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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:48 pm

The Tea party attempts to associate itself with the founding fathers. The problem is that our founding fathers went up against a power structure that could kill them. The Tea Party, on the other hand, plays lip service to the present Empire by protecting them from paying more taxes.

Ultimately, the real function of the Tea Party is the equivalent of me going up to my boss and saying:

You know what? I've put up with it long enough. And I will not rest until your salary is doubled.

Dance around it all you want, guys. Articulate all you want. But a kiss ass is a kiss ass anyway you look at it.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:21 pm

You ever notice how Satyr tends to never stay in one place, then acts as if his elusiveness is validation of his superiority to us?

He reminds me of a line out of Thus Spake Zarathustra about poets:

They muddy their waters and think of themselves as having depth.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:25 pm

I mean think about it:

no matter what you say about him, it will always be wrong.

That is, unless you're talking like a disciple.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:26 pm

Then he'll insult you just to establish his power over you.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:41 am

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And this seems a little hypocritical given the underlying structures of evolutionary psychology you tend to refer to. Do you really think these things are right on the surface?
That's why I mine for my insights.
The "hypocritical" now appears your new baby-diaper.
I bet it is comforting to shit in your pants and know that the diaper will hide some of the stench before mommy comes to clean you all up. then all the world must forget you took a dump in your pants.

I think any value judgment coming form a mind so void of critical thinking and detached reasoning should be taken lightly and with knowing tolerance.

I know you must know everything I do, and more....but it seems like whatever you do know has resulted in an emotional reaction, due to personal weakness and cowardice.
Intelligence is one thing, but if it is not accompanied by some courage and detachment, resulting in some objectivity, then it turns into another womanly screech for justice and fairness.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:52 pm

d63tark wrote:
Then he'll insult you just to establish his power over you.
Has Satyr power over you... or do you still feel not insulted enough?
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:02 pm

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Then he'll insult you just to establish his power over you.
Maybe a Liberal Jewish boy like you prefers to have the cheek turned when you assault or when you try to pull what is above you down to your level...to equalize it with your retardation, thinking that this leveling should be taken as a flattering gesture on your part, but I don't think I can accommodate you on this.
Do you think boy, that if as bum tells you you're a swell guy' and no different than he is that he is offering you something to be proud of?

You are dull and stupid and that is why ILovePhilosophy is the place for you.
But if you choose to hang around then please do so without expecting to be taken seriously after one of your drunken binges or when you sober up thinking that you've made a brilliant point or that you've "challenged me" forcing me to "grow".

You, boy, are an average Progressive, Liberal, nit-wit.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:54 am

d63tark wrote:
You ever notice how Satyr tends to never stay in one place, then acts as if his elusiveness is validation of his superiority to us?

He reminds me of a line out of Thus Spake Zarathustra about poets:

They muddy their waters and think of themselves as having depth.

But try be circumspect:
Mind confesses itself
In disclosing meaning;
And thus a man himself
Is gleaned in gleaning;
Limits errors reflect.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:40 pm

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From what I gather, Satyr is neither an ascetic, nor a hedonist.

He practices and preaches moderation, or, a low quantity of high quality food, drink, etc.

In addition, I think he prefers a western style family (1-3 children, well looked after) to an eastern style family (4+ children, poorly looked after), or to the mating gorilla mating habits of the Joker, or the mating habits of a bonobo (group sex/marriage) . For Satyr, moderation or quality over quantity is a more, fit (in the Darwinian sense), healthier lifestyle.

He does not puruse, nor advocate abundance, affluence, debauchery, and he does not pursue, nor advocate scarcity, austerity, poverity (except on occassion, to keep one's mind, body and soul fit, prepared, strong). Satyr avoids the feminine, absolute completion on the one hand, and the masculine, absolute negation on the other. He avoids absolutes, extremes. He is not interested in excessive fame, fortune, wealth and power, he sees this as an addiction, a form of dependency, and he sees living in squalor as a form of weakness. Satyr avoids death from decadence, and atrophy, as much as he avoids death from deprivation.

I would describe Satyr as a social darwinist, and an antisocial darwinist. Once again, his moderation, and quality over quanity principles can be applied to social relations. If we associate and identify with just anyone, what does that say about us? For Satyr, I think he prefers a small amount of highly selective friendships to a large amount of lowly selective friendships. He prefers to be around people who he can genuinely, intellectually and morally relate to. He probably forms very strong bonds with the people he does let into his, rather exclusive, small circle, a circle based on shared gender, genes, but perhaps more importantly on memes. I can't picture him as an internationalist, a globalist, or an egalitarian. I think his ideal state would be, a small, hierarchical one, of likeminded, and likebodied people inhabiting the inner circle, and those with alien, or inferior genes and memes inhabiting the outer circle.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:05 pm

In terms of metaphysics and epistemology, for Satyr, philosophy and science ought to deal with the phenomenal world of experience, rather than with the conjecture, imaginings and speculation of crackpots who hate the world, and who are unfit to survive in it. They would seek to abandon the world, like the Jesus or the Buddha, or seek to radically alter it. Satyr is not a transhumanist, for him, transhumanism is just as much a rejection of the world as Christianity or Buddhism, Satyr wants to preserve the human life and nature as is, but he recognizes human life, possessing intellect and lacking physicality, must occassionally alter itself and it's environment to an extent. He is a conservative first and foremost, but I think he recognizes the need for some alterations and enhancements.

He's an empiricst, a materialist (in the metaphysical sense), a reductionist, and a determinist (though, I think he believes the greater portion of the universe is a void, chaos, or an incomprehensible, imperceptible order, he belives the laws of chance suggest order would occasionally form out of nothingness, he doesn't believe God, teleology, or objective values, or that the universe has objective meaning, or purpose), who believes the universe is a relativistic, dynamic flux.

He's not an antiphilosopher, or antimetaphysician, he utilizes static abstractions, absolutes and categories to his advantage, but bases them on the world, they are nothing in and of themselves, for Satyr, existence is kinetic, not potential, existence is interactivity.

He does not believe the subject can exist apart from the object, when the object passes away, the subject passes away, subjects apart from objects, ghosts or spirits, cannot be percieved, at best, they are purely hypothetical. He is a monist.

Well, I think that about sums him up.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:54 pm

Pretty much.
I also like the color blue, the darker kind, and black.
I really love Asian cuisine, particularly Thai, Japaneses and Cantonese.
I prefer red wines to white, and of those I like the dryer variations.
I'm a carbohydrate freak: rice, potatoes, pasta.
I would rather eat potatoes roasted well, than meat.
I love stir-fries.
I do have sweets but I can't say that I am fanatical about them. Chocolate leaves me indifferent....I like it but I can go for months without having it.. Sort of like sex.

I love female ass....I don't even have to touch it or fuck it....just looking at it suffices.
I prefer black hair to blonde.
I have no interest in cars. I like motorcycles. But the climate here does not allow it.
But in automobiles I prefer jeeps: rugged, all-purpose, strong. Something to get muddy and scratch-up without giving a shit.

I like small homes, rather than large impersonal houses.

I like cool sunny days...heat bothers me. I can't think in it.
Rain is fine, if it is not freezing. I can walk for hours in it, or watch it from my window.
I like forests, hiking up mountain slopes, to swimming and lying around on a sandy beach.
I love watching rivers flow or the ocean crash against rocks.

I don't like traveling, so much, but I like being there. The travel inhibits me from going places to be.
I like intimate get-togethers to large parties. One-on-one or a small select group of people I can eat and drink around a table with while discussing and joking and just hanging out, with no pretenses or motives.

I like music when it is sad and deep. I like singing, particular along with others who share in my melancholia and have found in a tune the rhythm or the lyrics that express their inner longing.

I despise braggarts, show-offs and liars who believe their own lies. Stupidity drives me nuts. It's worthless, a dead-end....there's no place to go with it except into silliness, sarcasm and boyish taunting.
I hate dependent people who cannot do anything without someone there or someone holding their hand.
I do not like being the center of attention although I often make myself one with my quips or interventions when some moron spills out a pile of vomit which insults my aesthetics.
I despise rudeness and there is nothing more rude and crude than stupidity.
It's innocent, or unaware, but this is no excuse.

Nothing more to say.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:06 pm

Interesting, so now we get a little the personal in addition to the philosophical.

When people share something about themselves, it often elicits others to do the same.

I like dark blue and black also, my favourite color is blurple (blue/purple).

I prefer Greek and Italian food.

Used to be into carbs, switched over to meat and veg for health reasons (better for my sinusitis).

I like beer.. but not so much anymore.

I like female feet, nothing better than burying my face in some soft soles.
I'm a little asexual, I too can go for long periods without sex, and I find this makes sex all the more satisfying when I do have it. I don't like most women, can't stand them, although recently a co worker of mine has changed my mind. There are exceptions to the rule.. unfortunately she has a boy friend.

I'm lazy, I only work as much as I have to, I keep my expenditures to a bare minimum. I live in a one bedroom basement suite. The only thing I put a lot of effort into, is my intellectual pursuits (philosophy, science, the occult, etc), philosophy being primary. My only goal is to be a great thinker and writer, not necessarily great in the eyes of others, but in my own eyes. Also, maybe be a cult leader of some kind, or a survivalist.

There's not really much to me, I can be defined more by absence of interests than presence of interests. I take pleasure in few activities. I used to enjoy video games, movies and music, but not so much anymore, I got bored of them.

I loathe our consumerist, hedonistic, materialistic, dandy socialite society, it makes me sick to my stomach, not because I envy it, I don't think, I am able, not willing, but because of how shallow, how superficial it is.. and how unhealthy it is, for the body and the mind.

I too like a small quantity of high quality things, I take my friendships seriously, I don't like large groups either, I eat well, I drink well.

I used to like playing chess, checkers, and cards, I used to gamble, but I can't really afford to anymore, it's stupid anyway.

I think I'd describe myself as a bit schizoid.

I am my own country, my own culture, either I will go it alone, or people will follow me, I refuse to be lead.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:47 pm

Thanks for the insight.

I hope others contribute their own.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:54 am

I also prefer darker colours, particularly the contrast of navy blue with dark green.

My favourite taste is tangy and sweet/sour. Vinegar, anything pickled, etc.
When I was a kid, I liked to suck on coins.

Otherwise, I like pastry. Quiche is great.

Mostly, I drink beer and whisky. Recently I've been trying out some red wine and liking it more than I used to.
I prefer darker/sweeter beers.

I've got a thing for redheads.
And I like the upper-thigh. The hip area in general, really.
Like the movement. A nice way of walking or sitting.
And the crease that forms along the top of the inner-thigh.

I'm lazy too, and I procrastinate like nobody's business.

I can be fairly unreliable and frivolous.

I hate people who assume an opinion because of its social utility, or because it's the "smart person" opinion, and not because of conviction. That's the reason for my name: when I felt that someone was treating opinions as fashion accessories, my immediate reaction was to take up sides with the opposition. Many moons ago, I "argued" for creationism against evolution solely out of spite.

I tend more towards paranoia and obsessive-compulsiveness. I had a schizophrenic aunt to boot.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:47 pm

Oh, you all got to know each other while I was away. How quaint.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:27 pm

Satyr wrote:
Excellent.

The last part is a bit of an oversimplification.
i see value in blood and bloodlines and blood ties, but I also recognize that certain qualities appear within all heritages.
I wish to unite them under one banner with a clear motive and a clear division of loyalties.

Nationalism is a earthly quality, of the mother earth. I wish to be supranational.
Genes give birth to memes and so memes can be adopted, they can impregnate alien cultures and turn them into an honorary genetic bloodline.

The ancient Greeks separated men into Hellenes and Barbarians.
To be Greek, although tied to the geography and the family trees, was also accessible via paidiea: education.  
One who thinks Greek, and speaks Greek and adheres the Greek attitude, is Greek...he would does not, and this includes modern day Greeks, or so called Greeks, is a Barbarian.  

Nietzsche, Evola, were quintessentially Greek. The former went so far as to openly show his admiration and preference.
Do not forget who his biggest influence was: Heraclitus.  

Hm, that is the connote/prefix, "supra," which I formulated/fabricated into the ontogenetics of my own bio-spiritual epistemological impetus: e.g., Supranationalist and Supra-Aryanist.
When offering the notion of my world conception I yield it as, Empirical-Idealism: Supranationalism, or Aryanist-Supranationalism.

Have only heard "supra" twice elsewhere -- namely, from Rudolf Steiner, where I first starting conceiving of the idea, and some guy on the internet -- and make that three herein.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:43 pm

I use it to differentiate from super-natural, usually associated with what is above - usually implying a disconnect, or an alternate, as in 'supernatural' as opposed to 'natural' - and supra as that which emerges from within, and is not other than what it emerges from.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:02 pm

Satyr wrote:
Excellent.

The last part is a bit of an oversimplification.
i see value in blood and bloodlines and blood ties, but I also recognize that certain qualities appear within all heritages.
I wish to unite them under one banner with a clear motive and a clear division of loyalties.

Nationalism is a earthly quality, of the mother earth. I wish to be supranational.
Genes give birth to memes and so memes can be adopted, they can impregnate alien cultures and turn them into an honorary genetic bloodline.

The ancient Greeks separated men into Hellenes and Barbarians.
To be Greek, although tied to the geography and the family trees, was also accessible via paidiea: education.  
One who thinks Greek, and speaks Greek and adheres the Greek attitude, is Greek...he would does not, and this includes modern day Greeks, or so called Greeks, is a Barbarian.  

Nietzsche, Evola, were quintessentially Greek. The former went so far as to openly show his admiration and preference.
Do not forget who his biggest influence was: Heraclitus.  

Ontogenetics is contextual and as such genes do not determine or beget anything as they are but vehicles (of the spirit and personality/biography), just as the brain is the organ/vehicle of the mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:09 pm

Genes pass-on potentials - experiences/knowledge/data.
Genes evolve within environments, and within these environments they are encoded.
Each meme emerging within a particular population is rooted in the past, where the genes emerged, and they carry this memory in the code (language).

I wish to re-affirm in a culture that denies the relevance of genes and in how they manifest; I reaffirm the continuance.
I'm a (re)attacher of concepts to the world - the noumennon to the phenomenon; the word to the act.

I do not invent this stuff, I re-call it, for all those deaf, dumb and blind ones, hoping one of them might go further.

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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:47 pm

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Genes pass-on potentials - experiences/knowledge/data.
Genes evolve within environments, and within these environments they are encoded.
Each meme emerging within a particular population is rooted in the past, where the genes emerged, and they carry this memory in the code (language).

I wish to re-affirm in a culture that denies the relevance of genes and in how they manifest; I reaffirm the continuance.
I'm a (re)attacher of concepts to the world - the noumennon to the phenomenon; the word to the act.

I do not invent this stuff, I re-call it, for all those deaf, dumb and blind ones, hoping one of them might go further.

Heredity is very real, but I should like to establish that a culture which treats genes (the world of phenomena) as the radix instead of as the manifestation, expression or form of the underlying ideal/idea/archetype/driving force/creative principle is self-complacent in delusion or modern maya or illusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Who is Satyr? Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:54 pm

The phenomenon is the manifestation of the past - how we perceive it - interpret it - and how much of it we perceive, is also determined in the past, through trial and error - natural selection.

Each mistake a death...but today mistakes are protected if they do not challenge the provider.

The modern maya is the word detached from the act - the noumenon referring not to a phenomenon but back to another noumenon.

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