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When the foundation of your self-identity is a nihilistic spirituality - i.e., Abrahamism - its loss leaves you with the nil - stripped of its semiotic occultism the nil exposes consciousness to the absence of absolutes, forcing it to seek refuge in hedonistic debauchery.

Many Christians disrupt pagans because they know that without the control of Abrahamism - the external prison - they would go insane or become degenerate.
They assume that anyone without such an external absolute, is insane or degenerate as they secretly and intuitively know they are.

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Sexual debauchery seems to be a natural progression from Abrahamism through secular nihilistic ideologies, such as Marxism and Transhumanism, finalizing in pure Nihilism.
A gradual loss or a stripping away of the semiotic superficial cocoon, exposing an emptiness that seeks cover in hedonistic escapism and self-numbing debauchery.

When a mind is exposed to the final end of its own ideology it becomes cynical, dismissing all ideologies as equally void of substance.
It's only option, other than suicide - as Heisman chose when he was exposed to his own identity's absence of substance - is self-numbing, distractions and a vindictive attitude towards anyone who does not face the same dilemma - resentiment of the herd psyche and its victimhood underpinning.

We clealry see it exposed in regards to the idea of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], scrambling to invert their won victimhood by reinterpreting words; scrambling to hide their addiction to the one-God, and their crypto-Christianity, masking in secularized ideologies; scrambling to hide their sense of victimization by 'external agencies and their need to identity with 'innocence'.

Language is their only access to 'pride'. They can rearrange word definitions, refusing to anchor them upon an objective standards, such as reality, turning to degrading or diminishing language, through Witgestein's mentoring - from one personality worship obsessiveness to another.

A Nihilism has to find a icon/idol to stand behind, to sacrifice his own identity, in his name - if not God, then Jesus, Allah, Marx, Nietzsche, Spinoza, Wittgenstein....anyone to put before himself and a world accessible by all.
Trust or deference, for the idol/icon comes after the mentor is dead, and becomes cleansed, posthumously, of his earthly foibles - becomes reborn as perfect idea - like Jesus was.

Come to think of it, Messianic complex is rooted in personality worship.
The messiah idolized a preferably dead figure, and dreams of being idolized himself. But to be idolized by as many gullible fools as possible he must offer something exceptional extraordinary, so seductive that nobody can resists it - like salvation.
Such extraordinary, supernatural, promises cannot be fabricated or validated other than through language.
He no longer trusts others because he no longer trusts himself.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptyMon Jul 08, 2019 7:59 am

Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
Nietzsche believed that he had unmasked Christianity and wrought the death of God. Auschwitz was where God was formally exterminated. Auschwitz was the culmination of the Nazi revolution’s overthrow of the tyranny of God, Christ, and its secular moral mutations. It was the justice of revenge and reparations for Christianity. Just as Germans had entered history, they were subdued by Christian civilization. The Nazis realized that this Jew, Jesus, was teaching them how to be weak. Judeo-Christianity had vilified the proud and war-like nature as evil. This is what the Nazis waged war against.

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Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
Now, one might say, this ‘altruism’ isn’t really altruistic. That’s right. Altruism as it evolved in biological nature really is not altruistic in the strict sense of true selflessness, and this is what Jesus exposed. On some level, Jesus of Nazareth recognized what Hamilton’s theory of kin selection clarified empirically. Jesus and Darwin could ultimately agree on this point: the ‘altruism’ of the traditional family is fundamentally selfish. For the Roman soldier and for Jesus, the highest call of virtue was a call to war. Jesus combined the warrior ethos of a Roman soldier with the ethical radicalism of Hebrew prophets in a war against the false altruism of kin selective selfishness common to both Jews and Romans. And this meant, in practice, a war against the family: ‘Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
These famous words, ‘I did not come to bring peace, but a sword’ (i.e. Matt. 10:34-39), have been used to legitimate countless violent, bloodthirsty acts of military aggression for people who have called themselves Christians. Jesus does advocate that one sell robe and buy a sword (Luke 22:35-36, 38), but who, exactly, is the enemy here? Jesus was clearly taking up arms, so to speak, but the enemy he fought against was the bonds of the common human family. What we have here is what Crossan calls ‘an almost savage attack on family values’ which ‘happens very, very often’.
How modern Christianity has become associated with ‘traditional family values’ is a matter of self-deceptive political expediency.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptyMon Jul 08, 2019 2:02 pm

Christians believe in traditional family values in the exact same way that they believed in man's free-will - as a hypocritical cover of the opposite.
This is clear, to all but Desperate Degenerates, who are presently in fashion and are multiplying like rats in a shit-house.
A brief reading of the narratives exposes a hatred for paternalistic family structures, and their gradual replacement by the one-Father - the Father of all fathers, the King of all kings.
Just read how the Apostles were selected, and keep in mind that back then every family member was vital to the survival of a family - especially sons. This is why they had large families.

The same way they hide their anti-traditional family values beneath a hypocritical support of it, is the exact same method used in regards to the concept of free-will.
Again, don't take my word on it, but read the narrative of Adam & Eve, where the issue of free-will is central.
Then read Abraham's attempt to sacrifice his own begotten son.
Is this 'free-will' or a taunt....like telling a slave that the cell doors are open, at night, but if he is caught sneaking out he will be captured tortured and lynched.
Is the salve free to leave if the guard is omnipotent and omniscient and there's nowhere to hide from him?
But Desperate Degenerates, in their desperation, believe this si a tale about ma's free-will supporting their claim that free-will is a lie to produce shame and guilt...but the shameless do not need excuses when they've already decided that they are salves.
They need an excuse explaining why they will never leave the prison, even if the doors are left unlocked.

The reason why Christianity is currently associated with family values is based on the nature of its Nihilistic foundation - all is inverted.
The kind of family they promote is one where the biological male - the pater - is not truly the head of his own family, but god's stand-in - his cock & balls, down here on earth; his physical manifestation - his Jesus.
The children do not really belong to such a pseudo-male. They belong to God. His wide is not his own, it is God's wife.

See, how this translates in modern secular forms of nihilism, where god is replaced by state.
Is modern atheist man truly the head of his own family?
Are his children his own or the states? Is his wife his own, or does she really belong to the state?
Is he not simply the State's proxy?

Traditional family's are antithetical to the uniformity Modern nihilistic systems promote in a genetically and memetically heterogeneous world.
The goal is uniformity...and traditional fathers stand in the way of this objective.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptyFri Jul 12, 2019 12:00 am

When you are a base people, dealing with the aspects of humanity most see as beast, animal, then you speak obvious truths and formulate a 'spirituality appealing to all; the most universal of characteristics: LCD. A tribe so base, creates a base religion. Those of Greeks were incompatible with Celtics, and Celtics with Russians, and Russian with Chinese - so on. Even Abrahamism has its particular character, but was less distinct, and would justify unto itself many times comparatively.
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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptyFri Jul 19, 2019 7:08 pm

Spengler, Oswald wrote:
The Egyptian denied mortality, the Classical man affirmed it in the whole symbolism of his culture.

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The Egyptian soul, conspicuously historical in its texture and impelled with primitive passion towards the infinite, perceived past and future as its whole world, and the present (which is identical with waking consciousness) appeared to him simply as the narrow common frontier of two immeasurable stretches. The Egyptian culture is the embodiment of care — which is the spiritual counterpoise of distance — care for the future expressed in the choice of granite or basalt as the craftsman’s materials, in the chiseled archives, in the elaborate administrative system, in the net of irrigation works, and, necessarily bound up therewith, care for the past.
The Egyptian mummy is a symbol of the first importance. The body of the dead man was made everlasting, just as his personality, his ‘Ka,’ was immortalized through the portrait-statuettes, which were often made in many copies and to which it was conceived to be attached by a transcendental likeness.

Afro-Asiatic languages and the culture they reflected, were shaped by the influence of ancient-Egyptian spirituality and Babylonian civilization, which was eventually absorbed by Persia and its Zoroastrianism.

Semites emerged within this dual influence, sampling from both to produce their own brand of Nihilism.
Christianity and Islam follow.

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Pascal's wager implies a win-win scenario which is false.
A belief in what is absurd is not inconsequential - it affects a lifetime in a loss of awareness and possibilities which a belief in god inhibits - particularly a belief in a one-god, or an absolute authority - an external totalitarian will.

The only way to reduce the costs, or evade them, is through duplicity, i.e., to claim to believe in what you never apply in your interactions: to say one thing, and act in a manner that contradicts it.
This is, in fact, how Abrahamism survives through the ages.
Christians invented the weekly absolution rituals, that cleanse the individual of the accumulating duplicity - sin.
Sin being free-will. An act that does not abide by God's will - absolute determinism - is, by definition, sinful and evil.
A weekly cleansing rids the individual of the accumulated dissonance between what he believes and what he does, so that he can be convinced of one thing, and act as if he were not.

The primary cost for a mind trapped by this hypocrisy is a lifetime discussing nonsense, when it could be exploring more interesting and useful issues.
A lifetime wasted on bullshyte.

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Modern forms of nihilism have simply replaced words, pretending to be free from "primitive" Abrahamic spiritual variants of the same world-view.

God is not absolute, or order, or one.
Salvation is now innocence - ignorance as a saving grace. One claims innocence as his declared lack of free-will.
He is not culpable, ergo he is innocent: saved from his own judgements and from his own self-awareness.
Biblical sin = application of free-will contrary to god's will; rejection of god's absoluteness is "blasphemy".
Self-Deceit is ignorance, which is a claim on innocence, i.e., salvation.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptyMon Jul 29, 2019 6:39 am



Puritan Protestantism, is at the heart of what we know as the U.S., and its brand of Judeo-Christianity.
On the forefront of Liberalism and Multi-Culturalism are Anglo-Saxon nations, like the US, Canada, Australia, England...

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Nietzsche, Friedrich wrote:
...Let us face facts: the people have triumphed – or the slaves, the mob, the herd, whatever you wish to call them – and if the Jews brought it about, then no nation ever had a more universal mission on earth.
The lords are a thing of the past, and the ethics of the common man is completely triumphant. I don't deny that this triumph might be looked upon as a kind of blood poisoning, since it has resulted in a mingling of the races, but there can be no doubt that the intoxication has succeeded. The 'redemption' of the human race (from the lords, that is) is well under way; everything is rapidly becoming Judaized, or Christianized, or mob-ized – the word makes no difference....
[The Birth of Tragedy and The Genealogy of Morals]
Jews love Nietzsche because of his polemic agaisnt their competitor, Christianity.
Modern, secular Jews, in particular, adore him, because through him they can attach Abrahamism without being shown to be attacking Judaism. they want to rid themselves of a competitor that keeps them outside European culture without eliminating the only identity they know.
Zionists, in particular, dream of returning to the Semitic tribal past, but they are unable to square this with an abandonment of Judaism.

Something similar is occurring in Christianity. Paganism, having been absorbed and warped by Christian reinterpretations, is now assimilated, in the minds of the masses, who cannot distinguish ancient Indo-European symbols and rituals, from their more current Christian appropriations. In their mind Hellenism and Christianity are synonymous.

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Nietzsche, Friedrich wrote:
The human being who has become free… spits on the contemptible type of well-being dreamed of by shopkeepers, Christians, cows, females, Englishmen, and other democrats. The free man is a warrior.
[WTP, 881]

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Fraser, Andrew wrote:
The Cosmopolitan Cult of the Other
One scholar suggests that WASPs were their own worst enemy. According to Eric P Kaufmann, the decline of Anglo-America was not due to external factors; in particular, it did not follow an organized campaign by commercial and ethnic minority groups to challenge WASP hegemony. He contends that the decisive “forces of dominant-ethnic decline” emerged instead “from within Anglo-Protestant America.” Brian Gratton suggests that the most significant psychological and spiritual
force driving WASPs to commit hari-kari was the other-directed nature of the “social self” fabricated by the corporate system.[64]
It might be argued that Americans always have been “gregarious and subservient to public opinion.” But the conformity of the inner-directed person “was in most cases very much concerned with his good repute” as well as external details such as whether ones clothes, curtains, and bank credit matched the standard set by the “best people.” By contrast, the other-directed person aims to “keep up with the Joneses…not so much in external details as in the quality of his inner experience.”
He is sensitive to signals emanating from a far wider social environment than that of his parents, family, neighborhood, or local community. He also strives to keep “in touch with others on many more levels than the externals of appearance and propriety.” Unlike the inner-directed person, he lacks the “capacity to go it alone.” Tradition-directed people, too, learned to live in a group milieu, but in medieval England clear boundaries separated in-groups from out-groups. Modern otherdirected people, by contrast, pride themselves on the cosmopolitan ease with which they can navigate the boundaries between the familiar and the strange. In a sense, the other-directed person is “at home everywhere and nowhere, capable of a rapid, if sometimes superficial intimacy with and response to everyone.” In a traditional society the signals from others “come in a cultural monotone.” There is no need for complex receiving equipment to pick up rapidly changing messages from many widely
scattered sources. But the other-directed person must internalize “elaborate equipment” both “to attend to such messages and occasionally to participate in their circulation.” If the inner-directed person internalizes a set of guilt-and-shame controls that act like a gyroscope to keep him on course, the other-directed person experiences “a diffuse anxiety” that works like radar, enabling him to change course in accordance with the dictates of expediency.[65] It was no coincidence that pragmatism became the official philosophy of corporate America.
No doubt the emergent other-directed character of the WASP middle class was a uniquely Anglo-American cultural adaptation to the organizational imperatives of corporate capitalism. But if the home-grown corporate self provided the seed-bed for the cosmopolitan spirit of the Progressive Era, the WASP clerisy had considerable help from other ethnic groups in nurturing a full-blown cult of the Other. The raw material for a novel transethnic view of America was readily available in the tenement houses of the New York and Chicago slums, teeming as they were with tightly packed masses of new immigrants. Inspired by a “romantic-humanitarian ethic’ that “led them to interpret Protestant Christianity in a very peculiar, almost secular, way,” middle-class reformers provided “settlement houses” to assist alien newcomers in adjusting to life in America. “Most Settlement workers were of WASP origin, and nearly all were active members of mainline Protestant denominations.” Their aim was to “put the immigrants (as individuals) on an equal symbolic footing with the natives.” In adapting “the tenets of egalitarian humanism to their polyglot, culturally charged context,” Settlement leaders fashioned “a concept of the nation…that would not violate the human dignity of the immigrants by denigrating their culture.” In Chicago, Jane Addams and John Dewey were especially important in the campaign to recognize and accept immigrant cultures “as a ‘gift’ to the American
amalgam.” They implored the American nation “to shed its Anglo-Saxon ethnic core and develop a culture of cosmopolitan humanism, a harbinger of impending global solidarity.”[66] The WASP intelligentsia was not alone in the campaign to liberate Americans from their cultural parochialism.
Indeed, Kaufmann credits a Jewish intellectual with a leading role in awakening American progressives to the possibilities inherent in this new, pluralist vision of American national identity.
Prior to “the arrival of a seer from outside the Protestant fold,” not even the most advanced Anglo-Protestant reformers had gone beyond a “humanistic, experimental embrace of non-Christian religions.” Certainly, they had not been ready to advocate “stripping the nation of its implicitly white, Anglo-Saxon, or Protestant heritage.” But Felix Adler first made the leap from transcendental pluralism to cosmopolitan praxis. Adler was born into the German-Jewish “family whose patriarch Rabbi Samuel Adler, was a leading figure in American Reform Judaism.” To ease their assimilation into American society, Reform Jews performed “an intellectual divorce between Jewish religion and its ethnic myths and symbols.” Reformed rabbis taught that the “messianic mission of Israel was not to restore the old Jewish state…but rather to spread monotheism around the world and unite all people under God.”[67]
Adler took his father ’s ecumenism beyond the Jewish community when founded the universalist Ethical Culture society. He believed himself to be on a mission to spread the universal faith of his people to the world at large. But he was careful to note that the Jewish race “will keep apart and will do well to do so” until that evangelical task had been accomplished. When mankind had become united in peace and harmony, the Jewish race, too, would die. But, Adler did not expect the ethnoreligious particularity of the Jewish people to fade away until the day individual Jews could “look about them and perceive that there is as great and perhaps greater liberty in religion beyond the pale of their race.” Ethical Culture was premised therefore upon a fundamental asymmetry; it is only when every Gentile tribe has given up its “peculiar idiosyncracies” that Jews will be free to follow suit.[68] Until that eschatological moment arrives, the messianic mission of Jews may not be foresworn.
On Kaufmann’s reading, Adler ’s “realist logic brusquely exposed the tension between Reform Judaism’s manifest universalism and its latent ethnicism.” In fact, in the passage just quoted, Adler ’s Jewish ethnocentrism, far from being “latent,” is on open display. He certainly did not issue a forthright call for the “termination” of his own group. Indeed, he envisaged that, for Jews alone, no sacrifice of ethnicity would be necessary prior to the arrival of a far-distant “post-ethnic Utopia.”[69]
By contrast, the Ethical Culture movement expected Anglo-Protestant reformers to apply the “castiron logic” of cosmopolitanism to their own people at once. William James, for one, urged his fellow Americans to look “beyond the pale” of the Anglo-Saxon race in their search for a religious experience to remedy their “inner incompleteness” and heal their “inner discord.” To Adler ’s cosmopolitanism, James added a radical subjectivity. He converted religion “from a code or a community into a ‘will to believe.’” He also “heralded a shift from theology to psychology as the key therapeutic arbiter of moral selfhood.” Anglo-Saxon Protestants were urged to embrace a pragmatic approach to religious experience, choosing whichever “type of religion is going to work best in the long run.” It did not much matter whether God was dead, so long as “we form at any rate an ethical republic here below.”[70] The critical turn towards “the repudiation of America’s Anglo-Protestant ethnic heritage in the name of liberal-egalitarian radicalism” came in the 1890s when Adler and James transplanted “cosmopolitan ideas out of their Jewish-messianic context” and re-rooted “them in the American atmosphere.”[71]
The cosmopolitan ideal found fertile soil in the university and settlement houses of Chicago. The towering prestige of Jane Addams and John Dewey transmitted the new faith to avant-garde intellectuals and artists in New York. This rising status group identified strongly with “the outsiders, revolutionaries, and heretics of the past whose martyrdom in the service of humanity had assured their immortality.” In an effort “to fuse their old religious faith with their newly acquired political beliefs,” progressive writers “repeatedly cast Jesus in the role of revolutionary.” Bohemian intellectuals were particularly drawn “to the ‘homeless mind’ of the cosmopolitan Jewish experience.” Randolph Bourne was one prominent Anglo-Protestant modernist “who readily acknowledged the influence of his Jewish peers.” But, unlike Adler ’s Ethical Culture, Bourne’s radical modernism did not seek to dissolve the distinctive ethnocultural identities of other peoples into a common humanity. On the contrary, “Bourne considered ethnicity a cultural good to be experienced by a modernist cultural consumer.” The paradox is that Bourne did embrace “ideas of ethnic determinism and communal authenticity,” but “only insofar as these attacked the Anglo-Saxon hegemonic culture he detested.”[72] Bourne was, in fact, an early and particularly rabid Anglo-Saxon Anglophobe.
While lauding the traditions of the Jew “who sticks proudly to the faith of his fathers and boasts of the venerable culture of his” race, Bourne sought the “ethnic destruction” of his fellow Anglo-Saxons. He hoped to foster a ethnic revival for minority groups that would preserve their ethnocultural traditions while imploring Anglo-Saxons to become cosmopolitan.[73] It was not just Anglo-American provincialism that raised his ire. After a visit to England he declared that he was “just about ready to renounce the whole of Anglo-Saxon civilization.” If the world was “ever to have any freedom or any life or honesty or sensitiveness of soul,” it would be necessary to get rid of “the old English way of looking at the world.”[74] America could realize its destiny as the first “international nation” only by ridding itself of its Anglo-Saxon character: “The Anglo-Saxon element is guilty of what every dominant race is guilty of in every European country: the imposition of its own culture upon the minority peoples.” He expressed satisfaction at “the degree to which that purpose of ‘Americanizing,’ that is, ‘Anglo-Saxonizing,’ the immigrant failed,” or so it seemed during the Great War.[75] In fact, for a generation or more after Bourne’s premature death in the influenza epidemic of 1918, the ethnic minority struggle against WASP cultural and political hegemony continued to face an uphill battle. Even as the corporate system worked objectively to corrode the demographic and cultural foundations of Anglo-American dominance, WASP elites were subjectively appalled by the influx of aliens into their neighborhoods, businesses, and colleges. Such attitudes did not go unchallenged, either privately or publicly. “Advanced thinkers” encouraged the increasingly other-directed offspring of the upper crust to admonish parents who harbored such parochial prejudices. Until ethnic minorities mobilized local, state, and federal governments to enter the fray on their behalf, mainline Protestant churches made it their mission to convert corporate elites to the cosmopolitan cult of the Other. During the 1960s, the last hold-outs in the clubs and boardrooms of WASP America ran up the white flag.
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Americanism is Globalization - New World Order; a refined form of Judeo-Christianity. It does not include any kind of Christianity but Protestant - Puritan - Christianity, and of course Judaism, but not Orthodox Judaism - neither Spiritual nor Cultural Judaism - but Zionism, i.e. Political Judaism.
Political and Cultural Judaism are often confused. One masking as the other, or the political using the cultural to destroy what stands in the way of its conversion, its return, from political to cultural Judaism.
Here the gene/meme dynamics is crucial.
Judaism is not Semitism. It is the usurping of the genetic identity by a memetic ideology, which then attempts to become biological.
So, a Nihilistic meme appropriates genes to become genetic - parasitism. The first "victims" are the Semitic tribes that adopted Judaism to survive - survival at all costs.
their "conversion" is symbolically narrated in the Old Testament, in the story of Moses.
He is sacrifices, place upon the flow of a river, from where he is "rescued and raised as a member of the host.
The rest is known. Forty-Years in the desert of the real, emerging as belonging to an idea - as Jesus emerges from his burial cave no longer man but idea, i.e., spirit.
The Semitic tribes that entered the desert left their Semitism there, re-emerging as Jews, what came to be a successful survival strategy.
So, successful, in fact, that the Semites want to reclaim their tribal identity, producing a contradiction.
Unable to abandon their survival strategies they remain the "chosen victims" who must now explain their power, and victimization of other tribes. They cannot return to their Semitic identity because there they only find suffering and slavery, shame and victimization, all the experiences that became their victim identity.

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Monotheism/Polytheism
Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
The difference between polytheism and monotheism reflects a very basic difference of values. Pagan polytheistic values are generally more conducive to biologically eugenic practices. Monotheism, by contrast, belittles humans in the face of an overwhelming God and reigns in powerful instincts that may have been biologically adaptive in pre-historic times. Biblical proto-egalitarian valuation of the weak may have biologically dysgenic consequences.
Monotheism is the worship of the abstraction; product of the mind. The mind which can synthesize and hold incompatible concepts in a singular whole; a mind that fabricates absolutes and names them, giving them symbols; the mind which can contradict the apparent with its own abstractions.
Monotheism is the collective worship of mental constructs. The source of totalitarianism, authoritarianism and all kinds of sociopolitical and spiritual ideologies, reflecting the either/or binary methodology of the evolved brain’s noetic categories. In it chaos can only be conceived as complexity, i.e., order which has yet to be integrated into a complete and whole noetic category; the existent multiplicity reduced to a simplified/generalized singularity.

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It is ridiculous to speak of the separation of religion and state when ‘religions’ themselves evolved in preservation of values that promote different forms of evolution. Pagan polytheists look up to Zeus and other images of biological superiority while devaluing biological inferiority. Monotheism values precisely the opposite trends because it effectually values the end of biological evolution. While devaluing the superior biological body, monotheism looks up to ‘God’ as a foreshadowing of the pinnacle of post-biological evolution: artificial intelligence.

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The advent of monotheism over polytheism marked a paradigm shift that correlates with the advent of technology over biology. While the ancient Greeks sublimated biological human excellence as the gods, the ancient Jews sublimated supra-biological excellence as God. While genetic aristocracies are the means and ends of breeding gods, non-biological technology is the means and end of creating God. While pagan gods are extrapolations based on the biological form that could be realized through genetic engineering, God is mind beyond the biological form and ‘invisible’ in the same sense that abstract human thoughts are ‘invisible’.

Tracing the memetic contagion back to the source can help in the establishment of a time-line, exposing the viruses evolution and adaptive morphology, after every contact with a new host.

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One of the tactics of memetic-prasitism is masking as belonging to the host.
A narrative clearly indicated in [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
Working covertly to break down the host's discrimination so as to infiltrate and appropriate - vampirically drinking of the host's essence.
All for the sake of survival.


Christian version of Abraham's cuckoldry.

Parasitical survival strategies necessitate duplicity.  
the inversion of nihilism is embraced rather than rejected as a dis-ease, altering the gene/meme sequence of identity into meme/gene; placing the ideology, the dogma, above all else.
Body/mind inverted to Mind/Body, eventually sacrificing body for the survival of the mind and its identifying abstractions. Blood loses significance - racial, sexual, and eventually all physical designation are sacrificed for the survival of the meme. All is converted to idea/ideal.

If we keep in mind the matrilineal inheritance of identity, of the Jews, as compared to the patrilineal identity of the Aryans, we can fully appreciate the extent of the sacrifice being made for the sake of gaining access to the host - the risk of losing identity is accepted for the sake of survival.

Jesus' narrative expands this, as a representative of a perfect "bridge" - part Aryans, from the father, and part Jew, from the mother. Both identities merging in a spirit, sacrificing the body so as to stop the mind/body dissonance from shattering the incompatible identities.
When Jesus is "resurrected" as pure spirit, all contradictions merge in mystification - obscurantism.
This means that contradictions cannot survive physically but can be maintained theoretically, ideologically, if the concepts remain vague enough.
A political ploy.

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Gypsies, another Afro-Asiatic tribe that practices parasitism, didn't manage to develop the mental and linguistic talents required to ascend and advance their parasitism. They remain on a primitive level, offering us an example of how parasitism works and how it evolves culturally, i.e., memetically.

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Now, imagine, or conceive the "absolute".

In this vid, Dillahunty exposes the linguistic games played not only by Abrahamics but by nihilists.
Jews, in particular, have trained themselves in the Torah, to manipulate word-based absurdities and make them sound convincing to those they wish to manipulate and to  exploit, so as to convert their victimhood into an aggressive victimization and their shame into pride.
This is common among those who wish to use language to construct sophistry as a means towards whatever ends govern their needs - giving direction to their will.
Nihilism is entirely word-based, for it is always, and to a degree, a reaction to an uncertain and threatening cosmos; a coping mechanism, or a defensive reaction to reality.
This method is effective because it exploits a need in the "target", or the "mark", being exploited and manipulated, essentially recruiting it into its own deception.
The Desperate Degenerate is so desperate to believe, or not to, that he does not question the language nor how it is used. His need overcomes his/her scepticism.
The greater the need the more absurdity he is able to disregard, making the work of exploiting and manipulating him all the more easier.
Politically this means that maintaining the masses in a perpetual state of stress - low level anxiety - makes them vulnerable to any absurd claim.

And this works not only in regards to believing in absurdities, such as a one-god, but in disbelieving in one's own free-will - desperation for a absolute plan, a universal authority, or a desperation to be liberated from the responsibilities for one's own failures, or to be free from one's past.
Superstition, magical claims, are all part of the psychosis.
The greater the desperate degeneracy the larger the supernatural claims required to placate existential angst.
See the levels of desperation and degeneracy in the US and how this worked into electing a charlatan and narcissist like Trump...or even a simpleton like George W.
The ascent of the Liberal left, promoting absurdities, and their degeneracy, increases the levels of desperation in the conservative right....and this comes out in the election as a collective choice.

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PostSubject: Re: Abrahamism Abrahamism  - Page 8 EmptySat Aug 24, 2019 8:41 am

Jung, Carl G. wrote:
Christianity split the Germanic barbarian into an upper and a lower half, and enabled him, by repressing the dark side to domesticate the brighter half and fit it for civilization...
But, the lower darker half still awaits redemption and a second spell of domestification.
The Jew, on the other hand, is domesticated to a higher degree than we are, but he is badly at a loss for that quality in man which roots him to the earth and draws new strength from below.

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Point of interest, in all this Liberal debatye,,

1- An inadvertent admission that Semites, converted to Judaism, are not Europeans, but of an afro-Asiatic origin; kin to Arabs.

2- Brits, she says, "uoght to have Britain, so why should not Jews have Israel", yet Jew are behind all movements that attempt to deny native Europeans their primordial homelands, while using a double-standard to defend their "rights" over a region of the Levant.
They do this so as to integrate and to prevent another mass-expulsion.  
Zionism is weaponizing Judaism and their "victim status," using it as a political tool to defeat adversaries they could not stand agaisnt.
So, while it sells nationalism, at home, it secretly corrupts the meaning of the term, to apply only to the goy....fearing, most of all, European nationalism, and the emergence of a European identity - which would immediately exclude them, despite decades of miscegenation, and strategic intermarriages.  

A remark...
Semites are not all Jews; not all Jews are Semites.
Zionism is a nationalistic moment attempting to return Jews to their Semitic tribal origins....but, without abandoning their centuries long Jewish identity, which proved to be a successful parasitic strategy, that goes way back to before Roman times; back to the ancient-Egyptians.
So, successful, in fact, that they quickly abandoned proselytism so as to deny their new-found inverting nihilism to all tribes except their own, beginning the struggle with Christianity and Islam - one applying a Hellenic cosmopolitanism to this Asiatic spiritual nihilism, that became contagious among growing European populations seeking "salvation" from their own existence; and Zoroastrian Arianism, producing Islam and its distinct tribal and hyper-masculine energies - over-compensating for nihilism's emasculation - which is the origin of their monotheism - another example of their appropriating methodologies.

A similar movement occurred in Greece. there Christianity was forcefully integrated into disharmonious synthesis with paganism, because the modern Greeks, after centuries of assimilation and Judaic infections, could not abandon their Christian spirituality even if it came in direct conflict with their Hellenic identity.
the result is modern Greece - caught between a European and an Afro-Asiatic identity, which they call Turkish, and a deteriorating cultural and intellectual population that is prone towards hedonism and consumerism.
modern Greeks have essentially buried their ancient identity beneath a stratum of more current corruptions, from the east - not only through their contact with the Jews, when part of Rome, but also in their long struggle agaisnt the Asiatic, mongoloid Turkish tribes, that descended into the region later.
This creates a disharmony. A conflict of identity.
They attempt to correct it by translating their Orthodox Christianity into a mock representation of their pagan beliefs. We see this in their belief in multi-saints - one for each region - their many virgin maries, and their ethological traditions, like Easter, where they slaughter and consume goats, as they did in ancient times.
Their confused identity is so confusing to them that they seek substance in other cultures, becoming worshippers of the alien, the otherness, the strange and modern 'western sold to them by the US; unable to grasp the richness of their own culture, because it is contradicted by an alien virus that does not allow it to fully bloom.
Modern Greeks cannot abandon their Christianity, so they remain lost to themselves - wandering from idea to idea, from place to place, seeking something they cannot pinpoint.

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Pascal's Wager.

We may include Nietzsche's Eternal return as a unverifiable method of testing your faith....in yourself.
Eternal Return is a mind-game.
What if, it asks, you were to live the same life, over and over....as those who have replaced the one-god with the concept of absolute order imply....then how would you feel about the life you are living?
But if all is absolutely ordered and so determined absolutely, then what other life could you live?
The idea asks you to stoically accept your fate.

But eternal return need not be of an the same, but of a variant, as is implied in Hinduism Karma. In Hinduistic contexts and their cosmic cycles, the choices made by individual's are carried forth in their next reincarnation, or their next passing through the cycle of life. The individual is held accountable for his actions, and the choices and judgements they are founded upon.
If there were no -free-will then why would the individual suffer a lower life, because he did something "wrong" in a previous one?
How could anyone attain enlightenment when it isn't up to him or her? What value does a life have, if it is lived according to an external essence, order, and can do nothing other than what it is preordained to do?

"Eternal Return," for absolutists, is but another term for "Eternal Life".
An endless repetition of the same life, and everything that you do or is done upon you.

Abrahamism is repackaged....over and over again.
Marxism is another secular repackaging.
The same concepts, the same psychosis, using different terminologies. This they call "progress"....and some believe they've "overcome" and "surpassed" and "advanced" when they are running on a mental treadmill going nowhere...but feeling like they are making progress.

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The concept of 'eternal return' was always viewed by me as saying "YOLO". But not in the typical way of throwing everything away, but in its precise opposite meaning: everything has meaning. It takes courage to live by noble principles, where you'll put your life second. Those who take 'eternal return' to mean they can postpone and procrastinate are, I think, precisely the types of degenerates such a statement is meant to identify. Those who choose at the fork of interpretation to go with the worst and most degenerate. There are other such statements, but on a more metaphysical level that aren't psychologically obvious - and many degrees of layering the question can result in a covering of its meaning.
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That's true.
They want to make their suffering have some kind of meaning, and their own inferiority to have a divine, or some external reason that vindicates it, or constitutes it as an inevitability, i.e., part of some universal purpose or order.
I think of this as power through association. My weakness is part of a strength, so it contributes to this strength even in weakness.

Degenerates have misinterpreted text for centuries and there will always be charlatans born to update the lies that wills sell, within the context of socio-economic circumstances.
What does the mantra "all is subjective" imply, if not that it's all malleable and based on an opinion a perspective; it's all part of some wilful reasoning, even if it hurts them. They want the suffering to have a purpose, a reason.
Ambiguous text offers them leeway of interpreting and reinterpreting, because none of it is ever connected to the indifference of the fluctuating real.
Messianic complex is founded on this psychosis.

Let's not get into how they've interpreted Ubermensch.
The double meanings are, sometimes, intentional.

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If the eternal return was true, in an expanding, followed by retracting, repeating universe kind of way, then wouldn't this be the repeating ultimate deterministic universe?
I don't like this idea of the eternal return.
In regards to being noble in the face of the eternal return, is it not more to ask to be noble in the face of a non eternally returning life?
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The idea is mostly that you'll have to live forever with whatever decisions you make; if they are shameful then they will magnify in their intensity over generations of returning. It is a meme curative on the intersubjective feelingness of the ... simply nihilistic. The herd mentality. Those who view the world as humanity, with a memory, all their 'right side of history', if they have to eternally return then their death-wish nihilism no longer's comforting. They will experience first-hand the consequences of their lethargy.
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Yeah, they use the "we are on the right side of history" a lot.
They believe, as progressives, that the future will vindicate them.
It's more likely that people of the future will look back on them as another example of human decadence, produced when empires begin to decline.

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I bet many of you freaks think of me as beig anti-Semitic, when i am only anti-Jew.
A Jew is not the same as a Semite, no roe then an Arab is the same as a Muslim.
I am also anti-Greek for those who associate being Greek with being Orthodox-Christian,
I am against any nihilistic dogma, whatever name it gives itself. I am against nihilism.

I am against Zionism, because it's a pseudo tribal version of Judaism, pretending to be what it has denied.
You can't be both tribal and a victim of identity. If you are for your own tribe, then own it!!!
Don't hide behind the victim labels so that you can benefit from the double0-stadnard.
own your tribe, don't pretend you are some privileged victim class, which deserved special privileges, no matter what historical precedent is associated with it. If you have the "balls" to compete with other tribes on merit, then stand forth and present your identity clearly.
Show the world what you've given to it. Don't hide behind double-standards and pretences, and victimhood.
Show what you've contributed to human existence.
What benefits, but primarily what costs, because there are no benefits with no costs and no costs with no benefits.
Instead of using superstition and vague innuendoes and feminine methods of word manipulation, speak clearly and courageously and present your case for evaluation before the tribunal of nature.
Say, this is what my tribe has given mankind and this is what it has taken.
Stop lying to others and to yourselves.
Most of my kind buy your bullshit, but some few cannot and will not, ever.

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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
This seems to confirm my thoughts about how Rome was not a proper "Pagan" society, and even Alexander's Empire before that. To me a Pagan society is one that, to a large degree, remains within their geographical region. Despite their conquering origins, the Ancient Spartans, remained relatively isolationist. Historians will often cite a lack of resources and technology to explain it, but there are several Spartan quotes that illustrate a wise restraint towards the impulse of Conquest or at least Conquering lands that ones self will not defend or occupy.
"Being asked once how far the bounds of Sparta extended, he said, with a flourish of his spear, "As far as this can reach."

Christianity seems to be the Conquering impulse taken to its conclusion where they will use EVERYTHING, against you, like a miserly coward that waits for you to go to sleep before he tries to take your life, and then justifies himself by his results.

We as Europeans have an instinct of Honor that necessitates both men being aware of the other attempting to take their life and everything is left in the open for everyone to see who really thrives under the light.

Christianity pretends to adopt this "instinct" as a doctrine to appear noble and then proceeds to use subversion against European Pagans by attempting to seduce their women and children.

There have been several times when Ive attempted to point these things out to Christian Apologists like The Distributist and several others on twitter and i always get the fucking cold shoulder or some justification that they themselves would criticize a Jew for making against *them*. They never want to acknowledge the millions of Europeans dead because of them, they just want to sweep that under the rug or use it to flex their Egos against Pagans one second and then pretend to be meek and innocent, particularly against Jewish, Islamic, Secular influences, influences that grew under THEM, influences they REFUSE to take responsibility for.

Satyr wrote:
Show the world what you've given to it. Don't hide behind double-standards and pretences, and victimhood.

I wouldn't have a problem either with the Abrahamic "victory" if it was honest about the piles of bones its churches and temples are built upon but of course it is this fact it attempts to deny so it does not have to face any challengers, like modern "Alpha Males" who embrace modern leftist idealism for the sake of killing off their competition before they can pose a threat to their dominion. We have mentioned the need to not be foolhardy and take too many challengers... but for these moderns it is about never being challenged EVER again.





Despite the Catholic Church having the most "Pagan" garments, it hides one of the most desperate miserly attitudes of all.
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Nietzsche wrote:
Too great objective - He who has publicly set himself great objectives and afterwards realizes he is too weak for them is usually also too weak publicly to repudiate them, and then he unavoidably becomes a hypocrite.
This is the final conclusion of messianic, or the Messiah complex, or the Jesus Christ complex.
Public hypocrisy, hiding a secret feebleness, which is usually not even privately admitted.
It occurs intuitively.

Another way to say it is "The hand writes a check the ass cannot cover", resulting in a ass-hole, or anal complex, of self-retention.
See [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] in psychology.
Notice how money corresponds to faeces, and make the connections.
A sadistic relationship, exposing a repressed disgust with the object of outward desire.

A neurosis connecting money-hungry anality with the messianic complex.
Money becomes the Messiah, for Moderns - a way to save themselves from their own inheritance and/or to liberate th4smelves from their own determined and determining past.
Money is the modern secularized symbol of the Abrahamic Messiah, even to those who claim to believe Jesus has already redeemed them.

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