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A poor Black spoof of Dos Equis...




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"All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus]

"The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.]

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"Taking the above to the opposite extreme, in the world of Italian laundry products, myths about black men's ravenous libidos are still alive and banging:"






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Black guys listen better, etc....






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It's now becoming so obvious that the shaming methods have to be increased to keep minds from thinking.

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Subtle advert. hyping "freedom of choice" on yahoo news today...

http://screen.yahoo.com/popular/science-teacher-gets-surprising-results-122737570.html

Health is still being marketed in terms of calories and not the nutrient of what's going in, only how much. Qty. always...

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Subtle advert. hyping "freedom of choice" on yahoo news today...

http://screen.yahoo.com/popular/science-teacher-gets-surprising-results-122737570.html

Health is still being marketed in terms of calories and not the nutrient of what's going in, only how much. Qty. always...
Typically modern.
Calories over nutrients.
Value through popularity.
Emotion over Reason.
What gives the most, what attracts the most, what offers the most.
Quantification is animal greed/gluttony.

When it turns into a social bonding mechanism, it is judged by how many it attracts, seduces, sells to.
And this is where it can become a tool in the hands of conspirators...like Bernays.

Take a cognitive stroll through ILP, to name one cesspool we all know, and witness the end result.
Listen to modern pop music these days.
The beat takes precedence over the lyrics, the latter remaining as simple a possible. Words a child would say, with the attitude of a ten year-old.
No melody, and when it is present it has been sampled, regurgitated, recycled.
It's all primal beats, African rhythms...the heart pulsating in the chest. It speaks to the lowest part of human nature. It does not raise the spirit, it degrades it, pushes it into Dionysian madness.

Somebody accused me of overestimating the Apollonian.
This is not the case, but living in as Dionysian age I can see how any inkling of Apollo's light may seem harsh.
No, it's about a return to balance.
Balance not with Dionysus allowed to run amok, but with Apollo holding his brother's reigns, and riding him like a bitch.
Apollo is destined to fail...just as sun is destined to go nova or to dwindle and shrink into a red dwarf - and then... darkness.
But this is the beauty, the nobility, the rareness, the value, of this "dancing star" in the Chaos.

I'm going to repeat what I used to say many years ago:
I seem "pessimistic" to those who have been raised and are dominated by naive optimism.
Any hint at a corrective gesture is taken as a "half-empty" glass in the face.

Ask McMiserable, that pure nihilistic wretch, if he thinks I'm a pessimist.
Remember that freak?
He showed up on ILP - where else ? - recently...and no he still contradicts himself by fighting to stay alive.
But liberal twats, no matter what flavour they come in (chocolate or vanilla) share this hypocritical word-play, attitude, with no substance.

In his gloomy eyes, I'm an optimist or naive.
In my realism he perceived hypocrisy because he could not understand how I can agree with him, on so much, and still love life, and still claim that life is valuable, wonderful, and worth preserving.

I've talked about the masculine and the feminine forms of nihilism, as I perceive them.

The most popular is the feminine form. It pretends to be positive, life-embracing, yet every single one of its principles, beliefs, ideals is a contradiction to the real, the natural, the world. They hide their self-contempt, their loathing of existence, beneath words...the book of revelation, the scripture, the text. They invent realities using words, and then place it over the world itself...calling this "positive", or progressive.

The least popular one is the one McMiserable represented perfectly (I gave him that title and he used it upon his "return" - I doubt he was ever gone):
The masculine, pure, honest, self-loathing, world-denouncing, existence despising, type.
Then you have some intermediate forms, some mixtures, like Torn-Annus and Primal...for them their Hyper-Masculinity indicated a masculine nihilism, but it was a ploy.
They wanted to erase human reality, as it is, and not existence.
They wanted to restart, reboot, wipe the slate clean, so that they can find some hope.

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They propagate homosexuality, bi-sexuality, transgender tolerance, low impulse-control mastrubation etc., on ''school tv'',
shown to children in the Netherlands from age around 8 to 13.

Dokter Corrie:
From minute 2:14 she encourage children to chant in multiple languages ''(stijve) piemel'' which means ''boner'', ''erected wiener'', ''erection''..
From minute 2:40 she shows children how you use a erected penis (pencil) with a vagaina (hand)..



From minute 2:35 she sets an (bad) example out of her how to kiss with your tongue..


Also watch the introduction of these videos..


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Here's the thing, though...all of this can be thought of as a form of mimetic culling.
Who, but the degenerate, weak, stupid, desperate, would be taken by this stuff?

Those are the ones we do not want to associate with.

After that we need to inject children with an anti-viral meme.
An idea they can use to remain free from this nihilistic dis-ease.

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Lyssa wrote:
Subtle advert. hyping "freedom of choice" on yahoo news today...

http://screen.yahoo.com/popular/science-teacher-gets-surprising-results-122737570.html

Health is still being marketed in terms of calories and not the nutrient of what's going in, only how much. Qty. always...
Typically modern.
Calories over nutrients.
Value through popularity.
Emotion over Reason.
What gives the most, what attracts the most, what offers the most.
Quantification is animal greed/gluttony.

When it turns into a social bonding mechanism, it is judged by how many it attracts, seduces, sells to.
And this is where it can become a tool in the hands of conspirators...like Bernays.

Yes, not only that; amateur trials and experiments like going on a 90 day McDonald diet only restricted to x calories is pushed further by yahoo and such media as "studies" that's supposed to be scientific proof and convincing because it was carried out by "everyday people" like "you and I" - the seduction is in the relatibility. Not some lab experiment conducted by some high-brow people in white coats and such with sophisticated technology,,, but its the seduction of a "do.it.yourself" and see-for-yourself kind of "non-convincing", non-persuasive approach functioning as rhetoric. X calories of what is going inside and what is the horizon line of determining health effects is naturally never touched. The effects could be a slow deterioration or poisoning one maybe gets to see only after 10 years? What's imp. is the "uncoolness" of the superstition that has to be broken - McDonalds is not bad, and those who continue to think so even after an experiment conducted by an everyday person is ignorant/uncool/unenlightened/primitive, etc. Tagging is a Soft violence.


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Somebody accused me of overestimating the Apollonian.
This is not the case, but living in as Dionysian age I can see how any inkling of Apollo's light may seem harsh.
No, it's about a return to balance.
Balance not with Dionysus allowed to run amok, but with Apollo holding his brother's reigns, and riding him like a bitch.
Apollo is destined to fail...just as  sun is destined to go nova or to dwindle and shrink into a red dwarf - and then... darkness.
But this is the beauty, the nobility, the rareness, the value, of this "dancing star" in the Chaos.

The way I see it, the polarization is not beween Apollo/Dionysos as masc./fem., since between Apollo and Dionysos, there is a + and - range inherent to them .  
There is a hyper-feminine Dionysianism as much as a hyper-masculine Apollonianism characterizing today.
Not only is there now nothing but an "orgy" as Baudrillard, Evola, and you say it, but this orgy itself, extreme loosening, detachment from the roots, from the past, extreme nihilistic abstraction is an Apollonian over-drive.
The petrification of Thought, of the mind, of the spirit, is a hyper-Apollonian phenomenon, and like parched earth splinters into cracks,

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the mind-body, thought-spirit splinters with the mind disseminated into  schizoid pieces,,, letting loose the body into a detached narcissistic orgy.
The hyper-Apollonianism of today shrinks at the thought of enduring even a pin-prick! Pain is anathema. A little discomfort sends him/her like a sissy to say 'life is Hell'... anything that troubles the membranes of the self even a little bit is evil and shelter is soon sought again in third rate dialectics for consolation.
A masculine-dionysian will functioning out of the pleasure/pain paradigm is antidote to the hyper-Apollonian rigidity.

I see correction needing both ways, and this means a healthy balance, unrepressed exchange and communication between apollo/dionysos, each riding the other in turns with self-trust, each being a check on the other preventing over-petrification and over-liquefactions.
Don't be so rigid like a schizo. sheathing your self from the slightest pain or incursion, and don't overflow narcisstically like a prostitute who has no self at all. A healthy self is between these two states.
So we could even say, as a contrast to the above, an Apollonian Narcissism [self-pride] and a Dionysian Madness [thinking out of the box, etc.] would be a healthy state.

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I'm going to repeat what I used to say many years ago:
I seem "pessimistic" to those who have been raised and are dominated by naive optimism.
Any hint at a corrective gesture is taken as a "half-empty" glass in the face.

I know. There's a pessimism from strength and a pessimism from exhaustion.

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Ask McMiserable, that pure nihilistic wretch, if he thinks I'm a pessimist.
Remember that freak?
He showed up on ILP - where else ? - recently...and no he still contradicts himself by fighting to stay alive.
But liberal twats, no matter what flavour they come in (chocolate or vanilla) share this hypocritical word-play, attitude, with no substance.

In his gloomy eyes, I'm an optimist or naive.
In my realism he perceived hypocrisy because he could not understand how I can agree with him, on so much, and still love life, and still claim that life is valuable, wonderful, and worth preserving.
I've talked about the masculine and the feminine forms of nihilism, as I perceive them.

Can't find McRabble's post on ILP, but I did encounter Schmoe there, championing Bill Hicks' "love", "positivity", and "reincarnation"...  aishh... isn't it someone like Schmoe who should be watching that movie 'The Hunt' I posted? Someone claiming not to be afraid of children, feeling secure in his "predictable" world, needs to experience first hand what a massive damage a small child can do. Even worse than him is prob. that martial arts teacher given the dojo license castrating the Schmoes of this world... the root of this being the belief one size fits all at all times. One tidbit of martial wisdom "withdraw your anger and fear" applies to all people in all contexts... consequence: we get a Schmoe.

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Here's the thing, though...all of this can be thought of as a form of mimetic culling.
Who, but the degenerate, weak, stupid, desperate, would be taken by this stuff?

Those are the ones we do not want to associate with.

After that we need to inject children with an anti-viral meme.
An idea they can use to remain free from this nihilistic dis-ease.  

True, such thought i have regarding the propagation of interracial relationships.
But with healthy *looking* children it gives me an urge to taste blood of those mutilating them.

Genes seek to replicate itself with similar (ethnicity/race) genetic make-up; if one has offspring with a race different from him/her,
the mind simply is not healthy and thus undesired within the European gene pool.. Survival of the fittest, the existance of a specie: Natural selection does not have an ending. But the genetic reproduction of individuals within a specie, does.

I have always thought that overthrowing the state, or taking it over by their own rules, were the only ways --
but with this memetic warfare you made be aware of, it is a war of patience by injecting individual by individiual, with an idea.
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Memes alter the form of natural selection.
They are meta-genetics, if you will.

When someone is convinced he's been impregnated with an idea, the sperm of the meme, the culture.

We are surrounded by a singular, monotheistic, absolutist, nihilistic, anti-nature, anti-self, anti-life, meme.
This meme propagates like a virus. It attacks the weakest, most feeble, and then spreads.
It is a parasitical meme because it contradicts itself - Jewish Paradox...or the many Nihilistic paradoxes based on language I've explored on this forum.
It creates, like cancer, an alternate life-form within the one it feeds upon.

Emotion, is its contagion carrier, its way around the autoimmune system (reason). It is how it gets into the brain.
It needs to grow by infecting constantly...see Capitalism and this obsession with growing markets.  It does so because it kills the host, it drains it of life-energy, it saps it of substance and leaves behind a husk, a void, a shell - a zombie.  
It condemns itself to death, by doing this, and so it must find more health to feed upon.

Was not Christianity and Islam about spreading their gospel. Judaism was more about consolidation and so it closed the doors to conversions with their "chosen" bullshit.
Their was a dogma of defence, and victimhood was, and is, their binding ideal.
That Zionism has taken other routes, through its contact with Hellenism, is to be expected. It also leads to the contradictions.
How do you justify power when you thrive on being the eternal victims?
Now the infection is beginning to show itself.

Some claim to be the apostles of "love", but look how easy it is to make them become hateful.
It's a thin layer of hypocrisy....the manimal reverts to its true nature when the rules are broken or it is stressed.
They say Negroes are well-adjusted to European culture...but just look at them when the law and order breaks down, and they go ape-shit.
Like a domesticate pet. It behaves when you are around, but as soon as you are not around it becomes the same creature it was before you tried to tame it.

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Once you've inject a mind with an idea which is powerful, that it makes sense and it agrees with the organism's experiences, you do not need to do more. The idea will grow, though the mind may rebel against it, trying to kill it.

This is true for female minds and infantile, retarded psychologies: in time the idea may take over the conciousness, and the organism will remain convinced that it was its own or that it never thought differently.

I've seen it happen...with Purple Dragon for one.
Another, less complete example, is Joe Schmoe....

Usually what happens is that the mind feels embarrassed for being stupid.
To protect itself it begins to believe that it thought the same thing before it came into contact with the idea...and though it attacked the idea.
Then it will place the one who infected it with the idea of being itself, before it was infected.
A role reversal. It will accuse the one who dominated, mind-fucked it, of being the opposite to the idea, so as to protects itself from the fact that it just or penetrated and fertilized, and it is now gestating a new baby idea: half the one who fertilized it, half its own psychology, experiences, history, DNA.

The idea can now take a different route.

Sometimes the idea is so powerful that the feeble organism fears being destroyed by it.
This is where its defensive mechanisms kick in to protect it from an awareness that it know it cannot cope with....intuitively knowing that it will shatter it.
This is more true in minds that have invested a lot upon the previous idea, no matter how weak and pathetic it might be.
Young minds are more open to memetic fertilization.

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Thank you,

Is not having some degree of anti-life healthy for society?
For what to fight if they all have is nothing more than squared boxes we live in, called homes?
Submit in some degree to be free.

A friend of mine with who i correspond with wrote: ''if life is realism, what is the benefit of the meeks to follow your order?
Materialism is not the answer, we need the poor to fight our wars, as they wil always be in the majority,
if you don't love them, they will not love you, and if they have nothing to gain for in the next life, well,
they just live like rock stars, short but full of self gratifications.
The meeks are not to be destroyed, but to be guided, in exchange for your guidance and support, they will give you power.
And in order to do that, you must not come in conceitous manner.''

And this is a form of memetic warfare to inject people with the idea to be self-centered regarding consumption of useless material?
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This is the message in Plato's Protagoras...or in my phrase "I like you exactly the way you are".
In my opinion the reason why Nietzsche used such prose, rather than being more direct, like Schopenhauer - who I admire because of it), is also for the same reason. He, Nietzsche, as addressing the few, not the myriads who he knew would read and misinterpret. He wanted them to misunderstand; he spoke over their heads.

I also say that philosophy is not for everyone...and why I am an elitist...and why I do not want to change the world.
The world as the average nihilist means it, is the world of men....the man-made world. Nature contradicts the current one and does not give a shit what the puny humans make-believe in their tiny sheltered enclaves.
Taking "the world" to mean the "manmade world" as it is - Modernity - what I see is another envirnment I must adapt, and survive within, without losing myself in it.

What did I once say about "a tribe within a tribe"?

The idea they propose is that the majority of creatures inhabiting this artificial reality are human. I challenge their definition of human. I see a variety of creatures which are not my kind.
I refuse to identify myself with these creatures.
I am kind to them, as I am to a dog, a cat, a worm, a pig.
I play with them...I may cohabitate with them and exploit them...or ignore them.
But I do not identify myself with them...on a memetic level.

They created and now support a non-genetic world, where nature is excluded and new definitions apply. I accept this from then, since there is nowhere to escape from their artificial constructs.
I then do what they urge me to do, but not in the way they want me to.
I redefine what they've caricatured, connecting it to the natural they pretend is not there.
I refuse to make of my loyalties, affections, respect, a whore's lust for material gain - my love is not free, nor is it cheap.

I choose who to love, respect, feel a kinship with...not these modern whores.
I do so by first defining the words.
I connect them to reality, and resist the temptation to become like them, casting them into the heavens as nothing more than words.

If this has a price, then I am willing to pay it.

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A non-genetic world.

These artificial societies need to collapse, total ''anarchy'', thus a breakloose from artificial environment, is needed for just a moment of time to return to our Biological order --
non-artificial Natural selection = Hierarchy.

When this will be achieved, the genes can take over control again too seek too replicate one's own genetic make-up,
which will be selective reproduction due to male competition and the female filter too select those who will benefit her and their offspring.
Memetic rule would play a less important role for a healthy moment of time.

Degenerates do not deserve, life is not holy; only, in some extents, for those who are willing to exist.
But how do you not loose yourself within their world, how can one not be continuesly irritated by their banal behavior and living.
Simply not caring about them -- most important of all, not identifying with them?
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Control the narrative by treating it as a kind of fashion. Probably using similar psychological marketing tactics as in the actual fashion industry. Suddenly 5 dollar handbag is worth 4000; its the same principle. Sheeple do anything to stay within the in-group, and marketers decide whats in style.

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Bernays (Jewish) was Freud's(Jewish) nephew.
He invented modern marketing, and the political methodology with his application of Freudian insights.

Have you seen Century of Self ?



Like all "outsiders" this viral meme has a unique perspective on the host body it infects.

The usage of sexual innuendoes to sell products - ideas being a product - is currently part of our nihilistic culture...while, at the very same time, some think Freud is "debunked" and that sexual nature is non-applicable when it comes to humans.
Many live within a culture using sex to manipulate behaviour and they deny its relevance.

But that's, as they say, the greatest trick the devil played, no?

The "purification" of motives is how one makes them more potent.
When you sanctify sex, you make it a more powerful instrument.
The unconscious mind is easier to manipulate...reason, masculinity, offers resistance.

The retention of minds at a pubescent phase makes them obsessed with self-discovery, sexual experimentation, exploration of ideas, with no focus...and so on.
Under the protective gaze of the dominant entity (State institution), the citizenry remains child-like. everything is a game...making everything non-threatening to the State institution, the alpha-male.

Ideas, philosophy, also a game...look at ILP. They can entertain any idea because none of it has any relevance. They already "know" the truth, and are living in "reality" so this "thinking" is only a pastime - philosophy is a candy, with no nutrition, that they suckle on to placate some intellectual needs. In the end their teeth rot, because the only ideas they suck-on the most are sugar-coated, sweet.

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Again see the nature of the experiment and persuading conclusion... a comparison with kids'...

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"All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus]

"The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.]

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Ours is theirs, theirs is theirs.

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Looking at the comments, those in support of the video/message bond with each other by expressing their mutual "disgust," how "appalled" they are, at all those "racists" who don't understand that, "The USA is a nation of immigrants. If you're not a full-blooded Native America, quit your belly-achin."

The implicit argument in the last quote is that only "full-blooded Native Americans" have any legitimate authority/right in expressing outRage.  If you're not a part of this group, "quit your belly-achin."  Ironically, if you're of English descent and can trace your lineage back far enough, you can be considered ethnically "American."  Although, I'm sure there's some liberal somewhere who is more than willing (and naturally, morally obliged) to write a poignant essay on how a European can never make this claim.  The vision of America must always be one grounded in all-inclusive principles that have no basis in race... Let's just forget about how ethno-centric the early English were... Or Let's conveniently separate the fruits of that early English spirit(the foundations/principles of America) with the people responsible and their intentions... "They had praiseworthy ideas but were victims of their times(racism)"

""The USA is a nation of immigrants. If you're not a full-blooded Native America, quit your belly-achin."

We see also in this type of argument the equivocation of non-European immigrants with European immigrants.  Even though their contribution can't touch that of European immigrants(German, Irish, Italian etc), they will either gloss over this FACT or they will argue that they might contribute greatly in the future, they just need the "opportunity," the same opportunity that all those other European immigrants had.

Yet another argument is that most Europeans are just regular, working type folks no different than your average non-European immigrant.  What differentiates one working class type who just wants to "provide for his family" from another?  Of course, if you say the graduation degradation of community or the exceptions come from this community, you will either be treated as a racist, or they might come back and say a new community takes time to grow... If you reply with crime statistics or any other facts surrounding these new "utopian" communities, you'll be seen as not "strong" enough, not "far-seeing" enough, to build towards a "greater" future.  Your value as a member of the community is in part(a big part) how you are able to acquiesce to this vision.  The simple divide is always those with a passion(strong) for the future(multicultural) and those with a passion(dying) for the past.

Another phenomenon you see is how, when smarter multiculturalists argue, they always do it in such a way as to never stray too far from the emotional approval of non-Europeans, while at the same time trying to cover as many of their bases as possible... in terms of historical details or scholarly counter-arguments to ANYTHING that could possibly be considered offensive to non-European sentiments, so they might be as comfortable as possible in the new paradigm... to prolong comfort as long as possible with as many as possible
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If you don't sympathize with the plight of non-Europeans in an "unwelcoming" western world, you lack heart.  The pain and hardship of the new immigrant becomes more "real" and "pressing/immediate"(pain requires attention and care management) than the pain of the assumed well-adjusted European, on account of just being European.  The pain is now a world pain of a global community, and the European is somehow seen as tasked/evolved to have to deal with it even if it costs him everything...Those who feel pain more acutely spending all their time trying to help those who feel pain on a lower level, those caught in the same stupid cycles... hopelessly trying to elevate those predestined to be stuck in their bodily impulses... the new retarded heroism maybe.
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wayne clark: ''The u.s. is a nation of immigrants, so people can become American.
It's just the way or country was set up. Our founders were immigrants.
Is not a personal attack on white people. Change is part of our culture.
And those who think they have lost something are not looking at what we have gained.
If you think you are going to take this nation back in time, your wasting your time.''


Elizabeth Nadler: ''There is no such thing as white culture.
Even amongst the European countries, the cultures are very different.
And no, the US was not in the stone age.
And it doesn't matter who originally settled here and fought to establish the US.
The world changes.''

Saeid Nourian: ''100 years from now when all people on earth are the same color and speak a same language
it will become very clear how meaningless your idea of "white" is.
Give it up, in this age of world connectivity it's meaningless to define people by color and culture.
For better or worse, all cultures will belong to museums soon. We are evolving to be more than that.''



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A visual aid, displaying the plight of the modern, everyday, nihilist, now calling himself "progressive", an "optimist", "enlightened", or, hold onto something, "healthy".

''The "progress" towards infinite, absolute, chaos, a uniformity of possibility, means no life, no consciousness, the nihilists dream state where no pain and suffering are possible because nothing is conscious.''

''A modern's projections towards future are always more substantial than his awareness of self, of the past (nature).
In fact, to be Modern is to identify with the coming, the future, and to be free of the past; it is to be in the current, in the moment, in the coming (fashionable, popular, progressive).''

''He is a "progressive" in this sense: the future, whatever it may be, can only be better than what is, and what was.
Not because he has dealt with it, explored it, understood it, come to terms with it, and not because he has come-up with methods to adapt, but because he has selectively rejected it, depending on immediate cosmetic interventions, and a shared lie.
This shared lie is what he demands all, in his environment, adhere to: a social contract.
It is the shared comforting, grooming, need, language has evolved to satisfy.''

''We are all progressing towards a uniformity, a unity, where all sins(the past - sex, race, blood, genes) are forgiven, forgotten.
What must be cleansed away? Sex, Race...the genetic.''



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''What has been declared dead?

Man's nature, human past.
Now it’s no more than a place to visit, like a park, a zoo, or in the mausoleum to reminisce over a long lost relative.
Man is released from his past... he is now Modern.
He forgets, denies, and reinvents himself with words. Whatever he cannot turn away from, his appearance, he redefines, he declares shallow, inapplicable.''

''Modern man has castrated himself from his nature.
He can now make himself new (reborn), identifying with the most recent, or the most hopeful yet-to-come.
He has no obligation to anyone, or to anything but himself.

Modern man does not live in the past, nor the present, for that matter. He exists as a future possibility, as a fantasy, a pure idea(l); one that is always on its way, always full of possibilities because it is unrestricted by probabilities determined by an unforgiving nature, a determining past.''
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Fresh off the Youtube Frontpage!
Because Africa has so much to do with the cold climates right?


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Just when you think you've seen it all. The multi-racial choir of a new dawn, lead by a pretty white girl partnered by some adult African male(displaying physical movements of an African, beating his drum etc) all within this strange attempt at a "magical" theme. African music communicated by a multi-racial group bursting through the eternal Icy European home, the African "dawn" displacing the Northern sun? The mixing of themes, the distinction of people and places obsolete. Everyone is "home" everywhere.

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0:07 ''Featuring Alex Boyé as the Ice King''.

-A negroid to represent the ''Ice King'', does not Tommy Sotomayor call us 'Snow Birds' and 'Snow Kings and Queens'? Snow, not a unknown association with White people. This has the meaning of a negro taking the Throne of the White man as a representative of the new Europa.

0:14 ''and introducing Lexi Walker as the Snow Princess''

-With a pretty White girl playing the role as ''Snow Princess'', assuming her to be the representative as the daughter of the ''king'' (and/or wife). The negroid being the father and the girl being White, biological impossible. Demeaning White women as being the property of all and not belonging to White males (and vice-versa) for only White men and White women can have White offspring with each other.

0:27 ''a Kingdom of isolation (iso/ice rhymes)''

-A rhyming link being made with iso-lation (lation=ordening) and ice; an icy place is isolated, a Utopia of all White homogeneous countries, mainly Europa the continent of Whites, being heterogeneous with non-Whites and mongrels living amongst us, ruling us.

The chorus: 1:05 ''Let it go''

-Let go your past, heritage and genetic makeup.
Give it all up for the die-verse Utopia, take on a new self-being, a new skin - identification.

1:59 ''No right or wrong, no morals for me - i am free''

-No objection against miscegenation, be free of your past, be free of the sum of your whole being and let us all be unified.

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