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PostSubject: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:15 pm

How does one even begin prescribing pills and drugs for individuals with supposed mental deficiencies?

What proof is there that such individuals have what is defined as a chemical imbalance in the brain neurologically speaking when it concerns supposed mental deficiencies?

Is a MRI performed on the so called patients when it concerns inquiry?

How do we even know how chemical measurements of a person actually translates anything at all when it concerns behavior?


Often enough no MRI is performed where individuals are assumed to have a problem where they are prescribed psychotropics anyways.

All of this has to make you wonder if psychiatry is actually based upon any sort of science at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:21 pm

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How does one even begin prescribing pills and drugs for individuals with a supposedly mental deficiency?

What proof is there that such individuals have what is defined as a chemical imbalance in the brain neurologically speaking when it concerns supposed mental deficiencies?
There is no such thing as proof, its all a matter of convincing.

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Is a MRI performed on the so called patient?
Sometimes. Most of the time no.

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How do we even know how chemical measurements of a person actually translates anything at all when it concerns behavior?
Trial and error. Most patients will switch medications multiple times.

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Often enough no MRI is performed where individuals are assumed to have a problem where they are prescribed psychotropics anyways.
Right.

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All of this has to make you wonder if psychiatry is actually based upon any sort of science at all.
I think it is based on science. Science isn't perfect nor is it ever comprehensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:28 pm

Lol that's cute.

You think they really want to make people better or that they're qualified to do so.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:29 pm

It comes down to....

Nazi Eugenics and Money...

Money and Nazi Eugenics...


And that covers it.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:59 pm

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Lol that's cute.

You think they really want to make people better or that they're qualified to do so.

You gotta problem with that? I'm a living testimony to psychiatry.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:00 pm

Poison IV wrote:
It comes down to....

Nazi Eugenics and Money...

Money and Nazi Eugenics...


And that covers it.

If I were to enter the field of psychiatry or psychology I would be doing it out of meaningful pursuit of helping.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:30 pm

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:09 pm

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Poison IV wrote:
It comes down to....

Nazi Eugenics and Money...

Money and Nazi Eugenics...


And that covers it.

If I were to enter the field of psychiatry or psychology I would be doing it out of meaningful pursuit of helping.

Cognitive and neuroscience has proven all too well the effects the physical infrastructure can have on the mind. There is plenty of proof for it, and any argument that mental illness is some kind of issue of will power is utter nonsense.

Recently read an article in The Atlantic that pointed out that Whitman, the bell tower killer, had been complaining for some time before the incident of sudden urges to kill. He had even asked in his suicide note that science look into his brain and find out if there wasn't something physically wrong with his brain. After, his request was honored and his instincts were proven to be right:

They found a tumor that was pushing up against, and therefore compromising the part of his brain that participated in impulse control.

Right now, 99% of the people on death row have a particular genetic string that scientists have associated with anti-social behavior.

So there is every reason for believing in the success story you claim as concerns psychiatric drugs.

The irony, to me, is the insistance of the free-willers here, who claim to have their assertions rooted in reason and objectivity, on the old ghost in the machine/dualism of christianity.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:17 pm

At the same time, I will agree with them to the extent that there is an element of social control in the prescribing of psychoactive drugs. Nothing like a chemical lobotomy to control a potential dissident.

But that doesn't mean some people don't actually need the help.
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PostSubject: Re: Drugged Up On Psychiatry Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:22 pm

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At the same time, I will agree with them to the extent that there is an element of social control in the prescribing of psychoactive drugs. Nothing like a chemical lobotomy to control a potential dissident.

But that doesn't mean some people don't actually need the help.
Did you need the help?
I understand.

Psychology is no science at all...not unless you consider chemical interventions to "correct" genetic deficiencies by intoxicating the brain a healing process.

Now perhaps an emotionally addicted man, woman, like you will find hope in finding some chemical balls, but being aided with technologies does not really change you.
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