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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 17 Jun 2015 - 21:42

Now that homosexuality has been taken off the psychologist's list of dysfunctions, we can redefine all terms to escape their natural connections and agree with the new social realities.

Sociopath, if it is accepted as a psychological term at all, now describes anyone who challenges the norms - a memetic warrior struggling to replace the institutionalized alpha with his own values.
Essentially to be male is to be sociopathic, and to be "healthy" is to remain feminine in how you relate to the institutions.
Having lost most connections to their past, boys delve into pop-culture to find inspiration, and there they turns into caricatures to be mocked by the females.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Thu 18 Jun 2015 - 12:36

Having killed off God, man takes that Holy place and begins rationalizing the world using himself as the middle, the measure of all things, the point of 1/0, alpha/omega.
On either/or side of himself the world extends, towards order/chaos, negative/positive, and depending on the particular psychology of the mind in the middle, the nature of the subjective motive, the cosmos takes shape in binary form...the motive being the singularity, the absolute, total knowledge/understanding, imploding into the mind, merging into an abstraction, a noetic one.

And when man surveys this creation he sees it is ordered, it has reason, it is full of potentials...malleable, useful, valuable.
Cosmos as the jewel, the κοσμιμα.

He is torn apart - the (+/-) pushing and pulling at him, the positive/negative spin and counter-spin stressing his particular arrangements, both God and Satan.

His ordering, trying to resist, by making sense of the turmoil - questioning the assumed Order, the Divine hierarchy.

Man now becomes this Deity, this neutral, immutable thing, this ONE, in relation to all things are measured....extending to his left/right (brain hemispheres) in a ordered (+)....<>.....(-) symmetry.
To his One no nil will be tolerated.
Who shall dare question his divine presence, his cosmic dominance, his order?

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Sun 21 Jun 2015 - 2:00


Dis-Harmony between mind and body, as a result of Nihilistic memes infecting minds still the product of a body expressing genetic past, leads to an internal turmoil that may advance to madness, and/or suicide.
The Nihilistic meme contradicts the genetic past. There is no continuance – there is conflict where mind is placed on a pedestal to fabricate, using abstractions detached from reality, a new world, a better world, one with no sex, race, value judgments, suffering, death, conflict.
Nothing but peace and pleasure.
The so-called "primordial sin" is the Christian expression of this past shaming, or contradicting, the Judeo-Christian nihilistic projected ideal.
In its secular humanist, Modern, form it becomes ashamed for being human, for seeing divergence (prejudice, bigotry), for wanting to be male (sexism), for seeing gradations of intelligence amongst the sacred human species, for believing in chaos, and not having faith in the, Primal One, the cosmic Order – chosenness become the humanness.

The self-hatred that springs from this inability to meet the ideal’s standards, because they are entirely unnatural, artificial, human constructs, resulted in the Christian mind suffering in shame, desiring to die and meet his maker, to the point where a special sin had to be invented to prevent mass suicides from saving the sinner from his own sinfulness.
The Christian ascetic ideal was a form of penance, for being human.
Without the Jewish choseness to suffer, for god, inverting shame to pride in victim-hood, the Christian had to invent Jesus as his saviour – the one who absolved him of responsibility if he were willing to sacrifice a lifetime, for an eternity.

The modern, the secular version of the same Nihilism, has no such avenues of relief.
His solution is hedonism.
A life spent in narcosis.
A lifetime of hyperbolic overcompensating self-love (narcissism), to cope with the shame for being born weak, and wanting, in a perfectly ordered universe.
Materialism, and science, are the answer.
With them the Modern returns to faith, and commitment, to the universal sacred, now renamed Order, or One, Whole, or by some other marketable title.

Man as God's image exposes god as less than perfect, and results in the mystification of what is nonsensical.
The human mind representing the universal order, exposes the chaos, the incompleteness, the fragmentation, in both... and, yet again, the solution is found in mystification, in allusions of hidden realities, and things-in-themselves, and in absolutes awaiting discovery.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Mon 22 Jun 2015 - 22:43

Narcissism, as a compensation for a secret sense of inferiority, may not display itself in open declarations of self-aggrandizing, hyperbole.
Often it will come out as a quiet sob, and a whisper claiming to deserve better than what it can get.
This is a feminine psychological disposition because women evolved to be genetic filtering agencies and selects stringently and in accordance with markers they've evolved to recognize and appreciate.
Hypergamy it has been called.
So, when males display this disposition it is because of feminization, promoted by the necessities of integrating inferior males into a system dominated by a single alpha, or by an abstraction of a dominant male alpha - the institution, the state.  

In the past, when populations were homogeneous, genetically and memetically, this wasn't much of an issue, but in modern realities and this heterogeneity promoted as a "strength" this is definitely a psychological source of stress.
The natural reaction to this amount of stress is compensation, and/or denial.
Denial is a psychological defensive measure preserving sanity and reducing stress.
In Modern systems denial and narcissism coexist, one feeding into the other.
Narcissism grows in proportion to the stress being compensated for.
The Modern world is characterized by that American type: boisterous, trash talking, loud, repeating self-aggrandizing declarations, bragging, demanding what (s)he deserves as a God given "right", dealing with absolutist finalities, victories, words of false praise etc.  

In nature the path-of-least-resistance is always taken...the lion, no matter how big and strong, will isolate the weakest in the herd.
No plan, really.
What is most readily accessible is harvested.
the weak one falls back, or diverts from the herd's course, exposing itself as weak.
In fish schooling behaviours the weak are pushed to the periphery, where they are most vulnerable to predators.
Man's psychological distress at not being part of a group, or not being appreciated comes from this primal need to push into the centre of the herd where the protection is highest.
The centre of the herd, is the royal position,right in the middle...ironically invulnerability to external threats is accompanied by a increase vulnerability to internal threats, from competitors jostling for that prime position.  
This jostling is a reflection of inorganic states of unity, such as atoms, or river's flowing down mountain slopes.
The fluctuating centre determines the periphery's interaction with patterns outside the congruency's flow.
Water on the extreme sides of the river's flow is absorbed into the soil, or knocked about against the pattern of rocks, on the surface it is heated to the point of changing states and evaporating, on the bottom it is thrust against sand and rocks; the river is pushing towards the centre, cascading into more (inter)actions,a s it flows downwards, pulled by gravity - the earth's mass, towards the core.
The middle of the river, both in width and depth, is the calmest; where the flow is smoothest of all - where balance (harmony) is found.
The periphery is where it is most active, where friction causes a loss in the aggregate flow, where the congruence slowly loses energies.

Back to organic phenomena...

Only species with a sense of time, the ability to project probabilities, based on past (memories, experiences) can take the "path least travelled", the path-of-more-resistance, in the hopes of gaining an advantage over those who will not be able to take such risks or who cannot project with confidence the desirable probabilities.
"Living dangerously" as it has been called.
The motive for doing so can either be sexual, - will explain below - or temporal, as a reaction to the awareness that life is short and one must make strides if one is to achieve the highest pinnacles before the end.

There is one instance where animals, even simple creatures, evolved spontaneous risk-taking to a high: sex....the reproduction instinct...again not consciously understood, but surrendered to.
The peacock with the most impressive burdensome tail has first choice over the female; the elk buck with the biggest unbalancing, to his run, antlers is noticed first; the lion willing to risk life and limb to deal with an adversary passes on his genes; the ram who will risk starvation during the coming winter by denying himself nutrition during the fall rut, will father the most kids.

Sexual madness, frenzy, overriding the survival instinct...can also explain the ends human males will go to in order to display their "manliness".
The more insecure about it they are, the more exaggerated the displays.
Capitalism takes advantage of this fact, by putting young men to work...dreaming of the trophy wife, the perfect mate, those three kids and a two-car garage house in the suburbs...or dreaming of many mates fathering many children, the playa.
It instils in them a sense of entitlement, promotes narcissism to have them believe that they deserve the world, or the supermodel, the extraordinary mate, accolades,  of appreciation.

Blow-back is unavoidable when those inflated expectation fail to materialize.
Sense of entitlement does not diminish, but a hatred of world begins to grow when it has not submitted to those high expectations.
Nihilism, and its spiritual and ideological memes find fertile ground here.

The "bad boy" is the hyperbolic representation of masculinity in decline.
The goal is to revert back to primal sexual behaviours where the male hopes his chances increase.
Anarchy is a male projection, females almost always crave stability nuder a central authority.
The MRA is the other side of this coin - a defeatism, nature despised, and culture victimizing them; a surrender to their feminine traits, or a retardation from maleness back to infancy, or a prepubescent state.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 1 Jul 2015 - 14:28

Between the public and the private face the one who can discern one form the other has the willful option of putting one on, and take the other off, at any time, depending on the circumstances.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Tue 4 Aug 2015 - 15:40

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Acc. to Lunbeck, Narcissism has been Americanized by Lasch, Freud, etc. while its healthy/positive aspects have been neglected - the esteem, 'self-love' and the very ambitiousness of the American drive...




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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Tue 22 Sep 2015 - 21:38

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Tue 22 Sep 2015 - 23:57

Us Greeks, we think alike.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 11 Nov 2015 - 19:55

Between Narcissism and Autism.

Satyr wrote:
Autism is genetic, and narcissism is a redisposition cultivated by environment.
Autism does not necessarily love self.
Autism is restricted by an inabiltiy to think outside the objective of interest.
Narcissism can and refuses.

The two are different.

One is self-invovled in a self-love where nothnig negative is accepted in, the autism does not discriminate...nothing disturbs its focus which is not necessarily interverted.
Nerds are insitutuinoalized autistic....they are incapable to socialize, not because they choose to but because they are focused on their specialty, and have not developed anything else.
Autism does not disrimiante according to self. Or self flattery or self gratificaiton.
It is focused and knows nothnig outside that focus.

Narcissism is internally focused....the autist is externally.
One is unable the other unwilling.

Autists too are increasing the internal.
Still cutting away from the external.


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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Fri 1 Apr 2016 - 10:32

I'm becoming convinced that narcissism must follow, or be built upon, a level of schizophrenia, either inherited as a genetic predisposition or produced by some traumatic event.

I perceive a double schism, one of mind immersing itself in itself, modern separation from past/nature (noumenon freed from its attachment to phenomena, words from deeds), resulting in a partial, or complete, denial of self (past/nature), allowing the image, the reflection of self in the eyes of others, or off flattering reflective surfaces (self-referential) to fill in the emptiness left-over (crisis of identity), and then the schism of the perceived reflection appreciated in compartmentalized unities, one not permitted to soil, to disturb the others, producing this selective sense of self, where the "positive" are brought into focus, and the "negative" fall back into the background, and in time ignored as irrelevant, or as overcome.
The narcissist is driven to hide himself, from him-self - leading to this Modern division of public/private identity, or nature/past separated from present, immediate, (civilized), the latter in perpetual denial of the former.
The necessity to dislodge words, as symbols of the noumenon, from phenomenon, is a matter of survival, for the schizophrenic/narcissist.

The past/nature imposes too many limitations, restriction, upon his will, forcing him to endure the time consuming, stress inducing, process of personal development.
Words are a quicker, easier fix - with a few manipulations, past/nature is corrected, and then all that is required is the far easier process of acting the preferred idea(l) out convincingly.
Finding gullible, weak, impressionable minds to convince is how the narcissistic discovers reflective surfaces to experience his schism, via otherness - validating the image through the belief of other.
Image and appearance should not be confused.
Image is a carefully crafted appearance - manufactured identity, using techniques and technologies, and social behavioural standards (trends, fashion, icons to emulate/imitate etc.).
The narcissist becomes engulfed in his image, he has set-up on his own - surrounded himself with the right reflective surfaces to play the part he wishes to be perceived as, and in their positive appreciation validate his act.

Returning back to before the trauma, if it was caused by an event and is not part of genetic inheritance (perhaps a combination of both, like homosexuality which may be latent as a predisposition, and then can be stimulated by environment to express itself), would be a return to a state before narcissism emerged to cope with world - it is a matter of personal sanity, survival.
The narcissist cannot endure himself, and the cosmos, without this schism, distancing part of self from the disturbing, traumatizing, so as to appreciate what is left as pristine, divine... perfect. His/Her gaze does not dare peek around the mirror, to what may shatter him/her once more.
he remains transfixed in his own image, perceiving cosmos with his peripheral vision, and an upturned nose and a sideways glance, as if it did not apply to him, did not touch him.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 6 Apr 2016 - 15:52

The Narcissist.

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"The designation of the “phallic-narcissistic character” resulted from the necessity of defining character forms which stand between those of the compulsion neurosis and those of hysteria.

The phallic-narcissistic character differs even in external appearance from the compulsive and the hysterical character. The compulsive is predominantly inhibited, reserved, depressive; the hysteric is nervous, agile, fear-ridden, erratic. The typical phallic-narcissistic character, on the other hand, is selfassured, sometimes arrogant, elastic, energetic, often impressive in his bearing. The more neurotic the inner mechanism is, the more obtrusive these modes of behavior are and the more blatantly they are paraded about. In terms of physique, the phallic-narcissistic character is predominantly an athletic type, hardly ever an asthenic type and only in isolated cases a pyknic type (as defined by Kretschmer). His facial features usually exhibit hard and sharp masculine lines. Very often, however, despite his athletic habitus, we find feminine, girlish features (the so-called baby face). Everyday behavior is never cringing, as in the case of the passive-feminine character; it is usually arrogant, either coldly reserved or contemptuously aggressive. And sometimes his behavior is “bristly,” as a representative of this type once put it. The narcissistic element, as opposed to the object-libidinal element, stands out in the attitude toward the object, including the love object, and is always infused with more or less concealed sadistic characteristics.

In everyday life, the phallic-narcissistic character will usually anticipate any impending attack with an attack of his own. The aggression in his character is expressed less in what he does and says than in the way he acts. Particularly, he is felt to be totally aggressive and provocative by those who are not in control of their own aggression. The most pronounced types tend to achieve leading positions in life and are ill suited to subordinate positions among the rank and file. When such is the case, as in the army or similar hierarchal organizations, they compensate for the necessity of having to subordinate themselves by dominating those beneath them. If their vanity is offended, they react with cold disdain, marked ill-humor, or downright aggression.

Their narcissism, as opposed to that of other character types, is expressed not in an infantile but in a blatantly self-confident way, with a flagrant display of superiority and dignity, in spite of the fact that the basis of their nature is no less infantile than that of the other types. A comparison of their structure with the structure, for example, of a compulsive character, yields the clearest insights into the difference between pregenital and phallic-based narcissism. Notwithstanding their overwhelming concern for themselves, they sometimes form strong relationships to people and things of the world. In this respect, they show a close resemblance to the genital character. They differ from the latter, however, in that their actions show a far deeper and broader tendency to be influenced by irrational motives. This type is encountered most frequently among athletes, pilots, military men, and engineers. Aggressive courage is one of the most outstanding traits of their character, just as temporizing caution characterizes the compulsive character and the avoidance of dangerous situations characterizes the passive-feminine character. This courage and pugnacity of the phallic-narcissistic character have, as opposed to the genital character, a compensatory function and also serve to ward off contrary impulses. This is of no special importance as far as their respective achievements are concerned.

The absence of reaction formations against his openly aggressive and sadistic behavior distinguishes the phallic-narcissistic character from the compulsive character. We shall have to demonstrate that this aggressive behavior itself fulfills a function of defense. Because of the free aggression in the relatively unneurotic representatives of this type, social activities are strong, impulsive, energetic, to the point, and usually productive. The more neurotic the character is, the more extravagant and one-sided the activities appear—although they are not necessarily that extravagant and one-sided in actual fact. Between these actions and the creation of paranoic systems lie the many variations of this character type. The behavior of the phallic-narcissistic character differs from that of the compulsive character in its demonstration of greater boldness and less thoroughness with respect to details.

In phallic-narcissistic men, erective potency, as opposed to orgastic potency, is very well developed. Relationships with women are disturbed by the typical derogatory attitude toward the female sex. Nonetheless, the representatives of this character type are looked upon as eminently desirable sexual objects because they reveal all the marks of obvious masculinity in their appearance. Though not a rarity, the phallic-narcissistic character among women is far less frequently found. The neurotic forms are characterized by active homosexuality and clitoral excitability. The genitally healthier forms are characterized by enormous self-confidence that is based on physical vigor or beauty. Almost all forms of active male and female homosexuality, most cases of so-called moral insanity, paranoia, and the related forms of schizophrenia, and, moreover, many cases of erythrophobia and manifestly sadistic male perverts, belong to the phallic-narcissistic character type. Productive women very often fall under this category.

Along with pride in the real or, as the case may be, fantasized phallus, there is a strong phallic aggression. Unconsciously, the penis, in the case of the male of this type, serves less as an instrument of love than as an instrument of aggression, wreaking revenge upon the woman. This accounts for the strong erective-potency characteristic of this type, but also for the relative incapacity for orgastic experience. In the childhood histories of the phallic-narcissistic character, the most severe disappointments in love are found with surprising regularity, disappointments precisely in the heterosexual objects, i.e., in the mother in the case of boys and in the father in the case of girls. And, in fact, these disappointments are experienced at the height of the striving to win the object by phallic exhibition. In the case of the male representatives of this type, the mother is very often the stricter parent, or the father died at an early age or was not married to the mother and was never present.

The inhibition of the further development to genital object-love in childhood because of a severe frustration of genital and exhibitionistic activities at the height of their development, typically by that parent or guardian on whom the genital interests had begun to focus, results in an identification with the genitally desired parent or guardian on a genital level. Boys, for example, relinquish and introject the female object and shift their interests to the father (active homosexuality, because phallic). The mother is retained as a desired object but only with narcissistic attitudes and sadistic impulses of revenge. Again and again such men seek unconsciously to prove to women how potent they are. At the same time, however, the sexual act constitutes a piercing or destroying—closer to the surface, a degrading—of the woman.

In phallic-narcissistic women, genital revenge upon the man (castration) during the sexual act and the attempt to make him or have him appear impotent becomes, in an analogous way, the leading tendency. This is certainly not at variance with the sexual attraction exercised by these strongly erotic characters on the opposite sex. Hence, we often meet with a neurotic-polygamous inability to stick to one’s partner, the active inducing of disappointments, and passive flight from the possibility of being deserted. In other cases, where narcissistic sensitivity disturbs the mechanism of compensation, we find a weak potency, which the individual will not admit. The more disturbed the potency is, the more unstable the general mood usually is. In such cases, there are sudden vacillations from moods of manly self-confidence to moods of deep depression. Capacity for work is likewise severely disturbed.

The phallic-exhibitionistic and sadistic attitude serves simultaneously as a defense against diametrically opposite tendencies. The compulsive character, following genital frustration, regresses to the earlier stage of anality and develops reaction formations here. The phallic-narcissistic character remains at the phallic stage—indeed, he exaggerates its manifestations; but he does this with the intent of protecting himself against a regression to the passive and anal stages. In the course of the analysis of such characters, we meet with more and more intense and concentrated, while at the same time rigidly warded off, anal and passive tendencies. However, these tendencies do not directly constitute the character. Rather, it is mainly determined by the defense against these tendencies in the form of phallic sadism and exhibitionism, a defense proceeding from an ego that has become phallic-narcissistic. There is a marked difference here between the passive-feminine and the phallic-narcissistic character. Whereas the former wards off his aggression and his genital impulses with the help of anal and passive surrender, the latter wards off his anal and passive-homosexual tendencies with the help of phallic aggression. We often hear analysts describe such characters as anal and passive homosexual. However, just as the passive-feminine character cannot be designated as phallic-sadistic because he wards off these impulses, the phallic-narcissistic character cannot be described as anal-passive because he successfully subdues these impulses in himself. The character is determined not by what it wards off but by the way in which it does it and by the instinctual forces which the ego uses for this purpose.

In cases of moral insanity, active homosexuality, and phallic sadism, as well as in sublimated forms of these types, e.g., professional athletes, this defense succeeds well; the warded-off tendencies of passive and anal homosexuality are merely expressed in certain exaggerations.

In cases of paranoia, on the other hand, the warded-off tendencies break through in the form of delusions. Erythrophobia is closely related to the paranoic form of this character; the representation of pathological blushing is often found in the anamnesis of paranoid schizophrenia. A patient suffering from erythrophobia falls victim to a symptomatic breakthrough of the warded-off passive and anal homosexuality inasmuch as he gives up masturbation because of acute castration anxiety. The sexual stasis which builds up weakens the defense function of the ego and affects vasomotor activity. Active homosexuality, phallic sadism, and moral insanity, on the other hand, have a strong ego defense, provided there is effective libido gratification. If, for one reason or another, this gratification is interrupted for any length of time, the passive and anal tendency also breaks through in these cases, either symptomatically or openly.

Among the phallic-narcissistic-sadistic characters, one often finds addicts, especially alcoholics. Not only warded-off homosexuality lies at the root of these addictions, but also another specific trait of this character type, likewise the result of phallic frustration.

In alcoholism, there is also a regression to the oral position. Accordingly, the typical traits of the phallic-narcissistic character are effaced in the alcoholic. In the phallic-narcissistic character, the transitions between the healthy, object-libidinal form on the one hand and the acutely pathological, pregenital forms of addiction and chronic depression on the other hand are far more numerous and diverse than they are in other character types. In psychopathology, much is said about the affinity between the genius and the criminal. However, the type they have in mind is a product neither of the compulsive nor of the hysterical nor of the masochistic character; he derives predominantly from the phallic-narcissistic character. Most of the sex murderers of recent years belong to this character type." [Character Analysis]

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Sat 13 Aug 2016 - 15:10

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"There is a personality disorder known as normopathy. It’s like psychopathy but differs in that rather than substituting an imaginary reality for what they perceive, they substitute a social norm regardless of how that affects their wellbeing or impairs their daily function. They can be driven to emotional breakdown when something prevents them from asserting and preserving that social norm in their environment. What do you think of this? They believe so powerfully in the social consensus, normalization, that it impairs and even cripples their personal resourcefulness, often leaving them to be dependent on external validation."

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"The term disaffectation was coined by noted French psychoanalyst Joyce McDougall as a strictly psychoanalytic term for alexithymia, a neurological condition characterized by severe lack of emotional awareness. McDougall felt that alexithymia had become too strongly classified as a neuroanatomical defect and concretized as an intractable illness leaving little room for a purely psychoanalytic explanation for this phenomenon.

In coining the term McDougall hoped to indicate the behavior of people who had experienced overwhelming emotion that threatened to attack their sense of integrity and identity. Such individuals, unable to repress the ideas linked to emotional pain and equally unable to project these feelings delusively onto representations of other people, simply ejected them from consciousness by "pulverizing all trace of feeling, so that an experience which has caused emotional flooding is not recognized as such and therefore cannot be contemplated". They were not suffering from an inability to experience or express emotion, but from "an inability to contain and reflect over an excess of affective experience."

'Disaffectation' conveys a deliberate double meaning. The Latin prefix dis-, indicates separation or loss and suggests, metaphorically, that certain people are psychologically separated from their emotions and may have "lost" the capacity to be in touch with interior psychic reality. Also included in this prefix is the secondary meaning from the Greek dys- with its implication of illness."

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Hans-Joachim Maaz wrote:
"Normopathy therefore means disturbed social conditions, a social misdevelopment, whose pathology is no longer recognized as it is represented, experienced and defended by the majority.
What everybody does, what is politically desirable, the mainstream of opinion and positions
cannot be wrong. Majority views supersede truth. In psychodynamic terms, normopathy is a
socially accepted reality for collective neurotic denial and defence against emotional injury, which
is present in the majority of the population."

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Sat 20 Aug 2016 - 2:08

Paranoia is a product of increased awareness, finding common ground with ignorance.
The ignorant is paranoid because of the unknown, the hyper-aware of the known, exposing him to probabilities he cannot make preparations for.
Skepticism is what sparks paranoia.
A cynicism towards human expressions of intent.

If skepticism does not exceed a certain level of tolerance, cynicism multiplying its effect, the individual keeps it in check, with no evidence of it externalized.
When the individual's physical and mental resources suffice, indifference towards a potential loss reduces skepticism directed to the particular - the individual can absorb the loss as a lesson learned.
Cynicism flourishes among the vulnerable, and in times of resource stresses.
Paranoia in nature is part of the survival instinct - faced with the unknown the organism sides with the negative possibility, and only with the positive when the alternative has the potential for a higher cost.
Fitness signaling, as the kind that uses self-handicapping, is impressive for this reason.

Paranoia in modern sheltering environment of man-made superfluity, is a remnant of this primal instinct, evolved in more austere, and threatening natural circumstances.
When it prevents the calm and easy distribution of personal energies, by holding them back in stressed reserved, it inhibits social cohesion, and materialism, as the continuous flow of money/code - the life blood of the SuperOrganism, a condition that musty be healed, like one places a stent in an artery.
Cynicism can only prove to be detrimental to the SuperOrganism when it spreads an attitude that prevents the open flow of code/blood.
Self-Handicapping becomes the only acceptable way of signaling fitness, by males.
Risky behavior under controlled circumstances, ostentatious attitudes, bragging, an opening up to any possibility, including self-degradation, because cost/benefit is regulated, and reputation, including sexual promiscuity, only follows you as credit rating, with no specifics, are all part of Modern "health".

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 17 May 2017 - 16:55

Aristocratic Narcissism
To value what is superior only when it is of Self.
Delusion of the nobleman God-king.
Not to be inspired by greatness, or to admire it when it cannot be attained by Self, but to present Self as its representation of the exceptional, deserving the admiration of others, and inspiring others to be like it.

Subjectivization of the standard of evaluating the exceptional.
Part of the nihilistic paradigm.


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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 17 May 2017 - 17:38

Megalomania...from the Greek μέγας, and μανία....
Megas = large, great.
Mania = state of obsession, characterized by inflated fantasies, excess energies.
Hyperbolic desire.
A psychosis where the mind behaves and thinks in a manner exceeding his/her own abilities.
A sense of grandiosity, not supported by reality.
Megalomania is a product of aristocratic narcissism.

In relation to semiotics, the psychosis finds grandiosity in displays using symbols, words, objects or attitudes associated with a socioeconomic, cultural ideal.
Magical word-power is supposed to impress a desirable image upon those who are exposed to the symbols, triggering specific imagery of social, group, dominance, never supported by actions, deeds.
Such displays usually express the essence of inversion characteristic of Nihilism.
An individual over-inflates what he/she feels most insecure about.
The usage of words is meant to avoid the high cost of actions, and their repetition is meant to imprint the desired effect in another's mind.  
some supportive feedback is possible if the psychotic chooses his audience carefully, based on their Impressionability - feebleness of mind, retardation - stunted development; deficiency in individual energies attracted to any surge of external pathos; lostness, an incapacity to give self direction; insecure egos seeking a compensating ego - emasculation, female disposition to be attracted to what is superior to itself, founded no its self-esteem.  

Messianic Complex is a variant. Humility used as a ruse to cover an exaggerated, and unfulfilled ego.
Another variant is the current cult of individuality, expressed as Hyper-Masculinity.
Emasculation forces the individual to compensate by inflating its masculine status with displays adopting social symbols, language, commercial idolatry.
The slave seeks in a singular God, an association to compensate for its own impoverishment.
Words and symbols are used to associate self with a idea(l).

In philosophy, as in politics, and the entertainment industry, it takes the form of being someone's representative - a representation of a representation of a world-view. The embodiment of the idea(l), the idol.
World is engages through the idol as proxy - self declaring itself the lens through which the idol's brilliance is focused - icon of an idol, prophet of a God, Hero of a King.
In extreme cases the individual declares himself the light focused by the idol.
The idol becomes an icon, the god is degraded, becoming a prophet of the individual's Divinity - psychosis has attained an apex.

A masculine psychosis connected with the frenzy of sexual competition - the madness of lust/love.
The desire to dominate, so as to achieve temporal longevity (fitness), is hyper-inflated when it has suffered a deflation.          

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Wed 17 May 2017 - 19:01

Best example (specimen) of the above is Trump.

We see, in him, the disconnect between his self-evaluation, in relation to reality.
Born of unusual privilege he considers himself a self-made man.
Megalomania, with a bit of Messianic Complex, and hyper-masculinity - he thinks he can save the U.S. - he is convinced he deserves the best, he declares himself an ideal others ought to emulate and be inspired by.
Paranoia is part of the conflict of ideal from real.
Psychosis interpreting all contradictions to his judgments, as the work of a conspiracy. It does not even dawn on him that the issue may be himself.
He wills his greatness and when he is proven wrong, it is the work of a competing Will - if not God, then another man.

His entire identity is built no symbols of his greatness.
He is his own icon - product to be consumed.
He is the symbol.

Nihilistic systems produce this type, as they produce social autism, and hyper-masculinity (look at the cRAP scene).
This is the collateral effect of Nihilistic ideology.
With no reality to correct the mind (sheltering), it is prone to extreme under-over-estimations.
Hypo-Hyper-judgments.
With no God, or natural order, all order is interpreted as the creation of a will - an affront upon a fragile ego needing something to validate its maleness.
All order is a product of a Self - from God to Individual organism.

The antithesis of the megalomaniac, is the micro-maniac. If self cannot be great, then no one can be great.
Vengeance of the once megalomaniac, who has been humbled by life, upon those who have not.
His humility, born of consistent, compounding errors in judgment, will become a uni-versal truth.
If not the ONE, then None.

I've defined the two poles of nihilistic psychosis as 'positive' Nihilism and pure or authentic Nihilism.
Sex being a big factor.
Masculine Nihilism versus Feminine Nihilism.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissism & Schizophrenia Fri 9 Jun 2017 - 12:20

Seesawing...

Degenerates routinely allude to complexity when they wish to pretend superiority, or to avoid the obvious, and then use simplicity to ridicule and, again, to avoid the obvious.

One degenerate will claim humans are too complex to deal with as a category, and then another will reduce race and sex to a single trait, like a sexual organ or skin pigmentation.
It's all part of the hypocrisy and hyperinflation/deflation characteristic of post-modernity, and the memetic did-ease = Nihilism.

As always....race, like species, like type, like eidos, indicates a potential, a probability...a pattern.
A pattern has an oscillation arch.
Nature establishes the upper and lower levels of an organic potential.
When it falls beneath the lower it is considered dysfunctional, when it exceeds the upper it is considered exceptional, rare.
All this within the parameters of proportionality determine functionality.
Therefore, to exceed the upper limit may prove to be detrimental to the organism, in regards to tis survival potential.
We can place intelligence into this category.

The average intelligence of a cow is considered retardation in relation to the average in humans.
A human that falls well below the average typical of the species is considered dysfunctional.
A human that exceeds the upper limit may be genius, but not necessarily fit.
Intelligence has proven to be detrimental to well-being.

A race in humans simply exposes the sensual markers of a historical becoming, determining the upper and lower levels in all traits, and not only physical ones.
The history of the races, the types and cultures and their particular qualities bear witness to the fact of their inherited potentials.

If you wish to breed a strong dog, you do not go to a small, weak, fragile breed.
you want to increase the probabilities, so you uses sensual markers and precedent (history, experience) to choose the most likely specimen to give you the traits you desire.
If you wish to bred a fast dog, you do not choose a bulldog, or a chihuahua.
Depending no the type of dog you wish to breed, the eidos, you use precedent, history, experience, and you combine it with an observation and evaluation of the specific dog.

Degenerates, of course, reject physical breeding, eugenics, but practice it, as memetic breeding - socially selecting the ideal type of human: dumb, complacent, narcissistic, hyper-masculine/feminine, ignorant, hedonistic, simple pretending to be complex.
Dysgenics is multiculturalism.

Reducing humanity to a species of mu(t)ts, is to erase the millions of years it took to evolve the specific types, with the specific potentials.
Degenerates wish to disappear in chaos, and uniformity.
Their only method of self-esteem is popularity - selling themselves to as many of their own kind, as possible.
Quantity over Quality.
Their ideas disappear if there are no minds to infect - virus.

The reduction of types will proceed to break apart the categories of male/female, and then of species, as part of the degenerate 'logic".
A pan-psychic cosmic union.
Everything, including inanimate matter, will be converted to a uniformity of all traits.
Therefore, even rocks will be given sentience, and consciousness, using words.

Words, symbols affecting the mind, are the only way they can deal with an unyielding reality, where their delusions are impotent.

Schizophrenia and Narcissism are necessary psychotic conditions for the cultivation of the ideal Modern - the Last Man.
His words must be self-involved, self-flattering, self-supporting, with no external reality to disturb or challenge them.
They must say one thing, think another, and act in a third.
so schizophrenia is a must.
It separates personality from character.
The genetic from the memetic.
The natural Self, as the sum of all that preceded it, from the social self. A role one plays, and in playing it becomes convinced he is it.
How many you convince determines how well you can fool yourself, by fooling others.


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