_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
Jarno
Gender : Posts : 2282 Join date : 2015-08-27 Age : 32 Location : Finland
I've tried to learn this for few weeks, probably still continue and see if I ca learn to do it properly. It's really cool. It was harder than I thought at first, requires some coordination skills...It works out the brains too, at least for me.
Stalagmites
Gender : Posts : 70 Join date : 2014-09-01 Age : 29 Location : River
Yes, I too started with that one, Jarno - he is an extremely good hearted man with very noble traits; he was my teacher in Moscow.
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
It was for me too hard to coöridnate all the body parts especially for those who have never danced before. First start with the legs, then the arms and then synchronize all the movements in symbiotic harmony. Though they may self-project ''it is not that hard'' - well, it is if you do not have it in your blood nor grew up among dance and rhythm; I have to pick it up again, could have trained so much but did not; and need to work on rhythm.
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
Jarno
Gender : Posts : 2282 Join date : 2015-08-27 Age : 32 Location : Finland
Though they may self-project ''it is not that hard'' - well, it is if you do not have it in your blood nor grew up among dance and rhythm; I have to pick it up again, could have trained so much but did not; and need to work on rhythm.
Yes, I guess it's not in "blood" if earlier generations have not danced enough...I don't remember where I read this, but for example when Christianity came to Finland (large continent, I don't know which region exactly), they "banned" dancing because people would just spend their time dancing instead of working.
I still and always will identify myself as Karelian (Karjala) even though I now live near Helsinki for various reasons, like I might have already told this. In the west, and north-west near the sea they speak a lot of Swedish and some even refuse to speak Finnish.
Even the nearest region to Karelia, Savonia has much different people in there, streotypes live on. In Karelia they say that "Savonians are twisted, never trust them".
From another page: " Other Finns see Karelians as lively, outgoing, talkative, and humorous. These features are not usually connected to Finns in general. Karelians also have their own traditions, cuisine, and dialect, for example. "
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
That is the same throughout the world; there is not ''A White people''; we have Frisians and Hollanders as the most contrasting in NL and then many more other provincial blood characteristics. It goes deeper than just football rivalry, though due to being cut off from past, people start to identify with city numbers - literally; ''020 Amsterdam, we are the best / you are tha man!''. And thus they wear it on T-shirts or grafitti or just talk like such. And of course the language rivalry as in Belgium: ''you are a good negro if you speak Dutch, but if you speak French or are a White French speaking native, you do not belong here'' mentality.
Xtianity destroyed many ancient traditions or inverted them or covered them in Xtian theft. Why is ''hopa/ hopakee / hopla / huppa'' used so much in Dutch ([H]OPA, an expressive word universally used throughout Eurasia, mainly used during dance), derived from old-Germanic 'hop' - to jump, similarity to, I suspect, to 'huppelen', sort of joyous movements I suspect leftovers from old tradtional ''Dutch'' dances pre-Xtianity or Protestantism, pre-Netherland nation. Just my own thoughts and connections. But to expect the Dutch to dance again alike to their pagan ancestors, their collective mindset is culled to much into a flat mentality, high in many aspects yes, but flat in regards to behaviour, expression, condemnation if raising your head above the rest - though they can really appreciate the dances as many have 'Greek-fever' but won't understand them.
In regards to rhythm, yesterday I took one dance lesson from a teacher I did non intended at first to learn from (posters are hung everywhere in Tbilisi, cheap price and very nearby - gave it a try before attending) but may go more often next to the actual intended lessons from another further away; buth teachers I think will have an different approach - but I do not know if it is a disrespect to have more teachers for the same kind of dances, as many take respect, joy and pride in their pupil(s), to see their elements, their work, investments, patience etc., growing within you. Anyway, it is I think that I listen so much to their traditional folk music that I have started to understand the rhythm without noticing, it is much more clearer to me now, and the Greek dancing teacher who literally spend whole lessons focusing upon the rhythm also sharpened my feeling.
But many people take joy into sharing their cultural elements with you as a foreigner (as long selectivity is still in use and that people won't take joy in sharing with negroes and hedonists) such as language, dances, things about your land - it is as if you share your legacy, part of your self with others, in a good manner. Though many Dutch do not like to share their language too much, one even told me we should not share it for it is 'a secret language' - but how much of a exclusivity it is with so many negroes and ex-slaves on other continents speaking it.
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
Hrodeberto
Gender : Posts : 1318 Join date : 2014-07-14 Age : 37 Location : Spaces
I already have found a teacher and start next Tuesday.
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
The dance is 'typical' (thus regardless of choreography), and considering they are a mountain people, thus preserved from the lower-lands and foreign elements even if shared genes, their dance(s) show a character you can say is European as many movements you can find too in other European dances though the Goralen are, untouched by such influence, still distinctive European as you can find only among our peoples from the West to the East to the South; culled, living and growing in distinct locations, yet share the same inborn expressions. Can you imagine a group of niggers honouring their work, their environment, celebrating their sweat - I see a people who are characterized in their own way, by the mountain-forests they live among.
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
_________________ 1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born? Say whose son thou art, Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened, And struck thy sword to my heart."
2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go A motherless man abroad; Father I had not, | as others have, And lonely ever I live."