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Twain, Mark wrote:
It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.

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Sounds familiar?
We are moving towards a Chinese dominated world.
It's social credit system replacing the American monetary credit system.

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The growing acceptance of that view make it possible to preserve hierarchical forms of organization in the guise of 'participation'. It provides a society dominated by corporate elites with an anti-elitist ideology. The popularization of therapeutic modes of thought discredits authority, especially in the home and the classroom, with leaving domination un-criticized. Therapeutic forms of social control, by softening or eliminating the adversary relation between subordinates and superiors, make it more and more difficult for citizens to defend themselves against the state or for workers to resist the demands of the corporation.
As the ideas of guilt and innocence lose their moral and even legal meaning, those in power no longer enforce their rules by means of the authoritative edicts of judges, magistrates, teachers, or preachers. Society no longer expects authorities to articulate a clearly reasoned, elaborately justified code of law and morality; nor does it expect the young to internalize the moral standards of the community. It demands only conformity to the conventions of everyday intercourse, sanctioned by psychiatric definitions of normal behavior.

The criterion of validation shifts from integrity to survival at all costs; from the death principle to the pleasure principle - from masculine to feminine.
The standard for evaluating and justifying is internalized, i.e., subjectified.
The momentum inverts from a movement towards increasing levels of objectivity towards increasing levels of subjectivity; the external, empirical, becomes inter-subjective.
If you add to this miasma the rejection of free-will then we return to that ancient spiritual totalitarianism of divine justice, only now it acquires updated semiology, e.g., hard-determinism, absolute order; "salvation from sin" is preserved in the ideal of "freedom" from culpability, where man surrenders to an external agency - individuality is "purified" (returned to innocence) when it accepts its inclusion in an external order (herd psychology par excellance).
Rejecting all "earthly authorities" becomes a Judeo-Puritan call to nullify the experienced world, and surrender to the abstract: submit only to an occult, absolute order underlying perceptions, i.e., divine authority updated to universal.
Rebellion against the apparent so as to submit to the abstract, non-apparent: rejection of the Olympian multiplicity so as to give oneself completely to the Abrahamic singularity.

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Dumbing Down: partly the consequence of miscegenating, partly the by-product of Leftist propaganda, partly the by-product of immigration, partly the by-product of institutionalized "diversity".
Barbarians gradually take over Rome from its native originators....and its fate was sealed....beginning with the infiltrations of foreign, Afro-asiatic, spiritual dogmas and their world-views.

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Ghetto psychology dominates.
Unable or unwilling to assimilate: exclusionary exclusivity.
Those who are unwilling spread it to those who are unable.





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A testament to America on its last leg. It has reduced itself down to whatever desperate vestiges of its relegated self-importance to broadcast to the world, still living in the delusion that it is the exemplar of cultural quality, the 'global standard', through its clownish virtue-signaling. Like a whore who has been passed around and used to the point of being diseased and ugly and yet still tries to cling to her lost beauty by parading herself around in gross makeup, desperately hoping she still has real value and worth, unwilling to accept reality.
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I think she's more fucked up than people know.

Given the obvious patterns of her behavior, i truly believe she suffers from an actual undiagnosed mental disorder. Her distinct manic laughter dysfunction shows a real aberration, its like tourette syndrome, it explodes out of her, a compulsion she has no control over, and when shes overtaken by it she looks like she is having a full body spasm or something. Very ill.
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Her mental illness is readily apparent to anybody with common sense.

She is unlikeable and was rated one of the worst during the Democratic Primaries.


God help us all when Biden's dementia overtakes him, which it probably will before his term is out.
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A really good share..

I checked-out another of his videos to check him out.. the guy is consistently funny without being intolerant or prejudiced etc.. he delivers a genuinely objective assessment of the world.

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His only fault is that he's a homo. A fat homo, which goes against type.

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The decline of the traditional family, resulting in bad or missing fathers, has produced an industry of gurus.
We can debate the cause, but it is rooted, in my opinion, in spiritual nihilism - Abrahamism - ironically. The Testaments are full of anti-family rhetoric directed in allegory. That Abrahamism has become the bastion of family values, in the west, requires deeper analysis, of the reasons and the motives.
It has to do with "positive" nihilism, and the replacement of the tangible with the intangible, e.g., replacement of a flesh & blood father figure with an idea, such as god, or an abstraction.
That aside, young males have no living ideals. All they have are dead idols - they allow themselves to imagine in however they need - or ideologies - based on semiotics - or they inevitably seek alternatives on-line - full of al kinds of charlatans and well-meaning individuals - such as Peterson - who are given great wealth and power that they may take advantage of, because they never actually share the painful truths - if they know them at all - out of fear that they may lose their audience - blemish their popularity - or be persecuted for word-crimes.

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His only fault is that he's a homo. A fat homo, which goes against type.

Maybe he should try Keto.. 🤷

I wouldn’t have thought him homosexual, but I didn’t watch/only listened to, the ending, where I now see he all in tasteless dress and bad wig.
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Being an outliner gives you a clear perspective - at least it ought to.


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I guess that Anglo-Puritan Christian Settlers were least restricted of Post-Christian Sects and Religion as accord to their 'interpretations' of the Bible, hence in the United States, Christianity has diverged into Evangelicalism, Mormonism, Scientology, and a dozen other smaller variants, all which claim to "support the family". I agree with the contradiction inherent within Abrahamism, a system that automatically overrules Paternalism with 'God'ly divine authority and rules. Thus 'God' is the true Father or 'Pater' of Christian families. This requires cognitive dissonance and mental hula-hoops for Christian Priests to validify and overrule. In US History, at least, the Protestants were able to remove themselves from the Anglican Priestly authorities in Great Britain, and Catholicism in Rome, and thus able to reinterpret the Bible and Christianity freely on their own terms, which they did and have done for the past 300-400 years in the West.

This loose earthly authority has allowed most Christians throughout the West to retain racial & ethnic unity along with many traditions. These are resistant factors against Marxism and Postmodernism, which appear politically and culturally:

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Yes, Abrahamism promotes a superficial masculinity, as a earthly representations of the one and true masculine ideal and father-figure, divine Alpha.
The Jews symbolize their spiritual emasculation with the ritual of circumcision, Christians and Muslims with various self-abenegating emasculating rituals, such as kneeling or bowing...
The One-God of Abraham was the "true father" of Abraham's one-begotern son, and Sarah was not Abraham's to give away, just as Jesus was not Joseph's son, nor was Mary his wife.
Males become mental eunuchs responsible for the Lord's harem, only they are not castrated, other than symbolically, because the master is incorporeal - their testicles and penis are his.

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Speaking of superficial masculinity:

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Some of this Anglo-Saxon - Puritan - perspective has been transferred to the new world, injected by Afro-Asiatic occultism to produce present day American messianism, and its decline.

The root of its greatest advantages also holds the roots of its greatest disadvantages.

Britain - or what remains of this English Empire - continues to be what it has become after the end of the second war: an extension of American dominion.
A reversal that began with the American War of Independence and was solidified by its Civil War outcome.
Child becomes parent to its parent - cycle of life.

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Americanism, like many ideologies, conceals itself as it pretends to reveal itself.
This is more so for nihilistic spiritual dogmas and secular political ideologies, because they must linguistically conceal their self-contradictory principles so as to not reveal their underlying foundational anti-life, anti-nature, anti-existence motives.

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This is not one of the many causes of American decline, it is a symptom of systemic conflicts and contradictions.
Charades are tolerable - even effective - when times are good, but when they go bad there is no illusion that can escape notice, because then it all becomes a matter of survival rather than pleasure.

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Some good points on the coming decades and AI, along with other freakish developments are in-store for humanity:

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As I've noted...

Globalism = Americanism.
Judeo-Protestant morality; social liberalism; one-god replaced by money, represented by mathematical binaries - to be "blessed" is to be wealthy, to be damned is to be poor; if you are loyal to the State and to is logos, i.e., its word, you will be rewarded.
Hyper-Indivinualism - divide and control, substituting heritage, i.e., race, sex, tradition, with materialism, i.e., market values.
Converting individuals into producers/consumers of product, identifying with the means of production/consumption - individuals with no past, and with only a presence and a future - some without any future either, since most will remain un-investged. Shrinking identity to a span equal to that of a human lifespan.
This is the foundation of the current Transhuman crisis threatening the foundations of Americanism because they did not foresee the consequences nor the push-back.
Like all forms of nihilism if it remains true to its own principles it collapses - it can only survive in an ideal world, full of ideal people and circumstances, and with no alternatives; similar to communist Utopias that fail because there is always an alternative they cannot compete against, consequently the world' proletariat must rise simultaneously to bring about the ideal circumstances, by eliminating all competing world-views and socioeconomic systems.
As a consequence nihilistic spiritual dogmas ands secular political ideologies must employ duplicity to explain why they do not adhere to their own principles. Neither Capitalism nor Communism has ever been practiced in its pure, theoretical form....because it collapses if it is.
Deception - including and starting from self-deception - in the form of mystification, obscurantism, is how nihilism conceals its motives and excuses its failures, maintaining the ideal - purity - of its anti-nature propositions.
Of course all human dogmas and ideologies are anti-nature, to one degree or another.
In this case Capitalism is less so than Communism, yet capitalism cannot be implemented completely because it creates too much inequality  and too many disruptive natural conflicts.  
Capitalism's anti-nature interventions are primarily in the area of ownership and of inheritance, maintained institutionally, i.e., inheriting social and economic status, is not found in nature. In comparison to Communism's proposed interventions they are minimal.  
But I digress.

He uses Globalization to signify a post-American dominated world.
A multi-polar world dominated by the ethnos of Han Chinese, currently pushed by the Anglosphere into an alliance with Russia.
England - and what is left of the British Empire - to prevent continental European unification, and the United states - the inheritor of Empire - to maintain its messianic status as the leader of the saved, i.e., free, liberated, fighting against the forces of evil.
With no "evil" antipode the "goodness" of the messiah, and his very leadership, is questioned.
This was the dramatic side-effect of a collapsing Soviet Union - there was no "evil empire" to make America's "salvation offering" seductive to the unanointed.
Positive Nihilism always comes bearing amazing, seductive, appealing, gifts of wealth, pleasure and/or power.
It is how it overcomes skepticism and resistance, among the lowly.
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...", in opposition with Soviet the Communist gift "Workers of the world Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains...."
What can one lose when he has nothing?



When America pushed the logic of its own ideology further it exposed its underlying motives.
As long as it remained constrained within Abrahamic pretences it could sell itself to the world as a utopian salvation from human biology, to increasing masses who, like with Communism, saw in it a freedom from their genealogical fate.
Released from its bounds it revealed its underlying ideals, in practice - no longer theoretical but in real-time, its weakness was exposed to reality, i.e., natural order, and it has begun to crumble - imploding as its nihilistic meme comes in conflict with genetic impulses.

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Of course China would advocate national pluralism - or a multi-polar world.
They will have a distinct advantage in such a geopolitical situation.
Russia, as well, for different reasons, of because of different resource advantages - china has human resources, Russia land and resource advantages.
Of course he would dismiss European Unification to make this advantage certain.

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Americanism takes over from British dominion, leaving behind the Latin/Hellenic age - brought down when they had grown old and tired, vulnerable to Afro-Asiatic viruses of the spirit. .
With it the centuries were dominated by Anglo-Saxon, Protestantism.
Now, this Anglo-Germanic age is coning to its end, also infected by the same, yet transformed, Afro-Asiatic disease.
We are entering the Asian Age, dominated by a different kind of nihilism, transformed within a different spiritual attitude - and it bears within it the seed of its cacerous demise.
Nihilism emerges, as was noted, when resources stressors force impose a self-abenagting spiritual asceticism - taming the beast so as to give it a chance to survive in this different environment. It is a defensive linguistic tool which is adopted as a political carrot & stick, useful in controlling mases of unfit mediocre mases, essential to the maintenance of sophisticated systems.
Shestov, Lev wrote:
Just as did Nietzsche, Luther discovered with horror that where Socrates and Spinoza had found the supreme and only possible consolation there opened up the abyss of eternal death. Luther writes: Deus
est...creator omnipotens ex nihilo faciens omnia..."God is...the almighty creator who makes everything out of nothing... But that most noxious pest, the illusion of righteousness - which does not wish to be sinful, impure, miserable and damned but rather righteous and holy - does not allow him to come to this, his natural and proper work. Therefore God must use this hammer, namely, the law, in order that he may break, crush, grind down and completely destroy this monster with its self-confidence, its wisdom, its righteousness, its power, etc..."
As if he were replying to Luther across the centuries, Nietzsche cries with an almost demented passion: "In man creature and creator are united: in man there is matter, shred, excess, clay, mire, folly, chaos; but there is also the creator, the sculptor, the hardness of the hammer, the divinity of the spectator, and the seventh day : - do you understand this contrast? And that your sympathy for the "creature in man" applies to that which has to be fashioned, broken, forged, stretched, roasted, annealed, refined - to that which must necessarily suffer and is meant to suffer?"
These lines are basically only a repetition of Luther's words; the expressions, the tone, even the thought are identical. But Luther had heard them from the prophets. All that the prophets say is animated by a single desire, permeated by a single thought: Deus est creator omnipotens (in Nietzsche - "Will to Power"). And it is to Him, the creator omnipotens, that both Luther and Nietzsche rush headlong, smashing without regret all obstacles in their way. Luther says: frangere, contundere, prorsus ad nihil redigere (to break, to crush, completely to destroy); Nietzsche in no way yields to him in this respect - he also tears, breaks, burns, completely destroys precisely that to which men hold fast above all, that which they esteem and love more than all, that which they worship. On the altars erected by Socrates and Spinoza, Luther and Nietzsche see that bellua nocentissima qua non occisa homo non potest vivere (most noxious monster without whose killing man cannot live). But how did it happen that Luther and Nietzsche saw a monster where the wisest of men, a righteous and saintly man, saw and worshipped a divinity? How could Socrates' summum bonum, his "knowledge," which was for him the source of his saintliness, be changed in Luther's eyes into the "illusion of righteousness," into sin, corruption, death? We must not deceive ourselves: the thunderbolts of Luther and Nietzsche are directed against the god of Socrates and of Spinoza. Luther constantly curses both Socrates' good and his truth, while Spinoza was convinced, let us remember, that he who has offended reason would no longer have the right to pray and that all altars would be forbidden to him. It will be said that the Deus omnipotens ex nihilo faciens omnia still existed for Luther, while Nietzsche had denied God. That is so - and it is here that we touch upon the most difficult of problems.
I have said that Luther's Creator omnipotens was transformed by Nietzsche into the "Will to Power," which he set in opposition to the Socratic "good." Socrates' ethics was the doctrine of a fallen man concerning the ways to salvation; but a fallen man - Scripture tells us and Nietzsche also suggests to us - is a man condemned to a punishment whose horror surpasses the cruelest imagination: from res cogitans (a thinking thing) he is transformed into asinus turpissimus (a most infamous ass) and dies of hunger between two bales of hay, since his will is paralyzed and he is incapable of moving on his own initiative any of his limbs or making the slightest motion.
Perhaps he remembers at times that there exists or existed somewhere a Macht capable of breaking the spell. But he cannot turn toward it; he "aspires eagerly" to knowledge, to universal and necessary truths. The "knowledge" on which he counts or, rather, on which he is forced to count, is, however, of no help to him; not only does it not dissipate the spell, it causes it.
Socrates was a fallen man, Spinoza was a fallen man - but Nietzsche also, like all of us, is descended from Adam. When, in Engadine, at an elevation of six thousand feet, he had that sudden illumination that he later called the idea of the "Eternal Return," he submitted his "revelation," as each of us would have done in his place, to the judgment of reason. He wished to prove it, establish its truth, transform it into knowledge. And it was to the same tribunal that he submitted his "transvaluation of all values," his "Will to Power," his "beyond good and evil" and even his "morality of masters." And, of course, after reason had pronounced its judgment and the verification had been completed,Nietzsche returned with empty hands; only the Socratic-Spinozist "virtue" was left to him. For even Moses himself could speak face to face with God only as long as he held to the heights of Sinai; as soon as he descended into the valley the truth that had been revealed to him was transformed into law. "To see the creator and the master of the universe is difficult, but to show him to others is impossible," says Plato. It is doubtless because of this that Nietzsche has told us almost nothing of the idea of the "Eternal Return" which, by his own confession, he felt himself called to reveal to the world; and what he does tell of it shows only that it was not given to him to bring such a thing to men. What he offered them is something completely different from it, something - indeed - - opposed to it. Only once, as far as I can judge, in his Beyond Good and Evil, did he succeed in expressing this idea in an adequate way:
"'This I have done,' says my memory. 'This I cannot have done,' says my pride, and remains inexorable. Finally it is my memory that yields."
It is in these words, almost devoid - by human reckoning - of all meaning, that we must seek the explanation of the inner struggles that nourished Nietzsche's thought. The memory, that is to say, the exact representation of reality in thought, says to man: "You have done this, it was so." - "No, I could not have done this, it was not so" replies that which Nietzsche calls, not with complete precision, his "pride." (In Thus Spake Zarathustra, after the conversation with the dwarf about the Eternal Return, Nietzsche expresses himself better when, characterizing "this something" in himself that refuses to accept the real, he says: "Mein Grauen, mein Ekel, 19 Op. cit., sec. 68. mein Erbarmen, all mein Gutes und Schlimmes schrie mit einem Schrei aus mir." (My horror, my hatred, my loathing, my pity, all my good and my bad cried with one voice out of me.) And the memory yields: that which was becomes that which has never been.
In Thus Spake Zarathustra, in the chapter entitled "Of the Redemption," Nietzsche returns to this theme: "to redeem the past and to transform every 'it was' to 'thus would I have it'" And he returns to it again in the third part of the chapter "Of Old and New Tablets." All that has accumulated in the soul of man during the course of long years of suffering and trial and that, by the decree of our reason which has seized the right of final decision, cannot even raise its voice when it is a question of truth and error, is suddenly permitted to proclaim its rights. And it even realizes them: that which has been, says Nietzsche, becomes that which has not been. It is probably impossible to "explain" how these rights are realized, for they are realized precisely because and insofar as man learns or, rather, decides to do without all explanations, to disregard them, to despise them. For this there is also required that mysterious and sudden illumination through which there arose in Nietzsche
the idea of the Eternal Return. Man refuses obedience to reason which, until now, has dictated its laws to nature itself. What Descartes called "eternal truths" and Leibniz vérités de raison and what, according to Socrates and Spinoza, is revealed to the "eyes of the Zarathustra, Part III, ch.2-2 (The Vision and the Enigma)[Its head off! Bite!"]— so cried it out of me; my horror, my hatred, my loathing, my pity, all my good and my bad cried with one voice out of me.— mind" loses all power over man. "When, however, we admit that it is impossible that something should be made out of nothing, then the proposition 'out of nothing is nothing made'... is considered an eternal truth... Of the same kind are the following propositions: it is impossible that the same thing should simultaneously be and not be; that which has happened cannot become something which has not happened; he who thinks must, while he thinks, exist... and innumerable others."
So Descartes speaks. One cannot argue with these innumerable eternal truths. Disgust, horror, hatred, scorn - no matter how powerful they may be - cannot overthrow them. These truths are eternal; they are before being, before man, before God. But when Nietzsche was transported six thousand feet high and higher still above all human thoughts, he felt suddenly that the eternal truths had lost their power and no longer dictated their laws either to the world or to him. I repeat: he did not find the words he needed to designate what had appeared to him and began to speak of the Eternal Return. But here was something infinite]..y more important than the Eternal Return.
He discovered that, despite the eternal law quod factum est, infectum nequit esse (what has happened cannot become something that has not happened), not memory, which exactly reproduces the past, but a certain will ("pride," I say again, is not the proper word here) has by its own authority rendered the past nonexistent; and he discovered that it was this will that brought him the truth. He who so violently attacked the Bible dares to speak of "redemption."
Redemption from the past, from the enslavement of Principia Philosophiae, Ed. 1678,I.49. the law and laws thanks to which alone the past
remains unshakable. These laws, which reason draws out of itself, are precisely that bellua (monster), that bestia, qua non occisa homo non potest vivere (beast without whose killing man cannot live).
Behind Nietzsche's Eternal Return is hidden, it seems, a force of infinite power that is also prepared to crush the horrible monster who rules over human life and over all being: Luther's Creator omnipotens ex nihilo faciens omnia. The omnipotent Creator is not only beyond good and evil but also beyond truth and falsehood. Before His face (facies in faciem) both evil and falsehood cease to exist and are changed into nothingness, not only in the present but also in the past. They no longer are and never have been, despite all the testimonies of the human memory. In opposition to Hegel who, drawing up the balance of all that he had learned from his predecessors ("Socrates produced the principle of philosophy for all future times"), hoped to find God such as He was before the creation of the world and the finite spirit in logic, that is, in the system of eternal and unchangeable truths - Nietzsche longed only to escape from the domination of these truths. Explaining his idea of the Eternal Return, he writes: "A great struggle awaits us. For it is required a new weapon, the hammer: to bring on a terrible decision." And again: "The philosophy presently on the throne does not cease remembering that all things are perishable in order not to consider them too important and to live peacefully in their midst. But for me, on the contrary, everything seems too important to be so transitory; I seek eternity for everything."  The Will to Power, Book IV.
It is not to be doubted that Nietzsche clung to the idea of the Eternal Return because - in opposition not to Marcus Aurelius but to Marcus Aurelius' master, the master of all those who philosophize, Socrates - he was seeking to obtain eternity for the things which, according to our conception of truth, are condemned to annihilation. But does this mean that he wished eternity for "everything"? He himself has just told us that his "pride" condemned to death certain things to which eternity was guaranteed without any intervention on his part. Nietzsche even obtains in
this way results that are quasi-miraculous: that which was, the past which enjoys the omnipotent protection of the truth of reason - quod factum est, infectum esse nequit - is transformed by his will into that which has never been. Why, then, does he suddenly demand eternity for "everything"? Does he wish to satisfy reason, which aspires eagerly to universal and necessary truth? But this would mean that when memory says to a man, "you have done this," no discussion, no protest, is any longer possible, for the memory reproduces exactly the past to which eternal existence in truth is guaranteed. To put it differently, he must renounce the "Will to Power" and adopt the attitude of the common man who accepts everything that fate brings him, or even the attitude of the sage who not only accepts everything but sees in this disposition aequo animo utramque faciem fortunae ferre (to bear both faces of fortune with equanimity) a virtue and considers this virtue his supreme good. It is impossible to escape the stone that calls itself "it was," and "redemption" becomes a word devoid of meaning.
Nietzsche allowed himself to be ensnared by Socrates' logic, the logic of the fallen man. The "stubborn and impenitent monster" was not killed, it only seemed to be dead. Nietzsche's hammer did not break the pretensions of reason, which entrenched itself behind universal and necessary judgments. We must return to Luther whose hammer struck more powerfully and more accurately than Nietzsche's. Let us forget that Luther was a theologian. Let us forget that he repeated the prophets and the apostles. We are not bound by any authority. Authority, indeed, is only a residue of the pretensions of reason, which aspires eagerly to universal and necessary judgments.
But where truth is, there is not, there cannot be, any constraint. There is freedom. Let us listen to Luther.
Let us listen to the prophets and the apostles such as they were in the sight of their contemporaries - simple, despised, even persecuted men. Now, when these men speak of redemption, it does not even occur to them that anyone or anything could place them before the dilemma: either accept everything that has been, or make everything that has been not to have been. Among the things that have been there are some that one can save and others that one can annihilate. God came down on earth, He became man, He suffered, but not in order to realize one of those universal and necessary truths that reason draws out of itself. He came to save men.
Luther writes: "God sent His only begotten son into the world and laid upon him all the sins of all men, saying: Be thou Peter, that denier; Paul, that persecutor, blasphemer and doer of violence; David, that adulterer; that sinner who ate the apple in paradise; that thief on the cross - in sum, be thou the person who committed the sins of all men." The form is different, in keeping with Luther's epoch and environment, but the profound thought of these lines is identical with that which appeared to Nietzsche under the aspect of the idea of the Eternal
Return: it is necessary to deliver oneself from the past, to transform that which once was into that which has never been. Peter, Paul, King David, the thief on the cross, Adam who tasted the apple - these are all "fallen men," like Socrates, Wagner and Nietzsche.
They cannot save themselves by their own powers.
The more they struggle, the more they sink. But Luther was not enchained by the eternal truths of reason. He sees in them, on the contrary, "the monster without whose killing man cannot live." If these truths are destined to triumph, there is no salvation for men. To put it differently, in philosophic language, in absolutizing truth we relativize being.
Luther decides to hand truth over to the power "of the omnipotent Creator, who makes everything out of nothing." If truth is in the hands of the Creator, the Creator can abrogate it, entirely or in part. He can bring it about that Peter's denial, Paul's persecutions and blasphemies, David's adultery never existed but that certain other things among those that have been are preserved forever. God, indeed, is not rational truth, which, itself deprived of will, can yet paralyze the human will. And God does not fear anything, for everything is in His power. He is not even afraid of transferring to His son all the sins of the world, or, more exactly, to make of him the greatest of sinners.
"All the prophets," writes Luther, "saw this in the spirit: that Christ would be the greatest robber, thief, defiler of the temple, murderer, adulterer, etc., such that no greater will ever be in the world."
The Christ, the consubstantial son of the Father, that is to say, God Himself, is, then, the greatest sinner who ever lived on earth! But this means that God is the source and creator of evil; one cannot suspect Luther of Docetism. The prophets "saw" and proclaimed this just as they saw and declared that God had hardened, that is, made wicked, Pharaoh's heart. Such visions and proclamations, even though they come from the prophets, appear to human reason, bound by universal and necessary truths, blasphemous and sacrilegious; they outrage God, reason tells us, and they deserve the worst tortures in the hells both of this world and the other. God responsible for evil? God the Creator of evil? Absit - this be far from us - cried the Fathers of the Church as well as the simple monks. Evil exists on earth, yet it is not God who is its author but man; otherwise it is impossible to justify and save God's goodness. And indeed, if the eternal truths are before God and above God, if quod factum est, infectum esse nequit, then we have no choice: we must set against God, the creator of good, man, the creator of evil. Man becomes creator omnipotens, ex nihilo omnia faciens. And then redemption, deliverance from the past, from the nightmare of death and the horrors of death, is impossible. There remains only one way out: to recognize that the universal and necessary truths and that reason which brings us these truths constitute precisely that bellua, qua non occisa homo non potest vivere.
Luther felt that man would recover freedom only when reason and the knowledge that reason gives us will have lost their power. And Nietzsche, as we have seen, felt this also. He refused to accept the testimony of fact and tried to break the self-evidences with the hammer of his will. But when Zarathustra came down from his heights to men, he was obliged to come to terms with his terrible enemy. We read in Ecce homo, Nietzsche's last work, "My formula for the greatness of man is amor fati - to change nothing, neither before nor after, throughout all eternity. Not only to bear Necessity, and still less to hide it - all idealism is a lie in the face of Necessity - but to love it." But such was precisely the teaching of the decadent, the fallen man, Socrates! Such were the fruits of the tree of knowledge which, according to Hegel, were to be the principle of philosophy for all time. It was this also that Spinoza, who assimilated Socrates' wisdom and saw happiness in virtue, proclaimed.
Instead of engaging in supreme combat with Necessity, Nietzsche, velut paralyticus, manibus et pedibus omissis (like a cripple, with slack arms and legs), abandons himself to his adversary and hands over his soul to it; he promises not only to obey and venerate but to love it. And he does not make this promise only in his own name; all must submit to Necessity, venerate and love it, or else they will be excommunicated. Excommunicated by whom? Amor fati, says Nietzsche, is the formula for greatness, and he who refuses to accept everything that fatum imposes upon him will be deprived of the praise, the encouragement, the approbation that the idea of "greatness" contains in itself. The old "you will be like God" arose anew, one knows not whence, and cast a spell upon Nietzsche who, before our very eyes, had made such heroic efforts to pass beyond good and evil, that is, beyond all praises, encouragements and approbations.
How could this happen? Must we believe in the intervention of the biblical serpent who had once seduced Adam? Indeed, translated into the language of Luther, amor fati means that Nietzsche sees "the monster without whose killing man cannot live" not in the chains which bind the human will but in the human will itself, in its drive to power. Accordingly, he strains all of his forces not to destroy or at least weaken his enemy but to kill in himself every desire for battle, to learn to see his essential task in uncomplaining, joyous even, and loving submission to all that comes to him from outside without his knowing whence or how. And this is the same Nietzsche who spoke so much of the morality of masters and railed so scornfully against the morality of slaves, who refused to stoop or bow down before any authority whatsoever! But when he looked Necessity in the face, his powers betrayed him and he built for it an altar of which the most exacting of the inhabitants of Olympus could have been jealous.
Thus was everything that Luther had said in De servo arbitrio and in De votis monachorum, and what Nietzsche himself had glimpsed in Socrates' fate but never succeeded in discovering in his own, confirmed: the fallen man cannot do anything for his own salvation, his choice is no longer free, everything that he undertakes brings him closer to death, and the more he "does" the weaker he becomes and the deeper
his fall. And then there is still this point that is no less important: the fallen man - and we know that Nietzsche realized this when he thought about Socrates - puts all his trust in knowledge, while it is precisely knowledge that paralyzes his will and leads him inexorably to his downfall.
This Necessity of which Nietzsche tells us - whence, indeed, does it come? Who or what is it that has brought it to us? If one had put this question to Nietzsche he would probably have replied "experience." But we have already seen that one cannot discover Necessity in experience. Knowledge draws the idea of Necessity from a source quite other than experience. Moreover, without the idea of Necessity knowledge would immediately collapse. But where Necessity is, there is not, there cannot be, freedom; consequently where knowledge is, there is no freedom. It seems that Nietzsche was very near throwing down the gauntlet before knowledge and going to seek the truth elsewhere. And not only because Socrates' example had put him on guard against the consequences of an exaggerated trust in knowledge. Nietzsche knew certain experiences which show that he aspired with all his being to rid himself of knowledge and to penetrate into those realms of being where the enchantment of knowledge would no longer weigh upon man, would no longer enchain him. He tells us of this in the same Ecce homo. I hope that the reader will excuse this rather long quotation, considering the importance of the question for us: "Can anyone at the end of this Nineteenth Century possibly have any distinct notion of what poets of a more vigorous period mean by inspiration? If not, I should like to describe it. Provided one has the
slightest remnant of superstition left, one can hardly reject completely the idea that one is the mere incarnation, or mouthpiece, or medium of some almighty power. The notion of revelation describes the condition quite simply; by which I mean that something profoundly convulsive and disturbing suddenly becomes visible and audible with indescribable definiteness and exactness. One hears - one does not seek; one takes - one does not ask who gives; a thought flashes out like lightning, inevitably without hesitation - I have never had any choice about it... Everything occurs quite without volition, as if in an eruption of freedom, independence, power and divinity...
How little the necessity of which Nietzsche here tells us resembles the Necessity that had led the ancients to the conception of fate indifferent to everything! And the question rises for us: when was Nietzsche in the power of "prejudices" - when he glorified amor fati in the conviction that fate is invincible, or when he declared that everything "occurs quite without volition" but nevertheless "as if in an eruption of freedom, independence, power and divinity?"
He ends thus: "This is my experience of inspiration. I have no doubt that I should have to go back millennia to find someone who would have the right to tell me: 'such is also my experience.'" I think these words provide a reply to the question we have just raised: at moments the "prejudices" of men who lived thousands of years earlier were much closer to Nietzsche than the "truths" of his contemporaries.
Nevertheless, in the end he brought his illuminations to the tribunal not of those "prejudices" on which the ancient freedom that had no fear of anything was nourished, but to that of knowledge, which has begotten the indifference, passivity and dreary submissiveness of modern thought. The idea of the Eternal Return wished to be "based" on something, and it was always to this very fate that it turned to obtain its right to existence. For it cannot maintain itself by its own will, it has no will; and it can no longer maintain itself by the will of any living being, the living being has no power. Everything depends on fate: will it or will it not agree to concede to this idea some place in the structure of being? For the decisions of fate are unchangeable and without appeal, whether it be the existence of the individual or all of humanity or even of the universe that is in question, and the virtue of the simple mortal as well as of the wise man consists not only in accepting the decisions of fate but in revering them, even loving them.
It is unnecessary to describe here in detail how Nietzsche tried to obtain from fate the right to existence for his idea of the Eternal Return. Nietzsche says that fate granted his prayers, but it is hardly probable that he himself seriously believed that one could "demonstrate" the idea of the Eternal Return and give it a solid foundation and that the considerations on which he established it were capable of convincing anyone whomsoever. And yet he did not fail to reason honestly and scrupulously on the subject, not like his distant ancestors with whom he carried on a dialogue in Thus Spake Zarathustra, but as a learned man, that is, one who sets out from the idea of submission to Necessity and not from the idea of power, must reason. From the point of view of "demonstration," the idea of the Eternal Return, even under the modest form which Nietzsche gave it in order to bring it before the supreme judge, is greatly inferior to the majority of the modern ideas which Nietzsche had so mordantly mocked. The idea of the Eternal Return or, more exactly, what was revealed to Nietzsche under this form, can maintain itself only when the throne or seat of Necessity is destroyed. And it is precisely against this throne that Nietzsche had to raise his hammer. The sufferings, the horror, the despair, the hatred, the disgust, the joys and hopes that it was given Nietzsche to know - all these he would have to throw at the monster's head to destroy it.
It seems that Nietzsche himself thought that such was precisely his life's task and that he made truly super-human efforts to fulfill it. He weighed himself down with an enormous burden and was ready to take on even more. In one of his letters he says that he would gladly experience the worst sufferings that any human being had ever known, for it is only on this condition that he could believe he had really seen the truth. And his wish was fulfilled. Except for Kierkegaard, perhaps, not one of the thinkers of the nineteenth century knew the horrifying experiences through which Nietzsche passed. But he found that this was still not enough; he did not have the daring to rise up against Necessity and defy it. When he stood before Necessity and looked it straight in the eye, his powers betrayed him and he became paralyzed, like Socrates, like Spinoza. "The necessary does not offend me, amor fati is my innermost nature," he says in Ecce Homo as if he had forgotten all that he had said so many times about the morality of masters and slaves, the "Will to Power," the freedom that lies "beyond good and evil." Instead of fighting against the monster he becomes its ally, its slave, and directs his hammer not, to be sure, against those who refuse obedience to Necessity (all submit to Necessity, the wise as well as the foolish) but against those who refuse to consider submission to Necessity as summum bonum and beatitudo. Nietzsche sets his pride in amor fati and bases all his hopes on "you shall be like God, knowing good and evil." His philosophy, like Socrates' and Spinoza's, is changed into edification: man must "endure both faces of fortune with equanimity;" no evil can come to a good man, for he must find happiness even in the bull of Phalaris.
Nietzsche's "cruelty," which frightened so many people, did not originate with Nietzsche. It had already been introduced into the soul of the first man, who let himself be tempted by the fruits of the tree of knowledge. It had already been proclaimed by the wisest among men, who had discovered the universal and necessary truths. Original sin weighs heavily on fallen humanity, and all the efforts that it makes to deliver itself break, like waves on a rock, against the invisible wall of prejudices that we venerate as eternal truths. And Nietzsche could not escape the fate of all; the idea of Necessity succeeded in seducing him also.
He bowed his own head, and called all men to prostrate themselves, before the altar or throne of the "monster without whose killing man cannot live."  

There is only one place where Ananke - necessity - has no power and it is from where she emerges and returns to - Chaos.
Denying memory is nihilsitc - one foot in Hades, or chaos, where nothing of order remains.

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One consequence of believing the myth that race and sex are social construct is the glorification of edumucation, raising it to the status of the vehicle of emancipation - salvation - and equality - elimination of racial and sexual disparities in inherited and or hormonally produced physical and mental disparities.

This is an example of how one error in judgment, one mistake, leads to compounding, mistakes and cascading errors in judgement.
an explosion of idiocy....that must find something or someone else to blame.
Because, well because it was inevitable, since there was no choice in the matter...no free-will.

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I essentially agree with Nick Fuentes here.  He, and almost no others, are the 'final resistance' in the United States.  And he is correct in his assessment: preaching basic biological facts, that men and women sexually reproduce, or that women have babies, means that you are a "Nazi".  Liberal-Left-Marxism is reaching its end-point in absurdity and fallacy.  The insanity produced by the Far-left has become so severe and weighted that the System will not be able to support this for long.  This is also why core institutions in the United States and Western Civilization are failing one-by-one.

It is not a coincidence that France is ready and calling for Civil War, instigated by their Military Generals, because of the takeover of Fundamentalist Islam there.

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