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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:13 am

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Simplistic Overview of Hormones

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Oxytocin
Oxytocin creates intimacy, trust, and builds "healthy" relationships. It's released by men and women during orgasm, and by mothers during childbirth and breastfeeding. Animals will reject their offspring when the release of oxytocin is blocked. Oxytocin increases fidelity; men in monogamous relationships who were given a boost of oxytocin interacted with single women at a greater physical distance then men who weren't given any oxytocin.

Dopamine
Dopamine motivates us to take action toward goals, desires, and needs, and gives a surge of reinforcing pleasure when achieving them. Procrastination, self-doubt, and lack of enthusiasm are linked with low levels of dopamine. Studies on rats showed those with low levels of dopamine always opted for an easy option and less food; those with higher levels exerted the effort needed to receive twice the amount of food.

Serotonin
Serotonin flows when you feel significant or important. Loneliness and depression appears when serotonin is absent.

Endorphins
Endorphins are released in response to pain and stress and help to alleviate anxiety and depression. The surging "second wind" and euphoric "runners high" during and after a vigorous run are a result of endorphins. Similar to morphine, it acts as an analgesic and sedative, diminishing our perception of pain.
Along with regular exercise, laughter is one of the easiest ways to induce endorphin release. Even the anticipation and expectation of laugher, e.g., attending a comedy show, increases levels of endorphins.
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They correspond roughly to the four humours:

Oxytocin - Sanguine
Dopamine - Choleric
Serotonin - Melancholic
Endorphin - Phlegmatic

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:30 pm

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Hate = An extreme antipathy/rejection towards what we project as threatening our interest, goals, hopes, probabilities, as we imagine them and evaluate them.

Love = An extreme sympathy/acceptance towards what we project as beneficial to our interest, goals, hopes, probabilities, as we imagine and evaluate them.
When we speak of love we speak of an extreme form of sympathy/acceptance which may prove detrimental to our interests. This extreme form of sympathy is always associated with sex and its collateral effects, exposing its roots in lust: children, mates, parents, family.
The ancient Greeks divided love into two types:

Eros: the purest, most primal form of love, as it is necessary for parent/child bonding, and then for tribal bonding, based on sexual mutuality.
Erotic love is intuitive, instinctive, blind, primal...and females are more prone to suffer its effects.  
Agape: the more rational, cerebral, form of sympathy towards otherness, which may also bridge the sexual component. We also call this friendship.
Agape requires lucidity, rational judgement, awareness, and males are more prone to its effects.

The ancients rightly considered agape the stronger of the two, because the erotic is governed by natural cycles which are forever in flux, whereas agape was founded on pattern recognition that went beyond the immediate and the short cycles of nature.    

We always refer to a combination of the two when we use the term "love"...but in feminine cultures (memes) the erotic component is dominant, whereas in masculine cultures (memes), agape is dominant.

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Both, love and hate, require contact, some experience/habituation, with the phenomenon we then grow to hate or love.
We grow to love or hate, because both emotions follow from experience with the other, the phenomenon, and both are projections of possibilities: one threatening, based on previous behaviour, and the other beneficial, based on previous behaviour.
Other than parental love, which is a love of self in the other, or through the other, love of the alien other is based on these factors and can turn either way (even love of child or parent can become hateful):

Trust - Consistency in behaviour.
Usually associated with beneficial, to us, consistency.
Habituation breeds comfort with the otherness - even the hated ceases to be hated, though it remains threatening and a source of anxiety/fear.

Commonality - Shared interests, goals, motives, ideals...shared genes/memes.
We feel sympathetic and antipathetic towards what agrees, or does not, with our interests, goals, ideals.
This is also called compassion, as we project self in the others place and share in their misery. our feelings towards them are really feelings towards self if we were in their place.  

Reciprocity - Relating, (inter)acting, results in hierarchies based on give-and-take.
What is given may be resources (stored energies, including ideas) or sensations (emotions, feelings, energies of immediate contact).
When and if this exchange is balanced, in benefit, to both parties, and in accordance to each side's evaluations, then it is a mutually beneficial (inter)action, if not then the party feeling wronged will become negative, emotionally, towards the other.        

Fear = An extreme anxiety towards the known, what we hate, and particularly towards what we do not know, and have no experience with, not being able to decide if it is threatening or beneficial.
It precedes experience and is a preparatory stage.
We can also feel fear in regards to what we are sympathetic towards.
We anxiety/fear for it, we feel anxiety/fear at the prospect of losing it or it withholding its benefits from us - anxiety/fear of being hurt by it or, having our interests and our investments in it (hopes, dreams, dependencies) being destroyed.

Anxiety/Fear is the primary emotion, and it underlies all other emotions.
It is a preparatory (re)actions towards the known threat, and the unknown, potentially threatening.
Given that the universe is mostly threatening, not positive towards life, and given that even the known can become threatening, as interests, goals, motives, alter, anxiety is a basic emotion of caution towards what we have no control over, and so always feel vulnerable before it.

Empathy: Despite popular opinion empathy does not necessarily result in compassion.
Empathy is the projection of self in the other's position (we walk in their shoes or we imagine ourselves in their circumstances)...and so how we feel towards self is vital in determining if this projection will become sympathetic, or antipathetic...or if it will result in pity or disgust.
Empathy is a way of getting into an other's head...so as to determine their benefit/threat to us.
Compassion: To co-participate, share, in the other's passion.
Usually associated with need/suffering, as this is the experience of living.
We are compassionate towards an other living creature means that we share in its experience of life as need/suffering.
If we pity it, then this pity is a redirected self-pity.    

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Anxiety/Fear towards the known and unknown otherness must be dealt with before any contact can occur.
Lust is a form of madness, a sexually induced frenzy, which overpowers anxiety/fear; love is a lower grade form of lust, a self-numbing, so as to enable the contact required to make reproduction possible.
Where lust is a drumbeat, urging us to act, love is a steady hum.
This is more important when it concerns females, because it is the female who risks the most and suffers the most from sexual contact and reproduction...ergo lust/love are of great interest for the female sexual type.
It is only through this erotic lust/love that the female can reassure herself that her risks and costs will not go to waste and will not be taken advantage of.
If this did not occur then anxiety/fear would overwhelm the brain, and no contact, or proximity, would be possible.

Eros in females is short-lived, yet longer than it is in males...about as long as it takes for a human child to reach the level of some independence. If it does not then turn to agape then the sexual cooperation dissolves.
In nature this is necessary so that more genes are included into the gene pool - sexual promiscuity ensures just that.  

Nature evolved a chemical method to make the copulating process less stressful.
Then this same method evolved into the social instinct, the social method.
Cooperation is, essentially, a form of copulation...of intercourse - (inter)action.        
Therefore, to make these cooperative, social, methods of survival possible, the anxiety/fear component, already present, had to be managed.
Not totally eradicated, but diminished so as to make copulation/cooperation, more efficient - increasing synergy.





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"Bright interaction = social habits that foster sophistication, including agreeableness v. psychopathy, appropriate orientations to dominance and morality, and particular social evaluation styles.

Bright thinking = cognitive habits that foster imagination, including playfulness, growth v. fixed mindset, divergent and counter-factual thinking, openness to experience.

Bright feeling = emotional habits that foster regulation, including certain patterns of emotional granularity (the specific-ness of one’s emotional experiences), lability (tendency for mood to “swing” up and down), and frequency (rates of experiencing different emotions).


Level 2.

Mental health = an emergent property of bright feeling and interacting, as indicated by harmonious v. obsessive passion,  prudent “me” v. “us” moral decisions, confidence and identity strength, the construction of meaning in life and the experience of flow.

Mental strength = an emergent property of bright thinking and feeling, as indicated by mastery goals, deliberate practice, conscientiousness, constructive self-criticism, stress tolerance and grit.

Mental beauty = an emergent property of bright interacting and thinking, as indicated by innovation, humor, creativity, and superior performance.



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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Wed May 06, 2015 7:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Mon May 11, 2015 10:56 am

Emotions: Automatic (re)actions to stimuli.
Reason: Considered (re)actions to stimuli.

Eros: Automatic
Agape: Considered

Loathing: Automatic
Repugnance: Considered

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:07 am

My reason for calling fear/anxiety the mother of all emotions is this...

Consciousness evolved directed outwards, towards otherness.
From simple awareness, such one a plant has, it develops as a method of discriminating between patterns.
This is its primary function.
It need not perceive self, because it IS self...Life defined as the self-organizing pattern which is Never completed and always struggling to maintain itself, and then to expand whatever order it has created.
Self-Consciousness is a later development, where in the course of becoming aware of otherness, the organism begins to recognize self in relation to these others - the second level of cognition.
"I am not other - I am that which I am not"

Self-Knowledge proceeds from this simple premise, and this is why self-knowledge is a gradual process, not a given.
One must become aware of self, one is not automatically aware of self.

Sensations are not emotions.
Plants have sensations, they do not have emotions.

Emotion is the sophistication of sensations.
Emotions are automated (re)actions to stimuli.
They evolve, at first, to offer the organism the advantage of efficiency.

Fight/Flight is the precursor to emotional automatism.
The organism fight/flight response is triggered by a sensation.

The first function of emotion is in this automated response. The emotion is a preparatory stage, where a stimulation triggers the holding back of nervous energies in preparation for the fight/flight.
Instead of reacting, as with lower organism, the higher organism can prepare and not expend energies without first evaluating what the stimulation is.
This preparatory stage is the stage of anxiety...which may build up to the emotion of fear.

All other emotions evolve from this anxiety/fear combining with the awareness and evaluation of other. Need and anxiety manifesting in the varieties of automatic responses we know as emotions.
Anger is a reaction to fear, and it is no more than the fight response.

Later, when the heterosexual reproductive method evolved, a numbing mechanism had to evolve to make it possible.
Lust is this mechanism, where hormones affect the mind long enough to make the fight/flight mechanism go on standby.
In mammals we see this in the mating act itself.
Love is a further sophistication of lust...enabling the mother/child bond, and later the social instinct to evolve.
It acts as a chemical pacifier against the fight/flight mechanism and the anxiety/fear automated state of preparation.







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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:13 pm

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Feminine/Masculine = evolved types facilitating particular reproductive roles. The sex of the individual determines the quality of the will, and the dynamics, and vigor of the particular emotions.      
Surrender to emotions, whether positive/negative ones, is to surrender to automatic (re)actions; a giving-into the irrational automatic (re)actions to stimuli as these have evolved over time, is a giving-into the primal animal aspects of the human psyche.
Irrational in the sense that reason must make sense of them after-the-fact. In other words, the brain need not be engaged consciously during the (re)actions to the stimuli but can only process and evaluate the outcome after the (re)action has taken place.
This [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] method represents a primitive form of reasoning, as it automatically (re)acts to the world and then attempts to justify and understand the outcomes.
In its more cohesive form it projects the absent absolute, as a given, and then works backwards, trying to justify its validity.
Essentially the psyche motivated by primal authorizations, and non-specific needs (often rejected as factors), establishes an object/objective, and then (after-the-fact) justifies it using reason; often the last stage acquires an air of aloof, passionless, coldness (intellectualism), to mask its emotional, heated, roots with pretense.


This uncontrolled (re)activity to stimuli, presented as a modern idea(l) (spontaneity, emotionalism, altruism, nihilism) underscores the average modern's thinking, from Judeo-Christianity to secular humanism - with Marxism being an intermediate stage - and then sold as the height of human reasoning (enlightenment).






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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:04 pm

Stoics on Emotion: Passions
"Corruption afflicts the intellect because of falsehoods, and from (such a mind) there arise many passions and causes of instability. Passion itself is the irrational and unnatural movement of a soul or an excessive impulse."

Pain
Pain is an irrational contraction; its forms are pity, grudging, envy, resentment, heavy-heartedness, congestion, sorrow, anguish, confusion.
Pity is a pain (felt for someone who is suffering undeservedly;
grudging is a pain at the goods of other people;
envy is a pain at someone else having things which one desires oneself;
resentment is a pain at someone else too having what one also has oneself; [Emphasis my own]
heavy-heartedness is a pain which weighs one down;
congestion is a pain which crowds one and makes one short of room;
sorrow is a persistent or intensifying pain caused by brooding on something;
anguish is a laborious pain;
confusion is an irrational pain which gnaws at one and prevents one from getting a comprehensive view of one's current circumstances.

Fear
Fear is the expectation of something bad. These (forms) are brought under fear: dread, hesitation, shame, shock, panic, agony.
Dread is a fear which produces fright;
shame is a fear of bad reputation;
hesitation is a fear of future action;
shock is a fear arising from the appearance of an unfamiliar thing;
panic is a fear in conjunction with a hastening of the voice;
agony is a fear. (There is a lacuna here.)

Desire
Desire is an irrational striving, and these (forms) are ranged under it: want, hatred, quarrelsomeness, anger, sexual love, wrath, spiritedness.
Want is an unsuccessful desire and is as though it were separated from its object yet vainly straining for and drawn to it;
hatred is a progressive and increasing desire for things to go badly for someone;
quarrelsomeness is a desire concerned with a (philosophical) school;
anger is a desire for revenge on one who seems to have done an injustice inappropriately;
sexual love is a desire which does not afflict virtuous men, for it is an effort to gain love resulting from the appearance of beauty.
Wrath is long-standing and spiteful anger that just waits for its chance, as is apparent in these lines:
"For even if he swallows his resentment for today,
still he will retain his spite in the future, until it is satisfied. "
And spiritedness is anger just beginning.

Pleasure
Pleasure is an irrational elation over what seems to be worth choosing; under it are ranged enchantment, mean-spirited satisfaction, enjoyment, rapture.
Enchantment is a pleasure which charms one through the sense of hearing;
mean-spirited satisfaction is pleasure at someone else's misfortunes;
enjoyment is, as it were, a turning, a kind of incitement of the soul to slackness;
rapture is a breakdown of virtue.

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On Virtuous "Emotion"
There are also three good states (of the soul): joy, caution, and wish.
And joy is opposite to pleasure, being a reasonable elation;
and caution to fear, being a reasonable avoidance. For the wise man will not be afraid in any way, but will be cautious.
They say that wish is opposite to desire, being a reasonable striving.

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"They (the Stoics) say the wise man is also free of passions, because he is not disposed to them. And the base man is 'free of passions' in a different sense, which means the same as hard-hearted and cold."
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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:12 pm

The duplicitous Gratitude Quotient of reducing expectations to feel more gratitude, being introduced, are nihilistic reactions of escapism and from hyperinflated ideals and false optimisms…


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"Studies have showed that gratitude can indirectly influence physical health, as well. Those who have "dispositional gratitude" -- defined by one study as "part of a wider life orientation towards noticing and appreciating the positive in the world" -- are more likely to report good physical health, a propensity for healthy activities and willingness to seek help for health concerns.
In another study, New York teenagers who rated as the most grateful in their class -- defined by "having a disposition and moods that enabled them to respond positively to the good people and things in their lives" -- were less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. The benefits of having more gratitude also correlated with benefits to the heart among patients who had experienced heart failure.
Being grateful can even get you a better night's sleep. According to one study involving college students who instituted various methods for increasing gratitude, such as a gratitude journal, they worried less at bedtime and slept longer and better. In another study, adults in the UK (40% of whom had sleep disorders), reported that thinking about what they are grateful for at night led to falling asleep faster and staying asleep longer.

In his play "Two Trains Running," August Wilson wrote, "You walking around here with a ten-gallon bucket. Somebody put a little cupful in and you get mad 'cause it's empty. You can't go through life carrying a ten-gallon bucket. Get you a little cup. That's all you need. Get you a little cup and somebody put a bit in and it's half-full."…"

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:08 am

(Inter)Action expresses itself as attraction/repulsion.
Pattern relating to other patterns, or non-patterned dynamic processes – oscillations/vibrations.
Patterns can combine into congruencies which, over time, become stabilized relative to their attractive/repulsive relationships.
Attraction/Repulsion is a way of describing harmony/disharmony between two, or more patterns, or combinations of patterns, congruencies, perceives, externally as unities.
Pattern becomes the basis by which harmony/disharmony can be appreciated, attraction/repulsion being its dynamic expression.
In more complex congruencies, such as elements, all the way up to organic forms, this combination, having gone through a period of time where it has remained balanced, may produce combinations of participating patterns that develop/evolve into organs, with specialized roles within the unity.
One such combination we call the nervous system, manifesting in a mind/body expression. The nervous system becomes the point of contact, of (inter)activity between the congruity and the world, where it discovers itself, its own congruence, as another unity among many.
Founded on attraction/repulsion (inter)activity, emotions evolve to express this within the neurologically determined mind/body context.
We can separate emotions as erotic/thymotic in agreement with attraction/repulsion.
Erotic = attraction, degree of harmony with other.
Thymotic = repulsion, degree of disharmony dis-harmony with other.
Then we can separate both into their mind/body components, where body/physical represents a visceral, predetermined (re)action (genetic), expressing the relationship of harmony/disharmony, and mind represents, the ongoing, dynamic, (re)activity, attaining a sophisticated level, in humans, of abstraction (memetic) and the inclusion in the (re)activity of projected evaluations, in space/time. For a more sophisticated mind attraction/repulsion (re)activity incorporates more than the immediate; multiplying or dividing this (re)action according to this incorporation, and its projection in space/time.
Emotions are the automatic, predetermined (re)actions, expressing the body’s attraction/repulsion (inter)activity. Mind interprets, feels this attraction/repulsion, in the multiple combinations, relating to otherness, we call emotions. The other, the world, triggers emotions – an automated (re)action facilitating quick responses – efficiency. These automatic (re)actions, first impressions, can then be multiplied or divided, with each subsequent (inter)action.
Emotions is the way the mind interprets its automatic physical (re)actions, based on the metaphysical level of (inter)activity of attracting/repelling patterns.
Each emotion has both a physical (body) and a psychological (mind) context.
The mind developing after the body has found balance over a sufficient amount of time, making the mind an extension of the body.
Therefore the psychological reactions are founded upon physical ones, just as the physical is a product of a synthesis of patterns (inter)acting, producing a field of attraction/repulsion in space/time – a cognitive erotic/thymotic field of effect.
Mind discovers this after-the-fact, and simply multiplies or divides it, in accordance with its dynamic appreciations.
This may place mind in antithesis/antagonism in relation to the body’s automated (re)actions, its visceral attraction/repulsion, because the mind is malleable to the immediate environment, and it can incorporate into its evaluations more than immediate presence, the apparent.
Taking the nervous system, with the brain as its hub, as the vague point of division of mind from body, the synthesis of which we call self, we can categorize attractions/repulsion using the metaphors of eros/thymos, which represent attraction/repulsion as an expression of an organic congruence and how it relates, (inter)acts within world, and then we can sub-divide the erotic and the thymotic into two vaguely distinct expressions, of mind/body, which is another way of saying physical/psychological, the former being the foundation necessary for the latter to emerge.
If we study the latter, the mind, we can appreciate its dynamic flexibility, its (re)active speed, and its potential to evolve into a sophisticated form where it no longer simply (re)acts to the immediate, such as with animals, but can project and assimilate into its (re)actions more possibilities, in other words it can incorporate into its evaluations, its judgments, greater expanses of space/time, where space is defined as possibility, and time as movement within it.
Body is past/nature made present, and mind is projection of past into future.
What we call ‘I’ is the nexus of mind/body, past made present, and projected future converging.
Past/Nature = sum of all previous nurturing, experiences – what has been determined, the immutable.
Future = projected possibility based on the knowledge, understanding, evaluation of past/nature.
Present = point of convergence – dynamic (inter)activity, the real.
Self is placed here, as a vague point of reference.
Because mind must discover body, it is always in the immediate past appreciating, interpreting the body’s automatic (re)actions after-the-fact.
Learning, training, involves the mind’s flexible dynamism, adding to the past what will then determine the body’s subsequent automatic (re)actions.
The relationship between gene and meme is grounded in the mind’s intervention, imposing a new (re)activity upon the body.

Repulsion energies push away, so as to establish a distinct field of effect, that eventually combines into what we call life, and the erotic pulls in, becoming in living congruities the process of assimilation, we call feeding, and of and procreativity, we call sexual intercourse, and creativity, we call art, innovation, thinking.
Erotic/Thymotic as the necessary dance of attraction/repulsion (inter)activity.
We can now divide emotions, according to attraction/repulsion, into erotic/thymotic, and then sub-divide each within the contexts of mind/body.
What for body is felt as lust, is for the mind love.
What for the body is felt as disgust, for the mind is hatred.
What for the body is felt as anxiety, for the mind is fear.
What for the body is a preparation for explosive repulsion, holding in tension reserve energies, is for the mind anger.

Combinations of attractive/repulsive energies, placed within physical and mental contexts, produces the multiplicity of potential (re)actions we experience as emotions – each emotion being the mental interpretation of a physical, automatic, reaction the mind, then, must come to terms with, or learn to control, and to shape.

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:38 am

Envious Resentment & Retribution
People are more reluctant to accuse others of unsatisfied ‘love’ than they are of accusing them of a secret hatred, because love, founded on need, may expose an absence they share in, whereas hatred, founded on excess, may be an opportunity to express repressed energies, riding self of them.
The accusation of hatred most often comes from those harbouring it in themselves, taking every opportunity to relieve themselves of it.
If no opportunity arises then anything that produces ire in them will be used to unleash an accusation of retribution.

Envy has elements of both the erotic, and the thymotic, as it expresses an unsatisfied need the individual then comes to resent.
Love, producing hatred for the desired.
The one who causes envy is then held accountable for a motive.
Individuals burdened with ungratified desire will take every opportunity to accuse others of envy.
Resenting the ones who have produced this feeling in them, they will unload it as an accusation upon others, settling with the idea that their inconspicuous envy has been transferred into a conspicuous other.
Unable to find evidence of it they might accuse to incite a reaction they can then accept as evidence of the positive. Their own defensive denial of the feeling transferred to the other as a denial of an accusation.

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:01 am

Keeping in mind the first virtue, the highest in the order of rank, we should now consider the last, the lowest virtue, that of fear.

With a healthy, salutary fear—a fear which becomes virtue when subject to all the other, higher, virtues—we are still capable that awe of life which bespeaks true innocence, of recognizing all that is monstrous and terrible, all that is profound.

Does the truly courageous man no longer fear death? Death, which strips a man of all which he held most dear—life, his family, his pursuits... The death of such a man entails no sacrifice, no loss. An empty death for an empty life.

But we must remember always to put fear in its proper place: as the servant of life, never as its master. Through fear we must learn the true meaning and worth of sacrifice, for those things which are higher than the self, which the self is but an expression: those things for whose sake we fear, for it is in those things that the wisdom of fear is alive, and for those things that our noble caring causes us to rise above that fear and put it in its proper place.
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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:12 am

Fear, as the extreme end of anxiety, is the emotion that births all others, as compensating sublimating, subduing, controlling it.

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:26 am

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:05 am

Why does a cellular organism or a very primitive organism eat?
Hunger?

If energy reserves are low, there will be a mechanism which drives the organism to find and eat nutrients. - Hunger.

When the energy tanks are full, there will probably be some mechanism to stop eating. - Satiation.
Which eventually makes the organism refrain from eating even if nutrients are readily available.

It's likely that pretty much all organisms experience something which drives them to eat - Hunger. But not all will have developed something which triggers satiation. Satiation is something which is built on top of hunger and fear.

But can hunger (energy intake) be separated from fear hierarchically?
Can a simple organism have no fear but have hunger?
Can a simple organism have fear but no hunger?

If energy-sources are abundant then maybe hunger is not necessary because energy intake 'just happens'. But there is never an abundance for a pro-longed time, or at least eventually there is for some reason or another (growing competition) a lack of energy-sources.

We could say, life was born in a place with sufficient energy, like a womb or a nutrient rich ooze. Then life was put into a place where lack is being experienced which creates fear.
Hunger is kind of fear turned into a drive for action. Like the focused explosive release of emotional energy towards the thing which is being eaten.
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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:19 am

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Organisms hunger as a consequence of their continuous struggle to maintain unity within flux.
They also continuously oxygenate and hydrate, and are constantly healing damage to their external shell - skin or skeleton, or replacing damaged cells.

Need to replenish energies, is what we feel as hunger.
We lose energies both because our unity is imperfect, there is internal conflict - repulsion - and because of attrition, caused by interaction with other unities, or energies.
We are never completely satiated....but the need for nutrition decreases when our intake and storage is sufficient to meet our immediate requirements.
This is why we have a stomach and we store energy as fat.
Our energy requirements never stop - they simply fall out of consciousness when they are gratified.

Anxiety is associated with need, as it relates to other.
Hunger fills us with anxiety because our gratification is uncertain.
For an organism with the foresight of a human, anxiety is produced by the increase of need to suffering/pain, if it is not satisfied.
We suffer at the prospect of suffering.


In austere environment, natural ones, there si no stopping the consuming process because nutrition is not guaranteed. This is why life stored energy as fat, when it comes across a source of nutrition in excess of its immediate needs.
This is also why life is gluttonous and greedy.

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PostSubject: Re: Emotions Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:42 am

Blowbacks are embedded in Selective Memory.

A state can act provocatively, setting out to damage a whole geomass out of greed, jealousy, or under the hunger to fulfill any romanticist ideal presented as "raison" or the most "objective course of action", and blot this out, fashioning its image of itself as "exporter of good-will", "bringer of democracy and freedom", etc.

Under such Selective Memory, and the comfortable narrative it shelters itself in to be able to esteem itself, any retaliation and blowback would be perceived and accused of romantic idealism or envy or hatred operating in the latter's part.
The Romanticist's attachment to visions it has cherished, drives the instinct to remold everything else in its path, that appears as a dis-illusion and less-than-ideal. Dis-satisfied love and disguised self-hatred become selective memory, always en/countered.

Its always easy to admit to small lies when we never have to own up and face the bigger self-deceits we tuck away safely...

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