To adequately explain my positions on body language, what it is, how it works and so on, I have to begin by laying down the groundwork, as I see it, and build from there. I'm a bottom<>up thinker, so I have to do this to make it comprehensible to others, and, primarily to myself. I call this bottomBrevity is a virtue and I will try to be as succinct and clear as I can. Nevertheless, the topic is complex and much more can be said about every part of it, but the topic is body language so this foundation has to be brief, and solid as possible, to make what follows make sense.
I begin with how man perceives existence. Man converts existence to a duality, because without it there is no juxtaposition and without that there is no consciousness and no judgment. Thinking is the juxtaposition of abstractions (noumena), formed by the synthesis of internal (esoteric), and external (empirical) data, with the apparent (phenomena), which is the perception of flux, or dynamic (inter)activity, that which is present/presence, interpreted the apparent. An organism is this tension, this conflict, between self, and otherness. It converts the flux, into dualities, by using the simplest method of on/off, and therefore the easiest to evolve. In eastern traditions this dualism is conceptualized as yin/yang, in the west we conceptualized it, under the influence of Abrahamism as good/evil, and in secular contexts as positive/negative, and/or good/bad. This on/off refers to systolic/diastolic metabolic rhythms, or cellular cycles, and to the simplest mechanism of neural energy flowing through neural clusters, triggering 'on', and no neural energies flowing through neural clusters, the state of 'off'. These states are not absolutes, because the difference between energy and what we call matter is a difference in rate of (inter)activity relative to the observing organism, and its metabolic rhythms...so its a mater of relationships. From this simplest neurological mechanism we get dualities, like good/bad, for starters referring to what is edible, and what is not edible, and from there we get the friend/foe, duality, and the fight/flight automatic reaction which becomes ingrained in the organisms DNA, as memory. Male/Female is this dualism manifested as sexual specialization. From this mechanism we also get binary logic, and our mathematics 1/0, duality, producing geometry and the extension of these binary codes in space time, forming lines and shapes that map out existence for the mind. To conceptualize existence the mind must convert flux into dualities, like (inter)action, denoting a degree of harmony, is converted to the concepts of attraction/repulsion. This duo signifies the relationship, which can be approached from the perceptive of degree of harmony and/or degree of disharmony, which is how patterned (order) and non-patterned (chaos) Energies (inter)act and by interacting become apparent.
The difference between what we call 'life' and the rest of existence, is memory. What differentiates life and distinguishes it from the non-living, is that its (inter)actions are informed by a past, which is stored, as code....and we call this DNA. For the living the past is never lost....it is always present, and this is why like needs and suffers. Need/suffering is life experiencing the flux of existence, relative to its past. We can say that for life the past is never forgotten, but is always made present, and that life is the constant challenging and reaffirming of the past, in relation to the present (presence) - the basis of evolution. To remain as brief as possible, the difference between what we call 'higher' organisms and 'lower' ones, is that for the latter past is made present, and present constantly (inter)acts, but for the former there is an added element of the 'future'. Past is made present, and then projected, as a form of preemption, into 'future'.
So lower organisms, or less-sophisticated ones are past made present - dualism; higher organisms, or more sophisticated ones, are a triad, with the addition of 'future = past/present/future. In the Platonic paradigm this is represented by the triad of charioteer/reigns/stallions - reason/will/passions = mind/nervous system/body. Christians took this and warped it into father/holy ghost/son.
We have an ascent, from duality to a triad. This is the distinguishing factor separating man from all of existence and from other, known, life forms. This triad is fundamental to comprehending body language, and psychology in general. It immediately points to different relationships with existence, and with each other. The mind/body divide, which I've analyzed in a thesis named Narcissism & Schizophrenia, is the root of nihilism and this current crisis of identity. It's a form of institutionalized psychosis. Compartmentalization, or newspeak, as Orwell named it , is this internal noetic compartmentalization expressed through the symbols of the nervous system, words. Nihilism also produces institutionalized autism, which is a byproduct of socioeconomic specialization.
Passing over to our focus we've established the evolution of a triad, as a product of an advancement, from dualism (past made present), into a triad (past made present projected toward future). This triad is the basis of our spirituality, philosophy, and our psychology. In organic terms it is mind connected to body via the nervous system, which also includes the brain, as its processing hub. Nervous system belongs to both and to neither, as it is the nexus where the physical is converted (translated) to energies, and where these energies are converted to mind, or consciousness.
As such we can say that language is the expression of the nervous system, first converting internal/external data to a medium the brain can process, and then re-converting them to (inter)actions (movement), and/or to art. Art is the externalization of mental models (abstractions), via a medium. Could be marble, sound, colour, texture, etc. Language is an rt-form, externalizing the mind's abstractions as sound - vocalizations, at first, and then as symbols, as it evolves in accordance with mental development.
In language we see the triad fully expressed as past (DNA), present (interaction), future (idea). There are, therefore, three stratum to language, each corresponding to mind/nervous system/body. All these are part of communication, or a conscious and sub-conscious level.
The body expresses itself, through automated processes not fully in the control, of the mind. This is why body can judge in antithesis to the mind's judgment - genes conflicting with memes. This conflict occurs in the nervous system, as anxiety....and comes out in language. Even written language can have three tiered meanings, sometimes one contradicting the others: text/sub text/intent. What words we choose, where in the sentence we place them, their frequency, all produces a linguistic melody. There's the dictionary definition, facilitating communication, there's metaphor implying something vaguely, and then there's the motive which is expressed sometimes without the writer/speaker being conscious of it. Body language should be added to the last part, only it is more clear when it is physical, and nor written. The writer can go to great lengths to clear his text of his own unconscious messaging, but the actor, the speaker, cannot. (Inter)activity is released in space/time and is not code, so it cannot be erased, or modified, nor can it be fully hidden. The reason why we wear clothes is because of the body's honesty, that may contradict the mind's speech. Body Language is the body expressing itself, through the nervous system, although the nervous system is not necessary, as in the case of plant. The human also emits odours, chemicals, energies into the world that circumvent the mediation of a nervous system. But even if they do go through the nervous system they cannot be fully controlled. This is what Know Thyself refers to - a continuous effort to know self, meaning past made present, and direct it towards an unknown, unpredictable future. We call this self-consciousness, and it may inhibit actions, and/or make them less graceful, fluid....because of the mediation of mind.
Body Language exposes the body's automated, memorized, reactions, and we call these 'tells' when they are not controlled or conscious to the actor.
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@17:00 I think you can see "micro-expressions" in Ted Bundy's face. Flashing hints of an oncoming smiling as he talks about the victims. He also reminds me of how a face looks like when someone is telling an "emotional" story while he is consciously accentuating his facial displays. He is consciously acting in that part.
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Females are genius in reading body language - deciphering subtle physical cues. Their reproductive role depends on them figuring out the group's psychological dynamics, the social hierarchy, and placing herself within its midst - figuring out her position in relation to others. This is why they gossip, as do men.
To make their talent more effective it has to remain intuitive, because rationalizing it would exclude data....a female compensates for her lack of clarity, with the awareness of subtlety that is then incorporated into a vague sensation they cannot rationalize, explain, define....but can feel. Vagueness allows her to include into her 'mental models' data that would be rejected if it could not be included coherently...as in the case of reasoning. This is where males fall behind. For them clarity is essential (being hunters), so they need to incorporate data into cohesive models. Males, therefore, reject all data that cannot be incorporated, or that contradicts cohesion. Females use vagueness to assimilate data that contradicts other data, or that cannot be incorporated into a cohesive model. She sacrifices quality for quantity. Depth of thought is replaced by breadth of thought. This is how her mind can include larger amounts of data into her judgments. This is automatic, because it is her body's genetic memories that are judging, and then sending this judgment to the brain where it is converted to sensation - an inexplicable feeling. Women are also more emotional....they rely on their automatic reactions to phenomena, having more confidence in their bodies than in their minds. They are perfect genetic & memetic filtering agencies, and are used to symbolize nature: the intuitive and counter-intuitive aspects of order/chaos.
This makes females difficult to fool, and more prone to disillusionment. Depending on how feminine/masculine they are, and what organ dominates - determining her psychology - they are usually in conflict between the ideals, they've been taught (meme) and the body's reaction to the wold in accordance to a past (precedent): the meme/gene conflict. Their minds may be told to value things, and male traits, that their bodies have evolved to reject. This conflict is what has been called 'female mystique'. Female indecisiveness, shallowness and fickle loyalties are due to this mind/body conflict, and her role as DNA sampler and evaluator. This is converted to memetic judge and jury. Her mind's judgments, raised to use cultural standards, conflict with her body's judgments, evolved in more austere, threatening environments. Pragmatism, versus instinct, or as they would put it: the mind versus the heart.
Body language is what she is fluent in, and she knows not how or why. Words are not decisive to her, depending on her quality of mind, because she knows they are representations that can be meaningless. This is why she speaks a lot - like an echo orientation. It is more the sound, frequency, and sequence, followed by the response, the reaction, that she is reading.
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Throwing back the head in laughter Laughter is the sudden release of nervous energy. Energy kept in reserve for the fight/flight mechanism The display expresses surprise, startle, called in comedy the 'punch line'. This surprise releases the nervous energies, mimicking orgasm....convulsions, hyperventilation, expulsion of air from the lungs, muscle clenching etc. The head is thrown back as an act of submission, exposing the throat - readiness for the coming unsuspected threat.
Females are genius in reading body language - deciphering subtle physical cues. Their reproductive role depends on them figuring out the group's psychological dynamics, the social hierarchy, and placing herself within its midst - figuring out her position in relation to others. This is why they gossip, as do men.
To make their talent more effective it has to remain intuitive, because rationalizing it would exclude data....a female compensates for her lack of clarity, with the awareness of subtlety that is then incorporated into a vague sensation they cannot rationalize, explain, define....but can feel. Vagueness allows her to include into her 'mental models' data that would be rejected if it could not be included coherently...as in the case of reasoning. This is where males fall behind. For them clarity is essential (being hunters), so they need to incorporate data into cohesive models. Males, therefore, reject all data that cannot be incorporated, or that contradicts cohesion. Females use vagueness to assimilate data that contradicts other data, or that cannot be incorporated into a cohesive model. She sacrifices quality for quantity. Depth of thought is replaced by breadth of thought. This is how her mind can include larger amounts of data into her judgments. This is automatic, because it is her body's genetic memories that are judging, and then sending this judgment to the brain where it is converted to sensation - an inexplicable feeling. Women are also more emotional....they rely on their automatic reactions to phenomena, having more confidence in their bodies than in their minds. They are perfect genetic & memetic filtering agencies, and are used to symbolize nature: the intuitive and counter-intuitive aspects of order/chaos.
This makes females difficult to fool, and more prone to disillusionment. Depending on how feminine/masculine they are, and what organ dominates - determining her psychology - they are usually in conflict between the ideals, they've been taught (meme) and the body's reaction to the wold in accordance to a past (precedent): the meme/gene conflict. Their minds may be told to value things, and male traits, that their bodies have evolved to reject. This conflict is what has been called 'female mystique'. Female indecisiveness, shallowness and fickle loyalties are due to this mind/body conflict, and her role as DNA sampler and evaluator. This is converted to memetic judge and jury. Her mind's judgments, raised to use cultural standards, conflict with her body's judgments, evolved in more austere, threatening environments. Pragmatism, versus instinct, or as they would put it: the mind versus the heart.
Body language is what she is fluent in, and she knows not how or why. Words are not decisive to her, depending on her quality of mind, because she knows they are representations that can be meaningless. This is why she speaks a lot - like an echo orientation. It is more the sound, frequency, and sequence, followed by the response, the reaction, that she is reading.
Or it could be that males are just bad at masking their body language. Females are good at faking body language. Because I think certain males, can easily detect the body language of other males. But that it is hard for both females and males to detect the body language of females.
Throwing back the head in laughter Laughter is the sudden release of nervous energy. Energy kept in reserve for the fight/flight mechanism The display expresses surprise, startle, called in comedy the 'punch line'. This surprise releases the nervous energies, mimicking orgasm....convulsions, hyperventilation, expulsion of air from the lungs, muscle clenching etc. The head is thrown back as an act of submission, exposing the throat - readiness for the coming unsuspected threat.
Doesn't look submissive to me. The exposure of a throat, at least in this scenario, is more like a challenge: "Here, I'm exposing a vulnerable part of myself. Dare to take a strike at it, motherfucker? Huh? Go ahead, and I'll fuck you up"
Kinda like that scene in braveheart, presenting your buttocks would usually be a sign of submission, not so in that context:
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The slant indicates a partial expression, hiding something as it reveals. The eyes, and turning to the side....are all part of the message.
In laughter there a closing of the eyes....as in sexual ecstasy....laughter is an expulsion of repressed nervous tension. The centre of the throat is exposed, Adam's apple...the most vulnerable part. Closing the eyes also indicates complete surrender to fate. Open eyes contradict this.
That comic characters expression is an arrogant expression multiplied and overdone purposefully, he looks up, looks above you with his head(not acknowleding you on the same level as himself), being explicitly rude and challenging through this gesture that shows lack of respect and expresses a strong sense of superiority yet his eyes are actually looking down into the eyes of whoever he is facing, to mock, challenge, make it even clearer that he is not only looking to disrespect or to show he is superior(or feels himself too superior to engage) but to fight also. Here is a good example(a guy I knew who was a huge narcissist and me and my friend for comparison): [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Notice the difference, though I think his displays were mostly from the angle of eroticism(the intense eye-contact, overdone with the eyelids closed to a point of almost not seeing anybody(to signify the intent of penetration and choice of where the sight is being cast to the female), the constant looking up and then re-engaging the females eyes to make the intent clearer and and make a bigger of an impact and so on, this particular imbecyle had bought himself little business cards with his number which he would give out on bus, metro etc., very feminine guy.
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Squinting does indicate a focus. A piercing gaze into the soul of the other.
Tilting of the head is about triangulation...a predator tilts its head to measure distance.
A slight tilts of the head back, chin out, gives the impression of length...distance. The other is displaying his superiority, slightly exposing his neck because he feels confident, unafraid. Squinting eyes give the impression of relaxation....unconcern. A display of how little he thinks of your ability oh hurt him. Nevertheless body is square, at the ready.
This specimen is typical of a wannabe. He's trying to hard. His need contradicts his display of confident indifference. I've met many like him. He's becoming typical in a feminized world...particularly since he is protected...nobody will call him out to prove his value, and if they do they risk persecution...and he'll find an excuse to excuse himself.
Yeah, with the eyes its a good point, though I still think he used them mostly to flirt with females but now that I looked closer I can definately see that he might have been switching from laser gazing to displaying boredom and indifference though actually paradoxically because he is pretending his expression is forced and its not fully fluent and coherent and its hard to tell sometimes because of that. moved the irrelevant bit of the post to my own thread my thoughts
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That comic characters expression is an arrogant expression multiplied and overdone purposefully, he looks up, looks above you with his head(not acknowleding you on the same level as himself), being explicitly rude and challenging through this gesture that shows lack of respect and expresses a strong sense of superiority yet his eyes are actually looking down into the eyes of whoever he is facing, to mock, challenge, make it even clearer that he is not only looking to disrespect or to show he is superior(or feels himself too superior to engage) but to fight also.
Yep.
Btw the guy in the white t-shirt reminds me of somebody
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A man's face as a rule says more, and more interesting things, than his mouth, for it is a compendium of everything his mouth will ever say, in that it is the monogram of all this man's thoughts and aspirations.
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The body speaks as the mind attempts to lie. The body is honest. It is unable to lie. Appearances are not superficial and irrelevant. they transmit information about the individual to another mind - its interpretation of this information is not arbitrary. Not all interpretation are equal in quality.
Appearance is the interpretation of presence, and presence is the manifestation of past. Cause/Effect does not imply a separation, but a flow....the effect exposes the cause - the cause is exposed in the effect. But, because a multiplicity of causes produce an effect, the singular cause is assimilated into the cause as part of a aggregate.
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The old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover" used to ward against judging others using only visual ques - mostly used to deter racial and sexual judgments is now proving to be wrong. First it places a sense of mistrust of our own sensual awareness. Something no man or woman born in ages before this mental disease took over, would have laughed at. Second is used a false metaphor, implying an association between a manufactured product - a book - and an evolved organism. A book is intentionally made according to manufacturing principles and show a uniformity only disrupted by the title and the image used to represent the content - book cover and text could be in contrast - for example you can produce a Bible with a pornographic image on the cover. This is not the case with appearance. Appearance is how the individual interprets presence, and presence is a manifestation of past. Appearance may be intentionally altered using surgery, make-up, or clothing, to conceal it, but this only proves its relevance. By appearance we do not mean the cultural garments or procedures used to conceal and accentuate....here the relationship between memes (culture, intervention, technology), and genes (sum of all nurturing; past made present) is also evident.
Females are particularly adept at reading physical markers to cut through pretenses and concealment. They had to evolve this talent because their survival and reproductive role depends on it. Appearance, or an accurate interpretation of presence to a form to be processed/analyzed, offers plenty of data/information. Information a woman may not be able to pinpoint or to explain, because her talent is intuitive.
Dutton, and others, being a male has to convert this intuition, this feeling, to rational. The Greeks defined beauty as symmetry and proportionality, and both of these factors are present in our subconscious ability to pass judgment suing only aesthetic information. Dutton is more focused on static image, but for me appearance would also have to include movement - physical, vocal, cues, grace, balance,subtle or not so subtle unconscious facial and physical particular expressions, mostly out of the control of the individual. This is what I include under the category appearance. haven't read the book but he may include these, but the small segment only speaks of static image interpreting facial symmetries and proportions. He offers images to test our own reaction to facial proportions. We can all, to varying degrees of accuracy, perceive something 'off' about a particular face - like something is wrong with it; a mental state, or a character trait is revealed to us and we do not entirely understand how or why. We feel, sense it unable to explain it to ourselves.
Activity, to which we can include both physical movement and verbal speech, also levels by contrast, e.g., when the individual's words contradict or are contradicted by his facial expressions, or unconscious physical movements.
I would say that this can also pass through this medium where only language is being used. Subtle data is exposed by how one words a sentence, what he focuses on and how, what syntax is used, its frequency and choice of metaphors, words, symbols etc. all expose character and/or mental/emotional disorders. there's the text, the subtext and the pretext. Similarly there's what one says, how one acts, and how he/she justifies it, especially when the two are in disharmony, disagreement, dissonance.
Not being able to judge appearances is another modern mythology and it appeals to their sensitivities of being gullible. It has to do with their inability to accept that anyone could "truly" understand who they are, because they have been raised on comforting, delusional idealism of self-esteem, and that they are too special for any person to fathom. Moderns love to believe they are special, smart, strong, virtuous, and that they are "mysterious".
Appearance manifests the essence of a person, because it is the unconscious emerging self, in motion. Every detail, is part of the pattern and constitution of the individual, in an incomplete way of course, but still resembling their identity. A discriminating mind picks up on these details and correlates them to the individual's identity. Appearance is directly that part of the individual which can be known immediately, as a manifesting genetic self; physically seen in a rawness of its being, even with pretenses. Pretension in fact, only exposes further what is being concealed, and thus, the "act" of pretension reveals a motive and even intimate knowledge of who they are.
For me, this is why looking at most people for long periods of time, whether im speaking to them or staring at them, disturbs me because of all of their unsightly primitive nature which bursts forth from them, like symptoms of an illness, something they have no control over.
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Not being able to judge appearances is another modern mythology and it appeals to their sensitivities of being gullible. It has to do with their inability to accept that anyone could "truly" understand who they are, because they have been raised on comforting, delusional idealism of self-esteem, and that they are too special for any person to fathom. Moderns love to believe they are special, smart, strong, virtuous, and that they are "mysterious".
Yes...they know not themsvles so the idea that another may know them more than they know themselves is disconcerting.
It is related to how I explain nihilism - i.e., a defensiveness emerging to protect the ego from its own increasing self-awareness - refusing to perceive how they compare/relate to others - source of insecurity and vulnerability.
Sartre wrote:
Hell is other people.
So another seeing this comparison, when they cannot or refuse to, is threatening to a mind that has adopted nihilism - even if unconsciously - to avoid this unsettling comparison. They find all value-judgments as being immoral, as a way of using Abrahamsim to shame it into silence or self-negation. They believe that if you do not speak of it, it ceases to exist - because words preceded actions - logos comes first; words/symbols are magical, creating reality, rather than representing it. To see is to be guilty of a immoral act. Morality, secularized as political-correctness, is to not acknowledge what one perceives - to not speak of it makes it drop out of existence - it is all a social construct, so if you stop speaking of race, or perceiving difference, it will no longer exist. Things may appear different, but are the same; there is no individual to compare another to because all is one or all is nil/nothing etc.
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Appearance manifests the essence of a person, because it is the unconscious emerging self, in motion. Every detail, is part of the pattern and constitution of the individual, in an incomplete way of course, but still resembling their identity. A discriminating mind picks up on these details and correlates them to the individual's identity. Appearance is directly that part of the individual which can be known immediately, as a manifesting genetic self; physically seen in a rawness of its being, even with pretenses. Pretension in fact, only exposes further what is being concealed, and thus, the "act" of pretension reveals a motive and even intimate knowledge of who they are.
Appearance is an interpretation/translation of what is present...so it depends on the quality of the mind doing the translating. A less sensually sensitive,a ware, mind, will fail to perceive details....and a lot of data will be lost in translation.
This is mostly automatic....the individual cannot stop itself form translating the present as appearance, along with all the differences it may refuse to acknowledge or place any importance upon, ideologically. An example of how body precedes mind forcing mind to accept or to reject.....so the brain automatically translates the present as appearance and then, due to nihilistic memetic defensiveness, may attempt to reject or negate what ti has itself interpreted. It does this so that other can reciprocate and not judge it using the same method. So it perceives difference in racial and gender types but ti refuses to accept them as meaning anything - ideologically, theoretically, it wants to dismiss them as constructs or illusory, or superficial, or as entirely meaningless. No other animal would dismiss its own perceptions in this way because no other animal suffers the psychosis self-consciousnesses produces.
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For me, this is why looking at most people for long periods of time, whether im speaking to them or staring at them, disturbs me because of all of their unsightly primitive nature which bursts forth from them, like symptoms of an illness, something they have no control over.
Over-stimulation, data overload, is fatiguing. sensitive spirits perceive details the mediocre do not,,,,cannot. In what seems simple for a complex mind is far more complicated....much more is going on, much more information is available to process.
Body is always honest, because it is reactive and it is more primal - evolving its own natural standards fro evaluating and choosing. Mind emerges alter and, at first, focuses the body, and alter it developed the ability to conceal and to selectively reveal what the body is saying to it and through it.
In this dialogue between body/mind always trust in what the body reveals through actions, movement, and only compare what the mind says through language. Body = gene Mind = meme
In case of dissonance, of disagreement between body/mind, always compare the mind's revelations to those of the body's; always trust the body's language.
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The mind can lie, the body cannot. And so the mind tries to control, deny, negate, forget, or conceal the body. The basis of nihilism and tis attempt to deny tangible, experienced, dynamic existence with symbols, words....the minds tools and weapons. Now we know why Abrahamism describes a god of the mind - expressed via language, logos - where ideas/ideals come to be.
Nihilism inverts. So action precedes logos, but not for nihilists. In all nihilistic ideologies/dogmas words/symbols always take precedence. Mind creates world, it does not emerge within it to interpret it - Dasein. All is subjective means, all only exists in the mind - there is no existence without mind, and so we return to Abrahamism, though many profess to be atheists or Communists when they are trapped within Abrahamic nihilism. Abrahamism didn't invent nihilism - it adopted most of it from Zoroastrianism - because nihilism is a natural by-product of emerging self-awarness - a defensive option arising with the evolution of self-consciousness. When the mind develops the ability to think in the third-person - objectively - then it is exposed to a new source of anxiety but also a new form of empowerment, which defensiveness serves. Mind must be protected from the negative consequences of its own awareness - this is the prime function of the brain, to be a tool for the organism's perpetuation in space/time. But with every advancement producing positive probabilities negative collateral probabilities follow.
Behavioural analysts are using patterns of behaviour. Genetic and social. Genes - Memes They sample species behavioural patterns in relation to individual behavioural patterns, juxtaposing the individual's behaviour in relation to precedent to discover diverge. Divergence indicates something true - mind/body dissonance. Contradiction of the rule - the pattern - exposes concealment.
Body cannot lie so it must be covered - concealed - and controlled by the mind - only the mind can lie and it does using gestures of symbolic redirection, or words. This is important in regards to nihilism because nihilism is defensive and so it's utility is as a form of cocealment.
Nothingness becomes a theoretical state that wants to conceal the existent, i.e., what is present, interpretation as appearance. Language represents mind's interpretation and it is here where nihilism enters to totally or selectively conceal what the mind cannot help but perceive - using semiotics to justify its own cocealment to the world but primarily to itself. Self-Deceit is vital in nihilism, otherwise its defensiveness would fail.
Memory is corrupted by trauma. The basis of evolution and how challenging environments force a genetic alteration - adaptation. We can place this within the contexts of experiential, memories. Remember DNA - genes - are inherited memories, added to by an organism's experiential memories - which for humans can be first- or second-hand. Both can be corrupted when transferred - during replication or recollection and transmission - we can call such corruptions "mutations". One source of corruptions are emotions, triggered by traumatic expriences - the most severe form of corruption is forgetting, negation. Traumatic events that may harm the mind/body - organism - if they are recollected will selectively recall so as to protect the organism from further damage. This is the benefit of subjectivity denying all objectivity, i.e., a defensive denial to recall what the mind fears will cause it harm. .
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Using Johnny Depp and Amber Heard as a case study we can all participate in witnessing.
What is identity? How does an individual expose his/her essence? Patterns of behaviour - repeating, consistent, predictable. Choices - exposing judgments. Choices can be used to trace back to an individual's judgement; judgement revealing need/desire and intellect, i.e., an individuals IQ, his/her ability to recognize and appreciate - evaluate - patterns, i.e., establishing a relationship with existence.
Need/Desire exposes what the individual is missing - his/her sense of insecurity, lack, imperfections. Need = physical lack - product of existence, i.e., constant interactivity depleting energies. Desire = excess lacking an object to expunge accumulated energies.
Need is to body what desire is to mind. Brain is an energy hungry organ, feeding on the body's excess. Ennui is how the mind expriences the equivalent to the body's need: absence of an object to expunge excess energy. This is related to libidinal energies because the primary evolutionary function of excess energies - after self-maintenance has been achieved - is to keep excess energies on stand-by for the fight/flight mechanism - redirected towards reproduction. An individuals choices - for the satisfaction of need - exposes their inner lack; an individual's choices - for the gratification of desires exposes their excess. Decadence is indicative of excess seeking constant expunging. Desire exposes an individual more directly than need because need is an absence - a man in need is a friend indeed - forcing an individual to make compromises whereas desire is a product of excess nd so it expresses an individuals power - what an individual would do if they had power, i.e., were independent, free, without need forcing them to compromise, self-control.
Performing a character takes focus and self-cotnrol - made easier over time when the performer becomes used to the character he/she plays. Only extreme trauma or pathos can break them out of the performance, therefore eros and thymos are tools which I've used in the past. I used to intentionally become abrasive with others on line so as to break them out of their chosen roles and so that I could see the real individual hiding behind the masks - a risky practice I've abandoned - for the most part - choosing a more demanding - in time - alternative; also less risky. As with business or making money - or achieving any goal - risk is increased when time is decreased - risk management, risk comfort. Here the path-of-more-resistance factors in, but I will not get into it. In brief: Non-living patterns, and/or congruities of multiple patterns, follow paths-of-least-resistance. Living organisms - unities of various patterns - choose to follow paths-of-more-resistance as part of their competition with other organisms. This differentiates life form non-life - will, i.e., focus of aggregate energies (choice) which may choose to a more demanding more resistant path to outperforms others. Therefore life is free in that it can choose - will - an alternate path through existence. But I digress, pathos is the only way to break an individual out of his learned - adopted - role/character (public face), allowing the visceral, organic personae to break through the pretentious veneer. So sex is the purest expression of need/desire. When it takes over the essence of an individual is revealed. Therefore an individual's nutritional, dietary preferences expose genealogy and an individual's sexual preferences, and entertainment preferences, his/her obsessions, passions, desires, expose his personae.
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Satyr Daemon
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