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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 15, 2021 2:30 pm

When Nietzsche replaced Life - Schopenhauer's Will to Life - with Power - in his Will to Power - this automatically implied a transvaluation of values, because value is what a conscious living being - subject - calls its relationship with an objective - object.
The change of objective from "life" - survival, self-preservition - to "power" - self expansion, growth, dominance - means that all evaluations must be adjusted accordingly.

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 15, 2021 4:44 pm

Nietzsche, Fredrich wrote:
I teach you the Superman. Man is something that should be overcome. What have you done to overcome him?


All primates in existence were an overcoming of the same ancestor. 
There is no should by surpassed for this is inevitable  and a part of evolutionary cycles of natural selection.
Whether it be over or under something new will come - every culture - meme - inspired by their own particular kind of future ideal man; some realistic others fantastic; some attainable others unattainable, condemned to remain theoretical; some consciously and others unconsciously developing.

I've said that future man if he can withstand the current drive towards uniformity will fragment into a multiplicity, along ideological/spiritual lines - especially if the last frontier becomes accessible to even the average man.

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 15, 2021 7:25 pm

Ubermenschen cannot be properly understood without the Masculine / Feminine dichotomy.

It means to enhance the Masculine qualities of Mankind, which necessitates Warrior doctrines.



Men cannot be/come "better men" without requiring a Warrior mindset.

You have to have a tribe, a woman, a wife, a Feminine to Defend.

Without that, you are rootless, leaderless, purposeless, meaningless.



Abrahamism counters this by neutering males, accepting Emasculation/Submission to "One God", and denying the Feminine / Mother / Nature from their own members. Only through subjugation/slavery are then given-back a woman that was already taken/raped/violated from you. Abrahamism accepts no (Masculine) competition within itself, and also destroys Warrior culture/values/ethics/virtues.
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*This theoretical overman will be some future being that has come to terms with his own existence and the innate paradox it entails, viz., to be a being in time and temporally ephemeral; to be a beneficiary of chaos and its victim.
This is the resentment to be overcome - towards ones own becoming.

*Transcending values entails the transcending of the accumulated ethics and values used to cope with existence and man's mortality.
Values used to calm the raging storm of human resentment as he gradually becomes aware of his essence and his vulnerability to the gaze of others.
Ethics and values developed to help man deal with his emerging self-consciousness - his growing objectivity helping his subjectivity adapt to the possibility of being known by another more than you know yourself; to have another control you more than you can control yourself.

*Two types of nihilism: feminine/masculine, passive/active, pure/positive.
The dominant nihilistic ideologies/dogmas are always masculine, positive: Abrahamism, Marxism, Postmodernism, seducing, attracting the feminine, emasculating the masculine as an aspect of tis dominance.

*Cosmos is neither linear nor cyclical because of chaos.
Chaos prevents the eternal return of the same. The cosmos goes in cycles but each cycle is not like the one that preceded it.

*Anarchy is impossible. Man is subservient to the forces that made him possible, represented by the Olympian gods. He can only hope to stand next to the gods as a homoios, ordering chaos in accordance with his own ideals which must remain in harmony with the gods.
Here the gods represent leaders not a tyrants.

*Chaos - energies with no pattern - are what make order possible, and order is what makes life and consciousness probable.
Chaos is what necessitates life and consciousness as a reaction, a way of dealing with Flux.
Without chaos consciousness would not be necessary - Ananke, primordial goddess; without chaos consciousness would not offer any advantage, there would be no natural selection since there would be no selection; choice would be a superfluous meaningless display of cosmic absurdity.

*Man stands on the side of the gods, on the side of ordering, resisting the forces of chaotic attrition, and by so doing accelerates the increase of chaos - this paradox relates to overman's paradox.



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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 8:29 am

f.ing kid haters, blocking "a.i" from supercharging the "next wave of kids" with ultra-skills,

for now...
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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 8:54 am

thy satyr "i have this f.ing telepathic fight with an "evil dude" named "archeni",
dunno if it´s just my super.phsychotic fantasies or if "he is real"

stuff like, he can "hack my fifa skills, etc,
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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 9:00 am

If you continue soiling my borders with your patronizing bullshyte I may have to pull a Putin on your arse and begin a "special operation" to clean it all up.
Your move.

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 9:16 am

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 9:17 am

Keep shelling....

Safety is on off.

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 9:21 am

I you are looking for a place where you can derail every thread with your obscurantist fArtistic crap....I suggest ILP.
You know the place, right?

*tik *tok.....*tik *tok...

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 09, 2022 9:36 am

you´r right, i should take a trip down that "memory lane"

discussing solipsistic delusions with freaks
cheer for the "joker"
share my sympathy with the imbeclies for why they will never be as cool as "superman" ,

what should my i.l.p proxy be like, ja ja bings, yeah, i´ll pick him,
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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 01, 2022 1:49 pm


"Stasis is a necessary fiction...."
Indeed.

*Another term for inert stasis?
Absolute, indivisible, immutable, singularity.
Why is it necessary?
Because an organic brain can only process dynamic change by reducing it to abstractions - binaries.
The first to evolve because it is the easiest, the most cost effective - the brain still becomes an energy hungry organ, meaning if it rows too large it may be less cost-effective - efficient.
A too big brain would be impossible to pass through a female's birth canal without compromising her survival and her proportionality, directly impeding her mobility.
Her dependence is already a factor, but now it would become a huge factor.
A brain above a certain size would also be too costly relative to the advantages it offers - too high a risk, cost, relative to the probable returns.
Being too smart, too aware, is detrimental to survival.
Only those with an IQ over 120 will understand.
Optimal intelligence is one that does not doubt, not question itself, its environments - entirely and completely dedicated to survival.
We see this in practice....higher IQ people tend to not marry and have fewer children - they are also less hedonistic; less dominate by their primal instincts and impulses.
They see too many possibilities and probabilities.

*Living in the 'now' is easier for animals and manimals.
Their perceptual-event-horizon is small, not too distant from their presence/present.
Unable to perceive probabilities it can only perceive the immediate, i.e., gratification, survival, ego.

*Unfortunately eternal return is an error. Hindu reincarnation did not believe in reliving the same, forever.
Karma is a contradiction of eternal return.
This is another way of preserving a particular ego, a particular life.
A test of your life choices....
Manimals need eternity to live their life with the future of others in mind - a future they will not participate in does not concern them.
They are subjective.

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PostSubject: Re: Übermensch Übermensch - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 08, 2022 9:25 am

Nietzsche, Friedrich wrote:
369Boredom.
There is a boredom known to the most refined and cultivated heads to whom the best the earth has to offer has become stale: accustomed to eating choice and ever choicer food and to disgust with the coarser, they are in danger of starving to death - for of the very best there is very little, and sometimes it has become inaccessible or rock-hard, so that even good teeth cannot bite into it.
[Human, All too Human (vol.2)]

In relation to Incels....

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