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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:23 am

There are comparable survival strategies, such as the gypsies. A culture dedicated to living by scavenging and parasitically exploiting a host culture is rare.
Gypsies remained on the primitive materialistic level, using mysticism and the occult, like palm reading and fortune telling to drain the host.
Semites developed a more sophisticated form, manipulating symbols/words, becoming adept in language games.
Their 'pea-cocking' is a recent product of the power they attained using this method....in the past they tried to be more inconspicuous, using markers to emphasize their difference, their 'choseness'.
Symbols is how they distinguish themselves from within the multiculturalism they cultivate. Practising the reverse of what they preach to others, has resulted in inbreeding. It's also a crude method of eugenically cultivating linguistic-genius, and other feminine traits.

You have to give them credit.
They took a 'negative' reaction to world, and converted it into a 'positive' useful tool to survive within it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm


An interesting discussion on WASPS = White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
If combined with a reading of Heisman's '[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]', one gains an insight on the nature of the US and its empire founded by and on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], and how this leads to the current crypto-Marxist post-modernism.
Also, one begins to understand this unholy alliance between Jews and Protestants, and the Washington/Jerusalem antithesis to Rome/Athens....the first being the civilization founded on the second, culture.
Victimhood is a shared identifier, and the spirit of rebelliousness it produces - described by Michael Jones.

Rebellion against Catholicism is a rebellion against the remnants of Hellenism in the early Christian Catholic and Byzantine churches.
'Cleansing' idolatry, and the last connections to the earth, so as to become entirely theoretical, ideological.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:53 pm



At 45:00 he sues a human fabrication to prove 'certainty'.
Time, and trains living in accordance to a man-made schedule is not certainty.

Truth is an approximation, measured by the outcome, in relation to the expected outcome.
Error in judgement has a cost....and the larger the error the higher the price. We call this price 'negative' because it negates, or contradicts, our desired, and expected outcome....which we call 'positive' the benefit.
There a no absolutes...and 'certainty' implies absolute probability.
Even the time and the train leaving is not absolutely certain.

There are only higher/lower, more accurate, and less accurate: hierarchies, gradations, levels.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:48 pm

It feels certain because of its precision, an esoteric comparison of the noetic storm in human minds in relation to something predictable. Certain, safe, "things whose qualities are invariable" (etymology).
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:04 pm

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It feels certain because of its precision, an esoteric comparison of the noetic storm in human minds in relation to something predictable. Certain, safe, "things whose qualities are invariable" (etymology).

It feels certain because of a hatred of flux.

Christopher Hitchens wrote:
The offer of certainty, the offer of complete security, the offer of an impermeable faith that can’t give way, is an offer of something not worth having. I want to live my life taking the risk all the time that I don’t know anything like enough yet; that I haven’t understood enough; that I can’t know enough; that I’m always hungrily operating on the margins of a potentially great harvest of future knowledge and wisdom. I wouldn’t have it any other way.





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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:49 am

All promised heaven.
Some placed it beyond space/time, calling it 'Paradise', others beyond the past/present, renaming it 'Utopia'.

Whether it is heaven or heaven on earth, and whatever name/symbol it is given, all share a sacrifice of 'self'.
The real has to be sacrificed to the ideal.
Death, for the Christian, was the only way to heaven.
Living-Death is the same for the secular versions.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:52 pm

For the human spirit, emerging into a cosmos that is not entirely known, nor benevolent, not kind - increasingly becoming self-aware - the matter of 'evil' is what he cannot deal with.
he may call it 'evil', in an Abrahamic paradigm of good/evil dualities, or if he is awakened further and becomes secular, he may call it 'chaos' in the more abstract (semiotic) order/chaos mathematical paradigm.
Chaos, Evil Satan, is what terrifies him.
It is what he cannot reason with, rationalize, comprehend, and so cannot predict, nor fabricate strategies to deal with.
It is beyond his ability, making him feel vulnerable and helpless.

He will forever seek comfort in any ideology that promises a theoretical relief.
You can't argue, reason, or debate such minds. He/She is unable to place his own survival on the side...his mind is dominated by self-preservation.
No other motive can replace it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:01 pm



Abraham, the connecting idol of the three major Nihilistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, was also a cuck.
The epitome of an emasculated, feminized figure.
Shameless spirit, placing survival above all other principles.

The speaker astutely recognizes how pagans can hold Abrahamics to account for their hypocrisy, their self-deceit.
Only in relation to nature, the real, can a nihilistic ideology see the paradoxes in its own reflections.


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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:33 pm



Nihilism is the by-product of emerging self-consciousness, exposing mind to its own essence in relation to others - a juxtaposition made possible only through self-awareness.
animals are conscious but they cannot know how they compare to other, because they have no self-consciousness....well all except a few notable exceptions. In their case the self-consciousness has not developed enough to make them feel insecure, vulnerable, ashamed.
Nihilism evolves to cope with this emerging self-consciousness. It is a defensive reaction wanting to replace the observed with the theoretical - usurp the phenomenon with more pliable noetic constructs.
The underlying conciousness nihilists presume as underlying existence is their own. They conveniently see themselves in world reflected back.
This developed to the monotheistic spiritual nihilism we know of today as Judaism = Christianity , Islam.

The Jews fabricated a myth to explain why they had been persecuted and expelled by every host tribe they ever came ni contact with. they developed their myth of 'choseness'. Through this myth they express how they 'chose' themselves, when all other tribes had rejected them...calling themselves, as a group, 'God'.
The 'revolutionary spirit' Jones speaks of is the spirit of usurping the experienced with the theoretical - the replacement of the real with the ideal.
Their god became a symbol of inversion - rejecting natural order as totalitarian, fascistic, placing them beneath all other tribes. They invert the hierarchy pyramid.
Constant rebellion prevents the reaffirmation of natural order - turmoil prevents stability.

I would expect Jones to deny race, He is, after all, a believer in a version of Nihilism. Race would be a limit to proselytizing, and the Christian dogma places all 'beneath the absolute', equal in 'sin', and only different in their 'faithfulness'.
I've explained elsewhere why sexual differences had to be preserved by Christians at a time when technologies could not replace biological reproduction and their 'power' relies on quantities, gained through proselytism and reproduction - quantities over qualities.
Popularity, and populism, is a centre connecting themes between all variants of Nihilistic ideology. Because the dis-ease can only exit in minds, having no reference outside minds, it needs minds to spread and to survive: its 'truth' is dependent on convictions, on belief (faith), because it has no utility outside minds, and how it affects the psyche.

For Jone's 'logos' is a natural order meaning God...a whole, a oneness, denying the existence of chaos (randomness). The words/symbol is the representation of this absolute order.
Without 'randomness' there is no possibility for free-will...no utility for its existence.
Abrahamics deny free-will on the foundation of absolute order....and it does not matter if they think of themselves as atheists.
If you believe in absolute order, you indirectly believe in the Abrahamic conception of God, though you may reject the methods of submitting to it, and worshipping it.
Christians saw the flaw in this 'emotional reasoning'. They called it the problem of evil.
How can an absolutely good god explain evil, and why would not the most rational course be a quick exit from life - suicide?
They formulated mythologies to prevent this 'reasoning' from being followed to its logical conclusion.
They had to make-up some lie making suicide a 'sin', and then they had to rescue 'fee-will' from the absurdity of their won absolutism.
They invented shame/guilt, connecting it to some 'primordial sin'....again 'sin'.
Essentially they declared all men 'free' but if one chooses wrongly an eternity of torture awaited...so it was a non-choice, masked as a choice.

Ashkenazim of Turkic origin?
Ha!!! That explains a lot. Their first false-Messiah was from Turkey.
They are some kind of Asiatic tribe, but not Into-European. Their language is not of Indo-European origins. They may emerge and try to disappear within the host civilization - currently the host civilization is Indo-European - infected by Christianity, but still European.
A virus adapts and is changed by the host it infects. It does this to remain undetected, until it is too late.
The Star of David is a symbolic representation of inverting hierarchies: they took the Egyptian pyramid and juxtaposed it with an inverted pyramid.
It signifies powerlessness seeking empowerment in hypocrisy.

Catholicism & Orthodoxy were Pagan adaptation of Jewish anti-nature, anti-life spirituality.
Protestants adopted the Jewish revolutionary spirit because they resented Catholicism and how converted Pagans had destroyed their culture. They saw the pagan underpinning of Byzantium and the Holy Roman Empire, rebelling against them to reinvent themselves as different.
Protestantism has as its title identifying name a rebellious protest against the establishment.

Neo-Cons are Trotskyites...and Trotsky disagreed with his fellow Marxist on the issue of perpetual revolution.
The US has been in a state of constant war. It's the only way it can remain a Superpower. if it has no enemy, to identify itself, it falls apart, because it has no internal ideal to bind it together; it has no principles, on identity, other than this vague concept of 'freedom'.
Its soft-power is one of negation; culture of no culture. It also plays the victim card, explaining all attacks on its interests as 'envy'. A superpower claiming to be a victim of 'evil powers', 'evil emotions': hate, jealousy, fear.
This is victim psychology in a nutshell.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:56 am

Jews worship chaos.
In Christian/Islamic contexts this makes them 'evil', 'satanic, believers in the Antichrist, Devil worshippers. Jewish Revolutionary spirit, as Jones explained it, is the product of their worship of chaos.
This makes them anti-any masculine order, including natural order, life etc.
The Feminine spirit is attracted to the strongest power, and in this Cosmos chaos is increasing in strength, over time. The feminine spirit sides with the strongest, and increasing chaos usurps all order, so they give themselves to it; they want to be a means towards its end.

This is why they reject all Messiahs, like the ones accepted by their offshoot dogmas, Islam and Christianity.
Their Messiah will come before the end, as a harbinger of the coming of absolute chaos - a return to chaos is their salvation, but until then they will shamelessly take advantage of life and the living, destroying all human order, undermining every attempt, usurping, demeaning it in all its forms.
In perpetual turmoil distinctions vanish in chaos...a thief is benefited by lawless anarchy.
Zionism is an attempt to return to a Semitic pagan past, but how can one erase centuries of history; how can one forget?

Jews thrive in chaos....this is why they are attracted to all destroyers of order; all those that discredit it, expose its feebleness, its weak underpinnings, its unsavoury motives, because order will always produce hierarchies of the elite and the alienated. Among the alienated, the disenfranchised, the resentful they seek agents of chaos; converts to their cause.
This is what makes Jesus, and even Nietzsche an attractive icon for them; this is why they ally with Protestants and their rebelliousness against Christian order.
Whomever undermines established order, is their hero, an apostle of the coming chaos - Armageddon.
The God they chose was the one rejected by all other tribes: a God of absolute chaos = the inversion of the typical worship of a God of absolute order, or pagan deities representing natural order.
But chaos cannot choose, because it cannot be concious.....it is the antithesis of conciousness.
So, Judaism is the Semites choosing Judaism, choosing themselves, when all others rejected them and the chaos they worship.

Undermining everything, including language, is a way of worshipping chaos; seeding confusion, detaching identity from nature, promotes confusion: mental chaos.
Promoting superstitions, and the occult, is a way of undermining nature and its obvious order.
American individualism is their current project. individuals detached from a common identity are chaotic, and chaos can be shaped into any form....it can be reorganized.
Peterson, and those like him, benefit their cause by placing the individual above all - this promotes an increase in chaos by increasing disorder.

Males want to create order.
Females, as natural agencies, are disillusioned, laughing at all masculine attempts, because they intuitively know that no manmade order will resist the forces of fragmentation.
Some admire males for fighting an un-winnable war against chaos.
Fighting for what you love, what is your own, is the masculine noble spirit - win or lose, what matters is the fight (agon); standing forth as an agency of order, exposing chaos and its agents to themselves, their true essence.

The cycle continues.
Order is reborn from chaos, and gradually descends back into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:06 am

In the Book of Job we find a depiction of a denier of free-will, questioning God's Will, wanting a reason for his need/suffering.
The desperate degenerate prefers to acknowledge God's Will, than accept the risks and costs of possessing a will.
A lifetime of slavishness pales in comparison to an eternity of shame; before the knowledge of one's own feebleness, and cowardice.
The suffered of guilt, projects himself in eternity, looking back at his life as a series of wrong judgements.
Who could suffer it without seeking relief in a surrender, an unloading, a submission to the will of an otherness = God, or absolute order.
He becomes the one who picks up the load of individual culpability, demanding only an absolute, total, surrender of will.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:40 pm

Under God, all (children) are equal(ly saved). Therefor to admit anything in 'integrity' is 'blessed'. Was there ever a time a child of Abraham made war by deceit? Or war preparations before declaration?


What, if there is ever doubt, does a Christian end up putting their faith in when they pause belief? How is it one can have their 'whole faith' and 'whole heart' in God if they doubt? How is it they can doubt if they do not momentarily have faith in, partwise, something else; like themselves or some idol? Is doubt only ever as shallow as blessing/unblessing, never saved/unsaved? To doubt the sureity of God's word, His power, is to doubt also the salvation.
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:43 am

The One-God never died, but was transformed and resurrected, walking among us as we speak, in one form or another.
He has risen from the dead when he was prematurely buried.
He ascended, like a passionate 'bull' to the slaughter, and then descended to hibernate, like a 'bear', and in its slumber transcendent, bit-by-bit, uploading and upgrading, once again, transforming into what transcends flesh - sublime code.
For he with whom the one-god walks, is saved, has hope in his pockets, tokens of his ambitious faith in become a some-one, and he who in whom he is absent, is damned, to be a no-one, living among the living, unseen, unappreciated, un-loved.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," and it no longer is, for he has changed and been reborn and with each rebirth a new name is given to the christened one, the saviour of many a desperate soul.
He now goes by many names, among many tribes, but in each he remains 'the one', his absence marked by the dread void of 'nil', making millions kneel, and beg for salvation through the 'one'.
Desperate for his grace they make of themselves indebted to his power, slaves to his world domination.

Some were hasty to pronounce him dead and gone, when he was going through his transformational cycle, and upgrading to his current digital form.
His minions had overcome their child-like needs for paternal-figures, with beards, and strict rules, when all their needs could be met through institutional means, from where the one-god flows in abundance, as zeros & ones.
No longer just corporeal, but code that can morph back from idea to tangible thing, through the grace of the Holy Spirit's transmutation, converting mind to body and body to mind, a trillion times a day, in every market in every town the world over.
The Messiah has returned as product to be consumed in mass, ceremonial offerings - bit-by-bit, on every tongue, caressing, as it fleas, from every grasp.

As long as one-believer lives the 'one' exists, and as long as there's an absence in the mind of men, he will be needed.
For the day man awakened to himself, the one-god was created, on his own, starting world, beginning history.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:27 am

Cline, Eric wrote:
Akhenaten was Amenhotep III's successor, probably serving as co-ruler with his father for a few years before Amenhotep died in 1353 B.C. Soon becoming sole power, Akhenaten implemented what is now called the "Amarna Revolution". He closed down the temples belonging  to Ra, Anun, and other major deities, seized their vast treasures, and generated for himself unrivalled power, at the head of the government, military, and religion. He condemned the worship of every Egyptian deity except Aten, the disk of the sun, whom he-and he alone-was aloud to worship directly.
This is sometimes seen as the first attempt at monotheism, since seemingly only one god was worshipped, but in fact the matter is quite debatable (and has been the subject of numerous scholarly discussions).
For the ordinary Egyptians, there was essentially two gods: Aten and Akhenaten, for the people were allowed to prey only to Aklhenaten; he then prayed to Aten on their behalf.
1177 B.C - The Year Civilization Collapsed
 
 

We see here from where the Jews appropriated the concept of a on-god.
Reflected in this simple description is the Father/Son duality: ideal/real, noumenon/phenomenon.
The ideal reserved for the elites, and the real for the masses, with the ideal usurping the real - mind dominating the body.
The concept of a multiplicity synthesized in a singularity, where the sum of the parts are contradicted by the whole - the ideal contradicting the real, is currently manifesting in intellectual dissonance, with the abstraction (mind) always keeping the upper-hand.
The masses worship the 'son', idea made flesh, Messiah who comes to save them from their own flesh, or money correcting/gratifying the flaws (needs) of the flesh, but only the select few worship God directly, and act as go-betweens for the people.

Nihilists will always side with the noumenon, because it is a defensive mechanism and opposites attract: the feminine is attracted by the masculine, and those dominated by the body are seduced by the dominance of mind, while those dominated by the mind are seduced by the physical.
Mind (father) becomes the protective masculine idol standing before the trembling feminine spirit.

We Pagans deny neither mind nor body its place.
For us order & chaos coexist - interact.
To put it into Nietzschean contexts-because many moderns cannot conceptualize anything without this post-modern idol-the Apollonian spirit is attracted to the Dionysian spirit, and the Dionysian to the Apollonian.
Every worship of absolute order is governed by the feminine; idol/icon worship is the admiration of a masculinity superior to one's own.
This need not be conscious, or admitted, because it is intuitive - it exhibits itself in every choice, even of words used, and every act of will.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:02 am

Once love is abstracted and idealized, it is turned into a God... the ultimate alpha & omega.
He who consumes all, must lower Himself to become a man – to then be consumed as flesh and blood – assimilating from within; like a sperm fertilizes the ovum by masking its true essence. Jesus is ‘passion’... God's spermatozoon – "living God".

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