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PostSubject: Australoids Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:01 am

Should these... things, be classified as Homosapien?







Australoids, aka Australian Aborigines, are the indigenous population of Australia. They faced a similar fate native americans faced when Europeans began colonizing Australia. Many of them died after having a taste of our guns, germs and steel. Some were taken as slaves, others assimilated (as much as they could), and others hid in the wilderness.

Genetically speaking they're a distinct population, don't let their appearance fool you. Despite their short, wide, flat noses, frizzy hair and dark skin, they are actually more related to Mongoloids and Caucasians than Negroids. Their skull shapes, heavy brow ridges, large face and small, sloping foreheads, suggest they belong to a primitive, earlier strain of human, more primitive than even Negroids. Their closest relatives are Papuans from Papua New Guinea, the Maori from New Zealand and Polynesians, an oceanic, island people that includes Samoans and Hawaiians. However, the Maori seem significantly more advanced than Australoids. Australoids on average, are much more primitive than most humans. in my opinion, they should classified as Homo erectus, or another species of homo, not sapiens. Believe it or not, there exists today primitive subspecies of humans within all races, scattered across the world.

Take Nikolai Valuev, a Russian boxer-







In my opinion, Valuev is a prime example of a primitive, Protocaucasoid, bordering on Homo-neanderthalensis. Actually, I think he is neanderthalensis, or at least a hybrid.

The other day I witnessed what I believe to be a remnant from our past, a primitive neanderthal man accompanied by his caretaker. He wasn't a down syndrome man, for he had none of the common facial features. What he did have was big, round eyes, a big face, full lips, a protruding jaw, massive brow ridges and a sloping forehead that seemed to leave little room for development of the frontal lobe region of the brain. Even though he appeared to be a man of about 30 years, he acted more like a child, full of energy and enthusiasm. His mind was simple and plain, but he was very inquisitive, he asked his handler many questions about the bus and asked if he could pull the bus cord. He had to hold himself back from pulling it too soon, it was quite a struggle for him.

He wasn't deformed in anyway, he appeared in good condition and was quite athletic and physically intimidating, I wouldn't want to be his caretaker, put it that way, I wouldn't want to piss him off. I believe I had a close encounter with a living, breathing neanderthalensis, it was quite a shock, knowing what I know, to see them try to pass this ape off as human and sentient, it's manimalistic properties were glaringly apparent to me.

Here's some pictures of neanderthals to compare with Valuev-



Andre the Giant, Neanderthal?



And people go to movies like Planet of the Apes and are shocked and awed. Nevermind the theater, the apes are here.


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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:40 am

Fuck this.
I am going to go look for a philosophy forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:51 pm

eyesinthedark wrote:
Should these... things, be classified as Homosapien?
No way.

The tragedy is that the white liberal world only keeps these alive for study. It's a modern day freak show, mediated through the fake compassion and hypocrisy of the simulacrum.

On the subject of homo erectus, I think many blacks can be more accurately categorized as such. Richard D. Fuerle, an American anthropologist, has written an interesting thesis on the subject:

http://erectuswalksamongst.us/
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:59 pm

For Valuev, I'd say it's more reasonable that he has a medical condition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly

Consensus today is that we have about 2-4% Neaderthal genes in us? So let's remain skeptical on that.

Richard D. Fuerle's work is commendable, but it should be taken with some salt because unfortunately he maliciously lies in his book:

Quote :
No substantial evidence exists in favour of the idea that there are multiple human biological species however. Arguments based on the use of comparative genetic distances between biological species that are suggestive of the idea that the distances between major racial groups within H. sapiens are greater than the distances recorded between certain other primate species; collapse on the basis that such comparisons have been made by incautiouslycomparing FST estimates derived for different gene-types with different potential selection histories.
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/woodley-2009-is-homo-sapiens-polytypic-human-taxonomic-diversity-and-its-implications.pdf

I recommend Race by J.R. Baker.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:40 pm

Yes, niggers tend to have more skull curvature or slopage than caucasians or mongoloids on average (as well as more prognathism). However, they are no where near as bad as australoids. I think most negroids are essentially homo sapiens, australoids I'm not so sure about.

Oh and thanks for the link.

Edit- Then again, I'm used to observing mulatto hybrids, there are many purebred negroid specimens that are highly questionable.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:15 am

Advocate, I'm sure in some cases yes (tumor), in some cases no (genes). I'm sure some of these, grotesques, these, monstrosities, were told to grow that way by genes.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:56 am

eyesinthedark wrote:
in my opinion, they should classified as Homo erectus, or another species of homo, not sapiens.


Interesting that the visible differences between these races are much more dramatic than the difference between 'Papilio Rutulus' and 'Papilio Glaucus', the two subspecies of tiger
swallowtail, east and west. But phenotype is not the best indication of genotype.



Rutulus (western)


And Glaucus (eastern)


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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:29 am

Truth is there, in front of us, but denied.

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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 pm

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Should these... things, be classified as Homosapien?

No. Why classify them at all? Is classification not the source of all delusion?

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Genetically speaking they're a distinct population, don't let their appearance fool you. Despite their short, wide, flat noses, frizzy hair and dark skin, they are actually more related to Mongoloids and Caucasians than Negroids. Their skull shapes, heavy brow ridges, large face and small, sloping foreheads, suggest they belong to a primitive, earlier strain of human, more primitive than even Negroids. Their closest relatives are Papuans from Papua New Guinea, the Maori from New Zealand and Polynesians, an oceanic, island people that includes Samoans and Hawaiians. However, the Maori seem significantly more advanced than Australoids. Australoids on average, are much more primitive than most humans. in my opinion, they should classified as Homo erectus, or another species of homo, not sapiens. Believe it or not, there exists today primitive subspecies of humans within all races, scattered across the world.

I have seen a few documentaries on early humans' migration routes and based on that I can say the Australoids are direct decedents of Homo Erectus that crossed the bridge between Australia and Asia around 200 000 years ago and continued to evolve undisturbed by other branches of humans, kept their genes free from interbreeding unlike the Cromagnon and the Neanderthal. Their interbreeding is probably the cause why today we can still find people with neanderthal features; a strong indication that Neanderthal's genes still live in all of us, dormant, but still there. Occasional emergence of our genetic past could also account for the "werewolf syndrome" in which all of the body of the "inflicted" person is covered in hair - this is one of the rarest conditions (it happens to one person in a billion) and is part of an even older version, most likely Homo Habilis's genetic remnant.

Some of the Homo Erectuses left Africa before those who eventually branched out into Europe; their fossils were found in central Asia (I forgot how old they were) and it is likely that from there they went south, toward modern day Indonesia and Australia. Just like their descendant Homo Florensiensis who was left behind on Flores, the Australoids should be part of the same branch - separate from the group that left for Europe long after that and turned into Heidelbergensises, Neanderthals and Cromagnons.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:41 pm

Many forget that extinction does not always go through the avenues of death.
One vanishes form the face of the earth, just as easily with assimilation.

Modernity extinguishes all that resists its leveling powers by assimilating them and making them into castrated products to be sold as symbols, dressing the chests of stunted creatures.

In feeding we only recall the dying or an alien organism to sustain us, but we forget how assimilation is also a form of feeding, only here the organism is kept alive, though brain-dead, will-less, sustained in a plant-like state so as to continuously feed upon its feeble attempts to break free and to grow.

The extinction of many species might have mostly resulted din the end of a genetic blood-line, but there were some who were but lost in a sea of uniformity or added to a new blood-line.

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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:34 am

What you just said reminds me of American Indians, they lived on that continent for 10000 years as nomads, hunter-gatherers, until the Christians came and "made them see the light". They didn't die (not completely anyway) but instead ended-up wearing suits, driving SUVs - turned white. As far as I know, they no longer exist, they sold their souls to modernity...

The Aborigines are still in the process of assimilation, but it's only a matter of time. Also, the true Negroes, Africans. I pity them, truly. They never had the whole "starving Africa" problem until the Europeans came to "civilize" them; they came, conquered them, introduced their institutions, formed cities - and then simply left the cesspool they created, strikingly similar to the one at home...

I think that when the last of the co called "primitive" tribes and nations are finally destroyed (no matter how) that we will no longer have a frame of reference of our true nature because they are the only link still in existence to our roots. Without roots, the living whithers away and dies. Simple.

I wonder how long will it take for people to realize they've been duped? That their entire life, their ideals, their values - that it's all a sham?
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:39 pm

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What you just said reminds me of American Indians, they lived on that continent for 10000 years as nomads, hunter-gatherers, until the Christians came and "made them see the light". They didn't die (not completely anyway) but instead ended-up wearing suits, driving SUVs - turned white. As far as I know, they no longer exist, they sold their souls to modernity...
You forget that they almost went extinct from the diseases the Caucasians brought over from the chemicals they were introduced to (alcohol) and the war that ensued.
One of the biggest, per capita genocides in the history of man, yet all we hear is about the holocaust.
The only suffering that matters is the Hebrew one, as they are the chosen few and their suffering redeems mankind.
The only human stories available are the Jewish ones, or the Negro plight.

Let the Armenians be forgotten.

Archangel wrote:
The Aborigines are still in the process of assimilation, but it's only a matter of time. Also, the true Negroes, Africans. I pity them, truly. They never had the whole "starving Africa" problem until the Europeans came to "civilize" them; they came, conquered them, introduced their institutions, formed cities - and then simply left the cesspool they created, strikingly similar to the one at home...
These ongoing events offer a real-time experience of what assimilation and the war against all distinction looks like.
The "War on Terror" is the same thing but on a grander scale and using far more sophisticated methods, given the adversary and the history.

Americanism is also called modernity.
I call it feminization to connect it to its organic roots. I draw the conceptual lines all the way back to per-history and to biological processes and functions.
But on the smaller scale, if we wish to begin the investigation at the advent of human civilizations, the same process continues.

The American "culture" (pop culture0 is nothing more than the elimination of all culture.
It is the reduction of quality to quantity. We see this in mathematics where the abstraction of #1 can be applied to define anything, no matter its particular qualities.
This happens with simplification and generalization....ironically the liberals claim that they are against such "primal" practices.

What occurs?
When the least common denominator is sought, then all is reduced to its basic element....in this case it is the human conceptions, as all phenomena, all perceptions, are in the human mind.
So, the lowest common denominator between a cow and a tree, let's say, is that they are both organisms...but when the divergence is even greater, let's say between a cow and a rock, or a particle and a blade of grass, then the lowest common denominator is that they are both noumena.
Their unity is found in the human mind which simplifies them by cutting away their dimensions. This is simplification/generalization....it is what is also called abstraction.

The lowest possible common denominator man can find is that all perceptions are in his brain....he symbolizes this with a number.
From that point on all and everything can be reduced to a meme. The gene ceases to matter...it is irrelevant, inconsequential..."overcome". Ergo being a Negro or a Asian, being male or female does not matter. You are reduced to a numerical symbol, an abstraction, referring to the human simplification/generalization of you.

THIS is modernity.
Your particular qualities, as a persona, a personality, an individual, do not matter; you are simply one person...and so you are automatically the same as one other person, no matter his/her particular characteristics or qualities.
You are made "equal" via abstraction.
Then you are sold the bullshit about how "unique" and 'free" you are; what an "individual you are, as a means of assimilating you within a particular memetic structure: a modernistic culture.

Archangel wrote:
I think that when the last of the co called "primitive" tribes and nations are finally destroyed (no matter how) that we will no longer have a frame of reference of our true nature because they are the only link still in existence to our roots. Without roots, the living whithers away and dies. Simple.
Modern minds live in a linear world. For them what is past is "overcome" or it is automatically "inferior" to what is to come. The known fills them with stress, as it is determining and requires effort, work, action, to be dealt with; whereas the future is forever hopeful...one must have faith, because the unknown can be anything and "having a positive outlook" helps the retard deal with the past, which he cannot, really, overcome.
All he has now is hope. No matter how stupid, weak, ugly, he might be he has hope, the possible future, to draw courage from.

Not the past, where his essence lies, because he hates himself and so his past is what he wishes to forget.

Archangel wrote:
I wonder how long will it take for people to realize they've been duped? That their entire life, their ideals, their values - that it's all a sham?
They will never realize it.
You fail to understand that this is a matter of survival for this sort of man.
He not only is "due pd" but he wants to be duped. this is the only way he can cope.

Remember, most people would have never survived long enough to come to this point, within natural environments: they would have been culled out of existence.
Life is hard enough for even the strongest most fit individual, so for a weakling, coward, moron, this difficulty is multiplied....particularly when he is sheltered and helped to live within controlling, manipulative, authoritative systems.
Still, the weakling knows who and what he is, intuitively if not consciously. he required additional help to deal with his condition; helping him to cope with himself and the world as it is and within which he has no place.

The "sham" is all about maintaining the illusions necessary for the majority to deal with a world they could not deal with otherwise.
Thusly, power is weakness; beauty is "internal"; intelligence is the awareness of one's own duties; ego is a sin; strength and the world is an illusion; all value is found via an other.

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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:57 pm

All this is eye-gougingly obvious and needs no more words. You said it yourself in that essay of yours, Nietzsche cautioned against it more than a century ago, and many others before since the begining of civilization... None of it left any significant mark on the overall picture.

Clearly, something new must be introduced before we all submit to pessimism. I don't know what that is, so i'm here, looking for either it or a path to it. How does one beat mathematics?
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:28 pm

You are still functioning under the premise of changing the world; healing it; becoming its master.

I have no interest in this, but feel free to do as you wish.

For me the world, in whatever form I find it, is the environment.
If I were born in a jungle then the jungle with its snakes and predators and birds and trees and rivers and climate would be my environment. I would be challenged to preserve myself and all that I hold dear within it.
I am born in this urban post-Cold war culture of no culture.
Within ti I do as I would do in any other environment:

I study its patterns in climate. I study its occupants; their behaviors, their natures.
I find resources to use for my own ends.
I study myself, in relation to this environment. I establish what makes me other than it and all that it entails. I learn what I truly need, rather than what I am told that I need, and I figure out ways of acquiring it.

I then seek out others like me, to learn form to share and to commune with.
Through it all I try to preserve what I consider valuable within what I consider valueless.


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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:45 pm

Every organism, once put in an environment, will either submit, dominate or try to avoid it. This is almost never planned, it just happens. I would gladly stop trying to bend the world according to my will, as it's almost certain I will eventually fail, but the world, my environment I'm placed in - almost certainly will NOT. I refuse to submit, cannot dominate, and am left only with avoidance. But that is just going from one extreme to another. It would be great if there is a fourth option.

Have you ever been in this mindframe I described? If so, what was your solution? Fatalism?
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:04 pm

No fatalism: parasitism.
Tarzan found himself among the apes...what did he do?
He sought out his own kind.

To be a tribe within a "tribe" is feasible.
In fact the beginnings of such a thing has already begun, right here.
This was my intent.
A place where some people like me, those who had my values, my awareness, my ideals would, at some point, find themselves being drawn to.

What does a tribe do when in the jungle surrounded by beasts and vegetation and the unknown?
They build a hearth, they share and cooperate and bond.
Do they plan to change the jungle into a parking lot?
The degenerate ones might...not I.



I do not wish to change the world to suit my particular tastes. My goal is to adapt, preserving the parts of me which I consider superior than the common; I wish to find my self, to know myself, by discriminating and becoming more conscious of divergence and sharpening my conceptual blade upon the stones and bones.

My "fight", my struggle, started over a decade ago in these internet places, but way before that in my personal life.
Amongst the garbage, the vegetables and the beasts I have found some, not many....the rest I use, abuse or ignore.
You see, when I insult a retard it is, for me, like slapping a dog who just nipped at my ankle or just peed on my carpet. I do not consider it anti-social or "wrong" - i am not ashamed about it - because it is not of my kind.
It is unfortunate and I do not enjoy being cruel to a stupid animal but if it bites me or disrespects my space then I'll fuckin' slap it around.

If nothing else I have embarked on a mission to plant mimetic seeds; to expose those that come into contact with me to an idea(l). Whether they recognize it, accept it, understand it, appreciate it is their problem.
My goal is not to save the world or any individual person; it is to save those that can be saved, if saving they need.
I do not intend to be a martyr or to risk my own well-being on the off chance that I can help someone...I am no idiot.
If someone can be helped then he will help himself. I only offer a spark, if I can...an insight, a reason, a heartening song in the quiet.

It's hard to be "like this" in such a world...like being lost in a jungle: alone, hungry, lonely, sometimes falling into desperation, feeling afraid, like a weirdo.
I'm the little fire in the dark...come too close and I'll burn, stay away and you feel the cold. The right distance is needed.

Come, warm yourself, eat from my humble offerings, stay or depart, as you will.

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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:40 am

Satyr wrote:
Archangel wrote:
What you just said reminds me of American Indians, they lived on that continent for 10000 years as nomads, hunter-gatherers, until the Christians came and "made them see the light". They didn't die (not completely anyway) but instead ended-up wearing suits, driving SUVs - turned white. As far as I know, they no longer exist, they sold their souls to modernity...
You forget that they almost went extinct from the diseases the Caucasians brought over from the chemicals they were introduced to (alcohol) and the war that ensued.
One of the biggest, per capita genocides in the history of man, yet all we hear is about the holocaust.
The only suffering that matters is the Hebrew one, as they are the chosen few and their suffering redeems mankind.
The only human stories available are the Jewish ones, or the Negro plight.

Let the Armenians be forgotten.

Archangel wrote:
The Aborigines are still in the process of assimilation, but it's only a matter of time. Also, the true Negroes, Africans. I pity them, truly. They never had the whole "starving Africa" problem until the Europeans came to "civilize" them; they came, conquered them, introduced their institutions, formed cities - and then simply left the cesspool they created, strikingly similar to the one at home...
These ongoing events offer a real-time experience of what assimilation and the war against all distinction looks like.
The "War on Terror" is the same thing but on a grander scale and using far more sophisticated methods, given the adversary and the history.

Americanism is also called modernity.
I call it feminization to connect it to its organic roots. I draw the conceptual lines all the way back to per-history and to biological processes and functions.
But on the smaller scale, if we wish to begin the investigation at the advent of human civilizations, the same process continues.

The American "culture" (pop culture0 is nothing more than the elimination of all culture.
It is the reduction of quality to quantity. We see this in mathematics where the abstraction of #1 can be applied to define anything, no matter its particular qualities.
This happens with simplification and generalization....ironically the liberals claim that they are against such "primal" practices.

What occurs?
When the least common denominator is sought, then all is reduced to its basic element....in this case it is the human conceptions, as all phenomena, all perceptions, are in the human mind.
So, the lowest common denominator between a cow and a tree, let's say, is that they are both organisms...but when the divergence is even greater, let's say between a cow and a rock, or a particle and a blade of grass, then the lowest common denominator is that they are both noumena.
Their unity is found in the human mind which simplifies them by cutting away their dimensions. This is simplification/generalization....it is what is also called abstraction.

The lowest possible common denominator man can find is that all perceptions are in his brain....he symbolizes this with a number.
From that point on all and everything can be reduced to a meme. The gene ceases to matter...it is irrelevant, inconsequential..."overcome". Ergo being a Negro or a Asian, being male or female does not matter. You are reduced to a numerical symbol, an abstraction, referring to the human simplification/generalization of you.

THIS is modernity.
Your particular qualities, as a persona, a personality, an individual, do not matter; you are simply one person...and so you are automatically the same as one other person, no matter his/her particular characteristics or qualities.
You are made "equal" via abstraction.
Then you are sold the bullshit about how "unique" and 'free" you are; what an "individual you are, as a means of assimilating you within a particular memetic structure: a modernistic culture.

Archangel wrote:
I think that when the last of the co called "primitive" tribes and nations are finally destroyed (no matter how) that we will no longer have a frame of reference of our true nature because they are the only link still in existence to our roots. Without roots, the living whithers away and dies. Simple.
Modern minds live in a linear world. For them what is past is "overcome" or it is automatically "inferior" to what is to come. The known fills them with stress, as it is determining and requires effort, work, action, to be dealt with; whereas the future is forever hopeful...one must have faith, because the unknown can be anything and "having a positive outlook" helps the retard deal with the past, which he cannot, really, overcome.
All he has now is hope. No matter how stupid, weak, ugly, he might be he has hope, the possible future, to draw courage from.

Not the past, where his essence lies, because he hates himself and so his past is what he wishes to forget.

Archangel wrote:
I wonder how long will it take for people to realize they've been duped? That their entire life, their ideals, their values - that it's all a sham?
They will never realize it.
You fail to understand that this is a matter of survival for this sort of man.
He not only is "due pd" but he wants to be duped. this is the only way he can cope.

Remember, most people would have never survived long enough to come to this point, within natural environments: they would have been culled out of existence.
Life is hard enough for even the strongest most fit individual, so for a weakling, coward, moron, this difficulty is multiplied....particularly when he is sheltered and helped to live within controlling, manipulative, authoritative systems.
Still, the weakling knows who and what he is, intuitively if not consciously. he required additional help to deal with his condition; helping him to cope with himself and the world as it is and within which he has no place.

The "sham" is all about maintaining the illusions necessary for the majority to deal with a world they could not deal with otherwise.
Thusly, power is weakness; beauty is "internal"; intelligence is the awareness of one's own duties; ego is a sin; strength and the world is an illusion; all value is found via an other.

So, what?
Solutreans had conclusively stablished themselves long before Amerindians.
Your bleeding heart is deluging your reasoning capacity.
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PostSubject: Re: Australoids Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:22 am

>one of the biggest per capita genocides.
Dude, what.
I could describe you in plenty of ways, but it was never "a fucking idiot" until I read this from you.
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