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PostSubject: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyThu Aug 18, 2022 7:22 am

Two words, often misunderstood and used, by mid-wits, as synonyms.
When a mediocre-mind, i.e., midwit, average intellect, asks:
"What is the meaning of life?" what he is asking is "Why do I exist?" meaning nor "how do I and everything came into being?" but "what should I do with my existence?"
I've associated this with nihilism and how 'nihilism' itself is now part of the nihilistic paradigm, viz., if the world has no god, no purpose, no absolute, no universal morality, then it is 'negative' when, in fact this absence is what makes it 'positive'.

First some definitions:
Meaning = how knowledge inter-relates.
Meaning has to do with understanding and understanding is about finding patterns in the data patterns we call knowledge and perception.
So, meaning is about connecting the dots of awareness to reveal an image, a pattern, usually indicating an objective.
Mid-wits need someone to make the connections for them, and to be given an objective.
The connections will be bolded to indicate strength of connectivity, emphasizing certain connections, shading them as one would an image to give it depth.
Religion was the original authority that made these connections for mid-wits, but with its gradual deterioration as an institution mid-wits came to rely on alternate guides, like ideologues.

Purpose = an objective.
Usually indicated by the previous. Meaning i usually accompanied by a direction, a conspicuous or inconspicuous path, i.e., way, direction.
Mid-wits want to be given an objective....they cannot give themselves one but are entirely dependent no an authority to provide them this objective.
They need a leader, a father...a god....a guru....some kind of icon to reveal for them an idol.
Priests were these mediators, exploiting the mediocre masses, i.e., masses, since the beginning of human culture.
But they lost favour and now are replaced by ideologues, politicians, celebrities, popular icons of fame and fortune - philosopher kings, e.g., Nietzsche, Jesus, Socrates, Hitler, Marx, Buddha etc.

When a mid-wit asks:
"What is the meaning or purpose of life/existence?" he/she is asking to be guided, asking for a leader, a mentor...someone to show him how it all connects, and to take him down the path  towards an objective, or be shown, pointing out an objective, to dedicate his life towards its pursuit.
Herd-Psyhcology.
They follow wherever the herd goes, and the herd goes where the dominant member leads - or the Judas goat takes them.

The absence of a clear and obvious meaning is, for mid-wits, distressing, forcing them to depend on others to connect the dots, with the appropriate emphasis to represent strength of connectivity; the appropriate sequence, represented mathematically: from point 1, draw a light line, or dotted line, or curved line to point 2, and from point 2 draw a bold straight line to point 3...gradually a pattern is revealed in what was a confusion of disconnected dots....
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The intent of the guide can make any connection's, emphasizing any line, creating whatever image they desire....and the mid-wit will think it magical - as if what was in front of him was always conjured out of nothing and nowhere.
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How do we recognize good from bad connections?
Take the resulting image....does it correspond to something in the real world, independent from the mind?
Is the ensuring image a unicorn, a man, or a map of Europe, or is it a map of Avalon in a fantasy realm?
Is the map a precise representation of a geography?
This last point is what objectivity does - it evaluates the subjective image - connecting the data dots of knowledge to produce some kind of understanding - with an objective referent, viz., a map of the environment can be independently verified and evaluated because it refers to a geographical space/time.
The bolding of lines on such a map wold represent value - elevation, distance, terrain, point of interest etc.
The points on the map would be potential objectives - purposes - to be selected by the traveler on his own.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyThu Aug 18, 2022 7:38 am

Hints....
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How many of the dots does the mentor/guide connect for the mid-wit?
If he leaves out a lot of dots then foul play may be suspected.

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When the dots are connected, or even before the connections are finished, the mid-wit will see, what was always in front of him. He will believe that he always knew what he has been shown.

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An true mentor will never tell you what to do with the connections and the image revealed; will never give you an objective, even if the image may imply one.
More precisely, he will give you a map, fill in the elevation, distances, terrain details but he will never tell you where to go.
If the map is of a geography and not a fantasy map in his head, he doesn't need to tell you anything.
Only a charlatan, a priest, will give you a fantasy map, and then tell you how to reach the destinations upon it, because they don't exist in reality, but only in abstraction - shared, perhaps, by all those who share the same fantasies, but referring to nothing outside their collective minds - other than a fantasy map which they drew up, like Tolkien's Middle Earth.

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The dots represent knowledge, i.e., data. They can be entirely fabricated or erroneous.
Understanding is represented by the lines connecting the dots, viz., their sequence, their quantity, length boldness, emphasizing details by reducing them to a symbol of quality.

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Purpose is navigating the dots, following specific paths/lines, towards a destinaiton...an objective.

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Existence with a predetermined purpose would be a totalitarian, authoritarian, enslaving existence.

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Existence is full of meaning.....what is absent is purpose.
Mid-wits that complain that existence is meaningless are really complaining about the absence of a clear, and obvious purpose, or the absence of a reliable, trustworthy, mentor, leader, guide to tell them what to do with their awareness of existence and where to go.
Disillusioned by Abraham's one-god, and with Marx's  map towards paradise/utopia, they feel lost in the 'deserts of the real'.....with no god to choose them and guide them out of it, they wait....for a sign, paranoid that the devil will appear and mislead them....some content to stay on the shifting sands of uncertainty waiting to be buried alive.

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Intelligence = pattern recognition and appreciation.
Those who lack intelligence must negate all patterns as being equally misleading.
They compensate for their lack by refusing all guides, categorizing them all as charlatans - having been tricked so many times that they've lost trust....of their own judgements - projected as an accusation.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyThu Aug 18, 2022 8:16 am

How does judgment evolve if all judgements are equally valid?
Is there no wrong judgement, no bad judgment?
Are all judgements equal?
Is there no advantage to having the ability to make effective choices based on more precise judgements?
Then how was intelligence naturally selected, or was it created by a divine agency? If so, then why the ruse?

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Good/Bad does not refer to a cultural ideal, it refers to how this cultural ideal relates to the world, i.e., natural order.
Good = predominately positive consequences - relative to the objective/ideal.
Bad = predominately negative consequences - relative to the objective/ideal.

In Abrahamism this is converted to good/evil, corresponding to god/Satan, given that the objective is unattainable and so failure is a guaranteed. Some explanation had to be invented to explain why the cognitive map, connecting the dots, refers to nothing in reality, to no geography, but in fact contradicts geography.

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Free-Will consists in the ability to learn adjusting one's judgements in relation to the consequences.
Since all is in flux and the consequences are always unpredictable, to a greater or lesser degree, this ability to adapt/.adjust, and change one's judgments, manifested through different choices, this ability must remain flexible.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptySun Aug 21, 2022 6:14 pm

Why did you post this video? Who is wasting their life?

Did you watch it?

Consider what is said in the video:

"Everyone carries a shadow, and the less it is embodied in the individuals conscious life, the blacker and denser it is. One way to become conscious of the shadow is to observe the weaknesses flaws and insecurities of those around us. For not only do most of us repress similar character traits but we also tend to project elements of our shadow on to other people. If therefore we pay attention to which character traits of those around us bother us we may also gain a glimpse of our own shadow."

It seems to be saying that what you accuse others of may be what you have repressed in yourself... and this may be the cause of your own suffering. It is necessary to integrate these aspects of your shadow into your conscious self to improve and move forward in life.
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptySun Aug 21, 2022 6:28 pm

Silas wrote:
Why did you post this video?

Because its a good philosophical thought provoking video relevant to the thread subject, and this is a philosophy forum.

Quote :
Who is wasting their life?

Is there supposed to be someone in particular its referencing? Is that what the video was about, a particular person, or a discussion on a subject? Are you a child?

Quote :
Did you watch it?

You must be asking yourself this question.

Is that one excerpt all you got out of it? You are indeed a very dull mind. But i can see you think very highly about yourself, humbly so, of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyTue Aug 23, 2022 6:10 pm

One for Kvasir.

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyTue Aug 23, 2022 6:45 pm

And you?
What depicts you in film?

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PostSubject: Re: Purpose & Meaning Purpose & Meaning EmptyTue Aug 23, 2022 7:07 pm

You feed of this don't you? Since I'm not a ballet dancer nor a member of an underground fight club probably the shooter.
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