Can a man be too independent?

Can a man be independent to such a degree, that a woman doesn't want to have a relationship with him?
Another way I could present the question: Do a woman feel a strong need to be wanted and needed?

I know some couples that live relatively healthy lives and according to traditional gender roles. When I visit such couples, I notice how the female is very delighted to do little things such as prepare the food or take care of the man if he is having a cold or a flu.

I read once about a guy who did boxing. In boxing and other martial arts it's often recommended that the fighters abstain from sex weeks or even months before fights. This is said to be because having a lot of sex decreases your motivation to succeed. So this guy said in an interview that he has had a couple of long-term girlfriends who both have left this guy, because those girls thought that "your boxing is more important than I am, you are so full of yourself, you don't even want me anymore!"

Ever see Rocky the movie? Even in that, Rocky's girlfriend (or was it a wife already at that point?) is trying to impress her willingness to sex, and Rocky says: "Hey honey, you know there can't be love before the fight!" Rocky's girlfriend stands next to his partner no matter how frustrated she is. But in real life, it seems that women actually want to be feeling that they are of some help, or that they are wanted for something. So there must be something concrete that they can do, not just "symbolically standing by her husband in any situation".

There is a Finnish TV format called "the riches and the penniless". In the show, a rich person is switching places with a poor person. They switch their weekly budgets and they switch their living places. In one episode, there was a 50-year old multi-millionaire man, who was depressed that the only family he has left is his mother, and how he would want to have children and a wife and such, but this just never happened. He even made an attempt to find a woman to give birth to his child via Facebook. He got 600 applicants from women. Here's a news article about him: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] it's in Finnish, but you can see a picture of him. So he's not extra-ordinarily unattractive (though I'm by no means saying that he is a delight to the eyes of most females) and he has money to throw away (in the TV show he gave 30 000€ to the poor old lady he was switching places with). Why can't he succeed in what he wants? Why can't he get a wife and a family? From what I saw on the TV show, this guy is an absolute control freak. I think he even said something like "I don't want anybody to do anything for me" and this was very apparent when I saw his house and his living-style. Would a woman want that? "I don't trust your abilities to prepare food so why don't you just sit there while I'm doing it myself", I think this guy would say to a woman.

Would it actually be beneficial to be needy to some degree, as a man if you want to have a family? If you are too strong, too intelligent; never sick, never weak, never poor, never in need of anything; if you organize your time and effort almost perfectly, would a woman want you? Wouldn't a woman want to have some sense of purpose (being there for his man), something that she is needed for, to some other things than just having a baby as well?

I think Schopenhaer said something like: "A woman's blessing is to have a man who knows what he wants". I understand that meaning that a man can give a woman some purpose in life, if not perhaps an actual self-esteem, but something like that? But wouldn't that manifest in a way that a woman is actually expected to do something, no matter how small and insignificant, instead of her just looking pretty for the man?

Independence = freedom.
Freedom = power.
Se free-will: quantity and quality of options makes an individual indifferent to a particular option.
God = absolute freedom - indifferent. A god, as described in Abrahamism - would need/desire nothing. This would make it indifferent to all. Love, is a expression of need, and so contradicts this god's absoluteness.

Females are attracted to power.
Indifference comes across as confidence.
Women are attracted by bad-boys - alpha males - because they have options. Ironically, this makes them indifferent to them, in particular.
This does not dissuade them, for they have evolved to be attracted to power greater than their own - hypergamy.
They will procreate with the bad oy, then seek out the nice guy to help them raise the offspring - reproducing with the good guy only to keep him around. Options are always in paly.

Connected to the other thread...and so they seek a male's weakness to manipulate him, or to keep him around as long as they want him around, and then to drive him away when they no longer need him.
Even an alpha has his weak points.
No absolutes.
Power is never omnipotent....it is always relative...as if freedom - free-will - as is awareness, knowledge, understanding....everything.
So the sexual options of male are relative to a female's sexual options.

Illiterate wrote:

Can a man be independent to such a degree, that a woman doesn't want to have a relationship with him?
Another way I could present the question: Do a woman feel a strong need to be wanted and needed?

I know some couples that live relatively healthy lives and according to traditional gender roles. When I visit such couples, I notice how the female is very delighted to do little things such as prepare the food or take care of the man if he is having a cold or a flu.

A woman longs to belong to a man. Masculine is order, of reason. Feminine is chaos, of nature. Her power lies in her ability to align herself with masculine power, to merge with it, foster it as much as possible, and the only way to do it, is for her to master her talent to be submissive, receptive, cooperative, pleasing; all the attributes that ease male aggression and encourage it to be kept at bay, and thus more giving of itself to her. Feminism completely corrupts this harmony.  Making males more defensive and adverse towards females, more self-protected. The female now becomes a threat to him, when it is anything but.

But even dysfunctional modern feminist women will still express these submissive impulses, albeit in extreme ways. Such as wanting to be sexually dominated, used, or abused.

Illiterate wrote:

I read once about a guy who did boxing. In boxing and other martial arts it's often recommended that the fighters abstain from sex weeks or even months before fights. This is said to be because having a lot of sex decreases your motivation to succeed. So this guy said in an interview that he has had a couple of long-term girlfriends who both have left this guy, because those girls thought that "your boxing is more important than I am, you are so full of yourself, you don't even want me anymore!"

Ever see Rocky the movie? Even in that, Rocky's girlfriend (or was it a wife already at that point?) is trying to impress her willingness to sex, and Rocky says: "Hey honey, you know there can't be love before the fight!" Rocky's girlfriend stands next to his partner no matter how frustrated she is. But in real life, it seems that women actually want to be feeling that they are of some help, or that they are wanted for something. So there must be something concrete that they can do, not just "symbolically standing by her husband in any situation".

Like Nietzsche said, man is made for war, and woman for the recreation of warriors. Thus, the will to pit oneself against adversity, in conflict, in danger, to take risks, requires focus, discipline and sacrifice. Male power lies in discipline. Discipline of mind, spirit or body. How well he is capable of disciplining the weaknesses of his will, will determine the quality of his character, and how much power he cultivates in himself. So, man is always at war with himself, his desires and sensuality.

Regarding that movie scene in Rocky. Did you also notice that Adrian became huffy and childishly temperamental when Rocky rebuffed her advances? Shaming the masculine, is how the female asserts her own will over it. This is the other side to her nature he must resist, and keep it tamed, by never allowing his own will to be challenged or subordinated to her. That which has power, will always face that which tries to undermine it for its own benefits.