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PostSubject: Metapolitical Seasons Metapolitical Seasons EmptyTue Mar 04, 2014 5:14 am

Im not sure if this comparison has been brought up yet but i was thinking about the 2 forms of masculinity and femininity that Satyr mentioned in his "metapolitics" video and how it applies to the Spenglerian Seasons in the west's decline...

Spring-(Control over self, Hellenism, Paganism, Balanced Asceticism) Birth/Life
Summer-(Control over other, Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism, God King) Infection
Fall-(Denial, Escapism, Hedonism, Materialism, Rejection of World, Extreme Relativism) Sickness
Winter-(Fatalism, Self-Pity, Denial of Self) Death

I know some of these intertwine but in general it seems to make sense to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Metapolitical Seasons Metapolitical Seasons EmptyTue Mar 04, 2014 6:03 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] youtube channel is the extent of my knowledge on the matter. History never repeats, but it does echo. Therefore look at it as a metamorphical pattern. Certain forms of paganism are unlikely to show up again unless technology starts to break down. Think most religions are forever doomed, only their significance is incredible because of the ideological & cultural footsprints they leave. The clash of civilizations is the future, actually already here, and within each civilization there will be constant ideological struggle for supremacy. The civilizations of similar ideologies will align. As seen with Russia & China already.
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There Will Be Blood wrote:
The clash of civilizations is the future, actually already here, and within each civilization there will be constant ideological struggle for supremacy. The civilizations of similar ideologies will align. As seen with Russia & China already.

Perhaps a defeat by the East will push the West towards Fatalism and its death...

Some believe that we already are in the "Winter" phase but we still might be in the Fall-Winter transition, these people are probably projecting their desire for "Spring" which i can resonate with to a degree.

The east seems to be between Summer-Fall and might last longer since the infection is more subtle....or beacuse its subtle will that mean its fall and death will come sooner?

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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Im not sure if this comparison has been brought up yet but i was thinking about the 2 forms of masculinity and femininity that Satyr mentioned in his "metapolitics" video and how it applies to the Spenglerian Seasons in the west's decline...

Spring-(Control over self, Hellenism, Paganism, Balanced Asceticism) Birth/Life
Summer-(Control over other, Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism, God King) Infection
Fall-(Denial, Escapism, Hedonism, Materialism, Rejection of World, Extreme Relativism) Sickness
Winter-(Fatalism, Self-Pity, Denial of Self) Death

I know some of these intertwine but in general it seems to make sense to me.

Thoughts?
I like it.
Man builds concepts upon what he knows, and to the extent that he knows and understands it.

Sex, being one such aspects of himself.
Nature, another...sex being an extension, expression of man's nature.
The moment we use the label human, or any species label, we imply sex, even if, like some retards, we are not aware of it...then accusing others of being obsessed with sex.
The modern morons of the world, have no clue what they are talking about when they use words. in the case of human, or any species designation, the sexuality is implied, otherwise the concept has no meaning.
So, the concepts human automatically means a sexual designation, a reproductive potential, the sub-categories of which are male/female.

Everything is colored by this knowledge and understanding of self, even if the individual may not be aware of it.
Male/Female determines a particular psychology, facilitating a particular role, and its potentials.
Not sex for sex's sake...as in not power for power's sake...but sex as a emans towards an end, as a relating.

This brings us to the seasons.
The seasons are another such environmental conditioning which affects human, and organic, behavior.
In the case of humans the effect is psychological...as psychology deals with human behavior and emotions - emotions being the nexus between mind/body....the nervous system connecting the internal organic structures with a central hub, which in continuously stimulated, by external interactions.

I think astrology, and tis categories, has something to do with this climate, seasonal effect upon the organism's nervous system. the date of birth determines the time and place where an organism develops during its most sensitive period - the period it is most affected by environment.


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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Im not sure if this comparison has been brought up yet

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Satyr wrote:
I think astrology, and tis categories, has something to do with this climate, seasonal effect upon the organism's nervous system. the date of birth determines the time and place where an organism develops during its most sensitive period - the period it is most affected by environment.

Perhaps there might be correlations with Race/IQ/MBTI/ and the obvious Sexual types.




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Lyssa wrote:
Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Im not sure if this comparison has been brought up yet

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Derp, thank you Lyssa.

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I talked to a college friend of mine today who showed me something that could correlate or be more apt than Astrology, its called Numerology and was popular with Pythagoras.

Basically you take the time certain events happened in your life such as your birthday and calculate them into a number from 1-9, 11, and 22 (supposedly theres a 33 number that is not shown on this website.) the number that you get should give you a broad description of your behaviors.

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I got number 7...
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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Lyssa wrote:
Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Im not sure if this comparison has been brought up yet

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Derp, thank you Lyssa.


You can check out Sauwelios' post:
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He takes the Straussian method of segregating history into 4 time periods of the Homeric, Platonic, Machiavellian, and Nietzschean, and associates it with MBTI and theory of four humours, etc.

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"Turnings
While writing Generations, Strauss and Howe discovered a pattern in the historical generations they examined which revolved around generational events which they call turnings. In Generations, and in greater detail in The Fourth Turning, they identify the four-stage cycle of social or mood eras (i.e. turnings).



High
According to Strauss and Howe, the First Turning is a High. This is a post-Crisis era when institutions are strong and individualism is weak. Society is confident about where it wants to go collectively, though those outside the majoritarian center often feel stifled by the conformity.

According to the authors, America's most recent First Turning was the post-World War II American High, beginning in 1946 and ending with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.

Awakening
According to the theory, the Second Turning is an Awakening. This is an era when institutions are attacked in the name of personal and spiritual autonomy. Just when society is reaching its high tide of public progress, people suddenly tire of social discipline and want to recapture a sense of self-awareness, spirituality and personal authenticity. Young activists look back at the previous High as an era of cultural and spiritual poverty.

Strauss & Howe say America’s most recent Awakening was the “Consciousness Revolution,” which spanned from the campus and inner-city revolts of the mid-1960s to the tax revolts of the early 1980s.

Unraveling
According to Strauss and Howe, the Third Turning is an Unraveling. The mood of this era is in many ways the opposite of a High: Institutions are weak and distrusted, while individualism is strong and flourishing. Highs come after Crises, when society wants to coalesce and build. Unravelings come after Awakenings, when society wants to atomize and enjoy. They declare that America’s most recent Unraveling was the Long Boom and Culture War, beginning in the 1980s and ending in the late 2000s.

Crisis
According to the authors, the Fourth Turning is a Crisis. This is an era in which institutional life is destroyed and rebuilt in response to a perceived threat to the nation’s survival. Civic authority revives, cultural expression redirects towards community purpose, and people begin to locate themselves as members of a larger group.[24] America’s most recent completed Fourth Turning began with the stock market crash of 1929 and climaxed with the end of World War II. The G.I. Generation (a Hero archetype, born 1901 to 1924) came of age during this era. Their confidence, optimism, and collective outlook epitomized the mood of the era.[25] According to the authors, the Millennial Generation (Hero archetype, born 1982 to 2004), show many traits similar to those of the G.I. youth, including rising civic engagement, improving behavior, and collective confidence.

Each turning lasts about 20–22 years. Four turnings comprise a full cycle of approximately 80 to 90 years, which the authors term a saeculum, after the Latin word meaning both “a long human life” and “a natural century.”



Archetypes



Prophet
Abraham Lincoln, born in 1809. Strauss and Howe would identify him as a member of the Transcendental generation.
Prophet generations are born near the end of a Crisis, during a time of rejuvenated community life and consensus around a new societal order. Prophets grow up as the increasingly indulged children of this post-Crisis era, come of age as self-absorbed young crusaders of an Awakening, focus on morals and principles in midlife, and emerge as elders guiding another Crisis.


Nomad
Nomad generations are born during an Awakening, a time of social ideals and spiritual agendas, when young adults are passionately attacking the established institutional order. Nomads grow up as under-protected children during this Awakening, come of age as alienated, post-Awakening adults, become pragmatic midlife leaders during a Crisis, and age into resilient post-Crisis elders.


Hero
Young adults fighting in World War II were born in the early part of the 20th century, like PT109 commander LTJG John F. Kennedy (b. 1917). They are part of the G.I. Generation, which follows the Hero archetype.
Hero generations are born after an Awakening, during an Unraveling, a time of individual pragmatism, self-reliance, and laissez faire. Heroes grow up as increasingly protected post-Awakening children, come of age as team-oriented young optimists during a Crisis, emerge as energetic, overly-confident midlifers, and age into politically powerful elders attacked by another Awakening.


Artist
Artist generations are born after an Unraveling, during a Crisis, a time when great dangers cut down social and political complexity in favor of public consensus, aggressive institutions, and an ethic of personal sacrifice. Artists grow up overprotected by adults preoccupied with the Crisis, come of age as the socialized and conformist young adults of a post-Crisis world, break out as process-oriented midlife leaders during an Awakening, and age into thoughtful post-Awakening elders."


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