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Truth cannot be explored without value-judgements to guide the exploration; or more accurately, “value-attributes”. Without these ‘value-attributes’ the method of inquiry becomes nihilistic because it has no relation to what pertains to the mind within objective reality. To ask why is “Beethoven’s 9th symphony “beautiful” has no chance of success without its presupposition of beauty associated with it so as to lead to a wider perspective. “Will to truth” makes of truth an ideal. The ideal cannot be the truth, because it is not attainable. The ideal can take on a form of truth so long as it remains objectively mutable. Making truth itself a teleological pursuit, forces it into a state of decline, which is the undermining of thinking processes by turning probabilities into absolutes themselves. Nietzsche’s “revaluation method”, suggested a form of irrationalism, an extreme correction based on the severity of the intellectual degradation of Christianity, in order to overturn the severity of its influence of self-defeating modern beliefs. But it was precisely the “extremeness” of this overturning method, which put into effect profound ramifications of nihilism because this method was undertaken by average minds with no philosophical temperament to grasp its meaning.

Philosophy, the creative arts, has now fallen into the hands of the lowest minds, the common minds, the simpletons, the desperate, the insane. It lost its place in the aristocratic ethos, appropriated by the inferior.
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This is how I think of transvaluation. A radical overturning of values and how to evaluate corrupted over centuries of Abrahamic nihilism.
An overhauling of everything that was taken for granted.

For me 'truth' only means a perspective which is held to be more probable - a subjective claim on objectivity.
It's value can only be a product of a triangulation with the objective as the standard of judging its objectivity.
If the objective is unreal or supernatural or irrational, then the quality of a truth remains indefinitely unresolved - forever perfect as a theory.
If the objective is within the experienced world then its evaluation is easy.

Nihilism places the objective beyond existence - defines it out of existence - maintaining its 'truths' as unresolved and eternally pure and perfect.
A form of romantic idealization.
Nietzsche was a romantic.

Science defines and describes the real, determining what is most probably real, and which objectives are within the realm of the real.
Value and value-judgements are only possible for living organisms. Only life has a goal, an objective, so only for life can the concept of 'value' apply.
A stone has no intrinsic value, but acquires value by an organism that wants to use it to build a home.

So how does 'truth' acquire value? From the objective.
If objectivity, clarity, is the goal, then truth has value.
True, morality and mythology are demystified and for the majority they lose their power.
An objective understanding of morality diminishes its impact upon the common mind - it decreases its mystical impact on minds that need this to remain disciplined to its threat/reward promise.
Truth diminishes romantic idealism.
Nietzsche was a romantic, but he could not practice it. He sought truth, and then warned against it because he saw how it worked in him; how this drive towards objective truth decreased his ability to surrender to impulses, and myths, without questioning their veracity.
He could not become Dionysian and surrender to his intrinsics and impulses; he never left myths obscure and untouched by his reasoning.
And so he never married or had children.

There is a danger in this...as Socrates also realized. The common man needs lies and myths and untruths to remain healthy and engaged and happy.

A philosopher seeks truth at the risk of his health, and survival. It's value is in relation to the objective, which is objectivity, or an approach to the highest possible point of clarity and understanding a human can attain.


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Giving yourself new objectives - rather than the ones you've been given or are popular - adjust your relationship with reality, and with this adjustment you change the value of everything, because value only has meaning in relation to an objective.
This is the arena of free-will. To will a different relationship with the world, and in this adjustment to alter your own destiny.

Belief, conviction, is an adjustment of this relationship.
The soldier, in the example given in the lecture, that believes he will survive a battle increases the possibility of this being realized; a patient that believes he will defeat the cancer he is dying from increases the probabilities that he will do so.
Subjectivity is a continuous dialogue - relationship - with the objectively real; you constantly affect world and world affects you.
This is the power of the lie, or the illusion. It doesn't actually change reality but it increases probabilities for achieving a desired goal.
Mind engages reality through the body. I think of it as a multiplier of the body's potentials.

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Satyr wrote:

Mind engages reality through the body. I think of it as a multiplier of the body's potentials.

I like this thought. The purpose of the myth as he discusses, also sheds some light on the objective idealism.

Mythology, specifically of pagan polytheism, sets an idealistic standard of imperfection, relating to the identity of oneself. The myth is an aesthetic of the imagination and inspires the “striving-for” of the philosophical spirit. In Christianity, nothing can be pursued because it has been “resolved” in absolute submission to a hierarchical order that one has no place in. The illusion of the myth is attainable by its representation of our longings for value and our potential.

I like to think of the ideal as the "prime mover" of oneself to attain a higher ability, the motivation for self-actualization, the powerful stimulation of action. For example, to view a mountain as a "symbol" of power, evokes a physical will, summons a physical strength to climb it. The ideal is a form of strength based on its challenge to the limitations of oneself, to overcome oneself.

Nietzsche wrote:
He who attains his ideal, by that very fact, transcends it

So, to arrive at a part of the objective is to realize a part of oneself, while remaining in a state of need, but increasing potential.
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This is why I consider nihilism as the defensive reaction to self-awareness.
The degree to which you can accept the truth about yourself determines the degree to which you will evade falling into nihilism seeking salvation in its lies.

The average man cannot tolerate too much reality. He inevitably turns to nihilism for relief.

Only a god would endure pure objectivity...perhaps an overman is a description of a mythological future man that can endure it.

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An attained ideal is, in effect, a realistic one - an ideal realized. There are no absolutes, therefore the realized ideal - the realizable objective - is like a mountain peak. There are higher peaks.....there is no end to the ascent. Once the pinnacle is attained, you've transcended it just by standing upon it - the gaze now turns upward, towards higher pinnacles, to leave this one below.

Nihilism projects the objective beyond existence - defines it - as I often say - out of existence, so as to cynically ridicule it, or to justify never attaining it, or to produce a uniformity of failure - a collective weakness.

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Alexander Dugin wrote:


Postmodernism and the Synchronistic
Understanding of Civilisation


Even the most cursory survey of the meaning of the term civilisation shows that, in using it, we are dealing with a concept saturated with the spirit of the Enlightenment, progressivism and historicism, which was characteristic for the epoch of modernity in its uncritical stage; that is, until the fundamental reconsiderations of the Twentieth century. Faith in the progressive development of history, in the universality of the human path according to a common logic of development from savagery to civilisation, was the distinguishing feature of the Nineteenth century. But already with Nietzsche and Freud, the so-called ‘philosophers of suspicion’, this optimistic axiom started to be doubted. And over a period of the Twentieth century, Heidegger, the existentialists, traditionalists, structuralists, and at last postmodernists smashed it to bits. In postmodernity, criticism of historical optimism, universalism and historicism acquired a systematic character and established the doctrinal premises for a total revision of the conceptual apparatus of Western European philosophy. This revision itself has not yet been carried out to its conclusion, but what has been done (by Levi-Strauss, Barthes, Ricoeur, Foucalt, Deleuze, Derrida, and others) is already enough to convince one of the impossibility of using the dictionary of modernity without a thorough and rigorous deconstruction. Paul Ricoeur, summarising the theses of the ‘philosophers of suspicion, paints the following picture: man and man’s society consist in rational-conscious components (kerigma, according to Bultmann;‘superstructure’, according to Marx; ‘ego’, to Freud) and the unconscious (properly, ‘structures’ in the Structuralist understanding; ‘bases’; ‘the will to power’ of Nietzsche; ‘the unconscious’). And although externally it seems that the path of man leads directly from the captivity of the unconscious to the kingdom of reason, and that this exactly represents progress and the content of history, in fact, under the closest scrutiny, it becomes clear that the unconscious (‘myth’) proves much stronger and, as before, considerably predetermines the work of the intellect. Moreover, reason itself and conscious, logical activity is almost always nothing other than a gigantic work of repressing unconscious impulses — in other words, an expression of complexes, strategies of displacement, the substitution of projection, and so on. In Marx, the unconscious is played by ‘the forces of production’ and ‘industrial relations’. Consequently, civilisation does not merely remove ‘savagery’ and ‘barbarism’, entirely overcoming them, but itself is built precisely on‘savage’ and ‘barbaric’ grounds, which transfer to the sphere of the unconscious, but there is not only nowhere to escape from this, but, on the contrary, they acquire unlimited power over man, to a large extent precisely because they are thought to be overcome, and even non-existent. This explains the striking difference between the historical practices of nations and societies, full of warfare, oppression, cruelty, and wild outbursts of terror, abounding in aggravating psychological disorders, and the pretensions of reason to a harmonious, peaceful and enlightened existence under the shadow of progress and development. In this respect, the modern era is not only not an exception but also the peak of the intensification of this discrepancy between the pretensions of reason and the bloody reality of world wars, ethnic cleansing, and the historically unprecedented mass genocides of entire races and narodi . And in terms of savagery, modernity possesses the most perfect technical means invented by civilisation, right up to weapons of mass destruction. Thus, the critical tradition, structuralism and the philosophy of postmodernity force one to move from the mainly diachronic (phased) interpretation of civilisation, which was the norm for the Nineteenth century and which, by inertia, continues to be widely in use, to the synchronic. The synchronic approach assumes that civilisation comes not instead of savagery or barbarity, not after them, but together with them and continues to coexist with them. One can imagine civilisation as the numerator, and savagery-barbarism as the denominator of a conditional fraction. Civilisation affects consciousness, but the unconscious, through the unceasing ‘work of dreams’ (Freud), constantly misinterprets everything in its favour. Savagery is that which explains civilisation, and is the key to it. It turns out that man hurried to proclaim ‘civilisation’ as that which already actually happened, while it remains not more than an incomplete plan, constantly suffering disruption under the onslaught of the cunning energies of the unconscious (however we might understand it: as Nietzschean ‘will to power’, or psychoanalytically).
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Alexander Dugin wrote:

Liberalism and Postmodernity


Having gone over from the formal opposition to the alternative ideologies to the new phase of introduction on the world scale, the liberal ideology changes its status. In the epoch of modernity, liberalism always coexisted with nonliberalism, which means that it was an object of choice; like with modern computer technology, where one can theoretically select a computer with a Microsoft, Mac OS or Linux operating system. After defeating its rivals, liberalism brought back a monopoly on ideological thinking; it became the sole ideology, not allowing any other alongside itself. One could say that it switched over from the level of a programme to the level of an operating system, having become something common. Notice, coming to a store and selecting a computer, we more often than not do not say, ‘Give me a computer that runs Microsoft.’ We simply say, ‘Give me a computer.’ And in accordance with our silence, we are sold a computer with a Microsoft operating system. So it is with liberalism: it is implanted in us by itself, like something standard, which it would be absurd and pointless to contest. The content of liberalism changes, switching over from the level of expression to the level of speech. Liberalism becomes not proper liberalism, but sub-audition, silent agreement, consensus. This corresponds to the switchover from the epoch of modernity to postmodernity. In postmodernity, liberalism, preserving and even increasing its influence, ever more rarely projects an intelligent and freely adopted political philosophy; it becomes unconscious, self-understood and instinctive. This instinctive liberalism, having pretences to transform itself into the generally non-conscious ‘matrix’ of contemporariness, gradually acquires grotesque characteristics. From the classical principles of liberalism, which have become unconscious (‘the world reserve unconscious’ could be used as an analogy alongside the dollar as the ‘world reserve currency’), the grotesque ways of postmodern culture are born. This is already a sui generis post-liberalism, following from the total victory of classical liberalism, but leading it to extreme conclusions.  Thus there arises the panorama of post-liberal grotesques:

• The measure of things becomes not the individual, but the post-individual, ‘the dividual’, accidentally playing an ironic combination of parts of people (his organs, his clones, his simulacra — all the way up to cyborgs and mutants);

• Private property is idolised, ‘transcendentalised’, and transforms from that which a man owns to that which owns the man;

• Equality of opportunity turns into equality of the contemplation of opportunities (the society of the spectacle — Guy Debord);

• Belief in the contractual character of all political and social institutions grows into an equalisation of the real and the virtual, and the world becomes a technical model;

• All forms of non-individual authorities disappear altogether, and any individual is free to think about the world howsoever he sees fit (the crisis of common rationality);

• The principle of the separation of powers transforms into the idea of a constant electronic referendum (a sort of electronic parliament), where each Internet user continually ‘votes’ on any decision by giving his opinion in any number of forums, which in turn cedes power to each individual citizen (each becoming, in effect, his own branch of government);

• ‘Civil society’ completely displaces government and converts into a global, cosmopolitan melting pot;

• From the thesis ‘economy is destiny’ it takes up the thesis ‘the numerical code — that is destiny’, so far as work, money, the market, production, consumption — everything becomes virtual. Some liberals and neoconservatives were terrified at that prospect, which opened up as a consequence of the ideological victory of liberalism, before the transition to post-liberalism and postmodernity. Thus, Fukuyama, the author of the thesis of the liberal ‘end of history’ in the last decade, has called on the US and the West ‘to turn back’ and to hold over the previous phase of ‘vintage’ classical liberalism, with the market, the nation-state and its customary scientific rationalism, in order to avoid sliding into the post-liberal chasm. But in this, he is contradicting himself: the logic of the transformation from normal liberalism to the liberalism of postmodernity is neither arbitrary nor voluntary; it is written in the very structure of the liberal ideology: in the course of the gradual liberation of man from all that which is not himself (from all non-human and supra-individual values and ideals), one must sooner or later free a man from his own self. And the most frightening crisis of the individual does not begin when he is fighting alternative ideologies that deny man is the highest value, but when he attains his conclusive and irreversible victory.
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Alexander Dugin wrote:
Globalisation is the death of time. Globalisation cancels out the transcendental subjectivity of Husserl or the Dasein of Heidegger. There would be neither any more time, nor being.

If globalisation continues, what is the fate of subjectivity? What is the ontology of the future that will — probably — never happen? A fairly unorthodox theory could be suggested. Let us assume that multipolarity is stillborn, that history has ended, and that the project of globalization has become a reality. How will the final exorcism of transcendental subjectivity be performed? How will ‘the final decision’ concerning the abolition of Dasein be implemented? After all, as long as mankind and societies exist, they should make this decision for themselves. It is impossible to make an appeal to the Other which could be blamed or praised for the decision and its result. Such a reference to the Other is acceptable only when the Self and the Other are one and the same. If we lose our identity, we will also lose alterity, the capacity for ‘otherness’, and thus the ability to distinguish between self and not-self, and consequently to assume the existence of any alternative viewpoint. So we are the authors of the end of history which concerns ourselves and no one else.
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Life is a manifestation of order - it depends on order; it is attracted by order; it can only conceive or reduce everything to a form of order; it constructs order.
It can only conceptualize chaos as a state of complex order, hiding an obscure or occult order.

Underlying its dualities - the binaries of its conceptualizations - is the presumption of an absolute final order - its binaries are founded on biorhythms of systolic/diastolic cellular phases which are states of one and the same organic process, therefore linguistic dualities express this underlying presumption of a hidden singularity, i.e., an absolute oneness, a whole.
Modernity expressed this belief in an absolute singularity in many forms, using many different words - all secular adaptations of god, the spiritual version of the same presumption.

Post-Modernism simply surrendered to absurdity and its own impulsive rebellious skepticism, converting the absolute from that of order to that of chaos - a presumption of self-contradiction, since it still relied on reason and order to make its claim of absolute knowledge - promoting irrationality to conceal its rationalized understanding of chaos.
Modernity set the stage for post-modernity to usher in the final phase of its decline - the Last Man is a post-modern being, alienated from itself, existing in a state of perpetual anti-modernity - always up-to-date, and final in its negation of a non-existent state of absolute being, knowing, understanding, power. He is the last because there is nowhere to go from there but back to the start, or forward into nothingness - he is the pinnacle of progress from rationalism to anti-rationalism which cannot be refuted by reason since it has already rejected its own refutation with its own unreasoning.

I once posted something on this called Gordian Knot.
Post-modernism, in short, is a linguistic self-referenmtial ruse, fabricating interloping, solipsistic, weaves, that seem to be directed towards something when they are linking back into their own conceptual webs; creating a noetic womb, a semiotic nest, that encompasses the post-modern "last man" in a seemingly protective shell of meaningless symbols and words.
The last man is comfortably entangled and cannot move forward nor backward - trapped in his own subjectivity.
In between Heaven and Hell is what was called "limbo" in the Catholic canon - neither saved nor damned - forever awaiting release.

The only motive left to the post-modern "Last Man" is to entrap all men in his predicament - the motive of a slave who cannot escape his slavery.

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Analysis and critique of psot-modernism from a modernist.


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In Satyrean....
Humanity = World & World = Humanity, ergo politics is epistemology.
Not epistemology determined political discourse, but political discourse establishes epistemology.

Truth is a human creation validated by power relationships, and is detached from an objective world that lies beyond human or organic hierarchies and relationships.
Rather than organic hierarches being determined by natural order, relative to life, it is inverted - in classic nihilistic style - as human social order determining natural order.
All is subjective, ergo all is a product of how subjectivity relates with itself - a power struggle.
The world is left outside, ignored, forgotten and concealed.
Reality is shaped through human power conflicts.
Rather than "right establishes the conditions for the development of might," it is Might is Right simply by being mighty.
Rather than being right, i.e., correct, about the world, reality, you are simply "right" because you have more "might", and might comes from nowhere, is based on nothing but describes a relationship of 'I' with another, ironically also denied relevance.
All is subjective ergo all is a victim of tis own ignorance - code for all are sinners deserving salvation if they admit their sin.
A mind game attempting to reduce all to a moral imperative, because morality describes and validates relationships of the powerful towards the powerless.
Power based on nothing, coming from nowhere but from a willful imposition upon another - an act of brutality.
To dominate another does not come from a quantitative advantage of knowledge and a superior understanding of world - a qualitative understanding of knowledge - or of self and other, but it comes from domination itself, i.e., power is powerful, and power is right - it is truth and beautiful and good.

Nihilistic inversions.  
In Christian nihilism logos precedes action, and action is the product or extension of logos - i.e., logos is god, god is logos.
Creation encompassed in semiotics - self-validating, self-referential, self-empowering...ergo creation extends only as far as logos is potent - where logos is impotent, nothing exists.

We can trace this back to mind/body....rather than mind being an extension of body ion nihilistic spirituality it is body which is an extension of mind and mind is universal - one - preceding the physical.
All is subjective implies this Christian belief that all is a product of a mind, and there is nothing outside or without a mind. Reduction of reality to sensual interpretation - a tree falling in a forest, if it is not heard by an ear - makes on sound; can be denied to have fallen at all, or have ever existed.
Its interaction with atmosphere, and with its environment, as it falls, if it is not perceived and translated by a mind into sensual datum, into an abstraction and then given a symbol, a word, can be denied to have occurred at all - in radical nihilism there is no world outside the interpreting mind; there is no world independent from an interpreting mind - or all interpretations are equally valid because they are all equally imperfect prejudiced interpretations of an event - equality via the absence of absolute knowledge, i.e., omniscience.
Either/Or: either it is absolutely, unequivocally, true, or it is equally untrue - and by absolutely we mean indivisible, immutable, whole, complete, perfect, eternal - singularity. Whatever fails to attain this criterion is automatically reduced to its equally and opposite absurdity - if not one then nil; if not absolute order, then absolute chaos; if not absolute good, then absolute evil; if not absolute universal morality then immorality is universal and absolute; either all is rational or all is irrational; either all is intuitive, or all is counter-intuitive.
Abrahamism leads to Marxism, and post-modernity follows to "correct" Marxism's application failures.
The approach from economics is abandoned for the more spiritual, Abrahamic, tried and tested, moral approach. Now Marxism abandons its pseudo-scientific secular past and enters the emotional realms of irrational religiosity.

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You can't hope to find a cure for what you've failed to identify and trace its roots back to when it was still immature and less experienced with its own survival strategy; back when it first came out of its mother's womb and it was still learning to walk and talk. When you’ve done that, then you may proceed to identify its maternal lineage to better grasp the codes you need to decipher and rewrite back to the original.

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Everything nihilistic is a linguistic inversion of reality.
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Victim means victimizer.
Woke, means asleep.
Liberty, means slavery.
Truth, means deceit.
Light, means dark, and dark, means light.

Reveal, means conceal.

All nihilistic jargon is a corruption.
Humanity = world; world = humanity.
Chosen = rejected.
Positive = negative.
Oneness = nil.


There's nothing restricting language but human imagination and power, because words are no longer connectors of noumena to phenomena, i.e. the idea/ideal with the real, the esoteric with the exoteric; genes to memes.
Words refer to more words; ideas to other ideas; abstractions to other abstractions.
All is subjective, with no objective to discipline itself to, other than inter-subjectivity, i.e., human hierarchies, human power dynamics.

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Nietzsche intended after all, to sow chaos, and the runaway post-modern scientific rationalism was the chaotic imbalance created from the overturning of values and beliefs; the other side of the nihilistic coin, overcompensating. His error was believing that an age of greater spirits would flourish from this cataclysm, not the malignant intellectually impoverished state of decline and degeneracy we have now. Idealism cannot be pragmatic.

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A nice explanation of postmodern degeneracy.

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Trace it back to Gnosticism. Kabbalism is inspired by it.
Nihilism evolves, but not like natural evolution because it is, or strives to become, detached from reality - nature, as the sum of all nurturing - and so it has limitless options, limited only by its ability to seduce, to convert and gather a following - memetic evolution is linguistic....the lingo evolves, its fitness a measure of its popularity, its ability to infect and effect human minds, the reward? Relief from need/suffering. ideological intoxication, gradually detaching mind form the brain's attachments to the body the physical, the source of all "evil", i.e., reality, nature, world, cosmos - liberation, freedom, form the past - body being this past made present as presence.

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Female warfare - linguistic undermining of reality, by attacking the psychology - certainty, confidence, masculinity etc.
They learned this from...you know who.
The peak of the victim hierarchies, within Americanism contexts.
Linguistic seduction is the next phase, if the first fails.

Words must be disconnected from their original external referents - sensual, empirical - and rendered meaningless or as part of the psychological panoply of Abrahamic and then Marxist and then Modern, PostModern dialectics.
A linguistic virus attempting to exploit human existential anxiety, in relation to a cosmos with no absolute certainty, no meaning, no god, no morality, as they've defined these concepts - let's include no free-will, no biological identifiers, no objective reality...all is subjective, ideology, which places this in the dialectic of power - strength/weakness also being social constructs - absolute binaries through which absolution must be achieved.
Exploitation of skepticism - the human condition of incompleteness, imperfection, mutability, mortality - of absent absolutes.

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Such conversations are infantile, at the toddler or child level. All that is required is a modicum of Historical knowledge. When the English settlers landed on the shores of the United States in the 1600s, there was no word for "White", nor had this postmodern notion of "Race" been yet conceived. Surely people knew about the general differences and races of men around the world. But they had just met the American Indian, not yet received African slaves, and had very nuanced relationships even among those of their own British Isles.

To say that "white supremacy" is involved in the 'founding', is obviously false, but that is the whole point of these Liberal-Left-Commucrat fanatics. They have little scope and perspective, in fact, no perspective outside their indoctrinated (de)programming. Those who handle and control these minions, are also obvious.

The US 'education' (indoctrination) system has been compromised, by Marxists and Communists, who have long willed the destruction of the United States. Now their minions are gaining more and more power with each passing day. The rot will eventually win over, and the host-organism will die. The parasites are too numerous and can no longer be purged peacefully, without harm or death. Too much blood has been drained.

I lead this point to my "American Collapse" thread.
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Ricky Gervais throws cold-water on Wokeness:

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Postmodernism is the pinnacle of nihilism, rooted in Abrahamism.
All must begin with logos, the representation of meme, inverting the process which must begin with the action, as an expression, representation, of the gene.
Biology must become subservient to ideology - all must be ideological - idea/ideal given logos.

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The 60's was the peak of Americanism - 60's-90's - the beginning of the end of the American Empire.
A time when baby-boomers came of age - a generation nurtured on Hollywood and modern/postmodern values.


Paedophilia is the next paraphilia to be "liberated" - exiting the proverbial closet where it is presently imprisoned - in accordance with a "logic" that goes back to Abrahamism.
Logos before action....soul/spark trapped in the physical as a form of punishment for some primordial sin.
The physical, the tangible, is but an illusion, or a superficial cover for the "real" reality.
Sex, race, age, all meaningless biological identifiers, containing "divine sparks" of divinity that must be released in a final event of absolution, "healing" the world of its corruption, its evilness, its fallenness.
Binary....absolutes.
The forces of good fighting the forces of evil to finally release the divine spark (spirit) trapped in human beings.

If the system does not collapse - as it always has when such degeneracy decadence has been released - then the next "oppressed group" to be liberated are those practicing bestiality - correcting the wrongs of judging life according to its appearance and behaviour - its actions.
The final divisive factor of language would have been "overcome", since animals would be recognized as sparks of divinity despite their rudimentary use of linguistic communications - considered, up until now, to be lacking logos.
The ide of being divinely chosen and marked symbolically - rewarded with an ideology reserved only for those that have proven that they deserve to be given such occult knowledge - would have finally been breached.
See, the issue of consent is also logocentric.
According to postmoderns a twelve and/or thirteen year old can give consent, his/her word, but these limitations can be adjusted when the issue is ideology and not psychosomatic biology.
Thee is no linguistic limit to what can be ideologically justified if a creative will is present, and a group has been thoroughly indoctrinated - social engineering the proper New World Order.
All our human prejudices will have finally been cast aside and inclusion will be our reward - an ideological "overcoming" of the flesh.
Memes usurping Genes.

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...through Abrahamism - spiritualized nihilism - through Modernity - French Revolution, political, socialized nihilism - through Marxism - secularized, institutionalized nihilism - and now through Postmodernism - racialized, sexualized nihilism, a slow decline into madness.
Madness - a disconnect from reality.

*Concepts referring to other concepts, circumventing the experienced - empirical - world.
Ideology - ideas given logos - pushed to the extreme where words/symbols no longer serve as a nexus connecting mind with the body, the physical, but serve as a nexus of disconnecting mind form body, and the physical, from physis - circumventing physis to settle upon metaphysis, supported by subjective emotions, feelings, needs/desires, hopes, preferences.
Denial of the objective world is a denial of physis, i.e., nature - sum of all past nurturing, settling upon a nurturing form nowhere, out of nothing, other than subjective criteria.

*Nihilism - inversion of body/mind to mind/body.
Top<>Down emoting. You start with a desired objective and then work backward to justify it by sampling reality.
Bottom<>Up begins from nil, ignorance, and then builds a hypothesis of probability.
In Top<>Down emoting one begins with a certainty and concludes in nothing and maintained and collectivized ignorance.
Minds of the Book, by the Book, for the Book. Scripture being referenced, written by icons/idols, or god, or "experts", creating a pool of words to defer to.

*Notice the venue of this presentation.
The source of this disease is now also a medium of disseminating its antidote. The source of undermining is also participating in the prognosis - concealment, Krypsis.
The U.S. cannot recover from this, so the murderer visits the home of the deceased to pay his respects to the family.

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