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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:52 am

Value Signaling
Males displaying their resource acquisition potentials to attract females.
Bragging, displaying wealth and health, self-handicapping, displaying sexual desirability by flaunting erotic conquests...are all part of value signaling.
He attracts by appealing to the female's genetic dispositions - her body.  

Alpha and beta male behavior.




Virtue Signaling
Pro-feminine activism, altruistic disposition, agreeableness, supportive emotionally and materialistically.
Unable to compete for the alpha/beta male status, the omega male opts for virtue signaling - the male tells females that he will be a loyal, disciplined friend/lover, a proverbial carpet for them to step upon.
He attracts by appealing to the females memetic pragmatism - her mind.  

Omega male behavior.



Females love the second, intellectually, idealistically, but are attracted to the first, physically, erotically.
This is the contradiction produced by social cooperative unities, where a female under the protective umbrella of a dominant male, has to use inferior males for her in-group threats.
With he external being taken care of, they focus on the internal political, social conflicts.
In over-protective systems, such as our present Modern one, where Nihilism creates an internal bubble that is contradicted by the external, to it, real world, both females and omega males (emasculated males), tend to live in an alternate reality.
Their minds believe one thing, and their bodies, evolved for thousands of years outside the current system, tend to contradict what the are convinced they believe in.

This is pronounced when internally the meme, is nihilistic - it contradicts the real world, which is kept on the periphery, the outside, taken care of by the system, which has taken over the position of alpha - monopoly of masculine traits, abstracted to the point where a child, or a woman, can represent it.
Nihilism, as described in the thread [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is the memetic, political, internal, in-group, methodology for integrating heterogeneous populations into a stable artificial homogeneous 'whole', where race, sex, and in particular masculinity challenging central authority, is eradicated...at least noetically, intellectually, in the mind, psychologically, much to the relief of inferior males.
Restricting or criminalizing masculinity, satisfies females because their feminine sexual powers are released, only controlled by laws and rules enforced by the institution, and it satisfies omega males, because it eliminates the constant reminder of their own status, and essence, and it eradicates a challenge they cannot compete against.
Omegas make the most fanatic social warriors, and feminists.
Females are placed in a constant state few sexual dissatisfaction, because the males they consciously know are good for them, in a social context, do not satisfy their primal desires, but like women throughout the ages, they endure.

Marxism is where feminism is rooted.
Ironically, feminism creates the elimination of masculinity females then complain about - feminine 'complexity' or the feminine mystique, is a product of this contradiction between nihilistic meme, and evolved genetic predispositions - conflict between mind and body.
Only the human species can the brain develop to the point where it can contradict the physical, the body's needs, desired.
This has been associated with cultivation, with civilization - rising about the brutal state of nature....but herein lie the risks...for an extreme detachment of mind from body is a sickness. It may feel liberating, pleasing, empowering, because the mind is not inhibited by world, as body is.
Nihilism is this psychological disposition to escape the real within the ideal.
In the west this became a dogma, a spiritual movement - Abrahamism...developing into Marxism, Feminism, Liberalism, Trasnhumanism....(positive nihilism)
The same disposition became Buddhism in the east.

Mind, placed in artificial human environments, judges pragmatically in that contexts, and body, evolved in more austere, natural environments, and systems not as detached, not as nihilistic as the present one, has its own, automatic judgment.
Females raised in nihilism have conflicting behaviors, to declared values. This confusion has been attributed to their "complexity"...which is an easy way of insinuating ignorance, without admitting it openly and honestly, or a way of insinuating gnosis, without proving it.
Nihilism, in the west, began when Judaism came in contact with Hellenism, producing Christianity.
This is the only reason Judaism still has relevance, and we still associate it along with Hellenism, with western historical developments.  
It's a virus, infecting a host - memetic virus, parasite.
In the sixties, after an internal struggle over the west, which was the Cold War, Nihilism dominated, having determined which strain would take over the infection.
Identity crisis gradually developed from the Hedonism of that decade.
Presently the symptoms have become full blown and so obvious that even Peterson, and other intellectuals, cannot ignore them....diagnosing them using Abrahamic contexts, Abrahamic manuals.

My manuals are pagan...directly from nature, as it is outside Abrahamic memes, and Modern systems.
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I go to the root....before there was Abraham, or any civilization, and I proceed upwards to the present day.
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I begin in nature, as it still exist on the periphery of our urbanized artificial environments.

Behaviors such as homosexuality and rape, are easily explained when you take them outside present, western memetic contexts, with their corruptions and their indoctrinated prejudices.
Both homosexuality and rape are observed in other species, as are the distinct differences between males and females, and between alpha, dominant males and females, and beta, challenging types, and omegas, submitting, surrendering psychologies.
As distinct and obvious as the psychological differences, manifesting in organic behaviors/actions, between [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]...these designating specialized survival strategies, evolving different organic behaviors, different physical and mental traits (appearance, presence)...just as specialized reproductive roles evolve distinct behavior, with distinct traits, and potentials for them- represented, as form, as organ proportionality and hierarchy.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:25 am




Paglia is partly right. What she misses is the fact of the male sexual role.
It is a role that must prove itself, by challenging the dominant male, in other words authority, the status quo.
Women cannot do so, because their sexual role is about preserving, nurturing, producing safe, stable social environments to raise their offspring.
A female is always pro status quo, unless she senses a shift in power.
She then finds pride in perceiving this shift and being on the forefront of its coming.

Also why the loss of the European male will not be without severe intellectual consequences.
Consequences that will be denied, dismissed as not happening, then an attempt to correct it with education, with 'proper' nurturing, as the intellectual levels declining.

then there's the Transhumanist hope that this decline can be remedied by outsourcing creativity to machines, or by compensating gadgetry integrated into the human form (cyborgs) so that mankind can finally become a uniform infantile mass of dependence, or a collective of mechanical zombies - Feminization.


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:36 am



Did anyone say Feminization of Mankind?
Well, for the western man. 
War on Terror is really a war on a bastion of masculinity, as a representation of Allah, the big cock in the vast universal vagina. 
Degenerates will have to reduce all down to emasculated pussies, like them, and make a new population of females sexually dissatisfied and confused as to why they are attracted, pragmatically, to the memetical male ideal, while they hide a secret wet-spot for the natural, genetic masculine ideal. 

Meme contra Gene, when meme is in disharmony with reality, or nature, in other words when it is a Nihilistic meme.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:29 pm

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Meme contra Gene, when meme is in disharmony with reality, or nature, in other words when it is a Nihilistic meme.

The feminist attraction to Islam is a psychological dysfunction, like many, of the absent dominant male. For example, the transsexual disorder in a woman to want to biologically become a man is, in part, the mimetic manifestation in physical form, of the rise of the beta and an extreme overcompensation for them to build up the ideal male in a purely feminine identity within themselves, isolating and abominating its nature entirely. In regards to Islam, for them, it's choosing one aberration for a lessor one; like being sexually attracted to a homosexual man simply because he may act more masculine than a heterosexual. They take what they can get, essentially. This particular nihilistic social activist feminist trend is still new, so i will wait to see how it continues to evolve. As feminization becomes more extreme, so does the sexual behavior of women.

What is certain however, is their loyalties lie with their real long time lover and daddy which is the institution and the State.  And right now, big daddy State wants Islamic cultural infection and wants his white daughter to wed a Muslim and adopt Islamic customs. It seems to me a feminist putting on a burka and virtue signaling has to do more with what her Big Daddy wants and slightly less with that secret wet-spot, even though it plays its guiding part.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:46 pm




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--- Defending a weaker individual may be alpha, tolerating an inferior individual who declares himself/herself your equal or superior, is not.
Alpha is giving what others deserve, and living with the consequences of this value-judgment.

--- Alpha is being so in tune with yourself, and the world you emerge within that it shows in the way you carry yourself - how you behave.
Others intuitively know.
Overman, in the Nietzschean nomenclature:  to have come to terms with your temporality, your mortality - to not resent your own existence, or its limits, its cost.
Such an individual would dominate without even trying, without intending to, those that resent their own existence, and seek for manmade "corrections", escapes, word-games.

--- Stoic: Spartan minimalism, Doric asceticism, corrupted by Christianity to mean self-denial, self-repression, self-deceit.
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sto·i·cism
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noun
noun: stoicism; noun: Stoicism
1.
the endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint.
synonyms: patience, forbearance, resignation, fortitude, endurance, acceptance, tolerance, phlegm
"she accepted her sufferings with remarkable stoicism"
antonyms: intolerance
2.
an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge, and that the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain.

--- Leader - someone who understands the responsibilities, in relation to the accolades, to a degree that he accepts leadership, as necessary, and does not enjoy it.
Platonic philosopher king.
The one who covets, exposes need, weakness, in his coveting.
Like an arts who becomes artistic, calls himself by that name, not because of a necessity, but because he or she covets the admiration, the fame and fortune.
In philosophy: the one who covets the admiration a dead thinker receives, wanting to associate with him, wanting to be like him...but, lacking the mind, the gift, the daemon, the talent, he imitates his style, adopts his metaphors, his language, and declares himself his successor.
He coverts being for inferior others, what the icon/idol was to him - a superior being, a leader, a father figure, an inspiration, a guide, a shaman.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:40 pm


Peterson and Molyneux are baffled by the double standard: how could they be against Nazism and say nothing against Marxism.
Well?
One was created by a group, and the other slaughtered the same group.  
Peterson's Abrahamism prevents him from seeing the obvious, when he can analyze complex issues.
He has a cognitive blindness, produced by his Abrahamic, Christian traditionalism.

Communists, as Molyneux said, slaughtered ten times more people than Nazis, and in Charlottesville they condemn the alt-right, but say nothing about the post-modern Marxist on the other side.  
The most obvious is right before their eyes.
Decades of brainwashing has blinded them to it.

The "tendency of the post-modern left to become nihilistic", he says.
The left IS nihilistic.
Positive-Nihilism, projecting into the world what it is missing to make it tolerable to cowards and vermin.

Molyneux says "language has been fragmented"...yes!!!
They've been ripped to shreds, pulled from their connections to reality, and converted to meaningless metaphors that any douche-bag can rearrange to construct the most pleasing sentence, implying the most gratifying concept.
Look at ILP.
Words as free-association, expressing internal desire, esoteric motives.
Words rearranged and then declared profound, expressing deep ideas...this is like a moron splashing paint on canvas, or taking a dump on a sheet and placing it in a art gallery, implying that it is profound, and that if you do not see it then there's something wrong with you.
Nihilism's primary symptom is in how it uses art....how it uses words. It exposes their psychosis, their internal trauma, in relation to reality.

Yes, Ashkenazim Jews are gifted in symbols/ words, linguistics, like all feminine minds are.
Who got out and survived Hitler's wrath?
The educated, the gifted with words.
Words are the basis of nihilism.
Nihilism is worthless, impotent, without words - beyond the application and effect of symbols/words.
You increase IQ by using stress...weeding out those who cannot endure, and adapt.
Like you weed out the bad athlete: you push him to his limits, you stress his body, and then see which one's performs at a higher range and consistency.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Shelter minds and you create imbeciles.
Protect them from reality's "cruelty" and you produce dim-wits, with a lot of data, knowledge, information, and no talent to use it, to apply it...on understanding of it.

Take away a short-hand philosophy, which is what religions like Christianity are, and you leave behind dim-wits seeking meaning and purpose, because they cannot produce it themselves...they need it to be given, to be a given.
Feed them the spiritual nihilism that kept them in check, and you have a disciplined herd, liberate them from this comforting myth and you create mindless free-radicals with nothing to lose, because they can find nothing of value.

Christianity is the mother of Marxism....Marxism minus god.
It requires a higher abstraction....that most cannot produce. The majority need the anthropomorphic, the familiar, the easy.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:58 pm



Another casualty of post-modern feminism, and political correctness censorship.
Anything relating to the real, is to be suppressed to accommodate the ideal.
The sacrifice is always of a European male.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:43 pm

Feminism is about turning women into inferior men and turning men into inferior women. It is the epitome of dysfunction when speaking of gender roles. A factor that makes countries weak and vulnerable to conquest.

Men want to dominate, women want to be dominated.

A feminist society tells women they should dominate, and tells men they should accept their being dominated.

Nobody but the few sick degenerates truly enjoy this.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:25 pm

An argument was made that women made personal sacrifices for feminism in the early years. The example I'm most familiar with is the suffragettes who would starve themselves if necessary. That's a sacrifice, but it's not actually an act that would best be called fighting. It was an appeal to sympathy to those who already valued them. It may have been an effective action in their cause to be allowed to vote. But, consider a real fight; when one side starves themselves the other is not going to protest.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:30 pm

If it were a patriarchy by a bunch of sexist men, etc. there would have been an authoritarian crack down and indoctrination response to any sort of 'feminist' movement. If men were really such woman-haters as the foreign women try to make the native men appear as to the native women.

In large part the women had an argument because of racialism - you were giving a black man more rights than white women. And that's how they platformed their message.

Sacrifices to what end, should be a question, anyway. What kind of virtue would the men of the nation have if a couple women, foreign or not, starving themselves would affect their choices on what is best for society and not instead putting them in a 'loony bin'.

Though, the idea of locking someone away for being 'crazy' can only come from the mentally ill themselves - an entitlement to 'sanity', created by a class of sociopathic citizens. Someone who presumes to know what's best for another (a stranger) more than they, instead of being honest about only knowing what's best for their own children at most and only because it is necessary.

The origin of the affections that enabled the 'liberation' was the same which enabled the 'liberation from reality'; nihilism. Knowing whether another is delusional in a nihilistic manner is by having confidence in your own observations more than you do in others'; which requires taking responsibility for yourself.

I suppose the Nihilistic liberation came from men who were exhausted from a struggle within the established hierarchy. Working, lower-class, men (especially non-Anglo, as non-Anglo in the USA had a 'history of discrimination' which was really them not owning the land) getting pressured by both sides: their own wives/women in their class and the pressure of performing for the hierarchy. One side had to give, and the upper-class wasn't, so social/cultural degradation did. Same thing today, with the upper-class deciding to destroy all culture rather than become the path of least resistance for the working class's resentment.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:27 pm

Hatred makes a message of love and forgiveness as one of hierarchy and supremacy. And I mean this as an observation of those calling for tolerance and declaring their perceived 'intolerants' as lower on some sort of hierarchy (insulting their character, intelligence, etc.) The question is not who hates or even hates the most, but what justifies the hate. The legitimacy of the hierarchical structure.
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