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Remember....the U.S. is a Democratic Capitalist meritocracy... in theory. In practice it is anything but that.
It works, it tells itself, in accordance with its own principles - the holy Constitution.
Social migrations do occur to maintain the illusion.

This comes out during America's greatest internal struggle, assassinating and outing those who got caught and have become a liability.
Tucker, exposes the duplicity of the Democratic "left", implying that his own faction, the Republicans, are better, a or at least not as obvious in their duplicity.

Where more extreme nihilism is present, the more self-deceit and pretence must be applied to hide the contradictions between ideology and reality - body and mind.
Where nihilism is extreme more desperation and degeneracy finds in hedonism a self-medicating alternative that never works, in the long term.

The elites rely, not only on thier hereditary bloodlines, but on slavish complacent minds, who are probably more controlled and obedient than the average civilian idiot. Hollywood is a case in point. No one in such an industry has any actual talent or any skill in anything, much less acting. Scumbags and degenerates with pretty faces and submissive mentalities, prostrating themselves over to the power of corporate masters. The dumber, the more naive and impressionable, the more malleable and manageable and able to uphold thier standards of propaganda.

Being born into a world where the cruelty of nature has no effect, only the blind conformity to a social system of reward and praise will exist. It produces a supreme psychological docility; the proper elite breed of automaton.
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Aside from the property owned hypocritical wench, doing what she does best, we have Trump's idiocy on display. Hiring his enemies to defend him and spin rhetoric that plays into the hands of convicting him. He is just like them. He doesn't really care how he looks.
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The idiotic masses always hear what they want to hear - they hear Clinton talk 'on principle', and they think it "owns the racists fascists"; despite their unhesitating abandonment of 'principle' when it's convenient or reveals all too much about themselves.

Sophomoric quips, soundbites, are what the masses want to hear. Even while their 'elites' complain about the sophomoric arguments on 'the other side'. They want to be the only ones utilizing the medium of the masses.

These give the facade of 'depth', just deep enough for the modern idiot to 'get one over' on those that are more dimwitted than they are, and more or equally forgetful.
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The listless, drifting purposeless lifestyle acts like an antidote to the modern mind and their meaningless world, which is why it finds inspiration in this form of nihilism. A life of emptiness, of whimsicality, rootlessness has an attractive “freeing” of accountability or beliefs in anything. The hippie bullshit lives on. This comes from the same stuff of the Joker and other archetypal figures representing spiritual destruction from spiritual impoverishment. It’s the same premise, the same source seduction.

It is one nihilism replacing another. Making existence a relative trifle that negates both criticism and approval. This is what it means to “go with the flow” in the modern mind. To remove yourself from the consequences of nature while erecting an aura of untouchable superiority based on reducing yourself down to particle theory. The superior form of idiocy. If they cannot become strong, they will “mystify” weakness and inferiority into a divine way of being.
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Like Satyr mentioned before, the consumer industries are willing to sabotage and deliberately sacrifice their profits to maintain their loyalty to the nihilism of the establishment, at any cost.

I would also add that, as the interlocuter in the interview says, the left runs the market, and so their losses are relatively minimal in the grand scheme, given their foothold over the weak minds and lost souls who make up the majority. The corporate elites survive, like any organism does, to do what is necessary that is conducive to their survival, even if it means inflicting damage upon their own agendas. For example, if a pill is introduced to a pharmaceutical company which increases cancer or even causes it, they have no moral dilemmas for distributing it to the masses, not out of any intended “malice”, but of blind objective survival mechanisms to their power and profit. That’s all that matters in the end. The ‘majority rules’, as the saying goes. The majority are the impressionable indoctrinated minds. That’s all that matters, that is their power source. The winning team. Quantity over quality.

The architect in the Matrix says “there are forms of survival we are willing to accept”, with the deliberate extinction of humans as their power source. This is relevant to this schema. Power grows to a degree that it becomes self-sufficient enough, to allow parts of itself to be sacrificed or even weakened temporarily. The challenge of course, is that there must be enough to compensate for the losses, a restoration.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 4 EmptySat Feb 01, 2020 11:38 am

Corporations are made up of people and I think that malice has been on the rise in individuals for quite some time, so it will also be reflected in the companies. What is leaving those universities in large numbers today is the future workforce. What they are today personality wise will only become more pronounced as they age.

On average people are easy to read. What the very selectively self-aware person is complaining about is usually saying more about themselves than about their environment.
Especially if they deem themselves to be the moral superior of the other. In other words, they implicitly demand that the other ought to share their morals. I mean, if you have chosen or made an enemy for whatever reason, why would you assume that he ought to follow your moral code? What is it? Is he your enemy or are you his messiah and the other person needs to redeem himself to you?
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A collective of people takes on mindless conformity. Production workers in a company, are part of the objective of the company, not themselves, whether they know it or not. They are not individuals, they become cogs of the machine that exploits them, figuratively speaking. A sense of individuality can only take place outside this enclosure, unless one has the higher ability to still sustain it even in such situations, which is possible. A corporation is a social aggregate of a mentality, an agenda, that supersedes the self. A company grows to great proportions for the fact that it relegates the emotions; makes of the human condition an artificiality.
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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 4 EmptyMon Feb 03, 2020 7:54 am

Excellent....I'm listening to it now. It's along the lines of my own thinking.
Now I have to read more Schmidt.

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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 4 EmptyMon Feb 03, 2020 8:41 am

I have an epigram in my book about the idea of God "hijacking" certain terminologies of modernity such as "equality" "democracy" or the "greater good". The adaptation strategies of the universality of deism. Secularism is the metamorphosis of God into institution as they talk about regarding Schmidt's philosophy.

I have not read him my self, if you do ill look forward to your thoughts about him. I'm reading so many other things at the moment. Ill dabble into him when I have time.
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They seem to be suggesting that the U.S. media is not "free" but a tool for manipulating and controlling how the owner is perceived - cultivating an image and promoting the owners interests.
There goes the reporter's  years of edumucation.....converted to a script writer for the director in chief.
A conspiracy?
Like Big Foot and the Lochness monster....and 9/11....Wink

This is how the official narrative is written by those with the means to promote a specific perspective....having nothing to do with integrity, and reality, and everything to do with power.
All is 'subjective' means....those with power - i.e., money - can manufacture a reality....because there is no objective reality, right?
Not even gravity.
The masses are so indoctrinated that they cannot even think and judge without adopting a thought and judgement, form books, in the best case, and in the worse and more popular case from pop-culture, including Media.

They sold an entire war, not so long ago, on the lie that the 'enemy' had WMD's, and that he invaded a country without anyone's consent.
Nobody even complained when they were alter told it was all a lie....they called it a 'mistake'.
even more recently they tried to begin another war under the false premises that al-Assad - they love personalizing the enemy so as to not include an entire ethnos - was gassing his own people.  
Even this personalizing the enemy with specific individuals is part of the psychological manipulation.
It's always someone, leading some evil entity - a face to the abstraction.  Never about blood.....never ethnos.
Always ideological.

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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 4 EmptyMon Feb 03, 2020 11:06 am

We're in the "twilight zone". Nothing is as it appears to be...in fact appearances are illusions, and the truth is linguistic.
a post-truth era, governed by a messianic super-power.

Remember how Trump claimed that his inauguration was the largest ever in history, despite photographs to the contrary?
It doesn't matter what you see or what you experience as reality. It's all about who said it and how many believed it.
Conventional understanding is how the official narrative is constructed.
The median is the determining factor. By lowering the median you make it easier to manufacture consent, and consent is how you manufacture 'reality'.
We are not yet at the point where the masses will stop using their senses but believe whatever is told to them - words replacing empiricism - but we are getting there.


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This is the kind of "Democracy" the US is promoting as a Global system.

Only the naive or the obtuse, would believe that an Empire, like the US, and its elite, as the most powerful people that have ever lived, with resources and technologies unimaginable in the past, would abandon their fate to mediocre masses of mostly imbeciles.
They repeat the 'all men are created equal' but they do not believe it.


Democracies use methods of mass population control that relies on the illusion of freedom - freedom many degenerates do not even believe in.
How can you be free, or hope to ever be free, if you do not even believe in the concept?
Like a slave who is convinced there is no outside his master's compound. He will never even consider escaping, or use this conviction to justify never attempting to escape.

In this case, the masses are convinced they hold power when their choices are manipulated and restricted by sophisticated methods of psychological manipulation - a science that began in the days of Bernays.

Manufacturing Consent - Chomsky called it.
It's easy when you also promote the idea that there is no human nature - because humans are too complex to be manipulated - or the idea that there is no free-will, so everything is determined, and why bother?
A variety of ways to manipulate different psychologies by enlisting them as wilful participants in their own deceit.
It's self-deceit via a proxy.

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In a fight, if it is between two equal rivals, nobody can hold anything back. All is revealed.
So it is with this internal struggle between U.S. elites, presently reaching extreme levels.
Through their fight we, non-participants, learn a lot about their essence.

The second way to attains objectivity - indirect observation and honest and accurate empathy. The first being application - first-hand experience and a subsequent honest assessment - emphasis on the "honest" part because self-deceit is a corruptive component, i.e, subjectivization of all consequences in accordance to self-interest, expressed as self-purification through projecting the negative consequences as accusations against others.

In this third-person method the process is both easier and in many ways more difficult.
Easier because the observer is not involved - and may not have a 'dog in the fight', corrupting his judgement; harder because the observer must be able of empathy, beyond the sympathy/antipathy dichotomy, but still some data is 'lost in translation'.
Nevertheless, the second option also has the advantage of low-risk.
I can learn that fire burns or hurts or damages the human skin, not by paling my own hand over a flame but by observing another being exposed to flames.

In the context of the true spirit of America, this brutal, often infantile, fight between figureheads representing two distinct factions of America's elite, offers us an opportunity to practice our talents with the second option of acquiring objective understanding.
The fight appears to have been prolonged by one factions inability to muster an adequate and comparable alternative - Trump, as things presently stand, appears to be the most probable victor of an election.
His defeat would return the U.S. to its previous duplicitous methodologies. Declaring itself messiah, bringer of freedom and equality, while projecting hard power, exploiting and ravaging foreign controlled resources and then using the masses of immigration as evidence of its enviable nature; as well as fabricating enemies of evil, so as to sell defences which maintain allies in a constant state of anxiety and dependence, while consistently selling its 'nihilism' through Hollywood, its media and other sources of data distribution - propaganda soft-power.
It is a formula that has worked - defeating the not so might Soviet Union, marketed, during the post-war period - Cold War - as a formidable evil entity only the power of the U.S. with the help of its allies could hope to defeat.

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Networking...the foundation of American power.

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This is why Trump will, most probably, win the next election.

The left has embraced its post-modern insanity, convinced that the world - i.e., America's average citizen - is ready, after decades of priming (brainwashing, indoctrination), for the next step - progress they call it, or enlightenment.
Biden will not win, because if he wins the nomination this will indicate a step back.

What I'm anxious about is the election after that, with no trump in the picture.Will the Republicans take a step back from insanity, or a step into it?
This will determine the next century and how the US will engage it - will it return to its aggressive messianic strategies, or will it become more conservative, and isolationist, consolidating its power as long as possible?

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Because democracy cannot coerce - having adopted a more feminine and effective method - it must seduce.
Populations must be manipulated to behave as the elites want them to.
This is part of marketing and politics.

They started many wars using false-flag events - the last successful example would be the WMD's and the Iraqi War.
They recruited Colin Powel, a African American iconic figure and seemingly a respected man, to lie on their behalf
Whether he knew it or not, while he was doing it, I leave it up to the reader to decide.

All I'll say is the best lie is the one the liar believes is true.
Powel has seemingly disappeared from public life, having done the job and, perhaps, realizing how he was used to justify a war against a dictator the Americans created and supported for years, up to the point where he became a problem that had to be replaced or eliminated.
Such methods are typical.
9/11 was an opportunity to justify a war that could not be justified by a simple invasion of a foreign land no American could find on a map.
A conspiracy can be proactive or passive, allowing something to occur because it offers an opportunity, or an excuse.
Pearl Harbour is another example of an attack that was allowed to occur - despite the US possessing radar systems the Japanese did not have, at the time - distancing ships that were considered valuable, and allowing old ships to be destroyed, offering an excuse to enter a war many average Americans had no desire to enter and bleed for.
It's convenient that the US enters the war against the Germans only after the Russians defeated them in Stalingrad, triggering a shift in power dynamics and exposing the Germans as not being unbeatable.  
A war to split Europe in two.
The US seeing an opportunity to claim a place on the post-war table of dividing the spoils.

The last known attempt failed. It was supposed to justify a war against Syria; but American political dynamics, among its elite, had shifted - and this shift was represented by the election of Trump. He was a stop of post-modern madness....perpetrated by Hollywood elites - the left branch of their ruling class.
A temporary change, perhaps. We'll see.
The US may return to its 'perpetual warfare' method that has worked so well, during the Cold War - an adjustment of the Trotsky doctrine of perpetual revolution which Stalin got rid of, setting the stage for the post-war era.

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One’s natural inclinations, like genetic predispositions, can never be gotten rid of, but only transmuted into different strategies of advancing itself. The SJW and their identity politics, is only an isometric of Marxism and the proletariat, (I.e. cultural Marxism). Communism’s victimhood ideology, fragmented into politically correct abstractions. Trump is another version of this victimhood representation, this time of “working class whites”.

He got in, because he was the only choice, the ‘lessor evil’ as is stated in the video. The average mind only votes for what is popular. They are idiots, they don’t think, they go with the trend. He was popular. Simple as that. This same pattern was repeated with the Brexit 2.0. The tide of the circumstances sways the mind of the idiot. That’s the American way after all, to go with the winner. No matter what. If John McCain had as large of a mindless mass of groveling followers, as Obama did, he would have won. He just wasn’t as popular as the Mullato was.

This moronic circus shit will repeat itself again, and the citizens will swallow it again.
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Tarantino understands his own time and place of American cultural degradation. Himself, a Hollywood degenerate mind, born into the imagery of the entertainment industry and vulgar cinema and incorporating it into his identity and even his psychology. Using artistic techniques, he is then able to communicate the hedonism of the American modern culture by making of its history a mock psychotic, yet comical amorphous mass of blended pop-cultural references which are deeply ingrained in the American mind. Which is why "Pulp Fiction" became so famous.

The "mish mash" of his style illustrates the meaninglessness of American culture and its only connection to any form of identity which is hedonism and entertainment. He can take the deaths of people who were murdered in a horrific way and place them into an entertainment context because the culture ITSELF is an empty indulgence in entertainment. Americans know nothing of themselves other than how they relate to thier history of mass media, celebrities, pop-cultural music and artists and songs; all of it programmed into them to be "Pavlovianly" stimulated into excitement. Tarantino plays on this and nurtures thier artificial past.
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Another attempt to rescue his innocent, naive, childhood, from itself, finding a cause, in Manson, who 'ended the party'; a time when violence was on screen, and meant nothing but served as a way to deal with the ennui sheltering had produced.

If only.....Sharon Tate was not killed, then the hippies would now rule, making love not war; if only movies were as innocent as they pretend to be, like the creators that make them.
If only childhood had never ended, and adolescence did not enter into a cycle of masturbation, carelessly spilling his seed, and enjoying the relief it offered.
If only hippies did not turn out to be latent degenerates gradually waking up to themselves.
Rewriting history may offer some form of pleasure....but it does not last, because the past is what is immutable - reinterpreting it, forgetting it, romanticizing it will not change a thing.

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The US pretends to be the inheritor of Rome....wears the symbols....but its soul has been corrupted by an alien - Afro-Asiatic - ideology/tribe.
Appropriating history is a way of corrupting it.
Linguistically - semiotically - every thinker and every thought can be reinterpreted against its creator's original intent, through obscurantism.

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Illusion and naivete are what America was founded on. The myth of equality, and the fairy tale of happiness. American minds are reared on these illusions, growing up with childish stunted psychologies, sheltered under industrialism and political platitudes which keep them strong in thier minds. Even the ones who know the truth about the lies and corruption, still, themselves, buy into the original premise of those lies.

"Free Speech" was the effective strategy installed by the elites to keep resistance and thier citizenry emasculated. The need to fight back with 'words' instead of 'fists', became their custom of nobility, producing generations of passive, yet 'outspoken' men-children; believing they are strong by being womanly and "non-violent".
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Capitalism and Marxism are two poles of the same world-view.
I've said this before.
The Cold War was an internal struggle between two variants of Nihilism.
Both needed the other to define themselves, and when one collapsed the other had to invent a new enemy, but this did not work so well, so it is in decline.

America's "Deep State" - its Republican/Democrat binary - is turning on itself because of this failure to manufacture a sufficient external threat to keep the Military-Industrial Complex going.
A self-referential, self-cohesive system of dominion.
Positive Nihilism needs its opposite - i.e., pure nihilism - to define itself, because it rejects reality as its standard being entirely ideological and language based.
If not pure nihilism it needs some variant of itself to juxtapose its own abstractions.

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This is the average American moron, believing in their "good judgement" given to them by the same corporate media they claim to oppose. Only what is popular sways their thinking, even when they believe it to be in line with "common sense". To resist, for the sake of resisting, just to be different.

The psychology of the non-conformist conformer retard.
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Nothing Roman left in the USA....nothing Hellenic.
It is degrading down to Abrahamic.....the root of its spirit; with a Messianic mission to destroy or save mankind from itself.
Everything is corrupted - warped by a dis-ease - from History to philosophy, and from idealism to tribalism.
The approach, the starting premises, corrupts the process; all is inverted, and concealed in obscurity and mysticism where genes/memes reverse the sequence.
Hiding in genes, sometimes claiming to be pure meme, pure idea, pure spirituality - it is both and neither.
It is duplicitous.

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