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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:33 pm

Such a poem is written for and by people who like their philosophy in small doses, and affirming common (mis)conceptions, an idealistic, positive, shallow philosophy, one that can be appreciated by Gaia as well as Uranus.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:34 pm

Jeez, I'm amongst girls.

The essence of agape, dear girl, is that it's based no rational considerations: common goals, common interests, common motives, common principles.

So that at any time if one is asked why one can give a response grounded on awareness and not puppy eyes and all that bullshit you just vomited.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:53 pm

this is isn't a refutation of what i posited.

love has to be experienced on both a rational and an emotional level, but some choose to emphasise one over the other. without emotion, i am fairly certain one would be unable to act. life cannot be cut up into neat little bits, we experience this world with the whole mind, though some are more rationally inclined and others emotionally inclined, for various reasons, one being innate ability, the other being choice, preference.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:14 pm

Little girl, emotion is an automated response to sensual stimuli.

It is like a nexus between body and the emergent consciousness it produces; an early form of awareness or responsiveness.
Or should I say it is the connector between the brain functions and the rest of the body's functions...the nervous system intertwining with the rest of the processes in the ongoing becoming.
They evolved to produce automatic responses and so increase effectiveness and efficiency.

Later emotions evolved as a way for overcome earlier automated responses...such as love evolved to deal with the already established flight/fight mechanism that prohibited heterosexual interaction and made social behavior impossible.

This is why in our socialized world love is so important and constantly glorified, made out to be the solution to all woes and even raised to the status of God.
I suspect that it evolved as a mutation of the feeding or hunger feeling.
Love is experienced as a hunger...especially erotic love which is a more primal and more instinctive for of it.
This is why biting and in general the male wants to devour, ravish the female, and the female wants to assimilate, incorporate the male.

But that's another story...now little princess...
Emotion is not some mystical force, nor is one emotion better than another.

Emotion is merely a more sophisticated form of sensation....reason is the overpowering of both through understanding and willpower.
It is the feminine being controlled by the masculine elements...the male always being interested in control and dominance and the female always wanting to abandon herself, be taken.

It is true that once reason understands the emotional experience is diminished...some think this a terrible thing because for them losing themselves in sensation is what life is all about.

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:53 pm

emtion can be a response to a variety of things, turkmen, from sensory stimuli, such as a smile or an approaching lion, to something more abstract, like love of god, fear of losing money at the stock market, fear of contracting aids, or hatred for the increasing number of fast food establishments opening up in your neighbourhood, to sensory stimuli, yes, but also to ideas and sophisticated projections, extrapolations and anticipations of sensory stimuli. emotions are not only active responses to what is/may be, but they can also be passive projections of what is/may be, via intuition.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:02 pm

in other words, girlfriend, not only can emotions tell us whether we should care for something or someone, or what/who we should care about, they can tell us about the world itself, who might be friend or foe, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:05 pm

this brings us to heart of the matter. if emotion can tell us about the world, what is, in addition to telling us what ought to be, can reason tell us what ought to be in addition to telling us, what is?
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm

Try again.

Stimuli includes all that.

When I imagine, project, hope, I am stimulating myslef....bringing up imagery, fantasizing.
this is why humans suffer more than animals, or those with more awareness have more to deal with: they do not only have to deal with the immediate, the appearance, but also the possible appearance, the probable, the what if.

This is why genius and madness are so closely linked; this is why genius has been associated with imagination, with being able to project, with timelessness.
The more aware a mind is the more possibilities open up to him....awareness can be prohibitive towards action and detrimental towards survival.

See, little girl, not all is so cut and dry...or evenly divided between good and bad, mind and body, reason and emotion.
you can think of sensation as a precursor to emotion, as emotion is an adaptive reaction to sensations.You can think of reason as a sophistication of emotional reaction or reactivity in short.
It inhibits automatic responses because it seeks motive and reasons, it seeks reason.

Girls like you and your girlfriends, are emotive...reactionary, intuitive, emotional, instinctive, though you profess to being anything but that.


For a female love is attached to sexuality and sexual reproduction....it is eros.
She has very little capacity for agape, as she cannot attach herself to anything on a rational level. It has to be emotinoal or utilitarian, girls are pragmatic.

For men it is not so. Love for them is about trust, loyalty, kinship, shared ideals and ideas and goals.
This is the only way they can bond into hunting parties and military units.
Have you not heard of a man stepping aside for a buddy, so that his buddy can have a girl?
How many women have you heard do the same?

Granted, even amongst men this level of camaraderie is rare...it usually happens when a shared threat has been surpassed. For men all is a resource, including a female, and so bonding with other males increases their potential for acquiring and exploiting resources.

eyesonmycrotch wrote:
in other words, girlfriend, not only can emotions tell us whether we
should care for something or someone, or what/who we should care about,
they can tell us about the world itself, who might be friend or foe,
etc.
Lady, did you not read?
Allow me to re-post:

Satyr wrote:
Later emotions evolved as a way for overcome earlier automated
responses...such as love evolved to deal with the already established flight/fight mechanism that prohibited heterosexual interaction and made social behavior impossible.
Shall I decipher it for ya, sweetie?
Want me to chew it up and place it in your mouth in a loving embrace?

Pucker-up little girl:
Love, essentially was meant to overcome the fight/flight mechanism...and so its effect is inebriating, numbing, oftentimes contrary to reason, as it takes on risks for little return.
Take a cow who runs to rescue her calf...now she can have more calves but she runs into a pack of wolves nonetheless.
Her actions are contrary to reason, they have no reason, they are pure automated responses meant to facilitate heterosexual reproduction.

Take a bitch, like you....you love being penetrated, by a bigger stronger male.
This could prove to be deadly, but you cannot help yourself being taken over by the sexual version of love, eros...lust.

You'll endure his penis, take his heavy body, gestate his sperm, risk death during childbirth, run to his rescue against your better judgment, and all of this without actually thinking and rationalizing it.
You simply act on instinct...it feels right...it feels good.
You might rationalize it later, but only after you've acted.

Thinking, knowing, understanding, is actually detrimental to acting.

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 pm

right, so all has a basis in the physical, in survival, that much we can agree upon, although i'm willing to entertain alternative cosmologies and biological narratives. emotions are fundamentally about personal survival, usually, although it is always not so easy to grasp how. a snails behaviour is more simplistic, more immediate and base, so it is easy to see, that everything it does is about procreation, and consumption, but monkeys like us are more elaborate, we have all these behaviours like buying jewlery or wofking on our abs and wearing thick shoes, to make us appear taller, all behaviours that would not have otherwise have evolved, if it weren't for, sexual reproduction.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:27 pm

analyzing things via reason, lovrboy, we are able to see that all romance and all the little games we play, are not alwys done for their own sake, but are often for procreation, all can be reduced to the natural, the physical, to basic survival. however, we also do these things for their own sake, even if they would not have evolved if it weren't for the 4 fs, so even if a mans testicles were cut off, or his semen contained no sperm, and had no chance of ever firtilizing a lady, he may still comb his hair, shine his shoes, save for the future and work on his pecks, even if his seed had no future.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:31 pm

and even if you told him, your seed has no future, he would still go on as if it does, and performing these elaborate rituals of courting a fem, etc, even understanding his blood dies with him, for regardless of whether these emotion like love and greed would not have evolved without the 4 fs 1st evolving, they still have inherent meaning and value for us
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:36 pm

How naive little sluts can be.

Little woman the only thing intricate about humans is the contexts, the paraphernalia, the fact that humans, unlike snails, can trick themselves can lie to themselves can resist temptation, can go against their very nature...go against nature.
They can be nihilistic.

Sweetie, no matter what you tell yourself when you are shaving your legs and plucking your eyebrows, if it is a culturally associated with women being attractive by eliminating all aspects of their primal state, then you are still looking for dick.

Darling, women put on daring dresses, show cleavage and leg, sometimes all the way up to their pussy, all the while telling themselves that they are just going out with the girls to dance.
Sweetie, words are words, particularly when you lack integrity and are obsessed with self-delusion.

What is complex, little whore, is how humans try to pretend to be other than what they are.

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:40 pm

turkish delight, i dont think you listened to a word i said, you stupid pathetic peiece of shit, you are merely echoing what i said. i am all too familiar with darwinism, and its impliacations for understanding human nature
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:42 pm

you stupid cunt, you pathetic peice of garbage, you will always be my intellectual bitch.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:43 pm

here me fag boy?
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:44 pm

You are "aware" but so delightfully resistant...all coy and wanting to be raped, over and over again.
Here you are challenging me but not...simply wanting to let me know that you know...wanting to rub-up on my stick and have me lift it and pound you with it, over and over again.

You sly she-devil you.... Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:47 pm

hannibal lectre, no no, i think were dealing with diferent sort of animal, here, is that you, gacy, how many times have i penetrated you in your mind, how many times did you stick your tongue out to recieve my white waifer, like a little catholic school boy, a little dandy orthodox schoolyard boy.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:49 pm

it's not gay if i'm on top she thinks to herself, but deep down inside, it's always been you on the bottom, hasn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:51 pm

you were gay then, and you still r.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:56 pm

Razz

Oh dear girl, I smelled your pussy a while ago.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:43 pm

eyesinthedark wrote:
this is more like- love is in the tongue than in the eyes. the point she is making is not that love is subjective, which is how the sentence is normally taken, but that pleasure and the the pain associated with alcohol can be taken as a figurative metaphor for love, a rather common metaphor, theres nothing especially original or profound about it. the initial sweetness of the drink is early, innocent, naive, ideal love. the bitters and the herbals represent the middle stages of a relationship, the trials and tribulations, when the flaws and imperfections of each other can no longer be concealed, they are revealed, and relationship grows more complex, more dynamic and serious. finally at the end, we're left with an alluring, enticing promise,that despite all the hardships and struggles, with coming of the hot sensation, love will redeem itself in the end, all will be worth it, the essence of love contained in a drink. The poem is meant to be experience on multiple levels, first the sensual, then the emotional
No, that's your interpretation of it.
And your interpretation is telling of your naive perception of love.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:47 pm

eyesinthedark wrote:
Such a poem is written for and by people who like their philosophy in small doses, and affirming common (mis)conceptions, an idealistic, positive, shallow philosophy, one that can be appreciated by Gaia as well as Uranus.
I'm guessing you belong to this exclusive group of people only for which such intense poetry can be understood.
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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:51 pm

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Jeez, I'm amongst girls.

The essence of agape, dear girl, is that it's based no rational considerations: common goals, common interests, common motives, common principles.

So that at any time if one is asked why one can give a response grounded on awareness and not puppy eyes and all that bullshit you just vomited.


Oh good, you managed to grab the tip again.
That means I can ignore all the confused fumbling that came before it. excellent.

I disagree with your deffinition. There is nothing rational about agape. It doesn't arise from understanding or sense.
Agape is love for itself. Just as in art beauty exists in itself. It's an "aesthetic" love, if you will. I'm afraid that you are not in the right mind set to be able to make this connection, so I will drop it for now.

If you get down to the engines, you can call it the thing you can feel but not explain, but that is in some way related to the survival of your clan. Some thing that may appear altruistic, but it is not so in a strict sense, as it favors you as a part of a group. I have less interest in this low level view of sensations than you do.

I'd like to ask a favor. Who started to talk about emotions? Can we stop? It is sensations we are concerned with here. Adding emotions makes the conversation ambiguous.



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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:59 pm

you're all fucking stupid, fuck all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7BanirZtX8

stupid forum.


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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:36 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Open Challenge Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:45 pm

What we need is more emoting...a conjuring up of mystical powers.
Love just happens...out of the nothing something....like beauty it is in the eye....nothing rational about it.

It makes sense only if you stop thinking about it.

Let us indulge in some word-association and simply feel our way to the truth.

Love, eros agape, what's the difference, it's all sooo magically delightful.

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