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His insights into Hitler and the concentration camps sheds light on his nature as an analytical man. A grueling series for him so far in part of his own self-discoveries into humanism. He does a graceful job understanding what morality is as an evolutionary necessity.  

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Keep in mind that Peterson is distinctly Abrahamic in his approach.
He considers Judeo-Christianity an inseparable positive part of western civilization.
This is the only reason he is tolerated and hasn't already been jailed.
His conflict is with the literal application of Judeo-Christian dogma resulting in the absurdities of our current identity crisis.
He disapproves of its continuing unfolding, wanting to return to the "reasonable" position in a Platonic, Holy Roman Empire, past, making him a part of the conservative pole in the Nihilistic paradigm.

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Keep in mind that Peterson is distinctly Abrahamic in his approach.
He considers Judeo-Christianity an inseparable positive part of western civilization.
This is the only reason he is tolerated and hasn't already been jailed.

Indeed. I've come to this conclusion. He is a product of modernity and as a thinker, he is an institutionalized academic.

My interest in him is his nature as a strictly modernized thinker who has become aware of the repressed cultural masculinity through correct biological perspectives, but is attracted to the idealistic history of the Judeo-Christian germ because of its deeply rooted hold into generations of cultural psychology that he is unable to divorce himself from, ironically, being a modern psychologist.

He admires and quotes Dostoevsky alot because Dostoevsky himself approached the phenomenon of modern nihilism which Peterson believes validates his positions, overlooking the profound philosophical motives that Dostoevsky had for describing modernity in such characters as Ivan Karamazov, or Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment, as symptoms of modernity rather than its aplologetics as he believes.

He is like a prisoner who intelligently understands and explains the oppressive purpose of his cell but refuses to leave. It's interesting to me to watch and learn from as a resource of knowledge about modernity.
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Dostoevsky also approached the issue of Nihilism from a Abrahamic perspective, being raised in Orthodoxy, in a country that would later be seduced by its secular version, Marxism.
Another thing that came to my mind, reading your response, was how sexual differences are now legitimized by some circles, such as the MGTOW group.
Like MGTOW, Peterson accepts sexual differences, but shies away from racial ones, just as they did.
He only goes so far, and no further.
He combats secular Nihilism, such as post-modernism, Marxism, but seeks refuge in spiritual Abrahamism.

Symptoms are being perceived, now that the dis-ease has become noticeable to the less obtuse.
But the only symptom they can see is the denial of sexual differences, because ti is crating a noticeable identity crisis, and the absurdity of Transexuality.
Racial difference are too subtle to be perceived, given social rules and regulations, so they draw the line on sexual divisions and do not proceed further than that. .

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Like MGTOW, Peterson accepts sexual differences, but shies away from racial ones, just as they did.
He only goes so far, and no further.
He combats secular Nihilism, such as post-modernism, Marxism, but seeks refuge in spiritual Abrahamism.

Yes. To expound on this, the thing with Peterson, is his definition of strength, lies outside of the advanced forms of extreme individualism, the radical dysfunctions of Marcuse's modernity, but he still has a connection to the quintessential essence of Judaism as a nationalistic ideal of purpose and culture. He misplaces his attraction to Will to Power, by correlating it to its sources of wisdom in an ancient context of Christian ethos, which retains some aspects of traditionalism, and this justifies it for him.

I doubt he would do lectures on Norse creation myth such as the Saga of the Volsungs, Or the Prose Edda and find nearly as much inspiration in their symbolism of strength, the same way he does with the Bible. The evolutionary paradigm of meekness determines his philosophical outlooks. His promotion of masculinity is only strictly academic, even if it is useful to an extent. His fixation on taking a psychological position on these subjects restricts his intellect into his time and place of vacuous rationalism.

The modern idea of strength now lies entirely and completely in vicimhood and weakness; of being made damaged or traumatized or repressed, and from this origin, developing an aberrant psychotic form of strength that is self-destructive and nihilistic. All forms of current cinematic imagery are now infected with this ideal. The unnatural mutation that does away with true struggle imposed by the hierarchy of the natural world that would cultivate inner stability to overcome with order.

The movie "Split", which i recently saw, is a pretty good example of this.
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I’m beginning to understand Peterson’s mind…His Nietzschean philosophical constitution is embedded in the etymological constructs of Judeo-Christianity in a strictly traditional way where his idea of ‘The Good’ means a power complex that is geared toward inclusiveness, into the modern pathos, despite him glorifying the destiny of the individual, which is a kind of ambivalence in him. His exaltation of immoral power is something he is attracted to, but he must rationalize it through the logos of nihilistic belief, because in its ancient contexts, it retains elements that are true, truer anyway, than the extreme illusions of it today; where it was clearer and more cogent, even if it was the same anomaly that resulted in the same infection.

He admires Nietzsche so much because he doesn’t really understand him, but he doesn’t quite misunderstand him either, he simply doesn’t know how to absorb what Nietzsche meant by the free spirit. For him it must involve what he is psychologically familiar with, which is the Judeo-Christian worldview of surrender to a kind of blind Calvinistic industriousness of predestination on a psychologically adaptive level. The ethics of adaptation, rather than power of Willing, is what he is drawn to ultimately, which is his greatest flaw.

He is a modern humanist with a high awareness. Similar to Kierkegaard, but not nearly as nuanced as he was. I like Peterson’s absurdist/existential proclivities, it makes him original at least.

Satyr, I think your observations on the assimilation of the spirit of Nietzsche, into a twisted modernized nihilistic cultish religiosity is starting to make more sense to me.
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Nietzsche's human elitism, is being absorbed into human egalitarianism.
The "herd" is making sense of predation, and their own nature as the preyed upon (victims) as Nietzsche revealed it to them by absorbing the predator's perspective into their grazing psychology.
They've ruminated on it, by deconstructing it to a pulp, regurgitating it numerous times.
Each time they bring it up to their mouth, to re-taste it, it is finer, more digestible.

The Van Clan is the most immediate, to us, example of Nietzsche being assimilated into Judaism, to give rise to a new Christianity, or VO.
Replace 'love' with 'value' and the universe is full of self-valuing, or self-loving.

It's an obvious method of dealing with a threat.
The threat is absorbed, selectively, in pieces, into the threatened one's defensiveness - it's coping mechanism or social conventions that support its well-being and sense of order.

Judaism absorbed Hellenism, in such a way, to produce Christianity.
Jesus was, for the Jews, an apostate. A rebel they could not tolerate as much as a criminal - Barabbas.
Christianity absorbed secularism, or atheism, creating Marxism. The challenge to their infantile dogma, meant for less informed, illiterate, masses, was absorbed and adapted to a secular form of the same dogma - changing the monikers, abandoning outdated concepts, such as God, or concepts that prevented global proselytizing.
Marxism absorbed the threat of its decline, after the Cold War, by morphing into post-Modernism.
The threat was increasing knowledge, and experience with the Marxist ideology itself.

Nihilism must lie, as I said, and reinvent itself when its newest transformation begins to be exposed as naive, or delusional.


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As an academic and a prime product of modernity, Peterson can’t be blamed for his insights into human greatness through the lens of its mythologies of Judaic nihilism. He echos its tenets of sacrificing the family to the social greater good (God) for the sake of succeeding the weak (humanity), for the reason that human beings are evolutionarily driven to cooperate with others in order to reach a higher morality. This ‘morality’ is what they create within themselves first, and this is his only alignment with Nietzsche, and an innocent one at that. But he continually strays from understanding Nietzsche and becomes what Nietzsche spoke of in terms of those who invaluate themselves by values, not to mention the idea of morality itself being the human essence of organic stagnation and slavishness, which is the other teaching of Nietzsche Peterson fails to grasp.

His voice becomes thick with emotion as he reads the story of Abraham and Isaac, pointing to a natural sentimentalism with the origins of the mythos and ethos of his culture. Religious Humanism is at the core of his spirituality and positive evolution theory is at the core of his scientific knowledge, and his philosophical mind is intractably lost. He finds worth in the modern outlook that ultimately, what we can become just can’t really ever be known so we are all in the same boat of hardship.

This series has probably exposed more truth about his own authentic loyalties to his born and bred indoctrinated parts of himself. So, I’d say it was a success for him. I hope he makes some “post-biblical series” analysis video and how it affected him or changed him.
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To Peterson's response to Charlottsville. He says "what Caucasians need to do, is not revert back to being White."

This is a very interesting statement by him that I've been mulling over. What he is suggesting, at first, is to rescue European man from a delineating term such as "White", not for the sake of exalting the race as it would seem to imply, but for the sake of lifting him out of his past sins to become something more than what Peterson believes was his "chaotic darkness" of racial superiority and oppression in American antiquity. People being hurt: this is his Achilles heel. He suffers from that weak-minded liberal soft spot for equality and the distressing brutality of human nature; its sinfulness.

When he says in other lectures to "accept yourself as a monster" he means make peace with yourself as a flawed human and only use the primitive parts of yourself for GOOD, but do not let the monster harm anyone.

Academia and Jewish political correctness has instilled in him a consistent detached mindset regarding race. But this one statement, in its subtly, is paramount in showing his true beliefs about race, specifically his own.
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for the reason that human beings are evolutionarily......


Could it be possible that humans originated in another universe?

By studying the question, "How do humans not know where they came from", there is only one conclusion.  

Nobody has the answer.  

That is perhaps why there are 42,000 religions and many more theories of where we came from.

I have one question.

Why is it that we are the only species that if we go missing from the planet, the planet thrives.
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I have one question.

Why is it that we are the only species that if we go missing from the planet, the planet thrives.
I've given my answer to that question, and it's all over this forum.
It is summed up in my definition of 'artificial' versus 'natural'...
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Artificial: the indefinite point when an organism’s accumulated interventions upon its environment begin to affect it more than the environment it intervened upon. An alternate way of thinking of it is as an environment, or a sum of environmental circumstances that are created and maintained by a wilful agency, either intentionally or unintentionally; circumstances that require constant maintenance to remain viable.
So far only one species that we know of has managed this level of self-affecting intervention upon its original environment and that species is none other than our own, i.e., homo sapient. This means that man, of all the species on earth, can now affect his own fate, determine, to a degree, his own evolution by applying his own ideologies, according to his preferences, his own abstractions – technologies being the externalization of his knowledge and understanding of natural order, including himself within it – or his knowledge & understanding of how he, as species or as individual organism, relates to what is not himself – subject/object.

Only man intervenes upon natural processes to fabricate alternative environments - the degree of the intervention is what makes it artificial.
The direction of the intervention is what makes it 'nihilistic' - in brief on a scale what contradicts or inverts natural order is 'nihilistic'.....with degrees of contradictory interventional ideologies.
Man creates environments that are contrary to natural order, directed by a particular ideal - expressed as ideology/dogma, spirituality which desires to create an ideal environment for humans it consider ideal and necessary.

For example, monogamy is a form of intervention upon human natural impulses, necessitating particular self-controlling attitudes.
This is guided by many objectives one of which is the integration of as many females and males, more importantly, inot a social system, making them investors.
This is a relatively benign intervention.

As we "progress" interventions become increasingly severe - intrusive, anti-nature.
All of these human interventions - corrections - have collateral effects.
When man dams a river to produce hydroelectricity there's a human benefit and a natural cost which affects man directly and indirectly - immediately or over time.
We are in a period when man is guided by nihilistic ideals - by those who profess to be environmentalists - under the dominion of a nihilistic empire...which is declining.
Yet, it has already established its artificiality...and its decline is experienced as an end of a world, meaning an end of its artificial environments, replaced by different manmade environments.

So, man intervenes upon natural order to a degree that the consequences begin to affect him more than the natural environment he intervened upon, and this cultivates a kind of man that can no longer survive in natural environments and so forces said individuals to support, maintain and enlarge this artificial environment...necessitating increasingly severe interventions on natural order.
Eventually the manmade system collapses - implodes - as the amount of energies required to maintain and enlarge it reach unsustainable levels

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Which translates......the demise of humanity is inevitable.

Whether we have descendants that survive or not is immaterial, we will become extinct on this world eventually.

The question is........WHEN?
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Which translates......the demise of humanity is inevitable.

Whether we have descendants that survive or not is immaterial, we will become extinct on this world eventually.

The question is........WHEN?
So pessimistic.
No, it is not certain that we will go extinct.
Nietzsche spoke of the overman....we must overcome our human phase into something else.
This something else will be guided by our ideals - every ideology proposing its own "overman".
Nihilists propose the negation of man, or an ideal that can only exist in an ideal cosmos...which makes them insane and dangerous - see Nihilism.

Realists propose their own ideal as the best to guide human evolution - which is now influenced by us. we are involved in eugenics even while we condemn eugenics as being inhuman and the act of Nazis.
Jews, ironically, have been practicing eugenics for centuries.

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the problem is that Messianism wants to impose tis ideal upon mankind....whereas the Putin's of the world want each ethnicity, each culture, to eugenically/culturally pursue its own ideal of the overman....
Americanism is messianic....and it would rather destroy mankind that liberate it.

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The current American model is a war against European males....a form of social selection - cultural eugenics.
They want to breed out Caucasian males...via female filtering, so they present the negro as the ideal male....and brown as the ideal human.
Just watch TV and movies and music coming out of the US...
Do you notice a pattern?

Such a mix is ideal because it is aggressive and malleable, easily brainwashed.
Europeans and Asians are too aware.....resistant to current indoctrination techniques. Only the lower strata can be affected by their methods, the higher strata resist.

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So pessimistic.
No, it is not certain that we will go extinct.
Nietzsche spoke of the overman....we must overcome our human phase into something else........

No, not pessimistic, realistic.
We face serious challenges ahead, climate change, overtaxed food and production and over population, all of these are dilemmas we are struggling with.
I don't think we will survive another 1,000 years without escaping beyond our fragile planet.
We could of course set up house in space, but then only the privileged, (cashed up) would have a ticket to ride.
For you to cling to Nietzsche's "overman" as a solution is purely juvenile hyperbole.
The path to self knowledge is a difficult one. No?
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The end of America is not the end of mankind.
I know it may feel like it is the end of the world, to you, but it isn't.
It's a shift.
All changes are traumatic.
A period of chaos is normal.
The old lion fights to maintain its control over the pride, but it must concede or die, and then, yes, the new male practices infanticide...eliminating the old alpha's brood.
Females quickly recover...as it is their nature to do so...and they come into heat, again, beginning a new cycle.


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