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The way out of this insanity...is paganism.

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The way out of this insanity...is paganism.
If i have learned anything from history, its that half-measured compromises have always failed and led to our current predicament. Christianity was the representation of avoiding paternal responsibility (like the roman soldier abandoning his bastard) and making the necessary harsh choices which maintained a balance in the past...all for the sake of efficiency. It is efficient to act as a proxy and not the source, it is efficient to learn through proxies and not the source, it is efficient to fight with proxies and not spill the blood of the source.

When one thinks of a ancient warrior, images of ancient armor and weapons come to mind, when what truly made one a warrior was the one underneath, who despite using proxies and technology to some degree, did not define his existence through them.

I refuse to give my potential children another proxy, like many parents today giving their children tablets/books/media to avoid the responsibility of fatherhood/motherhood.
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A tasteful Jewish Christmas tradition.
Smells like an exotic Christmas, just like the noes I used to know.

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The nature of absolutist mental trappings on display.
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What did I say about the mother/daughter relationship between Judaism and Christianity?
The Jews were the antithesis of the Romans.
Circumcision ritualized a mock castration indicating their surrender to the one-male, god.
Neurosis is a consequence of their embracing of nihilism - metaphorically inverted into the one 'god choosing them'. Neurosis often manifests sexually.


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Antithesis.
They celebrate not submitting to Hellenism.
You cannot mix oil with water.

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Jesus Christ was the sanctification of the individual in relation to his submission to Mosaic law. A freeing of it but of keeping oneself loyal to it as well. Like sailing away on a vast ocean from your country; you develop a sense of personal freedom and power, but never forget the spirit of your native country that you departed from. This is why these “intellectual” minds are attracted to the Christ belief. It offers a emancipatory self-empowering connotation that satisfies human psychology for ego, as well as keeping them structured to an ethical faith which satisfies their need for obedience to a “higher” purpose. This is why it is so insidious and infects so many minds. It is an ordered versatile faith.
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I remember how strange it was to see people kissing he priest's hand.
Never did so myself, even when I was forced to participate in these Christian rituals in my youth.
The only hands I kissed were those of my parents.

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Jesus Christ was the sanctification of the individual in relation to his submission to Mosaic law. A freeing of it but of keeping oneself loyal to it as well. Like sailing away on a vast ocean from your country; you develop a sense of personal freedom and power, but never forget the spirit of your native country that you departed from. This is why these “intellectual” minds are attracted to the Christ belief. It offers a emancipatory self-empowering connotation that satisfies human psychology for ego, as well as keeping them structured to an ethical faith which satisfies their need for obedience to a “higher” purpose. This is why it is so insidious and infects so many minds. It is an ordered versatile faith.
Christ is a powerful symbol of transformation from the physical to the ideological; from phenomena, multiplicity, to noumenon, singularity.
Only the mind can exceed natural order and chaos.
It is unhindered by reality. In the mind what is incompatible, or non-existent, can be synthesized and imagined.
Mind exceeds the body in another way. it can transmit itself from brain to brain, as idea, easier than a genes can transmit itself from body to body.
It can propagate in ways that the body cannot. It is 'immortal' because the idea can survive the death of the body.

This is the narrative of the Bible. Transformation of the physical into an idea, an abstraction, a feeling, a vague sensation, a concept that does not require clarification because it can survive, in the mind, far easier if it remain obscure. Its survival justifies mystification.
The more antithetical to the experienced it remain, via insinuation, the more seductive it is to the believer who is looking for a way out of reality.

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No, this ain't another "conspiracy theory", this is human deceit and hypocrisy.
If he hadn't his career would have been over.
You kiss the master's arse, and you get the cookie. He's only "looking out for your own good", mind you. his motives are always benevolent and aristocratic.

If this rotting empire does not collapse....this termite, will not stop chewing away at the foundations.

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Jew billionaires are too busy funding Zionism causes, and immigration policies that destroy their enemies to be bothered.
They need help...please, contribute.
No conspiracy.

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No, this ain't another "conspiracy theory", this is human deceit and hypocrisy.
If he hadn't his career would have been over.
You kiss the master's arse, and you get the cookie. He's only "looking out for your own good", mind you. his motives are always benevolent and aristocratic.

If this rotting empire does not collapse....this termite, will not stop chewing away at the foundations.

Haha. Their true virtues on display. The psychology of "antisemitism". Empowering the weak through persecution; a memetic martyrdom. Was not Jesus sanctified for being degraded on a cross? his inferiority made pure through the strength of his enemies. Its thier code of honor. Its how they maintain control.
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It's the "Israel test". Will you pass or will you fail the test?
Civilization, as we know it, began in Israel. There was nothing before Israel, and there will be nothing after it.
America is the greatest Israeli product. God bless America.
This ethnos produced so much technology, philosophy, art - yes art - that we, Europeans, cannot imagine life without their contributions.

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This pseudo-analysis mystifying Judaism, reminds me of the 'feminine mystique'.
It intentionally mystifies what is easily defined if one overcomes his post-modern prejudices and self-flattering delusions.
Every age considered itself the last or the highest, or the most moral, or free, or advanced to have ever existed or that will ever exist.

Messianism believes that the U.S. will either accomplish its salvation of mankind 'motive', commencing an age of utopian peace and prosperity, or it will fail, due to the evilness of the world, commencing a hell on earth.
We are infested with Abrahamic messianic neurosis. Most, in the west, are religious zealots, and they do not even know it.

Self deceit uses language to convince itself that it has 'overcome' superstitions of the past, or that 'progress' has been made.
They do so by renaming the same monist - monotheistic - concepts, and values, pretending that if you replace the concept of an absolute one-god, with the abstraction of an absolute one-order, or if you replace Armageddon with some ideology that preaches an end of existence, or humanity, or philosophy, or any end, that you have 'progressed', and have attained some kind of 'enlightened' state - no longer believing in empiricism, or races or sexes.....this is how they overcome the 'old' and 'outdated'....i.e., the tangible, the physical, their own body.
They've, supposedly, "elevated themselves" above their physical form - attaining enlightenment - meaning they identify only with their mind, which they refuse to define - preferring it to remain mysterious, obscure, magical; refusing to associate it with the physical brain; to localize it in the body.
What is the only way the mind can express itself?
Semiotics.
Semiotics (language), like in the Bible, become expressions of the divine, one-mind - communal conciousness, or universal order. Mathematics, especially.
They think they are secular, or that they've overcome the idea of god, but they haven't. they've only replaced the jargon with new and updated versions of the same.

Good & Evil have not been overcome. We haven't gone "beyond" these concepts.
We've renamed them.

In fact, I've demystified the feminine, as have many others, and I've offered my own definition of Judaism that explains their obscurantist identity, sometimes being genetic and then being memetic - ass the circumstances require.
They are not mysterious at all. They've simply adopted a novel survival strategy, and the talent to manipulate language, i.e., abstractions with no external references; ideas that remain theoretical but no less powerful when used in conjunction with an understanding of human nature.
Nihilistic inversion from gene<>meme, to meme<>gene - only possibly through linguistics.

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Messianism believes that the U.S. will either accomplish its salvation of mankind 'motive', commencing an age of utopian peace and prosperity, or it will fail, due to the evilness of the world, commencing a hell on earth.
We are infested with Abrahamic messianic neurosis. Most, in the west, are religious zealots, and they do not even know it.

Self deceit uses language to convince itself that it has 'overcome' superstitions of the past, or that 'progress' has been made.
They do so by renaming the same monist - monotheistic - concepts, and values, pretending that if you replace the concept of an absolute one-god, with the abstraction of an absolute one-order, or if you replace Armageddon with some ideology that preaches an end of existence, or humanity, or philosophy, or any end, that you have 'progressed', and have attained some kind of 'enlightened' state - no longer believing in empiricism, or races or sexes.....this is how they overcome the 'old' and 'outdated'....i.e., the tangible, the physical, their own body.
They've, supposedly, "elevated themselves" above their physical form - attaining enlightenment - meaning they identify only with their mind, which they refuse to define - preferring it to remain mysterious, obscure, magical; refusing to associate it with the physical brain; to localize it in the body.
What is the only way the mind can express itself?
Semiotics.
Semiotics (language), like in the Bible, become expressions of the divine, one-mind - communal conciousness, or universal order. Mathematics, especially.
They think they are secular, or that they've overcome the idea of god, but they haven't. they've only replaced the jargon with new and updated versions of the same.

Good & Evil have not been overcome. We haven't gone "beyond" these concepts.
We've renamed them.

Given the surrogate divinity within scientific rationalism that moderns worship, it is exactly this, which instills in them the same superstitions and religious fanaticism rooted in the same traditional fears and insecurities. From the "God Particle" to the liberal transhuman utopianism; it all follows the same pattern leading to the same outcome of a 'cultural reckoning' of awareness that would occur from a collision with the trauma of nature.

If there was a full scale war tomorrow, with bullets flying, bombs falling and "every man for himself" anarchy; these dutiful acolytes of reason and science and atheism, would fall thier knees and repent to God, or seek refuge in thier nearest church or religious institution.

It is an age of the fanatic; the obsessed, the impassioned blind, masking thier dependency on the same delusions they fight with all thier passion to overcome; it is this blind passion that Eric Hoffer speaks about, which reveals true motives of a true nature.
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What could be more enticing to widows and single women than never having to experience loss or rejection ever again?

God is no "alpha male", Alpha refers to a phenomena which is subject to risk and challenge, without which make such status claims meaningless. No, which is the sex which holds promise, seduction, and comfort as its primary means of engagement? and hides behind proxies that carry out its will?

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I would say - without having watched the vid - that the ideal of god, as an alpha-male, is similar to him as an ideal of the absolute oneness - the perfect and whole. And 'god' here is used in the Abrahamic context.
It is an anti-real ideal - if it could exist it would negate the real.
The mere existence of a singularity negates the experienced multiplicity - it absorbs experienced reality into its theoretical singularity - phenomena implode into the noumenon.


In the sexual context of an alpha-male this means that god, the idea, is an idealized conception of alpha-maleness - an alpha that can no longer be challenged - a monopoly, akin to the singularity.
In effect, it negates the sexual type alpha-maleness represents. It is an anti-nature, anti-reality, anti-masculinity idealized masculinity.
This is what nihilism is.
it construct a mental ideal, which if realized would negate/nullify experienced existence.
God, being a positive nihilistic construct, makes him the nullification of the imperfect human - biological, tangible - which can only aspire to become the ideal, without knowing that if it were possible it would end existence.
Man can only move towards the ideal - whatever you may call it. God as alpha or omnipotence or omniscience.
All these words imply the same central theme: an absolute state that can only 'exist' as a mental construct....like a singularity, or frozen fire, or whatever mental absurdity man can imagine and name.

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The vid was of a queen who was widowed and after exacting revenge for her husband, went on to adopt Christianity. She was among the first to spread it among the Slavs, this goes back to the "single mother" theme expressed in the Abrahamic tradition. Her son remained Pagan but then her grandson "Vladimir the Great" succumbed and finished the conversion process in Rus. Ive always hated that title "the Great", as if their deeds could not speak for themselves.

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anti-masculinity idealized masculinity

This is what im having so much trouble understanding, how can one not see this as miserly and cowardly? Like a king that fights to the top, only to live a profligate life and grow fat, thinking himself entitled to never fighting or feeling stress again. I know many of us are guilty of "settling down" to a degree, but we wouldn't feel entitled to freedom from stress forevermore.

EDIT: I guess a king's ascent is not even a good analogy since there is no ascent either for an abstraction.
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Abrahamism, being the expression of spiritual nihilism, defines concepts 'out of existence', as I often say.
Essentially it converts concepts into pure abstractions, adapting the semiology to reflect this modification.
They do the same with concepts such as 'freedom', and 'value', and 'love', and 'morality'...any word they can manage to convert into a pure abstraction, with a positive spin, they do so.
It must be 'positive' so as to be marketable or easily accepted even by the most stringently sceptical mind.
It's 'positive spin' is what seduces and overcomes reasonable reservations in the psychology of individuals that are seeking relief from existence.

What this does is it subjectifies concepts. Its reference is not entirely in the minds of those who share the understanding of the concept. There is no objective reference to measure it against.

Consider 'god' as the moderns have defined the term?
It is antithetical to pagan definitions.
God is now an abstraction that not only has no references in experienced reality but it contradicts such experiences. This is what makes it seductive to human need for existential relief.
God is an alpha-male that cannot be challenged....which is like a truth that cannot be falsified. It remains, as idea/ideal, beyond all proof, reasoning, evidence....
It is the alpha that cannot be replaced.
Now, consider what this implies and what psychology it produces and feeds into.
It is the quintessential beta-male ideal. Parity underneath this 'alpha' means all are equally beneath - so a relief from comparisons with others in existence.
A king that cannot be overthrown makes all minions of his monopolizing authority.

Think about how this also applies to other concepts that have been defined out of existence - in the non-existent realm called 'beyond' or 'occult'.
Consider how the idealization - mystification - of 'love' affects man's conciousness. Who can ever find such an idealized version of 'love' in the real world, populated with real people?
Consider how the concept 'freedom' has been defined out of existence, or defined unrealistically. In this case it makes all equally slaves, equally enslaved.

Go down the list of words that have bee defined within nihilistic paradigms.
This is mind-control.
That these definitions have become conventional, over centuries of indoctrination and repetition, only proves how successful this method is.
Orwell described it.
It is so effective that those born and raised within its dominion refuse to exit its self-referential, sheltering, premises.

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The real can be given many different linguistic explanations, whereas the nihilistic is word-specific, because it does not exist outside the mind, as a reaction to the existent.

The concept, for example, of "alpha" can discard its Greek pretentiousness and simply be called 'dominant', because it refers to a behavioural type - it exists in the world.
The term was coined by David Mech used to refer to a wolf-packs dominant breeding pair.
Since then it is used to refer to fitness and breeding. He or she who has more potential to pass on his/her genes - later we can include memes - is referred to as 'alpha', and is characterized by specific psychosomatic traits indicating and explaining his/her social status - because alpha is always a social reference and so it is usually used to refer to social species with a social hierarchy.
When referring to species that are not social, such as bears, the reference is in relation to when they gather in groups to either fish or to mate - against establish a hierarchy of dominance reflecting their genetic potentials.

In Abrahamism there is no possibility of usurping the dominant 'pseudo-male' or idealization of masculinity, forcing all biological males into a subservient position - Feminization of Man.
This is repeated in secular forms, such as States, that convert masculinity into an abstraction represented by the institution. a biological male - not necessarily so - can only hope to gain the status of being its representative - like a priest is of god. Power through association.
He, or she, can represent the masculine monopoly of the idealization of maleness, without actually being anything of any genetic or memetic quality - in fact even women and children can rise to this role because it is entirely symbolic.
Here, again, we see a detachment of the genetic from the memetic - an abstractive distancing which produces dissonance.
A "leader" need not be male, or be genetically related to the masses he dominated through the institution - the traits he requires to fill in this role are more feminine than masculine. He becomes a sort of 'wife' to the abstraction - see how Mary was inseminated by the abstraction of the Abrahamic one-god.
In Catholicism this is clear, as the priest abandons his masculinity to become wedded to God - as church.
But even in traditions where marriage is allowed the priestly sort has distinct feminine qualities - or must have in order to be a good one.
This is also true of Presidents. Too much masculinity threaten the mediocre masses so the politician must prove his docility and his ability to be non-threatening and seductive to as many voters as possible, if he hopes to acquire their vote of confidence - this, after he has been thoroughly vetted, in secret and in preparation for his run for office.

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