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PostSubject: Women and Prostitution. The Primal Instigators And Bane Of Men. Women and Prostitution. The Primal Instigators And Bane Of Men. EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 7:45 pm

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Women are the primal instigators and bane of men.  I don't think there really is anymore profound statement I can make when it concerns articulating a opinion that I have of women.

We can see it when it concerns sexual competition in the infighting of men because when it gets down to it a woman's attraction to men has to solely do with what they can provide for themselves in terms of resources, commodities, luxuries, security,  and well to do fortune.

Women don't care about love or romance.  Women are incapable of genuinely loving something in the way that they speak of the word.

With the whoring materialistic nature of women love is merely a word of wanting something and somebody who can provide it for them.

Men often enough in the spell of women will fight each other and the world around them in the constant seeking or acquisition of resources when it concerns attracting human females.

The reason I posted the picture of the two males fighting each other in this thread is a important one.

The two male rams will often enough during a mating season fight amongst each other in a competitive ritualistic display for several hours sometimes killing each other in the process over the accessibility to a female ram.  The female ram will often enough be present during this entire display watching from a distance to see who will later on be the victor in attaining mating privileges with her for a later time.

Does the female protest that such displays are taking place where either of the male rams might seriously injure or kill one another?  No, of course not.   The female ram merely accepts it as it is encouraging the violence and competition all the more around herself because it suits her when it concerns her own benefit from the act.

What is for the female ram is the same for the female human being.

All violence of young men can be directly reduced to their necessity of fighting one another for resources and opportunities to acquire them in the attracting of virile females.

Women are conscious human beings where at any moment they could willingly on their own change their consciousness in how men approach them and gain their attraction but often enough women won't because the fact of the matter is that the violent competition of men against each other is something that women benefit from to which women everywhere refuse to ever give up.  Women benefit from men's violent inhumanity towards each other.

In feminism women constantly speak of men's propensity of violence over women and the world around them but the more hidden deception of feminists I think is their refusal to acknowledge the role of women motivating men to such extremes as the prime instigators women have historically always have been not to mention still are today.

Man's propensity for violence is only overshadowed by women's instigation and constant agitation of motivating them to it.

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Since women revolve around men's ability to acquire resources, commodities, luxuries, securities, and a successful fortune it comes down to no surprise that women are the biggest contributors to maintaining class struggle or warfare amongst men in all societies.   Infact I'm surprised it hasn't been well documented the ability to use women on men as a effective tool in order to maintain the social status quo.  

This is probally why alot of modern governments have seek to only exalt modern feminism because of that very facet of their existence.

In order to control the behaviors of men all the more effectively it becomes a necessity to exalt femininity.


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What is for the female ram is the same for the female human being.


Please.

You're getting me all hot and bothered.
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TheJoker wrote:


What is for the female ram is the same for the female human being.


Please.

You're getting me all hot and bothered.

Huh?

How am I?
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PostSubject: Re: Women and Prostitution. The Primal Instigators And Bane Of Men. Women and Prostitution. The Primal Instigators And Bane Of Men. EmptyThu Aug 25, 2011 8:10 pm

Take my word on it Joker, she is one hot pussy.

You should see her ass...forget Lilith's breasts.
It is a work of pure art...nature at its best.
And you should see her breasts...nice and plump but mouth-sized.
Neat, and symmetrical.

Little Adam had a shot at it....but he fucked up royally.
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Take my word on it Joker, she is one hot pussy.

You should see her ass...forget Lilith's breasts.
It is a work of pure art...nature at its best.
And you should see her breasts...nice and plump but mouth-sized.
Neat, and symmetrical.

Little Adam had a shot at it....but he fucked up royally.

Are we talking about Poison?

If so, then yes I agree with you.

What do you think about the subject of this thread?

Is it tantalizing you any?

Care to indulge it?
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Are we talking about Poison?
Yes.
She's perfect for you, by the way.
She might not know it yet, but she is a sucker for your kind of "bad boy".
Her past proves it.

TheJoker wrote:
What do you think about the subject of this thread?
Old news, for me.
But you can discuss it with the others.

TheJoker wrote:
Is it tantalizing you any?
Only if you make headway with the girls.
I love watching mating rituals and practices.

TheJoker wrote:
Care to indulge it?
Not really.
I only want to watch.
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Σατυρ wrote:
TheJoker wrote:
Are we talking about Poison?
Yes.
She's perfect for you, by the way.
She might not know it yet, but she is a sucker for your kind of "bad boy".
Her past proves it.

TheJoker wrote:
What do you think about the subject of this thread?
Old news, for me.
But you can discuss it with the others.

TheJoker wrote:
Is it tantalizing you any?
Only if you make headway with the girls.
I love watching mating rituals and practices.

TheJoker wrote:
Care to indulge it?
Not really.
I only want to watch.

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Yes.
She's perfect for you, by the way.
She might not know it yet, but she is a sucker for your kind of "bad boy".
Her past proves it.

Smile We shall see....

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Old news, for me.
But you can discuss it with the others.

Not really.
I only want to watch.

Your no fun. I'm betting you would have alot of indepth knowledge to contribute towards the subject in question here.

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Only if you make headway with the girls.
I love watching mating rituals and practices.

The keyword here being if.
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What is the difference between modern women of the general public or population from that of occupational prostitutes?

Don't both types use their sexuality and physical bodies to exert themselves socially in society by ascertaining everything that they want from men?

What do we notice about modern women? A deeply materialistic hedonism and a overall narcissistic concern of themselves alone especially over men.

Why in order to exist in a relationship with any woman today as a man one has to meet a specific criteria of income, occupational status, appearances, and social privilege.

Afterall a woman's love is not free where instead it is bought for a price like a nice hundred dollar bill inserted into their vaginal pussies for a evening's social or sexual companionship with them.

Such is the prostitution nature of women who prostitute themselves willingly.

A relationship with a woman nowadays is not contingent upon love, romance,compassion, chivalry, or valor as women will often enough exclaim idealistically in their defense. All of that is bullshit. All of that is merely camouflage for what women really primarily value.

What women really value in men today is money, power, influence, security, and general appearances.

Specifically with money which is highest significance of male's power in modern society is what really concerns the modern female.

Money is buying and acquiring power.

In this regard there is no difference from a great deal of general female populace from that of prostitutes.

The whoring nature of women then becomes all the more revealed.

In order to gain the attraction of a woman along with the mating privileges with her it requires a man to be very wealthy to access that which is in between her legs let alone to have a social relationship with anymore.

The message from the general populance of women becomes all the more clear.

If you wish to ascertain the "love" of a woman as a man you must first be economically and financially viable to purchase it. You can only ascertain it by purchase.

With all of this it really becomes no wonder why female bitchery and snobbery in modern society is at a all time high.


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Whenever I have the strong desire to reach the limits of my potential--rising to 'polymath' status, I can usually trace this desire back to females.

It might seem a bit pathetic to be so influenced by them, but it's part of what makes my life exciting, and I enjoy it for what it is.
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Joker

A woman would say that they are required to prostitute themselves as such in order to function in society. And perhaps to a degree this is the case. But the thing I would think is that it is important to realize that succumbing to such action for the sake of fitting in only facilitates the necessity of that action in the future for other people. It is a viscous circle. The only way out is for a woman to give up on the idea of doing things that are purely for fitting in. It may promote disorder or pain for a time or for one's life time but it allows the opening for others to stand up against the silliness later.

Interestingly though men do the same things in many ways, they succumb to the pervading idea that to be a man or to be manly you must be a sexual being and thus many of them go out and succumb to sexualism for the sake of status. By participating in the system as such they themselves are also facilitating the perpetuation of it. In other words if you buy the product you are funding the action/production. And ultimately giving reason for women to behave in that way...because it works...

So it would seem that it would be best for women to work to step away from such regardless of it being instinctually fun to some degree, which of course it is sense it is so conditioned into people, and step away from the idea that all their woes and the nature of their existence is as such purely by the treatment of men. While men do harm and such is unjust it is likewise unjust to facilitate the conditions that promote and allow such behaviors to fester.

And it is reasonable though for men to also step out of their instinctual barbaric urges for orgasm and such satisfactions. There is no need for sex other than for procreation if the goal is the survival of humanity. One can lead a perfectly happy life without fucking like rabbits. Associating such pleasure to an object only allows one to be controlled by those that control that object, even be it porn of whatever sort. It is self Pavlovian conditioning, a person feels great when masturbating to the image of a woman all the time, then later when the image of a woman is present they are slightly subconsciously (and often consciously) made happier or excited.
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Yes, prostitution is a female behavior, as it is a way of integrating, by making one' self useful, desirable, marketable to others.

female apes prostitute themselves for protection, creating alliances wihtin the group by suing sexual favors.

Since both biological males and females have feminine aspects, to varying degrees, both men and women can prostitute themselves...and in a feminized world this is becoming more and more the norm....the difference being one of price.

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Women do tend to be the system's reward for the banal. But this is not their fault. It's a result of their evolutionary position. They, being the primary caregivers to our offspring, our genetic future, have to think in terms of the practical.
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Yes, prostitution is a female behavior, as it is a way of integrating, by making one' self useful, desirable, marketable to others.

female apes prostitute themselves for protection, creating alliances wihtin the group by suing sexual favors.

Since both biological males and females have feminine aspects, to varying degrees, both men and women can prostitute themselves...and in a feminized world this is becoming more and more the norm....the difference being one of price.

Is it any wonder that the natural female you describe would adapt themself to Capitalism? As you point out, female monkeys have been seen trading sexual favors for food.

For all the respect I have for Joker, I would argue that females are merely adapting to a world that men have created.
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Relevant to this subject: the idea of the natural inclination to monogomy on the part of females has been proven false by evolutionary psychology:

if the females in our species were naturally inclined to monogamy


(we would be a really rare species
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What needs to be brought into this discourse is the diffrence between short term mating strategies and long term.


Both sexes are equally capable of both.
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Anyway, it's been fun:




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What needs to be brought into this discourse is the diffrence between short term mating strategies and long term.


Both sexes are equally capable of both.
Then it should be brought into it as a social strategy before it becomes a genetic one.
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The thing to to understand as far as females are concerned(from an evolutionary perspective

(is that females are always caught in the catch-22 of being torn between the alpha-male, which will give them the best possible genetic makeup while not being the most likely to stick around and help raise the offspring he helps produce, and the the beta male that will, yet has a less than optimal genetic makeup.
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d63tark wrote:
What needs to be brought into this discourse is the diffrence between short term mating strategies and long term.


Both sexes are equally capable of both.
Then it should be brought into it as a social strategy before it becomes a genetic one.

They're both the same.....

With all due respect.
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Sometimes.
At other times a female capitulates so as to retain alliances and ensure the aid of a male in bringing up her brood she has had with another male.

Perhaps this genetic sampling which results in diversity is more a result of bigger-brained organisms making sacrifices within a social organization.
Perhaps genetic sampling is a matter of politics.

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ReluctantPacifist: Whenever I have the strong desire to reach the limits of my potential--rising to 'polymath' status, I can usually trace this desire back to females.

It might seem a bit pathetic to be so influenced by them, but it's part of what makes my life exciting, and I enjoy it for what it is.

Pussy as a motivation to acquire knowledge and intelligence in order get a high paying career which ensures a secure ample supply.

That certainly is the working modern strategy and method employed in this information era when it concerns men who possess such knowledge.

If your really effective at advanced mathmatics, mechanics, and technologies all of which are profitable forms of knowledge these days when it concerns economical demand your secure in the pussy arena when it concerns having the money to lure women.

However if your a man who doesn't have any of those skills in today's world you have to be a bit more inventive and creative to lure them.

I've been cursed in this modern world in that I'm purely a academical man when it concerns knowledge, skills, and intelligence.

My skills are the least in demand these days economically that is officially anyways.

Of course there is my unofficial skills as a street criminal which at this point I'm in the process of experimenting with in seeing if there is any profit that can be made with that.

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Abstract: A woman would say that they are required to prostitute themselves as such in order to function in society. And perhaps to a degree this is the case.

Yeah, women make up a bunch of bullshit excuses for their behaviors and when they don't they'll just outright lie their asses off.

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ut the thing I would think is that it is important to realize that succumbing to such action for the sake of fitting in only facilitates the necessity of that action in the future for other people. It is a viscous circle.

It is a vicious cycle. The price for pussy in today's world is too damn high.

In this modern world we have pussy inflation all over the place.

One of these days I hope the market crashes so that then and only then will the price of pussy lower in being more affordable to all men.

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The only way out is for a woman to give up on the idea of doing things that are purely for fitting in. It may promote disorder or pain for a time or for one's life time but it allows the opening for others to stand up against the silliness later.

With women's vanity that is never ever going to happen.

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Interestingly though men do the same things in many ways, they succumb to the pervading idea that to be a man or to be manly you must be a sexual being and thus many of them go out and succumb to sexualism for the sake of status.

Men have their behavioral flaws of course but by far women are the worse when it concerns judging and upholding extremely ridiculous standards or expectations in others.

Men are visual where women are material is the general way I look at human relationships.

Men are by far less materialistic than women.

Women are so much more shallow than men.

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By participating in the system as such they themselves are also facilitating the perpetuation of it. In other words if you buy the product you are funding the action/production. And ultimately giving reason for women to behave in that way...because it works...

Well one could make the argument that women manipulate men into such.

Women in today's world become high priced valued prizes where they know that their in demand, objectified, and highly valued.

In the market economy women are prized commodities and of course the more attractive women know all too well about this.

Like any ceo of a company that manipulates it's services for a higher profit ratio women utilize this to their advantage and manipulate the shit out of men on a daily basis.

Men in turn will fight amongst each other in competition for gaining access to the prized trophy that is woman.

Who is in control of who? All throughout history it has been stated that men dominated the world but really who was it dominating men from the bedroom chambers?

Of course men probably dominated more in the west when it was still culturally a patriarchy but with the politically correct elimination of that for a feminine matriarchy structure instead that western civilization currently enjoys it becomes clear who is charge of whom anymore.

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While men do harm and such is unjust it is likewise unjust to facilitate the conditions that promote and allow such behaviors to fester.

That right there is exactly what I meant when I described women as effective tools in maintaining the status quo or social class structure. Infact women themselves are the best effective tools against men in maintaining social class warfare.

Women are creatures completely guided by the material where because of that their prostitute like nature embedded within them by a variety of things constantly makes them seek out men with the most amount of money, resources, materials, securities, possessions, and so on.

This in turn makes men compete amongst each other more stabilizing and maintaining social inequality.

This is also probably why nations who have embraced disaster capitalism have adopted feminism unequivocally.

Whoever controls, contains, directs, and guides the behaviors of women have control over the male population as well since males are highly influenced by their sexual desires or appetites.

Those who control society know this and have known this for some long periods of time.

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And it is reasonable though for men to also step out of their instinctual barbaric urges for orgasm and such satisfactions. There is no need for sex other than for procreation if the goal is the survival of humanity.

With human beings sex also revolves around physical pleasure, status, and a sense of satisfaction.

With our psychological makeup it's not just limited to procreation.


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One can lead a perfectly happy life without fucking like rabbits.


Says you.

I for one can't stomach the idea living like some celibate priest. Fuck that.



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Associating such pleasure to an object only allows one to be controlled by those that control that object,

I understand what your saying. It can't be helped however. It is what it is.

Women understand this. This is how they cleverly manipulate men.


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even be it porn of whatever sort.

If watching porn was a "sin" I'm going to hell.

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It is self Pavlovian conditioning, a person feels great when masturbating to the image of a woman all the time, then later when the image of a woman is present they are slightly subconsciously (and often consciously) made happier or excited.

There are certain physical imperatives that you can't escape however.

Those that sex longer and more frequently have healthier lifestyles.

Some studies I've read say that people who have it frequently live longer.

Like hunger sex is reduced to physical urges.


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Satyr: Yes, prostitution is a female behavior, as it is a way of integrating, by making one' self useful, desirable, marketable to others.

female apes prostitute themselves for protection, creating alliances wihtin the group by suing sexual favors.

Indeed. Isn't it interesting that thousands of years of civilization only reduces the behaviors of human beings mimicking that of apes? Laughing

I personally like observing the behavioral of female homo sapien primates. There's alot to be learned from the position of inquiring male mind.


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Since both biological males and females have feminine aspects, to varying degrees, both men and women can prostitute themselves...and in a feminized world this is becoming more and more the norm....the difference being one of price.

How would a man prostitute himself? As the provider?

Prostitution has always been the woman's corner as far as I'm concerned.

Also, men in my opinion are less judging and have fewer expectations than that of women.

Men are more simple minded compared to women's horrendous absurd and often misguided complexities.









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Women do tend to be the system's reward for the banal. But this is not their fault. It's a result of their evolutionary position. They, being the primary caregivers to our offspring, our genetic future, have to think in terms of the practical.

That's the excuse anyways.

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Is it any wonder that the natural female you describe would adapt themself to Capitalism? As you point out, female monkeys have been seen trading sexual favors for food.

For all the respect I have for Joker, I would argue that females are merely adapting to a world that men have created.

Whatever world men created is now lost with the annihilation of patriarchy for matriarchy instead.

The feminine matriarchy has taken over completely.

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Relevant to this subject: the idea of the natural inclination to monogomy on the part of females has been proven false by evolutionary psychology:

if the females in our species were naturally inclined to monogamy


(we would be a really rare species

In a way monogamy hardly exists at all.

Young women go from one man to the next fucking around before ever committing to one guy. ( men also with women.)

For the most part monogamy is rare amongst human beings.

Later on after fucking around men and women might opt for a monogamy type relationship between each other but only after intercourse with several people before hand.

People remaining monogamous their entire lives is just a rare thing. It doesn't happen often.

Specifically with women after they get bored with one male fuck they just hop or squirt onto the next.

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What needs to be brought into this discourse is the diffrence between short term mating strategies and long term.


Both sexes are equally capable of both.

What's the relevance of that to this topic? Just curious.
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A woman is often enough like a horse.

She is not interested in you if you don't have any carrots dangling in front of her on a rope or string.

She won't even let you saddle her if you don't constantly feed her appetite for carrots.

It's not you or your personality and character that she is interested in.

She only cares about those dam carrots that you have.

She is only interested in your constant providing of carrots.

The moment you can't provide enough carrots out the stable she runs off.

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Unlike other species, where the male tends to the more colorful and pretty, in our case women are physically more beautiful while our males tend to be awkward and ungainly.

Unlike the peacock, we have to do things like this to spread our feathers. This is the one thing we have as human males. We have something to drive us to something beyond anything any other species can do. The stakes are far higher for us than any other species of male. And this is what makes us far more beautiful than any other species of male.

And the guys who are out getting laid aren't sitting around articulating on this shit. We are.

We get what we get. And I have no regrets about it.

I know it's hard focus on when your dick is hard all the time, but our males have shown the ability to project out of the world into space (quite often because they didn't get laid) and I think that's something. It's not something the alpha male among apes can actually think about doing.
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Ultimately, Joker, our problem with women comes down to one fatal fact

(it's why, among most species,


women tend to be the coyer sex:


men can produce sperm with ford-like efficiency



women only have 1 egg for certain amounts of time



(Imagine the market value of that egg




as compared to your sperm.
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On top of that, they're the ones who are basically forced to deal with the offspring produced.

And like everyone, male or female, they can always use a little help.
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I've been cursed in this modern world in that I'm purely a academical man when it concerns knowledge, skills, and intelligence.

My skills are the least in demand these days economically that is officially anyways.
Women are, even the intellectual ones(especially those who have yet but will soon see the light), are often pressured by society more deeply to fit in due to the themselves to a large degree (this can be shown in that most men don't give a rats ass about what cloths they are wearing...much of what they do is in respect to appearing such as to be able to socialize with their own ilk) Keeping this in mind it is reasonable to see that it appears that there are not so many out there seeking the knowledgeable, skillful, intelligent type. ( your might like the Yoko Ono type...though maybe she was to esoteric/religious for your type...maybe a Tibetan Buddhist-ish...IDK) But they are there (even in America, yet even women are good and camouflage away from the presumptuous eyes of the mob)... The problem often is that the male of such a type in thinking there are not enough that that male can get along with, he puts more effort in to disingenuous behavior to attract them. That leads to embarrassment typically wherein they then withdraw from action on the matter. It is a deception to think the male is the hunter, even given sexual interests, it is the female in this situation that is the hunter. The prey need only plump themselves for the particular type that has the tastes that male likes. Thus be yourself and the like mind, even one away from the typical feminine circling, will strike. It takes time and sometime choosing the right place to sacrifice the self helps... ( Just a little advice you don't want...)



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In this modern world we have pussy inflation all over the place.
Lol


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Men have their behavioral flaws of course but by far women are the worse when it concerns judging and upholding extremely ridiculous standards or expectations in others.
The night is always dark on the other side...

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Men are visual where women are material is the general way I look at human relationships.

Men are by far less materialistic than women.

Women are so much more shallow than men.
No...I would think it is the same, men want materialistic things just the same, they are just different and varyingly to different degrees but the average degree is equivalent. How many men don't want money? how many don't play a shit tun of video games especially when younger, how many by expensive (and/or gas guzzleing and/or 'decked out" and/or aesthetically plzing to their boyfriends) cars, how many buy expressive cloths? (less so maybe but different primaries) How many waste money on watching sports or gambling on sports, or gambling alone? Or buying rediculously big uneeded houses, with nice airconditioning systems thfor two story houses that use up more energy? IDk I could keep going ...

Man 90% of the 1st world countries (maybe that much of the world in general) are populated by materialists. maybe your just not looking at certain materialistic tendencies in men because you are avoiding thus to see them in your self? Or simply not having the external view...IDK

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By participating in the system as such they themselves are also facilitating the perpetuation of it. In other words if you buy the product you are funding the action/production. And ultimately giving reason for women to behave in that way...because it works...

Well one could make the argument that women manipulate men into such.
that would be a rationalization, why are women more responsible for waking up and seeing the instinctual-desire-sexual manipulations of each other? Men are just as responsible for getting away from manipulations and boycotting the manipulation industry as well. It is a circle and in order for wither to get to the straight path on this hike they need to notice, "Oh, I'm going in circles..."

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Women in today's world become high priced valued prizes where they know that their in demand, objectified, and highly valued.

In the market economy women are prized commodities and of course the more attractive women know all too well about this.

Like any ceo of a company that manipulates it's services for a higher profit ratio women utilize this to their advantage and manipulate the shit out of men on a daily basis.

Men in turn will fight amongst each other in competition for gaining access to the prized trophy that is woman.

Who is in control of who? All throughout history it has been stated that men dominated the world but really who was it dominating men from the bedroom chambers?

Of course men probably dominated more in the west when it was still culturally a patriarchy but with the politically correct elimination of that for a feminine matriarchy structure instead that western civilization currently enjoys it becomes clear who is charge of whom anymore.
Are things ever exactly equal? It is either more on one side or another at some time, what matters if it is a little more on theirs for now? The materialist like/seek the king-title, so get the king-title. Let the head sheep think they lead, while the shepherds (male and female) follow the herd.

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While men do harm and such is unjust it is likewise unjust to facilitate the conditions that promote and allow such behaviors to fester.

That right there is exactly what I meant when I described women as effective tools in maintaining the status quo or social class structure. Infact women themselves are the best effective tools against men in maintaining social class warfare.

Women are creatures completely guided by the material where because of that their prostitute like nature embedded within them by a variety of things constantly makes them seek out men with the most amount of money, resources, materials, securities, possessions, and so on.

This in turn makes men compete amongst each other more stabilizing and maintaining social inequality.

This is also probably why nations who have embraced disaster capitalism have adopted feminism unequivocally.

Whoever controls, contains, directs, and guides the behaviors of women have control over the male population as well since males are highly influenced by their sexual desires or appetites.

Those who control society know this and have known this for some long periods of time.
surely it is used but I would think that males might be using it at least just as well as women...I suspect part of the problem is the pervading idea that because it is a natural desire it is one that is ridiculously hard and perhaps unreasonable to overcome...most of the desire is psychological though...yet psychological addiction is harder to over come then some would think...espicaialy given desire to ignore it as such.

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And it is reasonable though for men to also step out of their instinctual barbaric urges for orgasm and such satisfactions. There is no need for sex other than for procreation if the goal is the survival of humanity.

With human beings sex also revolves around physical pleasure, status, and a sense of satisfaction.

With our psychological makeup it's not just limited to procreation.
One does not "need" sex to survive... Gandhi is good proof of that. (though he did some strange experimentation)

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One can lead a perfectly happy life without fucking like rabbits.


Says you.

I for one can't stomach the idea living like some celibate priest. Fuck that.
celibacy is a bit extreme... even such a thing as sex can become boring...


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Associating such pleasure to an object only allows one to be controlled by those that control that object,

I understand what your saying. It can't be helped however. It is what it is.

Women understand this. This is how they cleverly manipulate men.
It can be helped... to say otherwise is but a deterministic rationalization. It is just a matter of not wanting to help doing it. There is knowing a thing is worth not doing, and then believing a thing is not worth doing (like hearing vs listening), one doesn't do something if they really believe it is not worth it.

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even be it porn of whatever sort.

If watching porn was a "sin" I'm going to hell.
me too...

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It is self Pavlovian conditioning, a person feels great when masturbating to the image of a woman all the time, then later when the image of a woman is present they are slightly subconsciously (and often consciously) made happier or excited.

There are certain physical imperatives that you can't escape however.

Those that sex longer and more frequently have healthier lifestyles.

Some studies I've read say that people who have it frequently live longer.

Like hunger sex is reduced to physical urges.
According to what i have read on it it is a result of the physical messaging, and psychological aid. If one seeks such but does not get it of course they will be detrimented, their psychological state will not be conducive to survival. one who doesn't give a shit though...

Messaging the area specifically between the balls and the anus aids blood flow and helps reduce likely hood for certain cancers.

None of which requires orgasim or sexual intercourse itself...

But I am not here to say one "should" not have sex...

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Unlike other species, where the male tends to the more colorful and pretty, in our case women are physically more beautiful while our males tend to be awkward and ungainly.

We are only conditioned to think they are more beautiful. (an alien would think we were both ugly...unless they were "beyond" thinking in terms of beauty or ugly...
I think the reason women are considered beautiful is perhaps due to the fact that men inadvertently sanctified them in the past them in the past. For example if one hides a thing long enough it becomes more rare when it is in view...rare = valuable. By preventing women from promiscuity, and many activities, maybe we made the likeness of them seem more valuable. Now that they are more out and about men are more deeply effected by appearances... so it would be reasonable to think that at least for a time such will be more effecting on us... I have to wonder if over time we all may get more used to it... I would think that if everyone walked around naked all the time we would stop caring so much about what one looked like under their cloths...(because there would be no under the cloths...)... but we would get used to it... Perhaps we are just at a cross roads of sorts...
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