Part 1 of 7 part film examining the media coverage of the 7/7 (7th July 2005) bombings in London. Asides from the leaps of logic, the extreme-extrapolation contained in the epilogue, and the general... speed at which the narrator talks, this is an interesting film which I feel does contain some valid lines of argumentation regarding the 'conspiracy' of the 7/7 bombings.
I added this here cos I read some of Echo's threads and she makes mention of Jewish banks and such, so I thought that there may be some interest in this.
Basically, the film argues that the "suicide" bombers were not even on the trains that exploded, and that they were executed after following a scripted "test/run-through" of an event that exactly resembled what happened: on the day, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]'s "crisis management company" were performing a practice run-through of a hypothetical terrorist plot to blow up 3 trains and 1 bus. The 4 suspected terrorists were actors playing the role of terrorists (the film argues).
It also suggests a connection between a prime-time television show by the BBC in May (Panorama), the previous year (2004), where senior politician [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and Peter Powers, with other unnamed people discuss the same event happening, and the government's right to control media coverage of such an event.
Overall, it is an interesting thought-provoker, regardless of the "size of the conspiracy", as there are many coincidences that add up to a pretty inconsistent story regarding the nature of the attack. The brazilian [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] was shot in the head several times on the 22nd of July, the film ties this into the meta-narrative regarding the previous terror attack, and the government of the time (Tony Blair) as they attempted to recover support for a failing "War-On-Terror" in Iraq and Afghanistan. This ties in nicely with the ideas discussed in Naomi Klein's "[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]" - As New Labour/Neo-Con policies were generally made by following neo-liberal economic principles...
Satyr Daemon
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For me all signs point to a post Cold War rearrangement of global socioeconomic and military balances...and a gradual pullback to all that was implemented in the past and is no longer necessary.
I would say much of the privileges the middle-class enjoyed, up to the Soviet system's collapse was a method of preventing the infection of the western populations with communist ideals.
They did this by raising the standard of living, curbing the emergence of general poverty and despair that had resulted both in the French and Russian revolution, and by keeping control over the intelligentsia that would promote these ideologies as alternatives to the more vulgar capitalistic system - vulgar because it best reflects natural dynamics, except for the self-serving intervention upon them with the concept of ownership.
It is the last, in fact, that leads to much of the sense of injustice and disatisfaction the majority feel within capitalistic system...and it is this foundation that makes wealth the underlying power in western societies.
Having said that I must also mention that there is no such thing as a purely capitalistic system as there never has been and never will be a purely communist system...and as there has never been an authentic democracy, after its first nascent steps. In fact, every time capitalism veers closer to its own ideological purity it collapses, as happened recently.
So, we are dealing with the usual interchange of elites that sell an ideal - most actually buying into it - for the repetition of a lie convinces the mind of its veracity and the best liars must buy into the lie in order to sell it better - and these elites then attempt to gain power and then keep it...as it is normal for them to want to do so.
I think with the contributions of Freud's insights into human nature, even if he might have exaggerated certain aspects of it and didn't delve beneath others to any great depth (such as the impact of mortality)...and the later innovative application of these insights by his nephew Bernays have been used by the elites of that period to maitnain power using more clever methods. It is these same elites that still govern the U.S. and by extension Great Britain. They do so with more sophistication, keeping out of the limelight, living more private low key lives, exerting power from behind figureheads so that their authority is never noticed and when it is it can be dismissed as another conspiracy theory that undermines the common sentiment or mentioned in passing and then forgotten.
There is no better method to keep a slave enslaved than to convince him that he is already free and/or to train him to consider slavery a virtue, and his services and his discipline the very foundations of his identity. Christianity does it by selling the idea that the true test of one's worthiness for eternal life and the identification of piousness is the acceptance of an absurd dogma...and the extent that one suspends reason and does not question - has faith - determines the measure of one's worthiness: his sacrifice.
What is occurring now is a rearrangement, a change, where what methods were applied before are adjusted to new circumstances, in a world of continuously altering environments. Keep in mind that all this is enclosed within a global context, where no frontiers are accessible, populations are increasing and resources are dwindling...and this defines much of the dynamics in play and how these rearrangements take place.
This ties in nicely with the ideas discussed in Naomi Klein's "[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]" - As New Labour/Neo-Con policies were generally made by following neo-liberal economic principles...
Don't you think the 'banking crisis' is more along the shock doctrine lines...?
7/7 Ripple Effect is a load of conspiratainment hogwash. Basically, it takes the most conspiratorial view of a bunch of disparate news stories, and, ignoring all reason (despite invoking Occam's Razor) produces a countermyth to the Home Office's myth about what happened.
Muad Dib has now been unmasked as a messiah-wannabe 70 year old Yorkshireman living in Ireland.
Don't get me wrong, I think the official story of 7/7 is even bigger hogwash than 7/7 ripple effect, I just think that movie is poor.
There is a series appearing in segments on youtube called 7/7 The Big Picture and there's a forthcoming documentary called 7/7 Seeds of Deconstruction, and though they are a little out of date now Mind the Gap and Ludicrous Diversion are worth a watch.
Wow...you want a bizarre and nearly unbelievable conspiracy...
Veeeery interesting. 0_o There are like super extensive documentaries on this too. One has 6 parts.
When you first hear it you're like...whaaaat? Then you see their argument and you're like hmm... 0_o
There are also holocaust deniers, but that rabbit hole goes real deep because there's evidence everywhere that something happened. There are witnesses and footage etc so most deniers don't say nothing at all happened, they just think it's been exaggerated hyperbolic propaganda...and in some countries like Germany, you can be jailed for even discussing it....now that in and of itself is suspicious.
then again, we probably will become tyrannically globalized and genocide is already underway. I just have to find the best ways to maneuver around it I suppose.
Wow...you want a bizarre and nearly unbelievable conspiracy...
Hardly bizarre, and it is evidently very believable since millions upon millions of people believe it.
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Veeeery interesting. 0_o There are like super extensive documentaries on this too. One has 6 parts.
When you first hear it you're like...whaaaat? Then you see their argument and you're like hmm... 0_o
And then someone's like hey, and then you're all like no way bitch and then they're all like you bony skank and you're all like you peroxide whore and then...
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#2 of this series gives a motive. It was a race against Russia.
...HOOOOLY O_O
Henry Kissinger was behind it??
...how does that not surprise me....in the least...? And why hasn't that Jew been burned yet?
It would help if you could distinguish between documentaties exploring the moon landings and mockumentaries taking the piss out of conspiracy theorists.
Why are you so disgruntled, SIATD? Somethin' gotcha dooown little fella?
I think you are mistaking pedantry for discontent.
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By the way, you know I write like that to purposely be a retard. It's my specialty. I guess yours must be dry humor.
I don't believe for a second that you want to appear as a retard, so presumably this is some goth-generation post-ironic babble, a child who is insistent on continuing to play games.
Put another way, you should be careful that the habit of playing the retard doesn't turn into you actually being a retard. All too often I've seen (particularly in teenagers) something they've adopted sarcastically becoming their real characteristic, without then even realising.
Mhm...thank you oh wise one in his mid-twenties with a doctorate in anti-retard. Maybe you take yourself far too seriously...to be taken seriously.
Maybe your wisecracks and cynicism make you feel cool for now, but ultimately they will leave you angry, frustrated, lonely, sad, depressed and unfulfilled.
There are much better ways to deal with your unhappiness than slagging people off on an internet forum. In fact, almost anything is better than that.
No, initially I mockingly imitated your behaviour.
It was only when you defended it by saying you deliberately talk like a retard that I criticised it.
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and the videos I chose to post
No, I pointed out that you hadn't distinguished between documentaries advancing a conspiracy theory and mockumentaries taking the piss out of conspiracy theorists, which is a pretty big and obvious distinction.
then when I put you in your place...I'm the cynic who's slagging on internet forums?
O-kay den. -_^
I'm not presenting a moral objection to your behaviour. I'm pointing out that it will only exacerbate your unhappiness. Your embarrassment at being wrong about the video you posted is neither here nor there, unless you let it become an issue (which you are doing, which I am not morally objecting to, just point out it will only exacerbate your unhappiness).
If you don't care for yourself then you cannot expect anyone else to do so.
So outright confessions of the culprits behind the conspiracy aren't enough to please you? What video are you referring to anyway? Who says I'm unhappy and I don't care for myself? Are you for real?
Lol you really don't know what you're criticizing. Your projections are showing.
Ok well uh where Henry Kissinger himself is telling the 'scripted' story, and you're still not convinced, I don't know what you want...front row seats to area 51? You'd sooner believe the landing on the moon than open testimony and evidence that it didn't occur through tongue in cheek? I can see your point...if you're a fuckwit.
They're laughing about it because it was a big joke at the time. They're all old schmucks that don't give a fuck about their liability or lies. David Rockefeller has said some of the stupidest shit I've heard in my life but he doesn't care cuz no one notices and if they do there's nothing they can do about it.
Ok well uh where Henry Kissinger himself is telling the story, and you're still not convinced, I don't know what you want...front row seats to area 51? You'd sooner believe the landing on the moon than open testimony and evidence that it didn't occur? I can see your point...if you're a fuckwit.
They're laughing about it because it was a big joke at the time. They're all old schmucks that don't give a fuck about their liability or lies. David Rockefeller has said some of the stupidest shit I've heard in my life but he doesn't care cuz no one notices and if they do there's nothing they can do about it.
