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PostSubject: culling methods, overpopulation, interpretations, and dispelling hypocrisy. Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:44 am

so i've been thinking. at my age my body is in a lot of pain, physically and mental, computer labor makes my back ache. i am at because of the choices i made. now some may say there is a genetic reason for where i am. the black side of me has always wanted to enter paradise, without having to work hard. the white side of me and my high intelligence was always afraid of being a slave and doing dreary, repetitive tasks.

so i been thinking about the pain i am in and my back pain and lack of energy. I think the world thinks this is good, because i am going to take somebody's job. People deep down dont want you to have a job, everything is highly competitive. If i get a job, that means i am taking money from somebody else. the world is overpopulated to the point where having a job is not contributing to society, but the opposite. all markets are oversaturated and people would be better off with less people in it. So me in my poverty and misery, and back pain, people celebrate. Back pain, low energy means i am not as effective a worker. The less effective worker i am, the less chance i will enter the market and be competition. So people are actually celebrating that i am in pain. Therefore, there is a moral hypocrisy here. People want to help you for a day or two, but most would rather you don't succeed, because if you do that makes you competition in an oversaturated market. Therefore everyone, deep down, is rooting for everyone else to fail. This is of course, a moral hypocrisy.

the amount of wealth the wealthy people have is ridiculous. the elite have 99% of the wealth when everybody has 1%. this creates a furious competition where people are battling just to be slaves and pay rent. The wealthy are ruining everything by hording the wealth. wealth chart [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

personally i believe in a massive welfare state due to market oversaturation. the wealthy have to contribute a little, poor and middle class dont have to contribute anything. if you dont agree with this i dont care. this is mathematically derived and nothing to do with ethics. the stock market crash in the 1930's was caused by market oversaturation, specifically, too much food production and too many farmers. we do not need more workers or more food. 50% of the food in america goes to waste anyway. we do not need more gadgets and gizmos, 100% of them become obsolete in one year. we do not need more transportation, traffic jams occur daily as it is. the american economy is not real, it is an inflationary ponzi scheme in which the actual value of the goods do not matter, what matters is your ability to create an illusion that your goods are valuable, what matters is that you can dominate your rivals and appear to be powerful.

second the only 4 things that have value are intelligence, ethics, taste, and hard work. intelligence determines the efficiency of production/society, ie. computer tech. ethics and taste are related. ethics and taste determines the quality of life of society, ie. incentive to want to partake in society in the first place. since in modern times people have hypocritical ethics, and increasingly poor taste people are losing interest in furthering society ie. red pill movement. Personally when I see a beautiful, gorgeous woman it feels me with envy and rage, what i see is a beautiful thing I am sexually attracted to but can never have, not until I acquire a frivolous amount of wealth for the hefty price tag attached, of course the odds of which are totally against me due to a case of extreme market oversaturation. Hard work, slave labor, is of course the other valuable thing, you need dumb retards to do the jobs that intelligent people dont want to do (or are sheerly psychologically incapable of doing), of course in the coming years this can all be accomplished with robots entirely.

therefore the state of overpopulation is not mainly a problem of natural ecosystem or the health of the planet, rather it is a problem of market economics. However, health of the planet/ecosystem is also a secondary issue. so if overpopulation is a real issue then the obvious solution is culling.

the most logical solution to culling is to simply euthanize those deemed ready for culling. however as aforementioned we have ethics and taste to consider, we are not savages. Thus for a small cost we can simply castrate those ready for culling and spare their lives. eunuchs were a valid method in the past and so i dont see why not now. this will have a cost of having to feed them for the rest of their lives, however food in america is an excess so i dont see it being a major problem. Therefore what is left is having a sane method for culling. Personally I believe all religious people should be culled however that leaves us with a problem...without religion who in their right mind would slave away at a slave job? without nihilism what incentive would their be to be a poor worker drone, with no hope of a perfect utopian afterlife? These are valid concerns however with robots, they will not be needed anymore. Castrate all the religious people. By castrate I mean literally cut off their balls. In the words of Joker the city's not gonna castrate itself, grab some birdizzos and better get to castrating people.
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PostSubject: Re: culling methods, overpopulation, interpretations, and dispelling hypocrisy. Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:25 pm

Existence is naturally competitive, the incentive to work which equates to survival is a good enough incentive in and of itself. Everything below this just dies, everything extremely above this also dies. Robots at the very depth of their meaning become a representation of what humans once were, a technological rebirth an immortality of the human spirit where the robots' creation became the objective of the human existence.

Can the human spirit, the life energy, the essence of what makes us what we are be captured and extracted and birthed into the robotic form? if not, then the machine remains to be a machine, regardless of how sophisticated it becomes, it still remains to be a machine..

Human stimulation in the context of collective competition is what gives birth to civilization, had it not been for this then the natural competition will only be shifted towards natural phenomenon.

The nature of the civilization is in contradiction of the nature that surrounds it and also the essence of the cycle of life. It's attempting to save everyone into an ideal, most likely robots will serve greatly in creating  a utopia on earth. Then what will become of the humans? will they not just fight? and start to kill each other..become stagnant? ill? will it not just give them more time to be preoccupied with differences among each other?

wont nature still be nature after all?
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PostSubject: Re: culling methods, overpopulation, interpretations, and dispelling hypocrisy. Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:54 pm

gafr wrote:
Existence is naturally competitive, the incentive to work which equates to survival is a good enough incentive in and of itself. Everything below this just dies, everything extremely above this also dies. Robots at the very depth of their meaning become a representation of what humans once were, a technological rebirth an immortality of the human spirit where the robots' creation became the objective of the human existence.
Techniques are externalizations of man's knowledge and understanding of internal psychological processes (mind/psyche); technologies are externalizations of man's knowledge and understanding of self (body).

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Can the human spirit, the life energy, the essence of what makes us what we are be captured and extracted and birthed into the robotic form? if not, then the machine remains to be a machine, regardless of how sophisticated it becomes, it still remains to be a machine..
What is an organism?
the presence of the sum of all past nurturing.....the pinnacle of a continuum, causality connected by memory.
When you create a robot, a mechanical organism you are taking what you know of this continuum and detaching it from the natural biological causality chain , you create a copy of a small segment of it.
The robot is not part of the continuum, through genes, but is a detached and replicated segment.
When you have a child it is not detached from the genetic continuum, but is part of an unbroken process, linking it, through you and the mother, to a past.

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Human stimulation in the context of collective competition is what gives birth to civilization, had it not been for this then the natural competition will only be shifted towards natural phenomenon.

The nature of the civilization is in contradiction of the nature that surrounds it and also the essence of the cycle of life. It's attempting to save everyone into an ideal, most likely robots will serve greatly in creating  a utopia on earth. Then what will become of the humans? will they not just fight? and start to kill each other..become stagnant? ill? will it not just give them more time to be preoccupied with differences among each other?

wont nature still be nature after all?
Memes are extensions of genes.
Ideas are representations of reality.

If the meme, the culture, is in conflict with natural processes, or the degree to which it contradicts them, is the degree to which it is antagonistic toward nature.
All organisms want to increase their survival/growth potentials, so this antagonism is part of the life-environment relationship.
But some memes are so survival obsessed that they are willing to sacrifice their nature to the altar of survival.
They do so by using language, or symbols, representing concepts, that invert experienced reality.
These memes are Nihilistic.
They are not merely antagonistic (agon) but they contradict existence (nullify).
These memes are not viable, if they are applies in practice as they are in theory.
So they are hypocritical - believing one thing and acting in opposition to it.
This is where 'sin' comes in as an explanation, or excuse.
Shame is converted to guilt because guilt can be paid for with punishment.
Modern nihilists live a life making amends for the lies they tell themselves and others, hoping that if they sacrifice or punish themselves enough, then they will be given eternal life after death - a contradiction in itself.
The biggest lie necessitating all the rest.
Nihilism is a way of keeping the masses placated - it is political.
It makes their minds into zombie mush.

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