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PostSubject: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:51 am

Evidence of how technology is part of the levelling of man, allowing even the participation of animals in human social networks, and how this will inevitably be used as yet more ammunition by deluded liberals that primates (sub-races) are equally as capable as us (the description of the psychological nature of orangutangs below could equally be a description of blacks, so well does it accord with their behavior and interests):

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Orangutans 'could video chat' between zoos via iPads

Mr Zimmerman, from the charity US-based charity Orangutan Outreach, said he had wanted to give the device to the animals ever since it was launched back in January 2010.

The animals have, Mr Zimmerman said, been captivated by watching television on the devices, particularly when it featured other orangutans, and even more so when they saw faces they recognised.

"They love moving images. They love bright things. They like to be entertained! "They love new things, so one of the first things we're going to do to incorporate that is make sure the facilities have wi-fi capabilities so that the orangutans can actually have access to unlimited information - of course with the keepers guiding them."

"Orangutans love looking at each other," said Mr Zimmerman, adding that one of the apes, 31-year-old MJ, is a fan of David Attenborough programmes. "The orangutans loved seeing videos of themselves - so there is a little vanity going on - and they like seeing videos of the orangutans who are in the other end of the enclosure.

They are looking into building a re-enforced iPad suitable for being thrown around, or perhaps fixing the device to a wall so it could in turn be hooked to a large projector viewable by zoo visitors. In addition to this, Mr Zimmerman said there were developers keen to put together apps for the orangutans using design techniques similar to those adopted in software aimed at young children.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16354093
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:30 pm

like an asshole, you are begrudging orangutans some harmless entertainment?

wtf is wrong with orangutans loving moving images or bright colors? uh, nothing??

also, what is wrong with orangutans? uh, nothing??

people have come up with idiotic things like hollywood and making moving pictures so they can watch themselves in often made-up situations. how freaky is that? even freakier is they have these award shows where they dress up and pat eachother on the back for being good 'actors' and give eachother miniature statues. lmao

well, people need something to entertain them on this ball of rock when they aren't sleeping, eating, shitting or fucking? right?

you stupid idiot, complaining about the most stupid shit. your jealousy towards orangutans is pathetic.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:50 pm

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What a miserable existence it must be to not be able to read a single article without finding fuel to feed your paranoia.
Let's look at the world this way, and only this way, because... because.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:56 pm

On a side comment. I like the amazement of researchers and readers when they find that animals, specially birds, aren't as dumb as they thought they were. They assume the most rudimentary thinking systems, because they just don't know it, only to have their pre conceptions shattered by simple observation.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:10 pm

I would say that birds and bird-brains, are equal.

I can't imagine how evolution happens when genetic isolation and the environment forcing physical, but not mental, mutations is denied.

We'll have to assume that intelligence evolves magically or that humans, for some reason, are excluded from the natural selection rules.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:37 am

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On a side comment. I like the amazement of researchers and readers when they find that animals, specially birds, aren't as dumb as they thought they were. They assume the most rudimentary thinking systems, because they just don't know it, only to have their pre conceptions shattered by simple observation.
Yet if experiments demonstrate that primates are more intelligent than we thought they were, though still only on a rudimentary level, then it may equally be true that some hominid groups/races are less intelligent than we thought they were.

But for some strange reason there seems to be no will to investigate this latter possibility.

Yet still some idiots on here try to convince us that science is value free and unaffected by social and economic forces.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:20 pm

And you don't see how that's entirely ... not the same at all.
What you want to see is different intelligence levels between two populations of orangutans.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:54 am

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And you don't see how that's entirely ... not the same at all.
What you want to see is different intelligence levels between two populations of orangutans.
Do these population groups look different, have different biologies, right down to their cells and different brain morphologies?

It is intelligence that separates man from animal, and hence our humanity is a property determined primarily by the size, shape and structure of the brain. In sub-Saharan Africans the brain is undeveloped and more primitive. There are big differences, for example, in the size and shape of the prefrontal cortex, which of all the races is the most highly developed in Europeans.

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It is also widely believed that the size and number of connections in the prefrontal cortex relates directly to sentience, as the prefrontal cortex in humans occupies a far larger percentage of the brain than any other animal. And it is theorized that as the brain has tripled in size over 5 million years of human evolution,[30] the prefrontal cortex has increased in size sixfold.[31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefrontal_cortex

Many Afrcians have grooves and bulges across the cranium, suggesting an underlying primitive brain structure which has more in common with the skull morphology of gorillas or baboons than chimpanzees. The idea that we have common primate origins is something that should be contested.




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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:17 pm

That's all very interesting, but I don't think this is the most appropriate place for this discussion. You should post your theories at Sciforums. They have a new forum now called Fringe Science that will suit you very well.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:45 am

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That's all very interesting, but I don't think this is the most appropriate place for this discussion. You should post your theories at Sciforums. They have a new forum now called Fringe Science that will suit you very well.
Blah, blah, blah...

Yet still you cannot explain why you and every other liberal must deny the physical nature of blacks. Why that nature causes you so much anxiety you must reject its existence. It is a child's view which has become indistinguishable from that of the modern mind. Reality is too ugly and frightening for children so certain reports and ideas and images must be kept off the nights news. People must be protected from an indifferent and uncaring universe, even if that means they will inevitably become half-blind liars and hypocrites... blind, in fact, to knowledge of their own nature, as you undoubtedly are.

You are a perfect child of the simulacrum. Not an architect or outsider, but one that prefers the security and safety it offers against the real, a true sheep.

I wish you all the best with your meaningful(less) existence.


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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:51 am

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:54 am

Augmented Reality

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Augmented reality (AR) is a live, direct or indirect, view of a physical, real-world environment whose elements are augmented by computer-generated sensory input such as sound, video, graphics or GPS data. It is related to a more general concept called mediated reality, in which a view of reality is modified (possibly even diminished rather than augmented) by a computer. As a result, the technology functions by enhancing one’s current perception of reality. By contrast, virtual reality replaces the real world with a simulated one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality
Evidence of how the simulacrum is transforming our perception of reality, but not physically changing it. Merely masking and camouflaging it. It is similar to the way the human form is edited in pre-production media, the blemishes and asymmetries carefully airbrushed over or 'corrected', and more darkly how this is applied to even images of the cosmos, adding colors and effects to give them a sense of the sublime, of there being something more there than there is, and that thing being somehow there to comfort and entertain us.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:08 am

Images of the M51 whirlpool galaxy. The top four are heavily edited post-production, usually in paint shop or a similar programs, often times the original image is taken using filters. The bottom image is unenhanced.

The results are that the top four are candified images of the universe, which have more in common with Disneyland or a fairy tale than reality. These are the kinds of images used by publications such as the National Geographic and other academic journals. They are the ones the public is most familiar with either through still media or movies, and it is these that color the public's perception of the universe.









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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:23 am

In a more striking example, the Horse Head Nebula, or Barnard 33, an emission nebula in Orion. Again, the top four are heavily edited and processed, the last one is raw.

It's easy to see how such images play on the more religious inclinations of our nature, designed to provoke awe and wonder, and in doing so encourage us to see magic and mystery in the universe that simply isn't there.









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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:59 am

Yes, this is one aspect of how technologies create The Matrix.

Another is more immediate and everyday.
Go to the supermarket. Observe the produce.
Shiny, almost unblemished...the meats with very little blood.
individuals are raised in a world where nature is pristine, "perfect" for human consumption...no worms, no nasty smells of blood and feces coming out of the animal's entrails...reminding us of what it was.

Now transpose this romantic idealism into the realm of human relationships.
Human affairs are about "pure" love; ego-less...no domination, no conflict, no ulterior motives no cost/benefit...no nastiness.
Everything is unblemished by reality.

If it is, then there must be something more to it....

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:53 pm

You have been living in asceptic Canada for too long.
This is not what most of the world is like.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:04 pm

My dear, I've lived in Europe, Greece more precisely, for over ten years.....in the country.

What the world is like I know....what the world will be like I can imagine.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:06 pm

Do youyou foresee a future with clean and unblemished food, pure love, no domination and no conflict, or at least one in which the majority of the population can make itself believe that ilusion? You are a lot more optimistic about the future than I am.
Better start churning out that soma, we'll need a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:11 pm

I foresee naive, infantile, stupid masses living in fantasy realms where justice reigns, all is peaceful and evolution works on love.

Partly it has began....look in the mirror, dear.
Niggers must have had a glorious civilization....otherwise how unjust the world would be...and yes, it was injustice done to them which kept them from attaining the heights they deserve.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:20 am

http://www.halexandria.org/dward026.htm

I wanted to post this link, instead of quoting. It is a reflection of some of my own intuitive thoughts concerning the internet.

Another day gotta chop wood and carry water.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:28 pm

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I would say that birds and bird-brains, are equal.

I can't imagine how evolution happens when genetic isolation and the environment forcing physical, but not mental, mutations is denied.

We'll have to assume that intelligence evolves magically or that humans, for some reason, are excluded from the natural selection rules.

While living in Greece may make you qualified than most, that certainly doesn't qualify you for knowing the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:34 pm

Never claimed anything about the world.

My living in more than one nation at least makes me more qualified than those who only visit other nations as tourists for a week or two.
There is a difference between living somewhere and visiting somewhere knowing that you will go back home without ever actually tasting the reality of the place.

But how does this have anything to do with the quote you responded to?

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:46 pm

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I wanted to post this link, instead of quoting. It is a reflection of some of my own intuitive thoughts concerning the internet.

Another day gotta chop wood and carry water.
The internet is proving to be a fascinating subject.

I would say other than how it is providing access to information it is also making it difficult to judge which information is reliable.


This "Global Mind" you mention is nothing but the hive mind, the herd mind, gaining prevalence over all independent or more discriminating thoughts.

There is such a thing as too much choice or too much information, particularly when the methods of judging are never cultivated.
Take Democracy and its all-participating aspects, though this might be a myth more than a reality:
Does offering equal vote to both the average, the below average and the above average lead to a "higher" judgment or does it diminish thinking, lowing it to its lowest common denominator?

Take these on-line philosophy forums which have a policy of all-inclusiveness, mass participation, just as long as all are respected equally...in other words they are internet interpretations of the real-world with its contrivances, hypocrisies and restricting rules: do they result in any "higher" intellectual conversation or do they remain fixed upon the same social parameters they would have if this conversation was occurring publicly in the "real" world, and not in an anonymous setting where presumably all are more free to speak their minds?

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:24 pm

The new form of book burning: http://svigor.wordpress.com/

Corporations with "hate speech" legislation.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:41 pm

Anything can be labeled "hateful" because emotion does not subscribe to reasoning.
Anybody can claim to be hurt by a comment.
Anything can be considered to be promoting violence or to be hateful if it even hints at a biological discrepancy which insults or hurts someone's feelings.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:53 pm

Indeed.

Weasel words they can use to censor anything they disapprove of.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:25 am

Satyr wrote:
sweetpea wrote:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward026.htm

I wanted to post this link, instead of quoting. It is a reflection of some of my own intuitive thoughts concerning the internet.

Another day gotta chop wood and carry water.
The internet is proving to be a fascinating subject.

I would say other than how it is providing access to information it is also making it difficult to judge which information is reliable.


This "Global Mind" you mention is nothing but the hive mind, the herd mind, gaining prevalence over all independent or more discriminating thoughts.

There is such a thing as too much choice or too much information, particularly when the methods of judging are never cultivated.
Take Democracy and its all-participating aspects, though this might be a myth more than a reality:
Does offering equal vote to both the average, the below average and the above average lead to a "higher" judgment or does it diminish thinking, lowing it to its lowest common denominator?

Take these on-line philosophy forums which have a policy of all-inclusiveness, mass participation, just as long as all are respected equally...in other words they are internet interpretations of the real-world with its contrivances, hypocrisies and restricting rules: do they result in any "higher" intellectual conversation or do they remain fixed upon the same social parameters they would have if this conversation was occurring publicly in the "real" world, and not in an anonymous setting where presumably all are more free to speak their minds?

Yes I have learned to recognise some of these herd mentalities by the feeling of fear that they create within.

I also agree with your points about philsophy forums, although I found myself in the debate sites. I was quite excited coming here, because I have been in search of a place online , although I was never really sure what I was looking for.

Ultimately, when it comes to creating and making change I have used the phrase become the change that you wish to see in the world. I dont really seek to change the world first before conquering and knowing myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:48 am

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It is intelligence that separates man from animal, and hence our humanity is a property determined primarily by the size, shape and structure of the brain. In sub-Saharan Africans the brain is undeveloped and more primitive. There are big differences, for example, in the size and shape of the prefrontal cortex, which of all the races is the most highly developed in Europeans.

It is also widely believed that the size and number of connections in the prefrontal cortex relates directly to sentience, as the prefrontal cortex in humans occupies a far larger percentage of the brain than any other animal. And it is theorized that as the brain has tripled in size over 5 million years of human evolution,[30] the prefrontal cortex has increased in size sixfold.[31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefrontal_cortex

though you focus on something that seems so pertinent, it's really not as you are missing what's really going on. there are things beyond race. the problem with the world isn't so much race but the issue between good and persay bad people. for instance, what i've noticed some pigeonhole jews for some unsavory characteristics can be found among any population. this type of thinking is to have a sense of control over something that can't really be compartmentalized in reality but it gives a sense of focus, even if unrealistic. i've noticed that no matter what race, people tend to support those who are similar to them in character which has nothing to do with cognitive intelligence. people are motivated by their primal instincts. for instance, i've noticed that caucasians are similar to africans and hispanics in emotions so they feel more comfortable with them. people's emotional character and inclinations will define who they really are more than anything and that's just the way animals are.

also, i've noticed that caucasians are quite animalistic in their emotional nature which is why many are volatile and are inclined to decadence and hypersexuality and aggression. it was very evident in the school system as most had the atmosphere of a toxic prison yard and not a place of learning. it certainly was not just blacks who were behaving that way as whites were inclined to the same as hispanics as having a similar affinity; aggressive, overly sexual or promiscuous, extreme bad language, general disrespect etc. there was no sense of civility but always quite lurid. some schools were a bit better but most were like this. in contrast asian students and schools generally are the complete opposite.

what you don't get is you think it's just other races when in fact, it's your own race with the problem as well. you are not the most emotionally mature people even if there are more geniuses among caucasians.

i mean, you really misread people and don't have a clue as to what is actually going on with people. i don't know if this is intentional cognitive dissonance or not. i've witnessed countless times caucasians exhibiting very bad character and a malevolent degenerate type of disdain or malice toward anything of value, right or good while advocating or supporting shit or shitty people as well. you have liars, cheats and shitty people just like any other race. like i said, these characteristics is not so much due to race as to the type of person they are as well there are people of other races who have good character regardless of intelligence. still, there are lots of idiots among caucasians as well. you've got your people all wrong. in fact, i've witnessed that most caucasians do tend to be very animalistic, even a bit psycho or too hyperreactive and impatient with a very short attention span and only a few elite who are extremely intelligent or cerebral who are more conscientious.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:50 am

Genetics is not about absolutes.

It indicates a propensity, a potential in regards to an other.
It is history manifest.

The Jews have a history; the blacks have a history; the Europeans have a history.
Forgetting it or dismissing it as irrelevant is current....modern.
A type of self-imposed forgetfulness.

What does being a gorilla imply?
That a past, a history known or unknown, has established certain potentials and even the possibilities of surpassing them.

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PostSubject: Re: Technology and the Levelling of Man Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:09 pm

Excellent analysis cran, but this white attitude you speak of, that we share with blacks and Hispanics, is due to decades of Jewish propaganda and influence in the schools and in the media. Our culture is in decline, it wasn't this way in the 1940s, 50s and 60s, this is a recent development. You invite hundreds of millions of Jews, blacks, Hispanics and animals into china and see how well behaved your people become.
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