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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:59 pm

Eh...I've heard better.

Thanks for exposing yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:05 pm

Better?
Was I not feeling well?

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:14 pm

And you are a perfect example of an "eastern" so called European.

So, I was feeling okay but still I must feel "better" now for some reason?

I don't attack you because after years of dealing with simple minds I've grown somewhat tired of it.
I know the routine, the poking, the angles.

I know what you will say in response to what I say.
Can't be bothered, really.

Plus, changing your mind is the last thing I want. I want you to stay exactly as you are.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:29 pm

Cool!
Thanks again.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:31 pm

He's spreading his influence with clandestine maneuvers and building his empire.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:12 pm

@Jester, Who is secret of Bacchus directed by?

The best Romanian film I've seen is The Death of Mr. Lazarescu.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:18 am

All modern pop art is infected with nihilism.
Your appreciation of Lord of the Rings written by a devout Christian is fascinating. The black/white dichotomies and how the Elves (hyperborean) finally exit the scene leaving the world to “men” is also fascinating.

That you always side with the victim is what is the most fascinating.

By the end of the book the beautiful mutiplicity of Middle Earth is reduced to the common man.

Plato realized that in order to build a stable city one must reinforce absolutism amongst the many, while the few must maintain their silence sharing the “truth” of their opinions for themselves.
He claims, through Socrates, to have come to this realization through contact with some Thracian mystic (Zalmoxis) who introduced him to monotheism.
He returns to Athens a changed man, preaching a new kind of religion, after he sees what his earlier teaching have resulted in amongst the base.

If you were to ask me if monotheism is a useful tool that must be spread amongst the many, I would answer YES.
But the usefulness of an idea, a method, does not make it factual, particularly when it comes to human psychology.
The numerical dichotomy of 1/0 is also useful, but it rests on a simplification of reality. Its usefulness remains within limits and the products of tis application must continuously be corrected, adjusted to the reality where neither 1 or 0 exist outside the human brain.

The political and psychological utility of a concept should not be mistaken for its validity.

Reality cannot be endured by all.
Those that can must make it more palatable to those who cannot, if they wish to keep them happy and disiplined.

I think you've mistaken the Dionysian character of Satyr for its host.
If I am Apollonian, as I am, then why did I take on a Dionysian caricature?

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:10 am

My, my...another one has come to knock the old Satyr off his high horse.
Please be the messenger of this grand message…defer and refer as you please.
I have too much homework as it is.
What I see in the “east” is feminization far more advanced than it is in the west.
Little monkeys, so feminine that they seek their genitals in the west.
Smarter than average…yet emasculated beyond belief...emascualted into stupidity; little robotic, mathematicians, all theory and no practice, governed by the binary code (The Matrix anyone?) dropping out of the scene.
How well they took to Communism, and when they did not, how brilliantly they copied creativity and resold it as their own.

Buddhism became what it is, popular, because it was meant to keep the masses from killing the masters.
Best meditate than confront…aoeiiiimmmmm…best turn inward to escape what does not participate there...best find that emtiness and rejoice that it is in all one and the same.

I know, I know...I do not get the meditative task of "clearing your mind of thought", nor can I appreciate the insights your cleansing offers you, but I can appreciate its result.
I do not need to get it up the anus nor find some deep spiritual meaning in "uniting" with another in this way for me to see its end result.
I do not need to know an individual's entire history to see it there, in his appearances.
I am as flexible as I need to be. I hate bending over for women.
I use the same words when I am confronted with the same angles.
I'm old, you see...my back aches.and I've been through this a htousand times before.

I was once told by a Christian that I did not "get Christianity".
Shit, every moron out there, seduced by a mysticism, thinks his surrender to fear represents some profound step forward.
He didn't have to actually tell me what I did not "get", but only imply that there was a complexity only he, and his own kind, could appreciate, one only the saintly, the rare few, could understand and teach.
He too offered me salvation from my world.

Like a drug addict who finds in his intoxication visions he takes as a "deeper understanding."
Your desire to find a God should be explored by you.
How much do you want to belong to an otherness?
Did you not come here, like a female, wanting to rub-up against the Satyr’s erection?

Did you not want to calm it, by stroking it into ejaculating its essence?
Did you want to break it?
Can you hear how bored I sound on my youtube crap?
I'm just tired.

You know of hypermasculinity, what of hyperfemininity?
It's spirit is one of diceit...hyperbolic lies, inlfated redirections - so extreme that they almost sound plausible to a needy mind wanting something supernatural, something supreme, something less mundane.
Its passivity is a farce.

Let us see where you take us with your eastern wisdom.
So far you've proposed a return to Theism, yet profess to being an atheist.
Show us the way forward.

Shall we be convinced by our own symbols or do you wish for more creative expressions of the same shit?

Right/Left has been skimmed over in my [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I've tried to make it easy for anyone to attack me.
What you may call "simple" I call concise. I try not to bury my ignorance in verbal stunts....or mysticism.

But Right/Left, like all human abstractions, can be symbolized in many ways....as the concept of God can.
I've simplified the abstractinos inot one concept: absent absolute.

Right/Left are different directions towards the same END.
One promises a final ORDER, the other a final VOID, the only way the absolute chaos can be conceptualized.
Life requires a balancing act...an acceptance of limbo (temporality being a measure of Flux).
A controlled one, if you wish...if it is in your nature to be attracted to this.
This balance is Apollonian..."Nothing in Excess".
Remeber the tightrope walker?

This balance is always shifting, swaying, a pendulum increasing in its swings...randomness. The fall is inevitable for a creature such as man.
This is part of the acceptance.
Dionysus laughs at Apollo....just as females laugh at a male's desire to estalbish control and order.



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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:16 pm

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So you played the Apollo and now you play the Dionysos? The Apollo suits you better. You admitted in one of your vids, that you find sex to be overrated. (A satyr would never say that!)
You see how we can only play a part, revealing our true nature bit by bit.

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Deism is not Theism. It is just a higher aiming than the common marxist material goals of wealth and status. When you talk of Hyperborea, it is also aiming higher. That is Platos Idealism.
Yes, but I know Hyperboprea is a metaphor and no palce that exists.
The ideal, hte idea, is another word for the absent absolute.
I think I've said that about a million times now.
It is a tool for orienting self.
The destination is never reached...it is only travelled towards.

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Man doesn't have a soul. But he is contained within a soul. (Or he has a lesser soul? I don't know exactly.)
Now this is a bunch of bullshit isn't it?
Spirit is a reference to the past.
Soul is a human abstraction with no real meaning. It can mean many things.
It can mean "spirit" as I defiend it...or "identity" or the crap Christians use it for, and you as well.
Identity is the issue.
What do you identify with? This determines your ideals.
If you identify with the herd or a segment of it or with the term "humanity" or "nation"....each has its own slant on identity.

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It's a top-down perspective.
I know...like all nihilistic religinos it claims to know THE TRUTH, and then tries to justify it.
I', a bottom>up thinker. I begin from weakness, ignorance, mortality, absence.

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That is a good question. I do have dreams and ideals. So I guess I do want to belong to an otherness. But I could rephrase it. I already do belong to an otherness. My heart and soul long for higher ideals, than I find anywhere represented in this material world. But this doesn't make me reject this world or nature. It just lifts my view above the common. I am more discriminatory about my choices in this world. Because my (upper) soul does not belong to this world. Or the upper soul I am also part of. However you want to put it. Like I said it's a little confusing/complicated.
How fortunate of you to be so special.

Confusion always tries to mask itself in the implication of compelxity. This is why the simple is not enuogh for you...you need the mysterious, to be flattered, and you hide your ignorance behind the excuse of "complexity".
If you cannot explain something then you probably do not understand it.
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Hyperfemininity ... So someone acts feminine and pretends to be all instincual and deeply rooted in nature? Well, you're "pisces", so am I, so we are deeply feminine. No need for pretentiousness there. Passiveness is our nature.

Ha!!!
And there it is...the feminine desire to absorb what stands in contradiction to it...levelling it down to sameness.

In modernity, or modern nihilism, it is all about "sameness".
A slight similarity erases mountains of differentiation.
So, even if clones are never perfectly alike it is the similarity which is focused on.
Then nature shows us how difference is all there is. Similarity is again, about patterns.
The mind seeks patterns and uses itself as the starting point.

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I guess Darwinism is really the essential point with you. This is a materialist worldview.
The typical lingo here.

Once more:
Matter is a form of activity which is less active in relation to the observing mnid.
Energy is what is more active in relation to the observing mind.

I live in reality not some mystical place of ideals and magic and certainties and wholes.

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That is a non-platonic materialist worldview. That's why today leftists are the foremost Darwinians. They too are materialists and embrace this worldview.
Who cares what you call it?
I'm with Heraclitus...your Plato and his Socrates were a symptom of Hellenic decline.

Do you see your nihilism in that hypermasculine ideal your feminine nature has given itself to?
I'm not with Evola, unless one speaks of utility and manipulating lesser minds.

This is where you show yourself:
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Well, you're "pisces", so am I, so we are deeply feminine. No need for pretentiousness there. Passiveness is our nature.
The fact that you think "pisces" says something or that it's nothing more than a sueprstition wanting to make the other comprehensible, is how unlike me you are.

The effects of weather on the infant is one thing, but genetics an entirely other thing.

Astrology is to psychology what alchemy is to chemistry, and magic is to science.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:57 pm

L. sounds like a Confucian Platonist

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:16 pm

A Confusion Platitudist?

I was hoping for some verbal sparring like baqck in the day in good old Sciforums...before the retards took over.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:33 pm

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You introduced me to the idea. I can relate to that too. It fits in with
Neoplatonism. The past is also the "above" in that theory. We come from the ideas above and strive back towards them.
There’s no mystique here.

It is what you would call “materialistic.”
The past is immutable because it cannot be changed; the past is determining because it is the sum of the present; the past is order because all is veering towards randomness/chaos…ergo the past is personified as God.
Spirit is another word for it. Essence is another....nature is yet another.

I am a wordsmith...I am immune to the power of words.

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I did explain it. As it is sufficient for me. This is spirituality. Not philosophy or science, where everything has to be explained or understood in detail. I've only known it as occult knowledge. It's the first time I ever explain it to someone "publicly" or in even at all. Read Plotin.
Calling it mysterious and complex is not a definition.
Christians define their God as well: omnipotent, triad of omniscience loveliness.

Saying something is complex does not make it so.Then again, everything is complex.
Saying that it is so does not mean you have understood it.
True understanding simplifies...see how Schopenhauer simplified with his Will and Representation.
Did not Heidegger simplify with his Dasein?
All concepts are simplifications/generalizations.
The more sophisticated ones can incorporate more data into their abstractions.

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Yes, which makes you an even higher idealist than Plato was. Why I am here. My Neoplatonism is more modern, more suited for the decline we're in. Less struggling with the world around me. More feminine. I admit all that. Why I am here: to learn.
Calling me an idealist is funny.
It’s like that dude who worshiped and idealized the idol-breaker himself, and saw no irony in it.
Even Heraclitus could not escape his mental limitations. He had to use metaphors like “river” and “fire” and “substance.”

If you consider the absence of an ideal, the IDEAL, then this is how you must understand it.
For me it is like an absent participant in a party. He or she can be described as anything, as anyone, precisely because (s)he is absent.
It is his/her/it’s very absence that makes it open to all conceptions.
And this is what all politics is about: the definition of the absent absolute.
What metaphor shall be used?
What imegery?
What effect should it have?

The weather comment was my own conception.
I struggled for some time with the idea behind astrology.
I could not reconcile my thought with the effects of distant stars in alignment.

Such a small force when compared to more closer heavenly bodies like our Star, the moon, the environment, the weather.
I concluded that the weather does, somewhat, determine the early upbringing of a child. The month of the year and its weather, is influential…but not as much as genetics and memetics.
In the latter case, the power of suggestion is powerful.
The need to find control in the chaos is powerful.
It is how faith-healing works.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyr Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:17 am

Why must I agree with everything someone says in order to recomend him and to consider him valuable?

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Why I try to relate to Socrates and Plato, these days.

Plato, who posited an unreal world of Forms, perfect and utterly removed from this one. Heraclitus, who posited the Flux, the imperfect, the mutable, the ever-changing.

He was attractive to the Christians because he slandered reality. He is attractive to you for the same reason.

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Am I decadent? Yes! (to a degree)

Am I feminized? Yes. (to a degree)

Am I weak? Yes. (to a degree)

"(to a degree)" is you flattering and consoling yourself. You are far more decadent, feminized and weak than you would like to suspect..... and it shows in your behaviour, your tastes and your philosophical pronouncements.

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Plato, who posited an unreal world of Forms, perfect and utterly removed from this one.

That's what metaphysics is. Memes, the world of ideas and ideals.

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Heraclitus, who posited the Flux, the imperfect, the mutable, the ever-changing.

Like so many eastern philosophers.

Metaphysics are mental models. They refer to the real. They are not real.

A phenomenon is not constantly switching between slightly different variants of itself during the process of causality.

The way in which one conceptualizes reality is a result of ones particular psychological disposition.

The flux implies uncertainty, impermanence, changeability, usurpation. To a certain mind, applying these concepts to the very fabric of reality itself, as metaphysics, is unpalatable.
We have a predisposition to order reality into Thing and Not-Thing, into the binary. These designations carry with them the idea of the perfect Thing, the Ideal as Real. Therefore, Plato suggested that his Forms represented perfect Ideals (mental models) in reality.... that the process of causality represented these Forms being switched out, interchanged for eachother as interactivity occurs.

In effect, it elevated the Ideal above the Real. It slandered Reality. That is why Christianity loved it. All of the various Semetic infections elevate the Ideal above the Real. That is their main common characteristic, over all their mutations they retain this first crucial premise.

A turning away from the world and reality; nihilism.

It is not a matter of the simplistic Order (masculine) versus Chaos (feminine) dichotomy that you seemed to have invented, or picked up from popular culture.

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And what is reality to you?

Turning the tables is very feminine.

I have a thread called the Infinite Regress of Causality in the Lyceum. That is my metaphysical position.

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I am immensely decadent and feminized. I make no illusions to myself about that. But what does it do to wallow in self pity. I put myself out there, like I am and hope to learn from the best.

Is this the confessional? Am I your priest? Will I redeem your soul?

Did you come here to be saved?

Look at this:

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Are you one of the best? Where have you challenged Satyr? Is he the apollonian male ideal? Or is he too feminized to some degree? (Chaotic? Not well ordered?)

Are "the best" those who have challenged Satyr? Supplanted him, maybe? Taken his place?
Become him?

You are being treated gently because you truckle well. But you are still a dog. A little puppy with big, brown pleading eyes.

It is comforting to believe in redemption, as it is in freedom. But you are what you are. Your past determines you, as you are the continuing manifestation of it, it's effect. This past is constantly being added to as you move in time. Your genetics set the range within which you are bound and your experiences set the place within this range that you occupy.

Do not look for a cure here.

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