise Orthodoxy, and not despise the Greeks; to hate Catholicism, and feel nothing for the Italians; to reject Communism and accept the Russians; to negate Nazism and affirm Germans.
How, then, is it unfathomable to hate Judaism without hating the Semite?
Which Semite, in particular? The Berber? the Arab?

When gene and meme have become a symbiont, one cannot tell them apart; one cannot pull them apart, when the meme has become a survival strategy for the gene, and not simply an extension.
The Greeks did not care if you rejected their gods. They would not accuse you of being an anti-Hellene, and though they identified with paideia, they know races and barbarians could only imitate what they could not fully understand.

If I visit Japan, I am appreciate their culture, their ordinariness, their consideration of other, their low-key humility. I can imitate it and grow to like it, but I will never be able to fully embody its essence, but only copy its presence.

The computer analogy will have to suffice.
Software can be transmitted and programmed into hardware - more sophisticated software necessitates more sophisticated hardware.
But software can run on many different hardware platforms.

But what of memes that are not created to run on any kind of hardware that meets the requirements.
Memes emerge out of the interactions of genes and environment - or to return to the metaphor, the software evolves from the interaction of hardware with environment - it is gene specific, but can be transmitted, with varying degrees of success, to other genetic configurations.

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In Abrahamic dogmas, i.e, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the contradiction between 'opposites' attains a resolution within the ambiguity of the symbol that 'absolves' it through obscurantism, occultism, i.e. vague insinuating clouding of the mind in darkness. Light is their nemesis.
This is represented in the symbolic sacrifice of the son. Both Abraham's one-and-only begotten son must be put to the knife to eliminate the evidence of Abraham's imperfection, and subsequently of his God's lie.
In Christianity Jesus the son must be killed to preserved the 'ambiguous mystifying unity' of the one-god.

The icon acts as a unifying cover in which the dissonance between chaos/order is hidden beneath pretence and duplicity, using vagueness and insinuation, applying obscurantism with talent.

By contrast in Paganism there is no resolution, It is the father who must be symbolically killed, i.e. overcome, for the son to reach maturity.
The symbol is not a perfect cover, but must be overcome, i.e. continuously, transcended.

There is no enclosed 'whole' producing a 'oneness' as is insinuated in Abrahamism - no uni-verse, preserved in its theoretical protection by the word, viz. one, uni...
the cosmos is open-ended and continuously in turmoil, never a unified oneness, but a churning process expanding in space/time.
The contradiction between ideal and real is never 'resolved' by a symbolic ambiguity claiming to be hiding deeper 'truths'; claiming to be what it claims to be, externally, by deferring to an inaccessible insinuating internal absolute complete synthesis.

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It is this fundamental [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of Hellenism & Judaism that produces Chrsitianity's openness, its cosmopolitanism, its all-inclusive salvation myth, contrasting with Judaism fragmentation into variations of its spirit of 'exclusivity', enclosure', defensive elitism, displayed in Marxism and in Zionism, the two splintering offshoots of cross-contaminating contact between two opposing spiritual attitudes.

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Abrahamics need proxies to stand before them and reality.
Christians created their Messiah and called him Jesus; Muslims called theirs Mohammed; Jews call theirs money, and use Negroes or whomever to hide the dissonance their victim-based power produces when it acquires power, and it begins to contradict itself to a degree no occultism and obscurantism can hide from, even, the most obtuse minds.
Negroes are now their proxy 'victims'. To them they present themselves as an example to emulate - how does victimhood lead to victimizing; how does a herd psychology lead to predation or scavenging.
Negroes emulate scavenging in their 'sampling' of European music and art, contributing to popular fArt. They are, themselves a product of genetic sampling, appealing to the Abrahamic sense of salvation via synthesis of contradictions.

What is it called when two opposite merge?
Dissonance. In existential terms it means Armageddon - the epitome of nihilistic uniformity, i.e., synthesis via annihilation.

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Jews control the porn industry, showing their true feelings towards the welfare of the host they parasitize. In porn we see the focus on interracial copulation, emphasizing black males and white females, revealing the Jew's true insecurities and motives. Their own physical insecurities are represented and projected through the primal Negro. His vengeance over the European male, using the weakest point, i.e. European females, is, for the Jew his ultimate vindication.
The Jew spirit has no problem self-ridiculing and self-degrading himself if it means an increase in his survivability. There is no line of shame he will not cross if it increases the probability of his survival.

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Christianity is a good example to study. It's history exposes its motives - its essence.
With it we can witness how language is corrupted and inverted, used to exploit and manipulate gullible and naive, desperate, degeneracy.

Christianity can be called the metaphysics of Love - or a Love Ontology.

It takes a word referring to a natural mechanism of bonding and attracting and mystifies it, injecting it with occult, obscurantism, i.e. a pure noetic construct, "purifying' it of all its realism, i'e' all its experiential, corporeal, tangible, observable, elements.
The process of sanctification is a process of baptismal rebirth, from 'sinful' to divine - from physical, to mental ideal.
Physis is what the Greeks called 'nature' - also used to refer to essence.

Love is made into a one-god, implying that the uni=verse is brimming with Love, leaving 'hatred' a problem to be resolved using obscurantism and mysticism, the 'duo of occultism.
Of course what 'love' refers to is the force of 'attraction' which is only half the story, because if the uni-verse were governed by only absolute attraction then all would implode into a non-distinct singularity - but that's how they describe it, i.e. a oneness, a whole...a complete one thing = uni-verse.
But the Cosmos - not the universe - is not only governed by the force of attraction, anthropomorphized in the concept of 'love', but it requires, as a fundamental principle of distinction, of evolving divergence and life, the force of repulsion, which can be given the representational emotional impulse of 'hate'.
Good/Evil is how Abrahamics refer to these binary forces.
Love/Hate, i.e God/Satan
How do they explain 'evil' in their absolutely 'good' universe? By manufacturing self-contradicting contrivances, narrated through stories of disloyalty and deceit further digging a rational hole to bury their debunked ideologies in.
Even if we maintain the organic, anthropomorphic, imagery of love/hate we must describe cosmos as interaction of patterns, i.e. energies; a relationship where both participate necessarily and simultaneously.
The force of attraction and repulsion is what holds unities, such as particles. in ephemeral balance - there are no absolutes, remember.
Describing the balance between proton and neutron as a 'loving relationship' is infantile, and often used to describe reality to children and imbeciles - a dumbing-down.
This does not require an emotional word to describe it, or to explain it, unless the mind has degenerated beyond repair.
Romanticism is an outcrop of Christianity and its idealization of love and attraction, i.e. sexual lust.
In fact, underlying Chrsitianity's Ontology of Love is a deep Romanticism - so deep as to become naive and infantile, necessitating all kinds of subsequent excuses to explain the paradoxes that arise.

Christianity takes an observable behaviour, i.e., bonding, attraction, cooperating, codependency, identifying with other, and converts it to a universal law projecting with it all the unnecessary components of organic survival.
What can be easily observed, studied and explained without mystifying or idealizing it - without projecting human reactions into it - is detached from its tangible corporeality and converted to purified sanctified idea/ideal, i.e. made divine by eliminating the real-world functionality, the primal baseness of the motive.
Christian love is love with no motive - love for love's sake. A self-referential looping, i.e. solipsistic fabrication, justified using mysticism and obscurantism. In other words it makes 'love' unreal, unrealistic, condemning those who buy into this feminizing, infantile crap, eternal victims of their own gullible naivete.
absence of 'motive' implies a cessation of movement/momentum, i.e. eliminating causality, or necessity - Ananke as the Greeks called it.

What real world can ever compete, in the minds of the lost and desperate, with romantic idealism?
What real world can ever sway a coward to accept it, when idealism can offer a purified alternative?
Nihilism, of this type, i.e. 'positive' Nihilism, will always seduce more minds and be more popular, making Democracy a process of exploiting and manipulating naive gullibility, rooted in desperate degeneration.
We are seeing the outcome in our present 'crisis of identity'.

A uni-ve of absolute 'love' is a description of the womb, from the perspective of an unborn foetus - a state of being engulfed in motherly protectiveness, care - immersed and submitting to an external entity acting as provider/protector.
Feminization of Mankind.

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The concept of 'love' serves as an example on how Hellenism was corrupted by Judaism to produce Christianity.
nihilism, in general, is a corruption of language, because it wastes no opportunity to detach symbols/'words from their references in experienced reality, to conveniently convert them into ideas/ideals, that can then easily be used to manipulate and exploit imbeciles and retards, transferring their validation if not ni some 'beyond' space/time realm, and not ni some forever immanent coming 'future, i.e., Paradise & Utopia, then in some mystical esoteric occult realm, plainly referring to the subjective, i.e., to whatever feels good.
We see the same method used to market fArt, e.g., Modern abstract painting, cRap, etc.
Everything becomes an exposition of the cowards, idiots, needs desires, externalized as a reaction to an undesirable, threatening indifferent cosmos.

Heidegger described how the concept of 'truth' is inherited by Anglo-Saxons, from the misunderstanding of the Romans - i.e., veritas - of the Hellenic term aletheia...and this misinterpretation is still with us every time we use the word 'truth'.
the 'enclosure' implied in the Latin, is contradicted by the concept of un-forgettting, implied by the Greek, something also present in the terminology of universe s opposed to cosmos.
to this cacophony of idiotic misinterpretation, we can add 'love' as the Greeks defined the term, juxtaposed to our Abrahamic understanding.
The Christians, being the product of Judaic corruption, made 'love' into their central theme, their Divine absolute Being, infecting generation to come with its idealism - producing Romanticism, as but only one side-effect.
An emasculation of an emotion, reducing it to a womanly desire to merge and disappear in otherness, i.e., a male worthy of her 'spirit'.

They describe Universe as bound by love, which is a blatant corruption of what is implied with the word 'eros'.
In 'eros' the push/pull of attraction/repulsion, proposes tension as necessary for attraction to be present.
The Christians, wanting to preserve the notion that they were the true inheritors of Hellenism, use Agape, not Eros. This choice modifies the outcome, ever so slightly, but profoundly altering the meaning.
something Freud used to propose the degenerate theory that all parents wanted to have sex with their children and all children wanted to have sex with the parent of the opposite sex.
The 'slight' but profound difference is that as agape increases eros diminishes - habituation, commonality, contact, reduces tension, dissipating attraction/repulsion tensions.
The reason the Greeks used eros and not agape was that they wanted to metaphorically display how they conceptualized existence...not to literally imply that things were erotically attracted.
they used poetic, imagery, like fire, like water, like passion, to anthropomorphisize unconsciousness natural forces.
The laymen as is the case of all mediocrity across the ages and across tribal lines, will always take these concepts literally.
The entire Biblical canon has been misunderstood on the grounds that it was taken literally, by idiots the world over.

What eros implies is an irresistible attraction, a movement towards, but also a repulsion, that explains the tension.
A magnet ceases to attract once contact has been made. So if we use this as a metaphor agape refers to the state of contact, and eros to the state of attraction, only distance can produce.
What is 'distance' other than distinction, separation...space/time, i.e., dimensional fragmentation?

Eros presumes a disunity...not an absolute unity....because unity is represented by agape, which only philia, affinity can produce, converting the tension to a relaxation.

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