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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:04 pm

There is much power in the pride of woman.
She looking down upon you, or certain actions, when you respect her in sexual and intellectual regards. Or the collective, when shaming and pride are societal judgements.

Hence the White Feather was such a great success in Great Britain during WW1, which even drived men to suicide. Like this under aged young man, who went to the front, got wounded and was revalidating in his home town. During this time, he was getting better, walked the street and then it was when he got this '''White Feather'' by some obnoxious bitch - he commited suicide.


But this pride only works, if men have a monopoly on the sexual expression and value of their women.
The fact that this woman isn't feeling ashamed, reflects the men.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:47 am

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When women try to impose power and influence through sexual offers.

Reminds me of this...



Of course it would be none other than whores, who desired to cut off the middle men, in order to service the institution directly.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:15 pm

A recent observation about the topic of single motherhood:
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Single mothers, I suspect, will never stop having affection for the father of their children as an extension of their love for their own child. Nature > Nurture in this case; which makes them less affectionate lovers of their new partners.

Further, in some way, I was wondering if this observation could be linked politically to minority ethnic groups existing within their host countries.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:24 pm

Probably old post, but just found this 9:49
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:23 pm

Having watched that video by Paglia and her one on Transgender, I get a creeping suspicion that America is going to shake off this hedonistic fragility as if it were some kind of bad fever with inexplicable roots. It will shift back to a Christian hypermasculinity and act as if there were no disease ever present. Specifically, the Left is going to go back into hiding as "normal" once (if) all the fuss is resolved. There will be no investigation as to what caused the near completion of full cultural demoralization (communism style). Demoralization, interestingly, can be a synonym for dehumanization via the destruction of agency (responsibility). That is, a person ceases thinking of themselves as personally responsible and instead believes in a responsibility of class or groups exclusively. Considering the female tendency to morally prostrate and be seduced by appeals to "community", hyperfemininity is this allowed nihilistic and hedonistic indulgence in security-by-compromise instead of by conflict. In any given negotiation, with both a man and woman present, there will be some pull to bargain, resorting to violence lastly. The nihilism is basically naivety as Paglia says. Modern Western women are kept naive of history.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:33 pm

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Having watched that video by Paglia and her one on Transgender, I get a creeping suspicion that America is going to shake off this hedonistic fragility as if it were some kind of bad fever with inexplicable roots. It will shift back to a Christian hypermasculinity and act as if there were no disease ever present.

I doubt things will revert, with the current demographic trends set to replace whites even if all immigration were to stop.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:55 am

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Probably old post, but just found this 9:49

The part about heroes is nothing new. TFM made a good video about it:



I know this from my own experience too. The men who risked their lives to defend our country during the war in 1990s are now discarded or even disrespected and outright attacked by many, mostly newer generations and leftist/liberal leaning people for being too fascistic/nationalistic/conservative, blamed that they are hampering progress with their outdated views etc. etc. Some go as far as to outright deny history and invent an alternate history where these men were the aggressors who made the first move and that they should be punished for their war crimes etc etc.

When shit hits the fan and the country needs to be defended suddenly these "evil", masculine, right-wing nationalistic males are called upon to risk their lives defending it, when they are successful in their defense they become an undesirable burden that society needs to get rid of for sake of "progress"... until "progress" fucks everything up and shit hits the fan again...

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:23 am

Conservatives know how to make money, liberals know how to distribute or spend it.
It's the relationship of male provider to the woman of the house raising their children.

He has to risk life and limb to gather resources, and she has to share it evenly, among the children.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:52 pm

And the size of the audience…


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:01 pm

Holy shit... this is actually happening somewhere in the world? That it would go this far... Shocked



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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:22 pm

In response to mannequin in his Stuffz thread:

Yeah, I really shouldn't be surprised considering I already know how liberals/feminists do things slowly, progressively, so first they have some more valid complaints (complaining about actual rape), then they continue trying to extend the emotional response of disapproval people have towards rape to other, less justifiable stuff by calling that rape too in order to get their way.

So then any type of physical touching, intentional or not, becomes rape, then even touching a person you're in relationship with can be called rape, then catcalling is rape, then a woman merely declaring a man is rapist makes him a rapist, then a woman declaring a man is a rapist months after their relationship ended makes him a rapist, then a woman raping a passed out man and claiming she is the one who was raped makes him the rapist.

And if you try to point out how one thing there leads to another and how the line has to be drawn somewhere to prevent feminists from following this logic to its insane end, you're accused of the slippery slope fallacy just for daring to point out patterns.

I think what we'll see happen at the end is what I'd call a rubber band effect. The feminists are extending the rubber band (male tolerance) to its limits and beyond, so the rubber band will either break or come back and slap these feminists back to reality as strongly as they pulled it. Perhaps a bit of both.

The backlash will probably come only when the average male begins to be affected by shit like this on a daily basis, instead of reading about it happening to others. The average person is too stupid to learn anything from 2nd hand experiences, at least when these experiences go contrary to the popular myths.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:01 am


Virtue signalling.
The memetic variant of self-handicapping, associated with peacock, or deer male signaling their genetic quality.
In this case the males signal their mememtic quality, virility, potential.
The male is more vigorously, fanatically feminist, sending to females his beta-male fitness, his alternative to the missing 'alpha', now a monopoly of the institution, as it was, previously, monopolized by the Abrahamic mono-God.
It is cuckolding, on a grand, noetic, scale.

Like buying an expensive, costly to maintain, virility signaling symbol, like a sport-car, like an expensive, large house.
The message is: I can take the costs, because I am memetically fit.

Mt genetic unfitness compensated for with memetic fitness.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:58 am

I think there is a distinctly Jewish consideration of the state being 'Alpha', consistent with their 'God' being Alpha, yet absent. The expectation that the men who created the state (white men) act as subservients/betas to it, instead of identifying with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:12 pm

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This is also a real time portrayal of the effects of feminization. The authoritarian males in the video being sheepish and passive, standing there like a couple of effete clueless dolts with no initiative to enforce their authority and just taking it up the ass, controlled and domesticated by institutional indoctrination. It's not these mentally ill cunts that go around disrupting the village that we have to pay attention to, so much as it is the people in the village who behave and react towards it.

Symptoms and sources of the symptoms.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:10 am

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Notice the 40-60's theme that is appropriated by the talker. The comedic undertones with regard to that theme, as well.

Since pregnancy and feminine nature is so anti-feminist, since the idea of motherhood is so against the ideals of feminist corporate whoredom, they need to have a different image from that of the typical. In fact, they resort to the 60's stereotypes because that's what women associate with traditional roles - and traditional roles with motherhood. As feminists, they cannot be serious while saying what needs to be said, though. They have to make it 'funny' or 'silly'.

They mock the very thing that would remind women of what they're missing and the reason their lives are unfulfilled.

I could likely say, confidently, that without feminism, the modern woman's life would be a joke - and that most women's lives are utter jokes. Women trying to be nihilistic Jesters about their own death. Not much else is more off-putting.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon May 01, 2017 1:07 pm

Of course, socially, women are better able to negotiate and compromise - because radicalism and extremism is foreign to them without exceptional circumstance within a society.

That behavior of compromise over radical idealism is of course preferable to a controlling/conquering interest which has a foothold on the host populace. As foreign elements always desire 'compromise' and 'tolerance' when they are consuming the resources of the host population. Appealing to the feminine capacity as a roundabout way to make the host patriarchal institution weaker, is beneficial, especially when they can cause strife between the females and the men by owning the judgment of what makes the patriarchs "misogynist".

Better situated men who do not wish to handle strife, latch onto these arguments as a way to hedonistically avoid confrontation - a way of conservatism through cashing in social currency.

An example of this behavior came from an article I've lost, but the man talked about how conservatives in the American past always gave a 'wink' and a 'nudge' when they were encountered with criticism by USA National Socialists. They would say "We do not wish to be anti-Semitic. lol Wink" Later on, the same person who used this behavior regretted the climate he helped create by avoiding a campaign of radicalization which created a conservative culture of eternal compromise for the sake of Jewish security. They wanted to remain the 'right-wing', when they were actually regressive through inaction.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon May 01, 2017 1:30 pm

Islam is how Paternalism is preserved in the Old World, and arguably the oldest extensions of human civilization. Thus if paternalism is worthy and beneficial to human society and social functions then such extremism may need to occur within other cultures as well. There are degrees to which a culture and religion must go to *enforce* something like, traditional marriage and monogamy. Furthermore there are problems of incest in Islam (and other old world cultures that do not receive influx of females from other societies). I've heard rumors that it's common for Moslems to marry first or second-cousins. Again, another outcrop of enforcing traditional marriage over centuries. Because families eventually want to keep wealth within their own group, and marriage is a form of trading (based on sexual value of females). Marriage is an elevated form of prostitution. Instead of a female selling herself on the street and making money for a pimp (Western standard), Moslem females are instead sold and traded through the synagogues and mosques, with the families (father) and mosque leader (imam) as the 'pimps'.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon May 01, 2017 1:38 pm

'Feminism' is a creation of upper-middle-class Anglo-Saxon elitist women to become 'independent' from men, and also to earn the "same respect" as men in society. The premises of western feminism are deeply flawed. What it actually is, as a social function, is hedonistic for females. Put simply, western females want the same benefits and privileges that western men receive *without* paying the costs that males do. The main cost absolved, and not paid for, is the price of sex. Feminists cannot, and should never be, taken seriously when they ignore the relevance and obviousness of inherent female sexual value. When females claim that men and women are equal, or humanity is "born equal", then this premise must be slammed.

Because females actually are privileged in society, due to being born, and based on their gender and sex alone. Females have *inherent* social value. As a function, females are an inherent *asset* (positive) of society while males are *liabilities* (negative). I talked about this last year in some of my threads. I also came to the conclusion and further observation that being born 'female', in nature, is an extension of (relative) privilege, since females are the safe-guard of genes. Thus females are inherently more deserving of protection, housing, security, and guardians, etc.

Until "feminists" make some philosophical and intellectual admissions, they will *never* become relevant to serious philosophy and considerations. In the US they are actually a hedonistic movement, and sully many of the positive aspects of femininity. What is a beautiful woman, if not feminine, petite, homely, caring for her children, nurturing, and abundant?
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue May 02, 2017 8:56 pm

I think the most relevant goal and ideal for feminists of the previous two decades (1997-2017) is sex equality of promiscuity. Females want to enjoy the promiscuity of males *without being judged negatively* for it. Thus if a woman fucks around then she must not be "slut-shamed". This has led to the outcrops of many counter-movements. PUA, anti-PUA, sluthate.com, MGTOW, MRA, etc. And it reinforces my own observations about everything. Again it demonstrates that Western Feminism (for whites/WASPs) is about hedonism. Elitist females want to fuck around, but also enjoy the benefits, rewards, and favors as-if they were saints and virgins.

A Modern feminist wants to fuck 100 men, gang-bang, and miscegenation, but at the end, wants to settle-down with a nice white husband, picket fence, and be cared for. Modern feminists and women don't realize, yet, you can't have it both ways.

This is something censored or outright banned, discussed elsewhere, like ILP. And demonstrating this, as a male, means you are a "sexist" or "hater" (of women). This is also redirected, and much the reason and cause why Moderns detest Trump. Because he has preserved many semblances of white Patriarchy. Has remarried with beautiful women, and attractive children, including Ivanka Trump. Thus he gains both the contempt of liberals, leftists, and feminists.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu May 04, 2017 1:45 am

Women, you will find safety in creating laws to account for the worst of men instead of those that enable the best of men.

The best way to be safe is to make sure no man ever has the capability of hurting you.

Lying isn't a problem, only the direction - and a man promising his own irrelevance to everything you want as a woman, while bearing all the costs, is damn euphoric.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu May 04, 2017 10:05 pm


A case of flamboyant, outspoken, dumb, and Ebonics, black woman trashing dumber.

I never thought anyone could get Molyneux to shut his mouth for more then 30 seconds, but this Negro managed it with his anecdotes, exposing how he's another example of how true another "stereotype" is.
It's a study on how one guy can pretend, but only for so long, until boredom and watching what he says, forces him to keep quiet.
It was the moment Molyneux alludes to the Bell Curve that got me a bit excited, but the Negro pretended not to hear...or, perhaps, he had no clue what it was.

This reminded me of the old Stardusk & Barbarossa days.
Two simpletons, with a common gripe, speaking of the self-evident, but not daring to go beyond it, applying it to races, for example.
It's an unstated agreement that racial intellectual differences can be corrected with proper nurturing.

Other than that, it's an interesting conversation of how the state has taken over the alpha-male status, using flesh and blood, biological males, as sperm donors, and psychological blow-up dolls, for women to cuddle with because their genetic dispositions have not, yet, been erased by memetic upbringing.
I guess the state, the institution, is now a kind of daddy, women cannot have sex with, but protects them, watches over them, keeps bad men from hurting his little girls...producing little processes.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu May 11, 2017 9:39 pm

White female feminists are in a way like cuckqueans. They go to work, stay single and give their tax money to welfare recipients to raise their family instead of their own.

Also, those single and hard working feminists are like socially awkward males who never have children. They work, drink and then die. Meanwhile, the welfare recipients raise their kids, have moments of kinship pride at their achievements and satisfied grandmothers.
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