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OhFortunae

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PostSubject: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2016 3:05 pm

It will be for my upper arm so maybe I think too much already about details, but for my chest may as well work out.

It revolves around this:

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I have something in my mind that has the Ægishjálmur on the forefront but inter-connected with the tree, not necessarily this one, but alike. And the ending points not too abstract.

Around the top circling all the runes and on each side, alike a snake at the tree's roots written 'Hyperborea(n)' -- Ὑπερβόρε(ι)οι


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I spoke a friend just now and she explained me that:

Ὑπερβόρεια = country
υπερβορειοι  = people


So I need to contemplate which one to choose as more to refer my heart as Hyperborea(n), or to the land.
And of course, if someone here speaks Greek, just asking, the opinion and the exact grammer (I see one has dots one does not have) and hand written.



About the tree, it might as well resemble living 'person' or bigger symbol:

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A tatooist with who I discussed this and will continue to do so (and will eventually design and ink my body), gave a image as example in which the rune(s) may be in the centre of the tree itself

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But such a tree would mean a big tattoo so need less details, he suggested to think of a Viking style tree (art) or a Scandinavian tree and as the very first image shows, the helmet-rune looks as if it is apart of the tree itself.



Or the ring resembling a (mythical) animal's face, or eyes radiating..
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The helmet-rune may as well have other runes than Algiz, but a rune like Jera I would not know how to connect it.
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Here some other tattoos:

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Eventually, the bold text relates the most to what it most probably should come to look like, from words and example images into an actual design.

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."


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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2016 4:23 pm

A word of advice.

The more powerful and complicated the symbols/runes you carve on yourself, you are announcing yourself vulnerable too. I mean to say, a fortress that is heavily guarded with swords on all 4 or 6 sides like the aegish is practically an invitation and advert that something worthy of being robbed or invaded is there. These runes have a life, a "mode" - way of seeing, and a history of its own. You need to be careful. Carving complex forces can shatter your 'vessel' rather than protect. The same goes for a name too. I think I have said this before,,, give a child a powerful name when its spirit is delicate, and its destiny usually turns out the opposite of the name it bears. It 'flips'. Some with the name meaning brave would end up being a coward…

There are many noble paths/virtues - each rune with its own significance…, but its best to understand your self, your totem animal, favourable element, the weight of your name, your family standard, your personal philosophy, and things like that before you commit to one. Its a long meditation.

On the other hand, some people are purely instinctual and thinking only blurs the clarity of their quick vision and the clear voice that speaks to them, but then, be prepared to go where it takes you.

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I had shared these with Brian when he had wanted some celtic/viking ideas.

The first letter is both the Viking ship as well as like Thor's hammer:

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Celtic one signifying a raven:

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Celtic infinity symbol:

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Dragon armour:

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Jan 04, 2016 5:39 pm

Thank you, I am still contemplating but the less I think the more I gravitate towards the concept that has grown in my mind; maybe no circling Runes except Jera, but the Greek element should be in there to my feeling. And maybe the tree trunk partly made by these Viking / Celtic knots, though even that may have to symbolize something.

Maybe the roots that grow upward to the trunk, the very start of the tree's foot may be the ValKnut, for all life will fall eventually, the sacrifice is my own concern.

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Then the tree itself - I need to find some good representations

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Maybe as Thor's Hammer:

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And the top as antlers:

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It is growing in me; though indeed, next to HyperBorea - maybe something of my own.
But I have too much to 'choose' and the only thing I feel connected to are the representations of Fate, or my own poetry.
A sentence I always say is ''Schlaf Gesund 'Sterb' (dialect) Gesund'' (sleep healthy die healthy), whether one understands or not; but not for my body. I have time to search within or in texts and values I relate to.



All careful guidance welcome.

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyWed Jan 06, 2016 5:50 am

OhFortunae wrote:
The helmet-rune may as well have other runes than Algiz, but a rune like Jera I would not know how to connect it.

At the base of the world tree, the Ygg, is said to be the three norns "laying the law", weaving the layers of past, present and future. The fates. Jera is the looming of a new cycle, that the norns weave. That is how you connect.

See Paul Bauschatz's must read book on scribd: The Well and the Tree.

If I come across some designs like what you have in mind, I'll share it here later.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyWed Jan 06, 2016 6:22 am

Thank you, maybe Jera below indeed.

I already spoke to the person who will make the design based upon images I gave, description and a shitty sketch I made and will try to do better.

I had it as this:

Roots / veins (but maybe replaced with Jera)
ValKnut as foot of the tree;
the tree trunk itself as pictured with viking / celtic knots
The leaveless branches (I don't know if I can integrate antlers)

And so in totality it should resemble a bit Mjolnir;

In between the branches, or on top, Aegishjálmur (maybe with 1 Tyr rune)
Hyperborea in Greek (unknown place)

All together of symbols what the tree shall represent:
Valknut
Yggdrasil
Mjolnir

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySat Jan 09, 2016 11:51 am

Lyssa, do you have the exact symbolism and meaning of these designs?


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Attestation of Vegvísir in the Huld Manuscript.

The Huld Manuscript is the name given to the book of collected Icelandic staves and spells, compiled by Geir Vigfusson in the 19th Century. Huld is the name of a völva in the Ynglinga and Sturlunga Sagas, who practiced Seiðr magic. A later Icelandic tale by Snorri Sturlusson tells us that she was a mistress of Odin, and mothered two demi-goddesses by him, who were named Þorgerðr and Irpa. If we look at the etymology, “Huld” means “Hidden” or “Secret” and is derived from Old Norse “Hulda”. This root is seen in many other words in Germanic lore.

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So far a sketch based upon what I want. The tree itself should be more broad, still thinking about shades or maybe the lines having some colour (the Helmet's lines in cold blue maybe?), the branches still thinking about and the valknut is still up for design (and jera is in the middle of the helmet and the words I still have to place somewhere):

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySat Jan 09, 2016 1:35 pm

OhFortunae wrote:
Lyssa, do you have the exact symbolism and meaning of these designs?


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Attestation of Vegvísir in the Huld Manuscript.

The Huld Manuscript is the name given to the book of collected Icelandic staves and spells, compiled by Geir Vigfusson in the 19th Century. Huld is the name of a völva in the Ynglinga and Sturlunga Sagas, who practiced Seiðr magic. A later Icelandic tale by Snorri Sturlusson tells us that she was a mistress of Odin, and mothered two demi-goddesses by him, who were named Þorgerðr and Irpa. If we look at the etymology, “Huld” means “Hidden” or “Secret” and is derived from Old Norse “Hulda”. This root is seen in many other words in Germanic lore.

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So far a sketch based upon what I want. The tree itself should be more broad, still thinking about shades or maybe the lines having some colour (the Helmet's lines in cold blue maybe?), the branches still thinking about and the valknut is still up for design (and jera is in the middle of the helmet and the words I still have to place somewhere):

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Note that the the middle bar in the West stave of your design is at equal length, but acc. to the script, the middle one is supposed to be slightly shorter than the ones on either side:

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The knots of the tree-trunk make 4 diamond holes which could be shaped into many jeras.
It becomes a lively tree.

And the East stave of your design already has the "3E" KT symbol - like the logo on HH facebook page, which is the Delphic/Hyperborean symbol already.

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So you have "Know Thyself" and "Path-finder" or not to lose one's way coming together, and you may not need to explicitly write "hyperborea". But if you want to, you could draw a circle like this and write the ten alphabets around the circumference:

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Originally the aegishjalmur was a sigil of awe because the Hagal was the most elemental storm rune and extending it from 6 to 8, you could accommodate 3 runes of the 3 rune rows along all its 8 arms. It contained the entire futhark.
Sleipnir, the 8-legged horse is the psychic force of the storm god Odin riding between both the worlds and can be thought of the serpent force of "kundalini awakening" which finally opens between the eyes and is worn there:

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"Freya Aswynn offers one final twist. She tells of two myths relating the origins of mankind. The first is from the Germania by Tacitus and tells of the god 'Mannus' or Mannaz (most likely Mani, son of Tyr, not to be confuse with Mani of the Moon) fathering three earthborn sons who fathered in turn the three West Germanic tribes Irminons, Istaevons, and Ingaevons, roughly "priests, warriors, farmers". The second is the story 'Rigsthula' from the Poetic Edda. In this story, the god Rig (Heimdall) begets a son each to three earthly women which lead to three classes; thralls, peasants and warriors.  This may give further significance to the triple cross lines. As triple amplifiers of energy up the ladder of consciousness from farmer to warrior to priest/mystic, they are an indication that one may find one's way in one level of wisdom, the literal physical world, but still have yet to find it in a higher and less obvious sense of the higher mind, the fylgia."

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In the saga, it is a dragon/serpent that wears it and guards the treasure like a fortress till it transforms into the hero who 'slays' it, and Thorsson says:

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"The most famous appearance of the ægishjálmr is in Volsungasaga chapter 18:

Enn mælti Fáfnir: "Ek bar ægishjálm yfir öllu fólki, síðan ek lá á arfi míns bróður, ok svá fnyýta ek eitri alla vega frá mér í brott, at engi þorði at koma i nánd mér, ok engi vánm hræddumst ek, ok aldri fann ek svá margan mann fyrir mér, at ek þættumst eigi miklu sterkari, en allir váru hræddir við mik."

Sigurðr mælti: "Sá ægishjálmr, er þú sagðir frá, gefr fám sigr, því at hverr sá, er með mörgum kemr, má þat finna eitthvert sinn, at engi er einna hvatastr."

[And Fáfnir said, "An ægishjálmr I bore up before all folk, after that I brooded over the heritage of my brother, and on every side did I spout out poison, so that none dared come near me, and of no weapon was I afraid, nor ever had I so many men before me, as that I deemed myself not stronger than all; for all men were greatly afraid of me."

Sigurd said, "Few may have victory by means of that same ægishjálmr, for whoever comes among many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all."]

Linguist and runologist Stephen Flowers notes that even though the references to the Helm of Awe in the Poetic Edda describe it as a physical thing charged with magical properties, the original meaning of the Old Norse hjálmr was “covering.” He goes on to theorize that:

This helm of awe was originally a kind of sphere of magical power to strike fear into the enemy. It was associated with the power of serpents to paralyze their prey before striking (hence, the connection with Fáfnir). … The helm of awe as described in the manuscript [the Galdrabók] is a power, centered in the pineal gland and emanating from it and the eyes. [In Aristotle and Neoplatonism, sources for much medieval magic, the spirit connects to the body via the pineal gland, and the eyes emit rays of spiritual power.] It is symbolized by a crosslike configuration, which in its simplest form is made up of what appear to be either four younger M-runes or older Z-runes. These figures can, however, become very complex."

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(War and dance branched off from pretty common origins, but that which keeps you steady in war, may keep you stiff in dance… how to balance that is something you need to think about for yourself. Although between the valknot and the hyperborea, the storm and the sun, you may already have the necessary balance.)

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySat Jan 09, 2016 1:54 pm

Incredible thanks!
I have good homework and meditation to do.

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySat Jan 09, 2016 3:04 pm

How people approach the issue of getting a tattoo reflects the quality of their mind.
Tattoos have long-term consequences and so people who don't give the idea of getting a tattoo an appropriate amount of thought are likely to be dull of the mind because they are unaware of seriousness of such a decision, which they might regret in future.

The kind of tattoos representing one's heritage/philosophy, is also the kind I am considering.

The patterns I noticed:

People with colored tattoos are usually simpletons obsessed with their hobby/subculture.
People with a single-color tattoo tend to show a bigger variety of personalities, depending on the tattoo.
Women with tattoos are usually promiscuous and liberal, and I avoid them like plague. Along with colored hair, it's a 99% certain red flag.




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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 10, 2016 4:46 pm

She sent this today on my fb, if I would agree with the design; I think if the contrast would be too big in regards with knots, it will be ugly. Nothing special, though maybe it is possible to have other knots - and maybe the points to be integrated into the whole.

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Jan 11, 2016 7:55 pm

Arbiter of Change wrote:
How people approach the issue of getting a tattoo reflects the quality of their mind.
Tattoos have long-term consequences and so people who don't give the idea of getting a tattoo an appropriate amount of thought are likely to be dull of the mind because they are unaware of seriousness of such a decision, which they might regret in future.

The kind of tattoos representing one's heritage/philosophy, is also the kind I am considering.

The patterns I noticed:

People with colored tattoos are usually simpletons obsessed with their hobby/subculture.
People with a single-color tattoo tend to show a bigger variety of personalities, depending on the tattoo.
Women with tattoos are usually promiscuous and liberal, and I avoid them like plague. Along with colored hair, it's a 99% certain red flag.

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Just look at the comment section - so obsessed, not doing their research, having no connection to their past, having Jewish names and Christian souls with some made-up symbol (from the movie) little to do with actual depictions or possible interpretation. And the thing what bothers me, is that they ask for ''high resolution pictures'' in stead of trying to make their own sketches. Hell, my drawing is not nice at all, but the person who works it out bases it upon my design, my description and my vision (but from the past, so no B-original intention, what is an oath without ritual, that is, the past of transferring).

These people use symbols as movie inspired Hollywood decorations without value, just as ''something nice to get'', wife and hubby ''connective symbols'' which does not touch a single feeling, principle or own design that would indicate ''they stay together'', just as worthless as a random Modern puting a ring on the finger of the one (s)he is about to marry, only reminding their oath, showing others they have taken it (thus are possessed) - but the oath is nothing if the spirit is corrupt already, the ring is not more oath than a burger from mcdonalds is actual food.

It has no value, it is no oath, nothing to remind the spirit to strive or take a stand, for others wil recognize and identify, closing doors and you have to build your own doorway, it all gets lost in ''this is just another symbol among the many'' mentality.

That is the reason for intended mongrelization, a sampling of different human parts (pasts), different symbols to sample from as will be the reasoning for tranny-mongrels (I am this and that and such, I am ''humanity united''); a tranny-Frankenstein horde easy to manipulate and satisfy through past-less symbols and degenerating the superior (the hatred is Obvious from the dark hominid hordes, having disdain for our women yet desiring them).


I did it again.. I feel like writing pages full about mongrel-trannies since the situation in the West..

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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


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A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyTue Jan 12, 2016 1:37 pm

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Fenrir Hugin Mugin Jormungandr Yggdrasil
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Which is beautiful, but I think that Yggdrasil should only have three main roots and this one has four. (another user also pointed this out)

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I like the Neil Dring stuff. His whole page is here;
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyFri Jan 15, 2016 12:08 pm

I did not like the former design that much so I suggested to take the knots of a picture Lyssa showed; the right side of the blue O part.

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I also had in mind the Vegvisir to be cold blue, though she will send multiple sketches over time, this is the first one where the bottom parts are blue; second sketch wil be black / grey; and so far I have kept the Jera in the centre of the Vegvisir.

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyFri Jan 15, 2016 1:40 pm

A bigger variation of that shows more detailing, where the words justice, honour, and something else on the right I cant read is inscribed:

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Another:

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Regarding the jera, the right symbol does not form a proper square bracket like that [what you have is Ingwaz, not jera], but the left one is higher than the right one that is slightly lower, so it leaves the shape of an "S" in between:

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or you could use tree trunks with reverse jeras:

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You'll be happy to know, given your birth month, the NW stave of the vegvisir has even the hint of the pluto:

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I thought this too was a good idea for the vegvisir alone, as the 'still eye of the storm', from which there is a swirl, the birth of a galaxy amidst the chaos as the raging fire of the dragon, that looks like a wave-flux even, or reading vice-versa, flux ending in an order, a path...

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The dragon fafnir says who wears the helm of awe is invincible - which Wagner incorporated into his Ring trilogy.
And so it is also for Tolkien's magical ring and the power it confers, and the pertinent lines of the poem:

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king."

It basically summarizes all the four elements of your tattoo - the ygg or the ash tree, the oath of the crownless king, renewal of jera, and the path-guide of the vegvisir.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyFri Jan 15, 2016 2:26 pm

Thank you very much, I can say already without your input I would never be satisfied to ink it; though the Valknut I find good, too many details will make it unclear and too contrasting with the tree.

Jera is indeed too symmetrical opposed to be the cycle it represents.
Within the tree trunk it might work out, especially the example you gave with the knots, or else the trunks itself, indeed..
The reverse has no impact on the meaning, a cycle; but in regards with tradition, would it matter much?

Huginn and Muginn are missing, but not for long, I see them return on the branches.


It does not resemble that much of Yggdrasil shaped within Mjlonir representation, but that was my intent 'Valknut, Yggdrasil, Mjolnir (as long it won;t bee to Obvious, thus abstract), Jera. And now too the Ravens (on a branch, I do not think to have them separated will be good)

The oath, besides mine as I wrote earlier, I do not know of 'the crownless king'.


Lastly, in the Huld manuscript, beside it is a square - the North-South and West-East staves, the wholly length, are shorter than the others..

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyFri Jan 15, 2016 4:26 pm

No, I meant the pic. shows jera links in reverse which you could make it as proper jera tree-trunk if you want, or just adjust the length of jera in the vegvisir as per your original.

Of Odin and the twin ravens with beaks, this is an interesting idea:

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The mjolnir and the tree together with two ravens and valknot at bottom, I just found these now:

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySat Jan 30, 2016 3:37 pm

Just finished the tattoo, I came at 14:00 and left at 21:15; but the first two hours was about adjusting the design, discussing the colour and shading, the vigviser resembling the original from the huld manuscript while keeping the contours of another, putting two ravens as lines on the branches. After the many weeks it ended up much better, the spontaneous 'just do it', than any sketch and other intents.
They wished to film big parts of the process and me giving an interview what I thought about the tattooist, the help given and about my design and the meaning (though kept it short, after the scene I started to actually explain in more details as the person was interested). But the person wished us to pretend, after all was done, that we were about to start while the outcome was just done, so some tired face and voice does not come across that convincing I think.

Will share the photo's another day.

In-credible thanks to Lyssa.


The girl who helped me along the process and eventually got the honour of fulfilling, proclaimed multiple times how she was happy and enjoyed inking it - of course since she was active herself in making the design possible and it ended up looking more beautiful.

In contrast to 4, 5 British or American hipster girls entering around 15:00 or so; one looked like a wwigger, another was just beyond fat, one was some indo and the one getting the tattoo had a ugly face (all of them though), short hairs in a punky manner, idc (though look at me) clothes. They entered, wanted a tattoo of some flower on her hand, and got out after it was done; meanwhile talking about Starbucks and shit.
A ''let's do something outrageous'' moment for conformists, impulsive, ''trendy'' - meaningless.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 3:03 am

Awesomeness. Anticipating the pics.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 12:46 pm

Valkunt, Yggdrasil (/ ''Mjolnir''..kinda), Huginn and Muninn, Vigwiser and Jera as cyclic centre in the background of the Pathfinder.
Though better pics (angle) I await for the tattooist to share.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 2:21 pm

The two perching birds especially and the multidirectional, all encompassing branch network!

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 2:54 pm

That (to incorporate within branches / antlers) was my fundamental intent from which grew the totality of the design that came to exist in my mind of incorporating a symbiotic whole of valuable symbols, bit by bit till the final outcome. Though tired eventually of 'thinking what next or what to adjust'; we just started and during the process I gave some directions on what colour, thickness (and she recommended), where to shade and also let her free to see how much of this and where.
The branches grew from her own improvision and that of my skin (few birthmarks).

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 4:58 pm

It came together rightly. Is the artist in Georgia?

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptySun Jan 31, 2016 6:05 pm

Yes, but it is not about á specific artist, it is about good guidance and having a well thought out design, mine developed over the course over more than a month with help of Lyssa regarding the value and research.

The worst thing that could have happened I think would be if I was assigned another tattooist who would have not been so patient with me and my constant changing and adjusting and discussing of the concept - or having their own plan in mind distorting my view. She was the halt to my over-detailment, wrong colours and being genuine - though I pushed her relating to the S stave and NNW stave regarding the minor details during the process, just do it, make it more thin so it will fit.
And she herself, the bottom triangle of the Valknut, wiped out the lines to adjust it into a better position.
But if I was a dull person, or not fully following, directing and discussing during the process, it would have been a bad outcome. It was simply a good symbiotic co-operation.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Feb 01, 2016 11:28 am

Congrats Fortunae; it looks splendid and just like you pictured it.
Now you are officially armoured…

I hope you'll become the path-guide to many a one lost and wandering...

Much good luck to you.

And thanks for sharing those wonderful links.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyMon Feb 01, 2016 11:56 am

Thank you.
Armour attracts those who wish you dis-armoured (symbols carry emotions for the weak and miss-informed), just as you described by metaphor of a well guarded castle.

I have to see what becomes of me in the coming months of important life decisions to make..

Heil upon you too.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyTue Feb 16, 2016 3:35 am

Arbiter of Change wrote:

The patterns I noticed:

People with colored tattoos are usually simpletons obsessed with their hobby/subculture.
People with a single-color tattoo tend to show a bigger variety of personalities, depending on the tattoo.
Women with tattoos are usually promiscuous and liberal, and I avoid them like plague. Along with colored hair, it's a 99% certain red flag.

Modern feminist tattooing has to do with body-ownership. Filling the body up with art or symbols, with no 'naked/virgin' skin is psychologically a kind of territorial ownership and preventing any man 'impressing' himself upon you. You deny him the right to project his desires which is largely visual, and the male need to possess, like an author would project on blank paper. In feminist theory, writing, signatures, etc. are all acts of aggression/oppresion.

Once done, this can be read either way. A man may find a self-owned woman and her resistive spunk attractive, like an art come alive and interacting, as probable as, finding her self-branding identity-exhibitionism and self-commodifying standing-'for'-something highly unattractive, an excess baggage - tedious, complicating.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyTue Feb 16, 2016 3:06 pm

Lyssa wrote:
A word of advice.

The more powerful and complicated the symbols/runes you carve on yourself, you are announcing yourself vulnerable too. I mean to say, a fortress that is heavily guarded with swords on all 4 or 6 sides like the aegish is practically an invitation and advert that something worthy of being robbed or invaded is there. These runes have a life, a "mode" - way of seeing, and a history of its own. You need to be careful. Carving complex forces can shatter your 'vessel' rather than protect.

Especially true if the design is as simple as a swastika.  I imagine laws in Europe prevent OhFortunae from even considering a swastika. The Trinacria is cool though, same idea, and that can't be illegal to wear if it's on the Sicilian flag.

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PostSubject: Re: Tattoo Tattoo EmptyTue Feb 16, 2016 5:06 pm

The Valknut is easy enough to be identified as ''a symbol used by 'White' (I am from ethnic branches maybe) supremacieeeeeets'' - but I keep it with different intent and actual meaning instead of ''muh nice symbol / muh white power'' without understanding and appreciation and historic link.

The swastika is not hard to put on your skin, it will just be hard to be ''accepted'' anywhere if it is on a visible place. Or rather, you will be a walking target for exclusion and hatred. In Germany you may go to prison for it (if showing deliberately).

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