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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:31 am

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d63: My god! I'm dealing with the intellectual equivilent of brownshirt fascist thugs.

I clearly need to find something else to do with myself.
This sentence is too emotional and personal for philosophy. Where is your counterargument? I mean, if you merely wanted to increase minimum wage a little, because you think the capitalists are being unfair, then I wouldn't take issue, although, I would urge you to fight back without the assistance of government, but giving people money for nothing, or next to nothing and allowing them to procreate? if you can't see the absurdity in that then you are mentally deficient.

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Well then why even be here, Eyes? I mean the same could be said for philosophy and all products of the intellect.

My point is that it's a mixed package that we're pretty much stuck with, and the only way out is through.
You confuse artifice with evil and that is your error. Artifice, from culture to tools, machines and computers, is our primary means of survival, it is what separates us from them. Humankind cannot continue to exist without it, as we're extraordinarily instinctively and physically disabled. The key is balance. The world has become too artificial in some respects. Too many of our needs and particularly our wants are being satisfied. We have to cut the fat, sort to speak, the physical, emotional and social fat must be, cut. Necessity is the mother of good inventions, luxury of evil ones. Your communism is a symptom of decadence and decline. What we need now is less.. less is more. Less quantity more quality. Government should intervene less, and when it does intervene, it should kill off the stupid and the weak. The more humans there are, the less precious they are. Allow me to introduce you to a new ideology. I call it green fascism. Government shouldn't do much, but when it does something, it should cull. Less humans and less production/consumption, more quality humans and more quality production/consumption.

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And one problem with your reasoning: since the spider developed the web well before humans developed tables, how many years did it actually take to develop the table? You're math is wrong.
I think Satyr did an excellent of explaining the difference between nature and artifice.

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Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.

This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
That's what they said about the Roman empire. Civilizations tends to go through 4 stages. The first stage- it struggles with the elements for survival. It barely has enough technology to subsist (Winter/dark ages). Then, technology, social and physical, increases and there's a population boom (Spring). Man reaches a climax, the creativity and ingenuity present in spring, abandons him, as he grows fatter (Summer/light ages). Finally, his civilization begins to unravel, his technology has increased to the point where it only serves his vanity and his excesses. In spring and early summer, his inventions were born of practical necessity, and he was appreciative of the sacrifices and improvements his ancestors made, during late summer and fall, he loses his humility and respect, he begins to think of himself as immortal and omnipotent. As fall proceeds, and he starts to realize that he blew it, he turns to mindless hedonism, sensing the end is nigh, and crazed spiritual cults that promise a release and an escape from terrors he is too childish, weak and effete to cope with, unlike his hardened ancestors. A great culling shall occur, whether natural, artificial or a combination thereof, it matters not, for nothing can save the vast majority of humans now. Then, the cycle repeats itself, until man gets it right, or he annihilates himself.

Civilization more/less as a whole, has collapsed 2 times before. The 1st dark age was approximately 1200- 800 bc, the 2nd 400- 800 ad. I think we may be approaching the 3rd, they seem to occur every 1600 - 2200 years.

Civilization has limits. Efficiency can extend limits, but not indefinitely. While we were gorging ourselves, and making sure everyone was fed, food and resources were running out. Man will have to deal with this predicament with a hangover.

At a certain point and in certain ways, civilization is and becomes more like a drug than a food.. more like a toxin than nourishment.

The Jews and communists are like flies.. like cancer. Just as there is a link between obesity and cancer, Jews and communists come to feed off the hard work, wealth and power of others, namely Europeans and Americans.

Then again.. why do anything? We need to do more, we need to do more, I hear them say. Was it not the doing that got us into this mess in the 1st place? As Satyr indicates, activity comes from need, and need is a kind of weakness. Premodern civilization and religion was born of need, postmodern civilization and religion was born of want, or illusory need.. vanity, hubris.

again, this is not really true. capitalism is also about greed and exploitation. the reason communism doesn't work yet is because of the tendency towards greed and overconsumption. it's also not true there are not enough resources, it's just that people tend to overconsume. the earth produces an surplus for everyone actually. again, humans don't manage it well because of this tendency or weakness toward greed and overconsumption. this was what is not getting 'right'. also, the 'hardened' ancestors were not without their faults or with the same tendencies, they just go from one phase to the next.

the jews are your own race and communists were not bothering you. instead, it was your people going around exploiting other countries for their resources for your overconsumption and greed. it's like how those corporations don't usually benefit or even fairly compensate but rape those countries and people WHILE the price is your people get fat, and have a greater link between obesity and cancer. ya see, you keep blaming only others but like a typical asshole and for blind ego posterity, delusionally project all the blame and faults onto others. now, this greed is a weakness in any human and it's easy to proliferate and spread but that's another topic.

that said, china is doing something right whereas the west just exploited the earth and others like rabid psycopaths. now, if china makes the same mistake, it will just be the same shit repeating itself. ya see, it's really unproductive to only focus on win/lose scenarios when it can be a win/win. it's just motivated by extreme fear as well as rabid selfishness/greed or ego posterity. unfortunately, people learn from going through shit and it takes them a long time to fix the most root problem, which is themselves. it doesn't matter what type of physical or mental abillity you have if one is always hampered or corrupted by one's vices as there will always be mismanagement. this is one of the greatest challenges of nature and of humanity towards making a truly better change. that is something we all need to work on. it's okay to learn from eachother, it just takes humility to do it. where one is weak, another may be stronger and vice versa.

eyes, you really need to stfu unless you know what you are talking about. to say that others are a cancer that feed off the wealth of the west is assinine and heinous. ironicly, the ones that do are closer to your race or culture such as hispanics or middle-easterners with fundamental religions. asians generally give back to the society they are in or try to be good citizens. they are not the cause of your fuking problems, no way and no how, so you need to stop blaming everyone else. as a matter of fact, there is very little waste in their societies usually and they appreciate what they have. you could learn something from them, asshole fuking twat. also, there is nothing wrong with others improving themselves or learning from you to do so. this is exactly the superior way knowledge should be implemented. the problem will be whether they are overcome with greed and destruction as well. it's your mismanagement and you bred that shit because of your own greed. you brought those africans to the americas to exploit/use them unfairly as well for your decadence and if they are decadent, it's just their adaptation to your culture. you swung from one wrong extreme to another with the same outcome of course. you rape other countries for your decadence leaving those people worse for wear. now with all the shit, there is also work towards improvement and positive change. it just takes time but the positive is balance of eventual power so that people cannot fall into decadence or exploit eachother as much and are forced to be more sane and use resources wisely. the real problem of humanity has always been immaturity no matter what race. isn't it obvious? we want to believe that cleverness in innovation or ability is all it takes to make life worthwhile and that's still not the case.

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Speaking to a German newspaper, Mr Kagame - seen in the West as one of Africa's more dynamic leaders - was as critical of the West as he was generous in praise of China.

"The Chinese bring what Africa needs: investment and money for governments and companies," he told business newspaper Handelsblatt.

"China is investing in infrastructure and building roads," he said, adding that European and American involvement "has not brought Africa forward".

"Western firms have to a large extent polluted Africa and they are still doing it," Mr Kagame said.

Although Rwanda received substantial international aid in the wake of the 1994 genocide, which left more than 800,000 dead, Mr Kagame told Handelsblatt that relations based more on trade than aid were now the most useful to Africa.

"I would prefer the Western world to invest in Africa rather than handing out development aid," he said.

"There is a need for help - but it should be implemented in such a way as to enable trade and build up companies."

The Rwandan leader also said that high trade tariffs prevented African producers from gaining equitable access to global markets.

"It would help Africa much more if industrialised countries allowed us the same trade rights as they give to each other," Mr Kagame said.


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again, this is not really true. capitalism is also about greed and exploitation. the reason communism doesn't work yet is because of the tendency towards greed and overconsumption. it's also not true there are not enough resources, it's just that people tend to overconsume. the earth produces an surplus for everyone actually. again, humans don't manage it well because of this tendency or weakness toward greed and overconsumption. this was what is not getting 'right'. also, the 'hardened' ancestors were not without their faults or with the same tendencies, they just go from one phase to the next.
Capitalism is about fairness, what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. Capitalism is fair and free exchanges between humans. I believe it was crony capitalism that got us into this mess (aka Judeo-Capitalism or monetarism).

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the jews are your own race

The Jews are our own race the way the royal family is our own race. Years of inbreeding and acquiring their wealth through nefarious means has made them corrupt.

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and communists were not bothering you.
The Jews have been in control of our country, though central banking (see the federal reserve), for quite some time. They're gaining more and more control everyday.

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instead, it was your people going around exploiting other countries for their resources for your overconsumption and greed. it's like how those corporations don't usually benefit or even fairly compensate but rape those countries and people WHILE the price is your people get fat, and have a greater link between obesity and cancer. ya see, you keep blaming only others but like a typical asshole and for blind ego posterity, delusionally project all the blame and faults onto others. now, this greed is a weakness in any human and it's easy to proliferate and spread but that's another topic.
It is good to exploit nature to an extent, and many blacks and natives were and still are a part of nature. We have overextended, and now it is time to return to a more, moderate way of life. Ron Paul, nationalism and green capitalism (not monetarism or corporatism) will help us get there.

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eyes, you really need to stfu unless you know what you are talking about. to say that others are a cancer that feed off the wealth of the west is assinine and heinous. ironicly, the ones that do are closer to your race or culture such as hispanics or middle-easterners with fundamental religions. asians generally give back to the society they are in or try to be good citizens. they are not the cause of your fuking problems, no way and no how, so you need to stop blaming everyone else. as a matter of fact, there is very little waste in their societies usually and they appreciate what they have. you could learn something from them, asshole fuking twat. also, there is nothing wrong with others improving themselves or learning from you to do so. this is exactly the superior way knowledge should be implemented. the problem will be whether they are overcome with greed and destruction as well. it's your mismanagement and you bred that shit because of your own greed. you brought those africans to the americas to exploit/use them unfairly as well for your decadence and if they are decadent, it's just their adaptation to your culture. you swung from one wrong extreme to another with the same outcome of course. you rape other countries for your decadence leaving those people worse for wear. now with all the shit, there is also work towards improvement and positive change. it just takes time but the positive is balance of eventual power so that people cannot fall into decadence or exploit eachother as much and are forced to be more sane and use resources wisely. the real problem of humanity has always been immaturity no matter what race. isn't it obvious? we want to believe that cleverness in innovation or ability is all it takes to make life worthwhile and that's still not the case.
I have no problem with Chinamen.

Yes, it takes wisdom too.
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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:19 am

lol, delusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:56 pm

One of the smartest niggers I've come across.





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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:55 pm

The Attention Economy:

"Goldhaber (1997) argues that the economic laws of the Internet world are different from those of the material world. Specifically, information is plentiful on the Internet, but attention is scarce. He argues that since attention is scarce, the ability to gain attention is a form of power in that the person who has attracted attention can then lead people to perform or act in a certain way. ...As the blog numbers increase, so too does the difficulty in attracting attention. ...As Goldhaber (1997) theorized, given a plethora of information, people must come up with ways to gain the attention of the public and one way to do this is to offer something new. He argues that whereas the material or Fordist economy is based on the easy replication of items, the attention economy demands individualism and originality. Thus, the successful member of an attention economy is the individual or company who shuns repetition and duplication. In the world of blogging, you will not be read if you are not offering your readers something new or interesting.
I suggest that there are two ways in which people respond to this demand for originality within the blogosphere. They overshare as a way to assert their individualism, or they strive to say something that will allow their readers to see the world in a new way. ...In the drive for attention, the media culture pushes into private space and individuals push the trivial and intimate aspects of their lives into the public sphere. This phenomenon is one aspect of what Agger (2004) described as the breakdown of boundaries between public and private space as well as the “dematerialization” of the line between text and the world."

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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:41 am

why do you call thomas sowell a "nigger" satyr?
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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:52 am

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why do you call thomas sowell a "nigger" satyr?

What should he be called?

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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:48 am

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why do you call thomas sowell a "nigger" satyr?
Perhaps it was a bit harsh.
His higher intelligence makes him less than a nigger.

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PostSubject: Re: Digital Narratives Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:42 pm

One of his books attempts to explain black aggressive behaviour and ghetto mentality as a result and mimesis of white englanders into the US. ...

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