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PostSubject: Skadi Forum Vanished Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:19 pm

A forum promoting German culture - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - has vanished from the internet, along with all its content.

It's sister forum - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - is unreachable, suggesting it may be under a denial of service attack.

Skadi is located on an American server, IP 69.163.222.117, location Brea, California.

Other websites on the same server are unaffected.

Someone may have hacked the server and deleted the forum's index page or changed its name.

I'll update later.
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:18 am

Not just German culture (as I'm sure you know) but Germanic culture, and European heritage in general. It's been a couple weeks since I last visited, but I was always inspired and enlightened every time. This is very bad news.

Because of Skadi Forum, I felt encouraged to research my genetic heritage. I was recommended 23andme.com. Sent off my saliva sample yesterday; can't wait for the results. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:37 am

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Not just German culture (as I'm sure you know) but Germanic culture, and European heritage in general. It's been a couple weeks since I last visited, but I was always inspired and enlightened every time. This is very bad news.
Yes, it was a good site for research and debate with people who were less 'meat-headed' than some right-wing websites.

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What follows is a series of posts from Stormfront, July 2004, when the site was down. The first appears to be from the sites administrator and illustrates some of the dangers of posting material and opinions that are seen as a threat to liberal democracy.

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Let me set the record straight before anyone goes off on a conspiracy theory:

Skadi is temporarily down and it was not shut down by the German government as the German government has no jurisdiction over me (an American in America) and my American hosted and operated server.

A complaint was made to the provider of services by M. Bootz from Germany (if anyone has this person's email, please send it to me) and the provider determined that Skadi was violating their TOS/AUP. The provider also told me that they received communication from the FBI regarding Skadi. Now we have to go to the trouble of finding a new provider and making a FOIA request.

Alas, Skadi will return. Like it or not.

-Zoë

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This is what i seen and read...

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> > This site Violates our AUP & TOS, please remove it immediately and
> > respond to me within 24 hours.
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > John Cardinale
> > Aplus.Net Postmaster
> > 10350 Barnes Canyon Rd, San Diego, CA. 92121
> > Sales: (877)275-8763 or (85410-6929 | [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
> > Tech. Support: (85410-6900 | [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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> > > Dear madames, dear sirs,
> > >
> > > jugendschutz.net is appointed by the federal states of Germany to deal
> > with
> > > discriminatory/racial material in the freely accessible areas of the
> > > internet.
> > >
> > > We would like to inform you that we received a complaint about the url:
> > >
> > > [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
> > >
> > > The site is hostet on one of your servers.
> > >
> > > The website contains one of the most significant neo-Nazi toplist-sites
> > >
> > > (top100: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
> > >
> > > in the german rightwing scene. The website provides access to many
> > > international extreme rightwing sites. It's linklist includes mainly
> > > websites with racial, holocaust denial and discriminatory content.
> > >
> > > The site hosts also a big forum with countless racial and discriminatory
> > > threads against, jews, "negroes" and all other "non aryan" races. Just
> > one
> > > example is:
> > >
> > > [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
> > >
> > > "a present for the jews
> > > [...]What a great site! a Jewish bastards get what he deserves! These
> > > shootings did actually happen, thanks Jesus! (note; they where shoot as
> > > antiterrorist measures, but i would have liked it if they shooted for
> > > everything, just because they where Jews for example)[...]"
> > >
> > >
> > > The site appears also as a hostprovider for illegal german rightwing
> > sites.
> > >
> > > skadi.net is illegal under german law because of racism (§130 StGB) and
> > hate
> > > propaganda (§86a StGB).
> > >
> > >
> > > In accordance with the terms of service of aplus.net
> > >
> > > "It is contrary to Aplus.net policy for any user of any of these
> > services
> > to
> > > effect or participate in any of the following activities through an
> > > Aplus.net- provided service:
> > > [...]
> > > 7.4. Providing material that is offensive to the online community,
> > including
> > > but not limited to profanity, bigotry, prejudice, racism, hatred, etc.
> > > 7.6. Defaming any person or group;"
> > >
> > >
> > > we would like to ask you to check the contents of this website and it's
> > > compatiblity with your TOS.
> > > Besides that it would be nice, if you named a personal email-address we
> > > could possibly contact directly in future cases of abuse.
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your answer,
> > >
> > > yours sincerely
> > >
> > > M. Bootz
> > >
> > > jugendschutz.net
> > > Wallstraße 11
> > > 55122 Mainz
> > > Germany
> > > Tel: +49 6131 - 3285220

A message posted on the Skadi website shortly after:

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Skadi Forum is temporarily closed.

As you might have heard, Skadi has been shut down on request of the enemies of freedom of expression, freedom of information, justice, and a State under the rule of law, i. e. the government of the Federal Republic of Germany.

They apparently believe that you are too stupid to critically analyze the opinions of others and to form an opinion on your own.

We are currently busy doing the backups of all hosted sites. Thereafter, expect some more downtime, until we have finished moving Skadi to a server provider factually dedicated to the First Amendment.

Expect Skadi to be up again mid or end of this week.


"All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently, the first condition of progress is the removal of censorships."
~ George Bernard Shaw

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It appears that the source of the complaint was a German website - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - which under the guise of protecting children censors websites which question the logic of Judeo-Christian secularism:

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Blocking Access to Internet - More consideration for children

jugendschutz.net controls the Internet and ensures compliance with the protection of minors. Given the plethora of problematic deals we need your help. Information about violations, we take our complaints body counter (hotline).
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:42 am

The irony of all this is that it was German culture that gave rise to the Nazis, where it was pretty much embraced by the whole nation, yet now the Germans (and Austrians) are the most stringent when it comes to stamping down on any expression of Nazism.

I'm sure there's some psychological mechanism at work here which explains this behavior.
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:31 pm

The very ones who believe all are equal and deserve equal respect are the ones who step in to "protect" those they know might find in certain views something superior to the mundane crap and the institutionalized lies they are told in schools.

They have confidence in the reasoning of all, but not really.
They know they've developed minds that are infantile and impressionable, so as to control them...so they do not others to take advantage of the weakness they've nurtured.

They are not afraid of the superior mind because that is always part of a very small minority.

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:39 pm

Probably Zionists backed by other American liberals...
I had an account on Skadi at one point.

There was a woman who called herself Ms. Aburke on youtube with a lot of racial extremist opinions and an eye on wealthy banking families etc. who was very recently banned from her years old account. She was a highly educated Roman Catholic with strong pride in her Celtic background. She refers to the Jews as 'Edom' and claims that they're out to demolish Irish-Scotts blood and/or use it for their own investment gain (this is in large part true).
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:09 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:52 pm

Thank you for the alert Apaosha.

In any case, this is not the first time Skadi has disappeared, and they always keep a back-up; it will hopefully resurge sooner or later.

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:41 am

Lyssa wrote:
Thank you for the alert Apaosha.

In any case, this is not the first time Skadi has disappeared, and they always keep a back-up; it will hopefully resurge sooner or later.

And its back:

Skadi

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:51 am

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Because of Skadi Forum, I felt encouraged to research my genetic heritage.  I was recommended 23andme.com.  Sent off my saliva sample yesterday; can't wait for the results.   bounce
How much did it cost you?

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:15 pm

Satyr wrote:
Cold Weasel wrote:
   

Because of Skadi Forum, I felt encouraged to research my genetic heritage.  I was recommended 23andme.com.  Sent off my saliva sample yesterday; can't wait for the results.   bounce
How much did it cost you?

At the time, it was fairly new so I think it was around $200. But last I checked it was 99$ or something like that. Check out the website, they will tell you.

But I hear these inexpensive options are not as exhaustive as some others. At any rate, they send you a file of your complete genome that you can use freely and submit to other databases.
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Thanks, I'll look into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:44 am

In so far I have heard that 23AndMe is the best option. But nontheless, with the many commercial DNA testing companies, you can get a lot of different results. So you should still be wary about it.

The main thing it can do for you, is to confirm whether you have negro and mongoloid DNA, or not. But many tests, ''for some reason'', do not ''recognize'' German(ic) DNA. As if we do not exist. Of course everything has its reasons, the fact that anti-Germanism still continues.

What they do, is to replace German(ic) results with the DNA of the British isles.
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PostSubject: Re: Skadi Forum Vanished Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:15 am

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But many tests, ''for some reason'', do not ''recognize'' German(ic) DNA. As if we do not exist. Of course everything has its reasons, the fact that anti-Germanism still continues.

What they do, is to replace German(ic) results with the DNA of the British isles.

Which tests do this?  

23andme has a kind of haplogroup taxonomy roughly corresponding to countries recognized politically.  Sort of a shorthand.  

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1.  They use FDA-approved medical advice which is not to be trusted.
2.  In their survey you will be asked whether you have Ashkenazi heritage. (But are we really surprised?)
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