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PostSubject: Re: Movies - short reviews, recommendations, opinions, discussions... Movies - short reviews, recommendations, opinions, discussions... - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 02, 2019 10:13 am

The Joker: A post-modern Caricature
A variant of Hannibal - another fascinating psychological depiction of the Modern psychosomatic condition; one I've extensively analysed.
The Joker is a slightly modified version representing a type that cannot integrate, as graciously as Lecter could; cannot perform the act of character masking a secret personae.
Joker is upfront - the everyday, simple variant of someone who has been broken by society and the hypocritical reality it conceals, as it attempts to mitigate between man and an indifferent natural order.



The Joker is an icon of cynical nihilism - a by-product of Modernity
It is, for this reason, disturbing to a society claiming victimhood as a declaration of purity ant its worthiness to be saved/liberated, because not only are we not all potential jokers - ergo no origins story is necessary - but it also reveals the "origins" in us all - all who participate in this modern social environment participate in the creation of jokers.
We are the "victims' of our own actions and choices....similar to how the MRA's, back in the day, could not accept the rejection of paternalism as the source of feminism but also of their own 'misery' and passive-aggressive psychology; their "turning away"..
The original MRA's could not accept that their own rejection of paternalism, mirroring that of feminism, was the very source of their sexual predicament. They could not stomach the idea that their own idealism was the very reason they found themselves in their predicament, and so they had to find another to blame, i.e., women.
This shows a deep ignorance about what males/females are in nature; what role they play and how they do so - an idealization of masculinity/femininity, where the feminine "failed" to rise up to the ideal's presumption.
Instead of blaming their own idealizations, or understanding, they had to blame females....mirroring the method females use to explain why they fail to excel in some more intellectually demanding fields where males dominate.

The possibility that our own ignorance and naivete about males/females, can be the very source for the creation of social misfits, like the one depicted by The Joker, is something we cannot entirely grasp, other than on a superficial and casual way.

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Looks like a good movie, theatre like, I like movies that mimic theatre the most, Bronson with Tom Hardy was similar.
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IMDB wrote:
Todd Phillips was born on December 20, 1970 in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, USA as Todd Bunzl.
Wikipedia wrote:
When asked in a 2014 interview by the BBC if he believes in God, Phillips replied: "Personally I don't. But I believe there's a higher power, a collective energy in people that you might say is God".
A people, a chosen people, maybe call them a tribe.

Haven't seen the movie but I always found it suspicious that they didn't simply remove the movie from the cinemas if it was all so dangerous and politically incorrect. It's "controlled opposition" the movie. Making the Hangover movies, Borat, probably most of the shit on that list, is not an accident, it's who you are.
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From the comments:

I don't know, society will make him into an (anti-)hero, someone for people to look up to, someone to make movies about, someone who is the new "cool".

So Joker's henchmen are like anti-fa, according to grifteur de conservative Tim Pool.
I see also comments under that video saying "Joker is saner than the leftists."
If Joker's henchmen are like anti-fa then this movie is probably rather raising people's sympathy for anti-fa.
Haven't seen the movie yet but from experience I know there is nothing more of a shooting your own foot than believing the takes of conservatard grifters.
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It's about spinning a negative into a positive - inverting.



Imagine how a young male, raised with particular values and principles - ideologies - would feel when he realizes that they were responsible for his most crucial predicament....his sexual gratification and investment in the system.
Imagine being told that Paternalism is bad, yet without it the feminized utopia fails to materialize.
Imagine awakening to the fact that paternalism was what ensure male investment and procreation, and that without it the entire sexual games reverts to primal nature, only this time females have abortion clinics and the day after pill to help them be more promiscuous, like males.
Imagine being so infected with nihilism that this just cannot be processed, so you begin blame others, e.g., women, the government, ideologies in general...society.
Anything and everything but yourself, and your own gullibility and idiocy...because you fell for that pile of shit.

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'global culture' of 'internet', a dumb movie made by warner bros and a producer of hangover movies about a comic character from batman stirs a societal debate, division, celebration, condemnation...same level of discussion as politics...has history really ended?
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BAP's take on the Joker movie.
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Yes, an Incel who is mentally troubled and lives with his mother, and this is why he is an Incel.

Movies are thermometers that take the culture's temperature. It is now suffering from fever.
Art exposing the disease of a culture - in this case a culture-of-no-culture.
The predicament of Americanism, and of the man-child, the emasculated male, who cannot earn enough money to purchase the affections of a female.
Feminism not only returned to their sexual power, but armoured with technologies, such as the pill and abortion clinics, protected by institutions, directed their anger towards males that fail to live-up to their idealized imagination of what they ought to be like; frustrated because the only males they can get are beta charlatans who will do anything to get laid, including debasing themselves.

The myth was that when females were emancipated the world would settle upon its ordered goodness; love would spread, all would find mates and live happily ever after. When this romantic naive idealism - like so many others - failed to materialize they had to find a scapegoat.
Joker is a version of this scapegoat.
Although all diversity is good, his eccentricity is creepy and undesirable.

Mutations are rarely fit. Most, like homosexuality, are distinctly unfit, in the truest sense of the word.
Homosexuality emerges from heterosexual reproduction . it is, itself unable to reproduce itself - this is unfit.
So, although homosexuality, lime infanticide, rape, paedophilia are part of the natural cycle, they are usually an indication of some form of imbalance; or a behaviour indicating stress.
Like albinism, the exception usually points to some abnormality in the rule.
in this case Joker is born with an unfit genetic profile, which is exacerbated by environmental circumstances, until he snaps.

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Weakness begets weakness when it masquerades as strength. This Joker hype will blow over soon enough, like all the other pop cultural hypes, and everyone will ease comfortably back into their hedonism and wage slavery, oblivious, business as usual. It is another symptom however, of the disease of a culturally handicapped spirit of the age. Heath Ledger's successor, (Phoenix) will ride this wave as long as he can.

I have no desire to watch it. Movies aren't for me anymore. I'd rather simply watch some sensible commentator offer some half-way interesting analysis on it, understand the gist of it, spare myself the agony and call it a day.

The act of laughing, can be construed as a civil dispelling of negative energies. Modern people are full of sick energies that need release, but need it through some acceptable legal outlet which can take on some "self-expression" innuendo so as to appear harmless, and then they can indulge other impulses which are more deranged and violent. Remember Tyler Durden's observation when Jack laughs? "You have kind of a sick desperation in your laugh." he says. The Joker is the outlet that moderns need. Deep down, they crave it and love it.
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The more I see and hear about the Joker movie the more I begin to think that all that J-media outrage was a deliberate marketing tactic, not only to make money but mostly to gain back control over what the "incel" type consumes in terms of media and to give him an "edgy" kosher steak.
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Multiple purposes are served.
Perhaps an inspiring folk hero for Incels to rally around - because mass killings keeps the masses scared and receptive.
Nothing makes the judgement soft than anxiety. What seems ridiculous suddenly begins to gain possibility, when fear is injected into the mind.

It got a clown, like Trump, elected.
Low level anxiety keeps the masses edgy and manipulable. Like a tiny flame burn on a metal wire.

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https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=mass%20shooting
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=joker
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=wolverine
Definately blew up, searches for mass shootings coincided with joker a month ago but joker is still extremly popular whilst the theme of mass shootings felt down rapidly.
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Being trapped in the ephemeral notions about why things like this come about, is what perpetuates the problem of decadence. People are too stupid to understand the reason for these cultural sicknesses--and this Joker now highlighting them--doesn't lie in popular biases about 'incels', or "white male marginalization", but from the original source; that of individualism, specifically of the American type, which began the decaying process of stripping off the fabric of civilization into atomized automatons.

Satyr points out the other main source, the collapse of paternalism. A competent geneticist, trying to understand how a virus works, doesn't focus on the symptoms, he maps its origins.
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I would replace "religiocity' with "spirituality".
When all is inverted then there is no external world to offer us meaning, purpose, a resistance to test ourselves against - to find ourselves.
Nihilism is esoteric - a turning inward or toward another mind suffering from the same disease.

Then one turns to drugs, to hedonism to any form of escapism.
It manufacturers desperate lost degenerates, hoping their degeneracy will offer an extraordinary insight, some occult meaning only a few, "chosen" can see....and then in despair wanting to destroy the world that failed to meet their naive, delusional expectations.

And it all begins with self-awareness.

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I'm beginning to lose interest in watching the movie.
I might wait for it to to be available for free.

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I like his insight into the "Jewish femininity" that the Joker exhibits. More on point than all the other mediocre critics so far. All in all, it is just another rehashed piece of cinema Hollywood shit. I'm so thankful there are people like this who can do the watching for me.
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But Stephan....it is female nature to be attracted to dominating, aggressive males.
If this natural impulse becomes corrupted, by environmental circumstances - such s those that produce homosexuality or paedophilia, or voyeurism and so on - that's another matter.
Single mothers do bring into the household strange,, sometimes demented males.
I know because I was once involved with one. Was in my early twenties and I had sex with her five year-old daughter in the room.  
Later, I was thinking about what had happened and decided that she's nobody I want to be with. A woman who allows a male to have sex with her in front of her own child.
My consciousness was undisturbed because I felt nothing for her. She was not on my level, so I felt no sympathy...only empathy.

But this is not a rare thing.
Single mothers bring males into homes where their children are present - strange, sometimes fucked up violent males. Males who do not give a shit about her children.
Now think about it.
Think about what happens to the psychology of a child who listens their own mother fornicating with a strange male....and this males abuses them - beats them, or is verbally abusive, or may even rape them.
Think of its psychology.
Especially young boys experiencing their own mother's with multiple males. Young boys with no father figure.

So, yes, females are attracted to aggressive, strong, intimidating males. If these females are fucked up they become attracted to psychopaths, murderers, narcissists, and all kinds of fucked up individuals.  
Have you heard of the love letters serial killers receive in prison - some get married while in prison.
There are men who can't get laid,. while holding a job and being upstanding citizens, and serial killers, thieves, killers, and all kinds of demented psychotics get married while in prison.  
To understand this you must let go of your naive, romantic idealism.
Sex is not some pure, mystical experience....at its core it is aggressive. It can become mystical, because of this....because a female, in particular, often has to become enamoured - placed in a state of lustful paroxysm - her body flooding with biochemicals that make her receptive, that inhibit her automated fight/flight mechanism - she has to become cock-drunk, as they often call it - the very smell of a males sweat, otherwise unpleasant - becomes an morphine laced chemical high.

Liberating females has resulted in the mass production of psychotics and desperate degenerates of many varieties.

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From BAP's Caribbean Rhythms show #9, on the Joker movie -

BAP is also right on the lameness of Joker considering himself to be mentally ill. What a loser "super villain" who believes liberal social worker narratives about himself. That's not a maniac godlike, it's a desperate degenerate, another zombie in the herd.
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Yes....he is made desperate by the eradication of paternalism and the destruction of the traditional family, and in his desperation he turns to degeneracy to relieve his passions....mostly his resentment against a world that denies him access to the future and denies him an investment in the present.
He is the representation of chaos because he, like many Incels, and other free-radicals, has nothing to lose.
He laughs at all human order, because he does not participate in it - anarchy.
Having nothing to lose makes him dangerous.

Anglo-Saxon resentment finds its voice through Hollyjood "artistry" - an alliance of historical victims venting its hatred for mankind.

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I finally watched the movie Joker...after the lines had thinned and I could enjoy a semi-private screening in almost empty theatres - a few incels making me feel anxious and afraid that I may be one of them.

It's a character sketch of the Cynic/Psychopath, from the Abrahamic perspective.
Remember those posts I made last year about the Psychopath/Cynic, as the "pure nihilistic" antipode to the "positive nihilistic", Narcissism & Schizophrenia?
Well, this is a depiction of Joker as an incel, born of bad genes; absent, sub-standard or unknown father, from a broken down family structure, resorting to cynicism - laughter - as his only release.
The final break is perfectly depicted.
It's the use of comedy to deal with the tragedy of their personal existence. Constant cynical remarks ridiculing what makes them feel anxious; constant psychotic behaviour as a consequence of this "pushing away" - laughing away - reality; cynically dealing with thoughts & deeds - that do not dare reveal themselves; issues with law & order and all forms of authority, referring to a parental figure that failed them.
The movie, made by the "chosen", for us who are not chosen, explains the cynic as the product of decreasing state funding that could keep the meds flowing.
No, this is their version. Not mine.
The truth is they created the environment that produces this form of nihilism.

I offer my positions on the opposite end of this bipolar disease - the "positive nihilist" manifests in its extreme as Narcissism & Schizophrenia; on the other end, the extreme of "pure nihilism" we have Psychosis & Cynicism.
Don't want to look for it now.
{I wrote on Narcissism & Schizophrenia as the extreme psychological by-product of "positive nihilism"; years alter I added Psychosis & Cynicism as the extreme psychological by-product of "pure nihilism"}
Joker is their version of this - a by-product of their ideologies. They have to explain it as a mental disorder and a system with not enough funding to deal with individual psychological issues.
Single parenthood, exposing the child to strangers with all sorts of possible emotional and mental disorders, is glossed over. Many single mothers in this film. Just as there are in reality. Absent fathers; strange males entering the home to gratify female passions; children exposed to all forms of degeneracy.
In the movie all the "clowns" are Caucasians, wearing masks. The psychotherapists are Negro females. Draw your own conclusions.

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To me it looks like this push-back against "wokeness" will bring us back to something like the 90s culturally.
A time where cucks were respected. Where you could be a respectable cuck with respectable egalitarian views.
But it will be even better than the 90s. Now you will be edgy and radical as an egalitarian cuck.

The women will swoon and say: "Kevin, tell me again about equality and human rights, you bad ass."
Okay, maybe the women won't really be into it that much but I'm sure they will make movies about it, selling this fantasy.
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Some high aesthetics in this birth of Rome movie. I hope Italian cinema continues on like this and becomes Europes finest once again.
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Joker is just another variant of the Tyler Durden alter-ego symbol.
A simmering resentment in the minds of incels, or excluded from the gene-pool males; free-radicals, un-invested in the system.
Mostly of European ethnic origins, in the American dominated west.
In both movies the social 'loser' is converted to a 'sexy' alter-ego rebel.

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Warhammer 40k fan-movie Helsreach.




How he made it. Pretty interesting one-man show.




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