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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:01 am

I've been following the drama here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
The guy is not interested in science. He's (apparently) part-jew and more concerned with organizing online smear campaigns against people he disagrees with.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:01 am

Part 3 of Metokur's Trout series where the conning of "conservative" youtube personalities by (((BasedMomma)))is described.


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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:02 pm

Let's see if load times stay fast if more videos get posted with this new tag...

The rest of the Trout series:




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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:34 pm

Thanks for your work Anfang...and.....this shit you posted is incredible.

Drama....so much insanity.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:05 am

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Thanks for your work Anfang...and.....this shit you posted is incredible.

Drama....so much insanity.

Thanks, yes, if the Trout had any shame he would stay away from the public sphere for a long time but I doubt it. I think the best result is dividing the people. It's inevitable anyway, the only way out is to have some selection, some division. Just the opposite of what the current (((sociologists))) preach.



This was about the most watched Youtube-Stream at the time. Haven't watched much of it (yet) but it's interesting how the latest humour offensive is working out in getting new listeners.
It's not bad to have this popular outreach but it's important that there are elites who keep it truthful and grounded in biological reality and who keep the attempts at (((subversion))) at bay.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:54 am

Pitting one version of positive Nihilism against another, is what Atwill claims the Romans did when they invented Christianity, by adjusting Judaic dogma to their needs. I realized a long time ago that you cannot fight against the hordes of imbeciles this psychosis exploits and manipulates....it's like fighting against a swarm of bees.
Quantity drown quality in enclosed environments, like this planet Earth....with no accessible frontiers.

A mighty warrior cannot defeat a cloud of mosquitoes, stinging him relentlessly.

Best thing is to immunize yourself, to isolate yourself, and to pit one against another of the same kind.
Nietzsche and Schopenhauer, and many others did so. They were reclusive, unable to deal with the daily crap, and the infinite amount of stupidity out there.
Selective socializing....keeping to your own.
But this leaves the problem of the dis-ease still to deal with.
viruses die out on their own...they eventually kill every host and return to their inert state.
It's part of the viral cycle.
Another method is, again, making one variant of the virus attack another, or invent a strain that is harmless.
Like a bee with no stinger.
Harmless and still useful.

What does a memetic virus use?
Language.
Immunization is linguistic clarity.
Let them play with words...like on ILP.
See one viral strain in dialogue with another version.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:18 pm

I was there for the live debate. It was very good actually. They got up to 12,500 viewers on Youtube, got #1 worldwide and were receiving hundreds of dollars in donations.
Sargon was very poor, he got very badly triggered very early on and never really recovered. The real debate was between Spencer and Styxhexenhammer666, they had a very interesting back and forth which was unfortunately interrupted a lot by the others. I hope they arrange another debate with only Styx and Spencer.
Spencer is very theatrical in his mannerisms and subject, has the sort of pretentious Nietzschean/Evolian philosophical aristocrat thing going on, which was completely lost on the audience. Styx is a basic consistent libertarian/libertine. Sargon is a guy who made a name for himself a few years ago to do with sjws in video games journalism; he should stick to that as he's out of his element with this.
He did an interview with Jared Taylor previously and although he doesn't get as upset you can see that he can't deal with this subject:

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:02 pm

Part 4, the last part of the Trout series.
Gives an insight into the slavish personality type and how he accuses others of being and feeling what he is and feels himself. And what happens if such a type has some level of self-awareness? - He begins to claim that others are projecting, as he does project himself, no matter what, the other has become a reflection of himself.
The "dark side" of the "Aren't we all the same?" people.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:11 pm

These fucks convince me that this Feminism Abrahamic dis-ease will be a cleaning house.
Sick morons.
Centuries of sheltering and Abrahamic nihilism has allowed the gene pool to be corrupted by these degenerates.

Using nihilism to weed out the feeble-minded gullible, emasculated ones, will be a good thing.
I support all dogmas that offer a messianic alternative to the left-overs.
God is dead, let us welcome the next Messiah, the next fisher of men-children to clean the cesspool from bottom dwellers and vermin.

Romans used Christianity....we need spiritual nihilistic dogmas, like that, because in every decline there's an excess of herd to deal with.
When a herd of herbivorous is protected from natural culling they devastate the land until they consume themselves to death.
They need some messianic farmer to gather them all up and corral them in a pen.



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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:23 pm

One additional reason not to bother with places like ILP.
They are doing us a service by gathering in one place all the men-children, retards, degenerates and insane cucks.
There they can "debate" their arse off, speaking of magical places and alternate realities in their heads using empty of meaning words.
The next Abrahamic revision will come.
It's inevitable in out present world with no accessible frontiers.
Not only is it inevitable it is necessary to keep morons placated and inebriated with bullshyte.
The real world is not for the many.
The many need some mystical tail to chase, to pretend they are advancing, progressing, making ground,, when they are running in circles.
They need a symbol/word to play with, like a puppy with a plastic ball, or a kitten with a ball of yarn.

How fuckin' retarded can they be to think Sargon is a leader?
He couldn't even debate Spencer.
But, admittedly, these fuckers are at a disadvantage. They live in la-la-land, and can only sample reality to support their naive, infantile, effete, ideologies.
A chimpanzee has an advantage over them...it, at least, does not doubt its own senses, and does not convince itself that what looks like a banana is really a cucumber "inside", and they don to stick either in their anus and call it an alternative way to digest nutrients, and a progressive lifestyle.

I've always believed that 'LESS is MORE'...that's why I never wanted KT to be about a large membership and popularity.  
My participation in these forums, before KT, was as fishing expeditions. To put these ideas out there and attract those rare few that have not been infected by the memetic virus.
I was never naive enough to believe I could change the minds of the already infected, and un-recyclable, nor did I want to.
Most are scum. No dignity, no nobility, no pride.
Just listen to these fuckers in the vid Metokur made.
Attention whores, cucks, degenerates....who would want to belong to any group that would include them?
Better to be utterly alone than with them at your side.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:13 pm

Actually, it's a good litmus test.
If you buy into the naive crap, or are seduced by word-games, or are, in any way, drawn to nihilism, then you ought to not be with us.
You ought to be exactly where you belong....waaaay over there, where I can see you, but not smell your stench.
This isn't about wanting to change or save humanity....defined as world.

At least that wasn't even my intent.
My goal was to explore and categorize the environment I am forced to exist within.
Like any biologist or explorer, I had to observe the different life forms in it, categorize them by behavioural patterns, and then find a way to exploit, avoid, or find some other use for.

Then I realized some were like me, or like me at a younger age...so I wanted to give them a chance to survive this terrible mental dis-ease.....for my own sake.
I participated in forums like ILP, and before it, in a very combative, insulting, way so as to weed out the garbage that could not be immunized, because it was brain-dead and nothing was left to preserve, from what still had a chance.
This usually meant the young. The old have too much time and ego invested and even if in their mind they feel like they were believing in lies, and that their entire lives were based on bullshyte they have been tricked into believing, they could never admit it publicly.
I realized that this was a matter of life and death, for many.....because though they could not defend their views and had to resort to mind-games, they needed them to tolerate the world.
There's no talking reason to a coward who knows he will go mad, or commit suicide if we accepts the world as it is, and he abandons his idealistic, mystical safety harness.

This is not only about being smart.
This is also about being courageous. A genius coward will be a moron.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:17 pm

I'm not convinced of that. Quantities matter, because quantities define the shape of a society and if you simply allow them to be led any which way it may end up in a state of profound destruction.
This thing with the Romans supposedly creating Christianity to manage and control jews: if that actually is the case then it backfired badly - the Romans fully embraced their own method of control.
If people like Sargon have their way, then Western Civilization is reduced to an atomized individualism divorced entirely from past and heritage. Like Peterson; groups, races, nations are collectivist and a violation of "individual rights", hence evil. Sargon reacts so violently to the alt-right because he fundamentally agrees with the SJWs he opposes. This form of nihilism is based upon the demonization of European group consciousness at base and the only direction it will lead is in the extinction of the European people.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:14 am

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I'm not convinced of that. Quantities matter, because quantities define the shape of a society and if you simply allow them to be led any which way it may end up in a state of profound destruction.
This thing with the Romans supposedly creating Christianity to manage and control jews: if that actually is the case then it backfired badly - the Romans fully embraced their own method of control.
Yes it did backfire.....or the targets responded by infecting the host through the method it used to deal with them.

But, also, in many ways the roman tactic is still effective, because the Christians are the most vocal antagonists of the dis-ease.

What is occurring, in my view, is an internal fragmentation.
Nihilism produces variations and is not cohesive, because it is not restricted by an objective world - but exists in an internal subjective alternate reality.
The only thing unifying nihilists is their animosity towards what is real, or natural - past.
This substitutes tribal identifications, and natural ones, with ideological identifiers. They become tribes within a tribe, and their only identifiers are superficial.
Then you get cunts like cAnus advocating an end to ideological conflict, because in their warped mind it's all subjective and therefore a matter of ideology.

Quantities matter in a closed world - or one with no accessible frontiers.
But what we tell the masses ought not be the same as what we tell ourselves.
The many need lies, because they cannot tolerate truth beyond a certain level.
You cannot integrate such psychosis by speaking the truth about the world. For them it's a matter of life & death. Reality is an attack on them.
In the midst of a herd of cattle you cannot reveal yourself a wolf. They are big and dumb, and many, and will trample you with their bovine mass.
we are trapped in thir midst, whispering to not be heard by them....hoping among them there are other wolves in bovine attire masking as cattle.
But there is no 'outside' the herd. No frontier to distance ourselves from them - only internal ones.  
Our strategies should be adapted to these circumstances.
If it means we only speak a partial truth, or let them understand what we are saying in whatever self-flattering way they need to make it tolerable, then we should not try to change their minds, but only direct it.

apaosha wrote:
If people like Sargon have their way, then Western Civilization is reduced to an atomized individualism divorced entirely from past and heritage. Like Peterson; groups, races, nations are collectivist and a violation of "individual rights", hence evil. Sargon reacts so violently to the alt-right because he fundamentally agrees with the SJWs he opposes. This form of nihilism is based upon the demonization of European group consciousness at base and the only direction it will lead is in the extinction of the European people.
If Sargon and his kind have their way, then the individual is rendered harmless to the State. An automaton to easily exploit and manipulate.
These types are obsessed with law, because they have the numbers.
Marxists use societal laws in their favour.
Open democracies is where they thrive. The weak and stupid will always outnumber the strong and intelligent.
Democracy equalizes quantity with quality, and they exploit this artificial equalization.
The only method we can use is exploiting their idiocy.

The Romans made the Jews worship the Caesar by converting Jesus, the saviour, into an icon of the Roman leader.
The Jews were not going to submit. They were willing to die for their dogma....so he tricked them by using their own obsessiveness, and superstitions.
That was Atwill's conclusion.

Did it backfire?
Yes and no.
It worked and is still working, but it did not completely convert the Jews, so they changed their strategy into secular judaism - Marxism, Frankfurt School etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:27 am

All parasites exploit the host's weaknesses.
Usury exploited western greed and vanity.
It is continuing to do so.

The weakness can be sexual, emotional.
This is the point of entrance into the mind.
The memetic virus enters the mind and begins to grow in there.
Eventually the host becomes a Zombie under the parasite's control.



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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:11 am

This is a follow-up on the Spencer vs. Sargon video, with Styx vs. Ryan Faulk--aka Alternative Hypothesis,
aka NewEuropeANP, aka Fringe Elements...oh, the sweet memories!  Back when even Satyr was active on YouTube....

Sargon vs. Spencer was a nice cockfight I guess, but...I'm getting too old for that shit.  Agree with Apaosha, Spencer comes off too enamored of the Continental-style "spirit"-mongering language.  He's boring and vague.  Even if Sargon were more intelligent the two of them would have a hard time getting to the point.  

Styx vs. Ryan was better for people who were unsatisfied with Sargon vs. Spencer. Still, Ryan didn't go on the offensive, which he really should have.  He allowed Styx to nitpick too much.  



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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:17 am

Now, I'm watching this: Styx vs. Greg Johnson. I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. I haven't watched it yet. But I'm hoping that in the figure of Styx more and more people can see this ethereal, egghead, non-aggression principle (Rothbardian) libertarian silliness held to the flame of real scrutiny and get to watch it squirm some more. Kudos to him for getting into these discussions, I always wanted him to get involved because he's an astute and observant guy. I want him to grow out of this libertarian cult of self and contribute something.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:21 pm

Had a friend like Styx... looked the same, wore the same sort of a too small, tight leather jacket with scarcely anything underneath, had the same hair, similar glasses and though it was in rural Poland he certainly had an Asian(local Tatars) genes(squinted eyes, no facial hair etc.), spoke in a similar fashion and too held onto these ridiculous theories that made no sense to a retard and he was no retard for sure... makes me think of the Polish philosopher Elzenberg who wrote extensively on the will---intellect dynamics and concluded that the will is an independent entity that dictates what the intellect does and the latters' role is largely overestimated within the humanist movements etc. as to propose that organic makeup can be overcome by 'thinking and reading the right things' and human animal can be fully domesticated as desired. These discussions are a great way to expose the theories and ideas to potent individuals within the broad audience but anybody who thinks a guy like styx or some other white man who married a nigger and believed feminist and equality oriented philosophies his whole life can be 'turned around' using words and arguments is in my opinion very, very naive of human nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:39 pm

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This is a follow-up on the Spencer vs. Sargon video, with Styx vs. Ryan Faulk--aka Alternative Hypothesis,
aka NewEuropeANP, aka Fringe Elements...oh, the sweet memories! Back when even Satyr was active on YouTube....
Gave up on YouTube before all this censorship took-off.
It wasn't an efficient use of my time.
Those vids take time to make and they can be flagged and taken down in a few minutes.
I wouldn't mind recording some of my positions if another does the editing and the uploading, in a conversation-like format.
Don't like speaking into a microphone, without having someone to bounce off of, and my mind is prone to going off into tangents so I need someone to keep my on-topic.
Tried to use a script but I sounded mechanical.

Anyway...YouTube is still the only way to reach a wide audience, but I'm not so sure, anymore, that this is a good idea.
Other than the obvious personal risks, as displayed in the vids about the douche-bag festival staring Kraus, there's the factor of no payback, if it isn't monetized....and that not possible anymore.
The first issue is more crucial for me, because I really do not care for making money speaking my mind.

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Had a friend like Styx... looked the same, wore the same sort of a too small, tight leather jacket with scarcely anything underneath, had the same hair, similar glasses and though it was in rural Poland he certainly had an Asian(local Tatars) genes(squinted eyes, no facial hair etc.), spoke in a similar fashion and too held onto these ridiculous theories that made no sense to a retard and he was no retard for sure
I've noticed that humans fall in some general categories, and it shows.
Their internal psychology is reflected in their external appearance and dress choices and mannerisms.

There's only so many ways to cultivate DNA sequences.
The environment streamlines the process by promoting and inhibiting this inherited cultivation, so individuals fall into some broad categories....psychological types, attracted to particular philosophical and political positions.
DNA being encoded memories can be triggered, by environmental stimuli or not, reining dormant.
Potentials are limited by environmental conditions, in this case socioeconomic factors, cultural, memetic factors....so they are forced to express themselves in specific directions.

This makes imbeciles believe that all are social constructs.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:29 pm



They do not understand why Anglo-Saxons refuse this Alt-Right awakening.....
We've already explained this here on KT.
Protestants and Jews have a common psychology due to historical factors, and their shared victim psychology.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:43 pm

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Even a cunt like Sargon can be used against degenerate Zombies.
Like canon fodder.
Christians can be used against Jews, one variant of nihilism against the other. Muslims as well. .
Narcissistic degenerates can be used to filter out the needy, lost men-children... sort-out the filth from what can, still, be salvaged.
I use ILP....and is is enormously useful.
Not for finding gems, not at this stage of the game...not anymore.
Things have gone beyond that, as the present state of YouTube proves.  

Everything can be used.

Sargon is a cunt, but Metokur is a cynic.
Both are very useful.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Since the human species is a social species, using cooperation as a survival strategy, the individualism and collectivism ought to be determined along degrees, where the line of division merges in a vague point.
Individualism places the individual first, and in relation to the group.
Collectivism places the group first, and in relation to the individual.

This is easier in genetically homogeneous groups, where the individual is a representation of the group.
In heterogeneous groups, such as those promoted by modernity, this relationship is absent, and replaced by an idea(l) - a noetic construct.....it can be 'freedom', or 'love', or 'god.
Whatever it may be it is ideology with no necessary pragmatic basis.
With libertarians it seems to be a spiritual definition of the concept 'human'.
God is converted to Human, and retains its non-corporeal, racial sexual identifiers.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:17 pm

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They do not understand why Anglo-Saxons refuse this Alt-Right awakening.....
We've already explained this here on KT.

Do you mean Anglo-Saxons most of all, among others?  

One thing the Anglos have in America, at least, is the 1st Amendment that their ancestors handed down to them, for better or worse.

France seems to be doing far worse, in remaining willfully obtuse and refusing to countenance anything other than universal humanism.  Would you say that's just for a different reason than for Anglos?
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:20 pm

Sargon is in no way shape or form useful. He is part of the problem.


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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:32 pm

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They do not understand why Anglo-Saxons refuse this Alt-Right awakening.....
We've already explained this here on KT.
Do you mean Anglo-Saxons most of all, among others?  
Anglo-Saxons have a psychological similarity with Jews.
Their culture was humiliated and destroyed.
The US and most Anglo nations are multi-cultural.

Cold Weasel wrote:
One thing the Anglos have in America, at least, is the 1st Amendment that their ancestors handed down to them, for better or worse.
Yes, its a good theory, a nice principle, on paper.
All theories are good on paper.

Cold Weasel wrote:
France seems to be doing far worse, in remaining willfully obtuse and refusing to countenance anything other than universal humanism.  Would you say that's just for a different reason than for Anglos?
France's geographical position and her WW2 choices are what is responsible for her present fate.
I have to say that I am hopping that there still remains that old Franc spirit, as it still must in the Germans, and this is a cover to not be noticed by the only power that is.
Governments are puppets....the strongest hand controls them.
The only hope, I see, other than a full out war, is a gradual European confederation that will eventually permit those, hidden undercurrents to expose themselves, openly.

I see a coming future where the US will have its hands full with the challenge China poses.
They'll have to make compromises, like allow more European independence, to gain their alliance.
As the US declines, Europe can ascend.
The Faustian spirit can then openly come forth.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:39 pm

What shall become of Slavs in your opinion. Currently Poland shifted from pro-EU party of whores and thieves to a rightist one that whores itself to USA, we as a nation at least never accepted slavery and domination and always rebelled but Poland was always inferior to Germany in all aspects and the latest history left a psychological wound that is easily observed and exploited by politicians for their ends(foreign ones).
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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:52 pm

Slavs have been infected by Abrahamism.
Their Christian resistance is what makes them resist the dis-ease as it is growing in the US, and other Anglo nations.
Christianity was a stage towards post-modernity, and it will be a fall back position.
In the US the only people openly speaking against the (((powers that be))) are Christians....it's a family squabble, that goes back to Roman times.

Europe has an inferiority complex in relation to Germany. Germany has been infected with shame, to keep its spirit down.
A psychological shift in self-identity, in self-consciousness, will have to take place where the common blood is rediscovered beneath the centuries of infection.
Europeans will have to find themselves in their ancestors before the dis-ease took over, and Rome was split.

EU is presented as Globalization, and it could be if it is under the guidance of the US, the only true Globalizing entity.
Globalization is covert Americanization, using American individualism as an ideal of resistance.
Nihilism always plays both sides, like during the Cold War.

If Europeans do not see how EU unity can seem like a part of Globalization but it could be a scheme to unite, allowing for the ancient blood to rekindle.
The Americans want Europe united but only as a economic puppet state to harvest resources....mostly minds, to deal with their own populations dumbing-down.
Eastern and Central Europe is, in many ways the only source of hope...Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Austria.
I think it's because of their communist past and the Iron Wall, that kept American propaganda from converting their brains to mush.
They know of soviet style, overt, propaganda, but are still immune, partially, to Bernays style American marketing and more subtle, seductive, political propaganda.
Soviets used thymos, the Americans use eros.
Ego is what is manipulated in the west.  
Hollywood is infecting them, as is American culture-of-no-culture - populism and pop-culture.
But they're less spoiled than the western Europeans are, after decades of peace, prosperity, and brainwashing.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:07 pm

I'm not optimistic....mostly because the infection, once it takes hold for a few years, cannot be extricated from the host - the host will die.

Like with the metaphorical zombies, you have to let the dis-ease take its course, and protect some, immunize as many as possible, to save the family tree.
Like the Ice Age almost made the European extinct, and the Black Plague, so too this mental virus, will bring European culture to the edge of extinction.
This will clean the gene pool after centuries of dis-ease reproduction, and sheltering.
Only a very few will have a chance to survive - the strongest, the most clever, the smartest of our tribes.
Some tribes will vanish.
Those that survive this plague, this psycho-somatic virus, will be part of the future re-emergence of European dominion.
We've always thrived on war....
I wish I could give you guys a battle plan, but a good general knows when to attack, openly, and when to pull back, and conduct clandestine, defensive, operations.

Those YouTube characters are evidence that the dis-ease cannot be defeated using reason, theory, or direct conflict.
They are simply too many, and they have been given too many rites, been protected for far too long.
Like a domesticated cat, born and raised in a house, de-clawed and pampered, it will fight tooth and nail to not leave. It may become violent if it is forced out.

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PostSubject: Re: Things to Watch Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:11 pm

The Free-speech idea and practically culture in the USA rests on the Anglo population.
As they dwindle in power and influence it will disappear.

I think a main motivation behind this free speech idea is that the Anglo wants to best you with his talking.
Who has the best silver tongue, who is the best Protestant preacher, the best sales pitch-er,....

Let him talk because we must know who is best at talking (also known as who has the 'best' ideas).
In reality, who gets the most applause -> Mass appeal.

For a long time the economics have been to maximise mass production, eventually this quantity over quality principle will lead to ever decreasing quality until pushing quantity can't keep up with the deterioration of quality.
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