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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyTue May 09, 2017 9:39 pm

Language is a technique/technology, and like all technologies it is the externalization of esoteric processes.
Technologies are a web projected organic functions, converted from genetic to symbolic code, from neural pulses to electric energies.

They extend the physical bodies range of willful effect, creating an expanded self, a larger self, that can now integrate into its space/time other organisms, or inanimate matter.
These are assimilated, mentally, by converting them to the habituated, by domesticating them, or integrating them into roles, functions, duties.
What cannot be trained, or domesticated, will be converted by naming it - giving it a symbol.
The mind can project into other it's own self - with its own motives, desires.
It sees itself everywhere.
It feels itself in all things - patterns participating in its own unity, attuned to their vibrations in congruities not participating in its unity.
The slightest similarity evidence of a universal uniformity.
Unities dissected until the lowest-common-denomination unifies.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyWed May 10, 2017 7:07 am

Man reduces nature to a symbol he can manipulate, and share, thinking he controls the forces that bind him.
Man can transfer his gestures and symbols to minds alien to his own - he can train beast to understand his will, through his gestures, vocalizations, and because only those with the mind to process symbols can carry his will, he begins to believe himself a conduit of divinity, that he is a special animal, chosen to read the divine mind.

From humble student, using symbols/words to understand mother nature, he becomes an arrogant youth creating his own laws, imposing his own will upon her, using symbols and words.
The Ten Commandments were not nature's, they were man-made, socioeconomic, additions, contradicting natural laws. With them he wanted to create a safe clearing, a sheltering space/time, a temporal womb - a human/humane 'reality', inside of which he could remain forever a child.  

His symbols could now cease to be humble representations of understanding the mysterious.
He no longer had to submit to nature's ways.
He had read her mind, and through the gods, he could know her ways.
Man would manipulate and exploit nature.
His words were no longer unidirectional - from world to mind, where he understood and submitted, but could not flow the other way, man demanding of nature, contradicting nature, imposing his will upon nature.
But symbols/words have no such power, unless you are a madman, or a hypocrite.
All symbols/words can do is communicate Will to minds that can comprehend the communications, turning them into agencies of willful manipulation.
Man would use symbols/words to communicate his will to other humans, and to those beasts with the mental qualities to glean his intent through gestures, vocalizations, and symbols.
They would become a projection of his Will, and the outer limit of his "power".  

To make his symbols more potent, more seductive, he had to believe that all existence was conscious, and so could be manipulated and controlled using his communication technology.
He had to be convinced that his Will could be communicated to all the cosmos.
From humble reader of signs, he became arrogant impostor.
He no longer listened to nature, he told her what she is, or ought to be.
His language changed from representational to confusion, each shaman, at first, constructing his own sentence structures to pass on his will, masked as divine reading.
Some fake shamans realized that they did not actually have to hold power over nature, but only that others believed that this was the case.

Why read nature when you can exploit human feebleness and use humans as proxies to cope with her indifferent, 'cruelty'?
"First came the word, and the word was God", only when 'world' means 'humanity', or any beast that can be humanized with symbols.
gods were the representation of natural forces.....the 'one Abrahamic god' was a representation of man - inverted to 'in god's image'.  
We live in the world of man - in an inverted reality - Nihilism.
In such a reality words are not to be expected to make sense, but only to trigger imagery, emotions, to cover fear with relieving confusion.
In this world the tensions of opposites, is fertile ground for any self-contradictory nonsense.
Synthesis of opposites, the balance of repulsion/attraction that makes life possible,  is but an excuse used to to combine anything into an implied unity.

In such times language does not have to say anything, but only pretend that it does.
It does not have to make sense, it only has to imply it.
It does not have to refer to anything outside the mind, but only communicate a feeling, a sensation, a hope, from mind to mind.
It does not have to represent anything in the world, of the world, but only of the human, in the human.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyWed May 10, 2017 6:20 pm

One prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon, who after invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, sent a message to Sparta:

Quote :
You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city.

The Spartan ephors replied with a single word:

Quote :
If.

Thing about words is, that they trick the mind into believing anything.
Lie hypnotic spells, it is not the spell caster who hypnotizes, but the mind, itself, that is convinced to the point of hypnotizing itself.
Placebo effect, using intangible symbols. It is not the sugar-pill that heals, but it is what acts as a conduit, a metaphor, to inspire the body, via the mind, to heal itself.

All words can do is manipulate emotions, trigger infantile, primal, fears, and the means evolved to cope with an unknown, unpredictable reality.
Released from their role as connectors of mind to world, they re-turn, back to mind, to evade world, and to produce a chemical reaction, a psychosomatic cocoon, against it.
Nihilism, using worlds as the only means of its power, and its survival, is a mental game, using symbols.

The motive is exposed in the selection of symbols and words, and how these are applied.
Where there is no desire to clarify, swords are selected to confuse, to be vague, allowing the mind to produce any meaning it so desires.
When the symbols are not meant to represent the real world, then they are given the task of fulfilling a psychological desire....an innate need.
They ought not to be too precise and clear, because this would limit how each potential convert could exploit their vagueness for the fulfillment of his/her deepest desires.
Which words are selected are those with a memetically contrived emotional trigger.
Something that can inspire positive emotions, and hope, or produce uninspiring, negativity - psychological attraction/repulsion.
One pushing the other pulling in the desired direction.
A mental hook, line...and sinker.

We must keep in mind, always, that with all Nihilists, whether they know it or not, whether they acknowledge their essence or not, and whatever their variant may be, is not to engage world, face it, but to escape it, to turn away...and the symbols, worlds they use reflect this need.
Their words and sentence structures will not reflect natural order, but will replace it with anything besides it.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyFri May 12, 2017 3:01 am

The term "geopolitics" presumes humanism/egalitarianism and anti-nationalism. A world governance/order.

politics (n.) Look up politics at Dictionary.com
1520s, "science of government," from politic (adj.), modeled on Aristotle's ta politika "affairs of state," the name of his book on governing and governments, which was in English mid-15c. as "Polettiques."
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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyFri May 12, 2017 9:37 am

Nature may refer to living organisms, or it may refer to a broader concept of cosmos, withing which life emerges.
Purposefully, and methodically confusing the two is how hypocrites attempt to insert the absurd into the sensible.

World does not mean humanity.
There was a world before, and there will be a world after humanity.
Humanity, is a species, a reproductive type which emerges within world, and is a part of it.
Humanity reacts to world, and adapts to it, or perishes, as so many species have already done.
Humanity interprets world, and live in accordance with this interpretation, facing the costs and the benefits....the consequences.

Grounding words to world is connecting them to phenomena, to actions, to processes and functions.
This is what I mean by 'referring'.
Using the proper word for the particular action clarifies it and distinguishes it from all other activities.
Using an improper word confuses, willfully obfuscates and inserts into the observed phenomenon, the activity, an unjustified abstraction, an ideal that cannot be validated but only casually inserted as if it belonged there, and then used until it is forgotten how the ideal became part of the activity.
Some words are complex, meaning that they represent two, or more, activities - a synthesis of observable phenomena reduced to a singular noetic representation.
These are the easiest to exploit by Nihilists. They insert into the synthesis, a pure noetic construct, attempting to forever links it with those that refer to observable activities.

Detaching words from world controverts them to pure noumena, to abstractions with no external reference. Such methods convert the concept into an easily manipulated idea(l), relying on emotions and ignorance to be established, and shared as 'truth'.

Contradictions are harmonized using vagueness.
Ambiguity clouds the conceptual boundaries allowing the mind to combine incompatible abstractions into a theoretical whole.
Unable to explain how patterns can attain a balance of attraction/repulsion, they smooth their ignorance over with mystical insinuations, and words like 'tension', describing their own internal conflict, or 'pathos', describing their own internal desire.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptyFri May 12, 2017 12:41 pm

Will = focus of organic aggregate energies upon an objective.
Path-of-Least-Resistance as the fluctuating relationships produced by interactions is focused when iteration becomes intentional - attains motive as the focus of attraction, multiplying the repulsive energies with the effect of synergy.
Complexity of tactics, competition, evolves a sophistication of awareness. The immediate path-of-least-resistance is refined to a projection of higher returns (anticipation via an abstraction - theory), and a rejection of what is easiest - path-of-more-resistance makes the objective the guiding principle; source of inspiration, focusing the Will, despite the immediacy of the costs - idea(l).

Memory (DNA, knowledge, experience: nature/nurture) directs the projection of the anticipated idea(l).
On later stages the idea(l) ceases to be attainable, and may become un-real - projection of objective "outside" space/time, in a vague beyond, or a forever immanent and never realized "future" - Paradise/Utopia, Abrahamic Divinity/Marxist Utopia.
Anticipated rewards are projected in an after-life, or via the idealization of humanity, as a coming Age.
Memories are recombined into unreal combinations (Nihilism) when the immediate is take for granted - high risk, path of hyper-resistance, as a cost worth paying when they are indefinitely postponed, or mitigated by a protective, sheltering otherness - State/Institution, as manifest humanity, replacing God.
Precedent, which memories help build, cease to matter, and projections reflect this confused amalgamation in language - symbols.
The symbol is the idea(l) when the idea(l) is beyond, outside, the real, and because it is not restricted by precedent, or experience, it can be anything, to anyone.
The only restriction is emotion, pleasure, hope: the seductive promise of the symbol: representation of the idea(l).



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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptySat May 13, 2017 11:58 am

Words are to language what “base pairs” are to DNA.
Their arrangement, sequences, are what words are in sentences.
Words sequences and arrangements produce meaning, just as DNA sequences and arrangements produce an organization, an organism.

Like DNA some pairing, and sequences may lie dormant, until an addition can trigger them into appearance – latent expression.
How this apparent relates to the world, within a given environment, is what determines its success/failure, its fitness/unfitness.
How a sentence structure relates to the world beyond the brain, determines the accuracy of the meaning being expressed.
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The accurate definition of a word is its connection to an action, a process, outside the mind, and the combination of words, into sentences, is what determines the accuracy or inaccuracy of the meanings being formed. They determine the success or failure of the concepts being expressed, if and when these are converted from noumena, theory, to action, praxis.
The factor of sheltering ought to be taken into consideration when evaluating the success and/or failure of an applied sentence structure – a concept.
This mirrors the fitness/unfitness of a mutation permitted to exist either in real world, or in a protective fabricated and regulated one.

The arrangement of base pairs in DNA represent the storage of experiences, informing the behaviour of the organism, which then determines subsequent additions or arrangements.

The meaning of arranged words are evaluated by how they can be transmitted, shared, and by how well they refer to the world outside the mind.
DNA is evaluated in fitness, by how it can replicate itself, and by how it can manage to relate to the world.
Fitness is a measure of adaptation to world.
Accuracy, in linguistic contexts, is a measure of error, if and when the theory, the noumenon is converted to action; theory applied pragmatically.
Sheltering, or the intervention of an external Will as a mitigating factor, corrupts the evaluation, just as it would corrupt the evaluation of fitness when and if a mutation is protected or if it is artificially replicated.
Culture is a sheltering mechanism of intertwined relationships, corrupting success/failure with the intervention of an ideology, with a specific motive.
Such interventions permit the propagation of unfit mutations, or meaningless sentence arrangements, which are only meaningful within a fabricated environment full of untested presumptions, or untested mutations.

The ideal becomes a tool of orientation, by cultivating particular errors, or sentence structures.
If we were to apply this to natural context then we can perceive the nurturing of higher yielding milk cows, with extraordinary udders, as a mutations allowed to survive in controlled environments. Such mutations would be detrimental to survival in the world beyond the controlled and regulated environment of a farm, where this mutation is preferable because the motive is other than what it would be in the wild.
In this context the farmer acts as the mitigating will, protecting his own investment, and interventions, in the cow, which has become completely dependent upon him to survive. He deals with the health issues, produced by his interventions, and deals with the organism’s incapacity to move, or to feed itself properly.
Returning to semiology, a meaningless sentence structure acquires meaning within artificially constructed and maintained environments, where the motive is other than it would be in nature, or outside the premises of the intervening will's motive.
A meaningless sentence, or arrangements of words, is protected from its own meaninglessness, with the intervention of a mitigating Will that provides a service for its own reasons, permitting this meaningless sentence structure to propagate if it facilitates and maintains codependency.
The sentence structure may be meaningless outside the artificial environment, but it acquires meaning by offering a solution to the individuals suffering from the collateral effects of sheltering.
Energies that would be normally directed towards movement, or foraging, or propagating – survival in general – are released, and directed towards the production of mild, or any desirable motive. Excess is then redirected towards the alleviation of the collateral effects of sheltering.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptySat May 13, 2017 12:48 pm

When words are released from their role as connectors to reality, and their function of orienting and directing the organism within an unknown, threatening world, and for dealing with need/suffering, they become conduits for releasing accumulating excess energies, either in hedonistic pursuits, or through energy consuming play.
Thinking, as the energy consuming activity of brain, is directed towards self-pleasuring, distraction, and games.
Fantasy is imagination released from reality to explore, to enjoy and to play.
Leisure is the by-product of accurate the application of ideas. It is lack, succeeding in the accumulation of excess – net product of interactivity.
Leisure allows the mind to detach from reality and to escape in meaninglessness, in unproductive paly. It is addictive.
Prolonged leisure atrophies the brain, and makes it and the nervous system used to lower levels of stress – the mind reverts to the level of child, where it could play and explore with no severity of consequence.
Words reflect this retardation, degeneration, with their absence of severity, and their inability to remain disciplined to an order outside self, and indifferent to the organism’s self-interests.
Words fashioned from tools to toys, just as the Marxists proposed the conversion of swords into plowshares.
The conversion disregards the pleasures of the many, as Marxism advocated, and re-focuses on self-pleasuring in fun and games – a reversion to infantile self-explorations.
Eventually ‘friends’ must be included in the fun and games, to accentuate them.
The game becomes the shared uni-verse, with its own set of symbols, differentiating it from the fun and games of other playmates.
The world is pushed to the periphery, the outer fenced-in boundary of the ‘barn’, within which the domesticated manimals play.
Words now delineate the fun and game of the particular play-group, judged by how much pleasure the game offers, and how many playmates it includes, or accepts into its play.
Each play-group has its own specialized lingo, and theoretical reference points – their identifying markers, distinguishing them from all others.
As the world recedes the only juxtaposition of words remains their usage within other groups. The criteria of evaluating their success/failure changes from world to other human fantastic applications.
Creativity becomes a matter of clever rearrangements, offering the most pleasure feedback, and the most fun, measured by how many other manimals want to be included in the game.

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptySat May 13, 2017 12:54 pm

Words released from their primal functions become fictions separating the uniting, singular, ideal from an indifferent fluctuating multiplicity of the real. A noetic boundary, creating a clearing, a space/time area of abstraction.
Nihilism proposes a partial, or complete detachment, as part of its seductive appeal.
Within its contexts words can be arranged and sequences in any imaginable way, because fitness is no longer determined by something external, but it is ensured, allowing for any mutation to take form and seek its fulfillment.

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Attraction/Repulsion are not words describing two separate, and district forces.
They are words describing the outcome of a relationship between patterns.
They describe a degree of friction, caused by a conflict of differing oscillation/vibration, and rhythms – harmony/disharmony: attrition.
The more in harmony two patterns are the more they synchronize – reduction of attrition.
Disharmony describes two patterns vibrating in different rhythms and tones, increasing friction.
Friction is what repulsion describes.
It is what is interpreted as expanding space/time, when the friction produces a loss of energies: non-patterned energies – increasing chaos – patterned energies increased probabilities.
Attraction/Repulsion is a net sum, not an either/or.
Harmony describes a degree of agreement.
More harmony described less friction – path-of-least-resistance.

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Attraction/Repulsion is simultaneous and ongoing when two different patterns (inter)act, or when a pattern (inter)acts with a non-patterned energy.
If harmony exceeds disharmony we have a net sum of attraction – movement towards.
If disharmony exceeds harmony we have a net sum of friction, resulting in repulsion – movement away.
Away and towards describe increased possibility/decreased possibility.

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Attrition is the loss of energies (fragmentation) produced by two, or more (inter)acting patterns.
The loss may produce a reduction of the pattern’s vibration, increasing probability, or it may produce a loss of pattern altogether, increasing possibility, which is another way of describing expanding space/time.

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If something as basic as the concept of human can be mystified and converted into a a pure abstraction, a noetic construct, just as the concept of 'love' has, or 'morality' and a series of positively 'triggering' words, and if the concept nihilism can be hijacked and assimilated into the Nihilistic paradigm, just as the concepts of one and nil, then how much more easily cannot the word 'mystical' not become a substitute for blind fate, unsubstantiated hope, to be given to old ladies, and feeble emasculated souls, to repeat with a menacing voice, to add to its magical effect.

I borrow one of ecmandu's favourite arguments, in support of his insane ramblings...
"It doesn't work that way, It just doesn't".

And, like that other genius cAnus says...
"All scholastic didactic contraptions....up there, on Skyhooks. Bring it down to earth, in the here and now."

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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptySat May 20, 2017 7:41 am

Realist = the world is mystifying, awe inspiring, and words attempt to clarify, converting awe to understanding.

Idealist = the world is clear and comprehensible, and words are supposed to mystify and produce awe by creating confusion.

World's mystery is clarified with symbols/words imitating it.
Symbols are supposed to reflect the world's mysteriousness by converting it into a mystifying symbol pretending to understand.
Take the word 'God'.
Universal ignorance concerning existence is converted to the mystifying concept of a mono-God.
By giving it a name, the believer feels he's made it intimate, he's gone closer towards it, delved into its mystery.
By scratching a symbol of a natural force the scribbler begins to believe he's has a hold on nature.
He can manipulate the force, because he can manipulate the symbol.
The scribbler feels empowered by the symbol/word.
Unlike the force itself, he can carry it in his pocket, carve it into his skin, wear it like a talisman.
Nature's processes are his to control.

Inverted utility.
Words does not connect mind to world, but connects world to mind.
Symbol is not a reduction of the phenomenon into a noetic construct, a representation of a phenomenon, but is the expansion of the noumenon into the phenomenon.
The phenomenon is not represented, but emulated, imitated by the noetic construct.

The symbol of a tornado, is a mini tornado.
The symbolic pattern has the power of the patterns it represents.
The symbol can reproduce the effects of a tornado in the mind.

Mind being a product of brain, and brain being part of body, makes of the individual human a world, representing the world.
Human body becomes a representation of the entire cosmos - it becomes a symbol for the world.
Humanity is now a representation of world.

Body is matter/energy, and mind is spirit that can exploit and manipulate physical energies simply by willing it.
Synthesis of mind/body is converted to synthesis of human/world.
Human mind can now manipulate existence using its will, through symbols it creates, using its will.
As the brain can move the body, affect the body it is a part of by thinking, so does it believe it can extend its range of effect to encompass the uni-verse beyond the body.
Realization is intoxicating.
The individual human mind, drunk on its own power, becomes convinced that its noetic constructs can affect the world without the body intervening.
In fact the body imposes limitations on the mind, not present when it turns inward and thinks.
In thought time/space are malleable, controllable, it can advance into the future or fall back into the distant past, simply by thinking it.
The power of the mind, within its own constructs, fails when applied via the body.
The body is sinful, weak, to be ignored or idolized. Worshiped symbolically. It is an avatar.

By circumventing the limitations the body imposes upon the mind, the mind can expand its noetic range of effect.
It's symbols can manipulate other minds sharing the same symbols, extending its control over other bodies.
Like brain can control body, with thoughts, it can control other bodies through the brains of others, using thoughts, transmitted using symbols/words.
Disconnecting contact directly with the world, through the senses, makes the control more efficient, more reliable.
Turning inward disconnects the mind from reality, making ti more vulnerable to mental manipulation. Losing trust in on's own senses, detaching words from world, also has the effect of priming the mind for mental manipulation, through symbols.

By turning inward the mind comes in contact with its deepest needs, insecurities.
lacking abstractions to draw from, directly from world, to make them comprehensible, it adopts symbols given to it, by another mind.
Brains become connecting conduits of inter-subjectivity. Mini-processing organs, participating in a shared reality.
Like the internet is a connection of multiple computers using data packets, this brain-conglomeration is a alternate web of data sharing - using symbols.
Running the same software, is sharing the same culture.
Symbols are data packets converted in specific ways by the software, creating a super-computer, super-organism.
Any contact with the outside world would shatter the connection.
The computer does not allow energies to infiltrate its processing. If it did its circuitry would be destroyed.
Within the computer realm, reality can be controlled, manipulated. Time and space lose their meaning.
Everything becomes representational, limited only by the mind's imagination.
The external world is there for inspiration, for sampling. It's limitations, its order, does not intrude.

The entire process requires an enclosed, controlled environment.
Walls, doors, widows, climate control, electricity etc.
A part of space/time separated from world, creating a 'safe space' where the computer, software, hardware, individual input, can be stored.
When trust in the infrastructure grows, the input individual's mind can relax and focus on integrating itself into the artificial, computer reality, where only symbols, exchanging information, have power.
In this artificial realm the word is magical.
As much as it is impotent in reality, here it can infiltrate, impregnate, exploit, manipulate, over great distances.

The individual recipient's brain becomes the point of conversion of data packets into neural impulses. Each individual's body extensions of the connections - converting symbols/words back into potential actions.
Brain converts neural energies into information packets, transmits them, and then converts them back into neural energies.
Bio-mechanical web.
Only brains that can process symbols/words are part of this artificial reality.
Expanding the range of effect of symbol/word power entails the training of brains to decipher them into imagery, sensations, concepts.
Beyond this range of effect symbols/words are impotent, since they are representations of reality.

In Science this presentation of reality is converted to understanding of reality, by finding patterns in the pattern, building mechanical agents that intervene upon the pattern by producing artificial patterns imitating the original.
The conversion of sensual input, by observing phenomena, into neural code, into noumena, and then back into artificial imitations of the phenomena themselves, are only successful if the imitation is accurate...or to the degree of its accuracy.
The phenomenon imposes a limit on how the noumenon can interpret it.
Pattern is the limit enforcing how the symbols/words can be arranged.

This is not the case when manipulating minds.
Success is determined by how a particular image, emotion, can be transmitted and replicated in the mind of another, using words/symbols.
Since self-awareness varies from individual to individual, the successful transmission remains ambiguous, only comprehensible enough to trigger and recruit the creativity of the host mind.
It has to be suggestive, and ambiguous enough to be communicable, and adjustable to any particular individual psychology, and experiential data base.
Shared culture makes this easier.
When attempting such a transmission between alien cultures the usage of the lowest-common-denominator, which is species oriented, is the most effective.

Converting genetics, to memetics, and then back again.
The lowest-common-denominator, is usually reproductive....when dealing with minds on this level of sophistication, we can assume a certain level of excess.
Otherwise need would not permit the wasting of time/energy on computer or other brain communications.
Brain is an energy hungry organ. Only if its primary role has compensated for the energies it burns does it turn to extracurricular activities, of wastefulness, or growth, or sexual reproduction.
Sex is the most popular form of expunging excess energies among those who are sheltered - well-fed, well hydrated and oxygenated, and well housed.
We can assume that what is lacking are not the tangible physical necessities, but the intangible mental ones.
In this context the word/symbol is most effective.

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Home is an extension of the human skin, creating a projected outer boundary, and a space/time enclosure.
The hearth became, for the pagans, a representation of the heart projected within the space/time of the home.
The physical bodies field of effect, its life force, of attraction/repulsion was converted to symbols radiating outward, pulling inward, from the home.

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Of Fulfilling & Draining Art and Artists
Need expressing lack, is repulsive.
Need expressing abundance, is attractive.
We are life; life is need/suffering.
We find abundance,of order, attractive, because we covet what we need.
What is lacking is repulsive, because it reminds us of our own lack, threatening to drain us of what we possess.

As such an artist who creates art because he must, because he is brimming with excess, requiring to be expunged, is attractive.
We are seduced by such an artist.
His energy fills us with rejuvenation.
An artist that creates out of lack, because he needs, attention, adulation, admiration, fame & fortune, exposes this lack through his art.
Such an art, and artist, we intuitively feel as being repulsive.
His sucking energy drains us.  

Positive/Negative have no place here.
What is positive can be just as draining as what is negative, and what is negative can be just as filling as what is positive, just as there is love that stifles growth and retards development, and hate that sparks creativity and growth.  

What can be said of art can be said of any human creation using any medium, such as language.
Philosophies, and the philosophers that present them as an expression of the mind/body, relating to world, can be divided into those that are overflowing, and those that are draining.

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Surrealistic Philosophy

We are experiencing the linguistic equivalent of artistic deterioration from realism into surrealism.
A decline of art from representing reality, to representing internal feelings, abstractions, the audience are pressured to pretend they comprehend, or to empathize with, by adopting the artist's emotional perspective, and his ambitious motive.
Such are is highly overrated as part of its coercive psychological impressionability.
Little hints of something recognizable are dispersed among the nonsense, to imply, and allow the viewer discover his own psychosis in the artistic insinuations.
If the art piece is exposed as meaningless they will serve as examples of a deeper meaning the crass have failed to appreciate.
It's an elaborate play on human vulnerability.
A good promoter will be more useful than talent.
If the 'artist’ or f-artist, has no funds or no access to a gifted promoter and marketing genius, then he will have to do the work himself, beginning with heavy self-flattery, and declaring himself and his art a piece of artistic genius, connecting it to some famous artist, of the past, whom he has intentionally imitated, and included in his nonsense, as part of the 'reality' aspects of the surrealism he is presenting.
Artistic degradation reflects cultural decline.
How would philosophy have escaped such a decline?


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Philosophy uses words to demystify, to clean away obscurity and confusion and create clarity.
But clarity exposes the mind to more possibilities, increasing the mind's to uncertainty, and confusion.

Spirituality converts this into an implied clarity.
In its obscurity and confusion contradictions are smoothed over, and ignorance is covered in mists of metaphors, and pretentious conviction.
Mystification resides in the expanding periphery of demystifying clarity.
It is the outer region of a mind's perceptual-event-horizon, the twilight where light meets darkness, and knowledge fades towards ignorance.
Nihilistic spirituality places its constructs within this region of fading clarity.

In this area is where those who prey upon human weakness, desire, fear, patrol for lost souls, and confused minds.
On the periphery of a hearth's blazing pathos, lie monstrosities, preying on blindness, waiting for confusion to stumble across the point of no return.

The light attracts and gathers those who can see, and who seek clarity.
The rest roam in darkness, bumping into reality, imagining what it could be, what it should be - imagination explodes into a fantastic display of anxiety.
Some with no eyes to sense light, others burned by its brightness they turn to darkness for relief, welcoming their own shadow as a long lost friend, carrying deeper 'truths'.

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Verb-All En-Compassing

To contain in the orientation, circular reasoning encircling time/space to delineate a clearing.
Circular motions dividing that which is within from what is left without.

The verb is the linguistic form of fluidity.
Expressing appreciation for life would take the linguistic form of using a noun and adjective, as verb.
In English the addition of -ing.

A hedonist would express his self-love as "I find it pleasure in pleasant pleasuring".
Hedonists make pleasure the beginning and the end of their consciousness/self-consciousness dynamic - their internal dialogue.
They separate self with a linguistic encirclement, as a dog encircles a spot before it settles down to sleep.
With Christians the en-compassing word is 'love'.
It purports to be defining something when it says nothing, outside of describing their, internal, deepest desire, and source of anxiety, presented as a universal 'truth'.
It's universality places them within its comfort space/time, where they could settle down and feel safe enough to drift into eternal sleep.
'I love, loving God" where God is another word for 'love'.

It could also be: "I will, willing will" pretending to be saying something profound, in the same way surrealistic art encourages the suspension of doubt to find in it meaning.
Insinuating that life's only purpose is living.
"I live, living, life".  
A solution is presented as circular reasoning - linguistic Gordian Knot.
"I am (to be) becoming being."

The verb pretends to be moving the sentence towards a destination when it is en-circling a spot to settle upon, and slumber.
The Gordian knot appears to be tied, that its ends are free, open to possibilities, but it is a circular conundrum going nowhere.
Sentences using words detached from reality are self-referential, solipsistic nonsensical verbal conundrums, meant to confuse and impress the observer with a a sense of awe.
With no references outside the brain the mind is en-compassed, encircles in a esoteric mind-trap.

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Θεός - God

θεω - to run.

θεωρώ - observe, study.
θεωρός - member of official spiritual representation of a city to receive the oracles χρησμό - necessity, later having to do with god's reply to a query.
θεωρία - Theory - connected to the yearly ritual of seeking the God Apollo in Delos, encircled by the islands Cyclades {Κυκλάδες} - encirclers.
The island must have been formed by the gradual rise of ocean waters , after the Ice Age.
To observe as a god, to seek the illumination of Apollo.  
Δήλος - birthplace of Artemis and Apollo.
δήλος - he who appears.

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Online Dictionary wrote:
ap·point·ment
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noun

1.
an arrangement to meet someone at a particular time and place.
"she made an appointment with my receptionist"
synonyms: meeting, engagement, interview, arrangement, consultation, session; More
2.
an act of appointing; assigning a job or position to someone.
"his appointment as president"
synonyms: nomination, naming, designation, installation, commissioning, engagement, co-option;

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dis·ap·point·ment
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the feeling of sadness or displeasure caused by the nonfulfillment of one's hopes or expectations.
"to her disappointment, there was no chance to talk privately with Luke"
synonyms: sadness, regret, dismay, sorrow; More
a person, event, or thing that causes disappointment.
plural noun: disappointments
"the job proved a disappointment"
synonyms: letdown, nonevent, anticlimax, washout; informalbummer
"the trip was a bit of a disappointment"

An appointment in space/time contradicted, negated.

Error: disparity between noumenon and phenomenon, appreciated after-the-fact as the juxtaposition of a projected idea(l), objective, and the consequences.

Disappointment: symptom, indication, that a judgment, a subjective position, forming an expectation, is flawed.
Degree of disappointment relative to the degree of disparity between idea(l) and real.
Disparity due to over-under-estimating the patterns, the processes interacting.

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There is no hope in the effort of convincing a degenerate using logic and reason, connecting ideas to reality, expressed with words and symbols.
Based on how they abuse and manipulate words, with no inhibitions, no shame, no restrictions imposed upon them by the experienced world, they have lost all respect for language, seeing it as a toy, a rhetorical tool for exploiting human degeneracy, like their own.
They want to gather and contribute to degeneracy, so that their own can ascend on its hierarchy pyramid, converting his own from a liability to an asset, from a vice to a virtue.    
Discussing anything with them is futile.
They evade the severity of their own methods, comfortable in a sheltered system, which they then dream of eradicating, or dream of replacing with something even more protective, fantastically self-gratifying and forgiving, or with something closer to their narcissistic, cultivating entitlement, ideal.
They want to pull you into their degeneracy, where they masturbate, offering you a place in their imaginary pleasure palace, where they are sovereigns; an alternate more forgiving, more correctable reality, asking only that you contribute in its symbolic internal logical structures, that you work for its well-being

Degenerates do not respect, nor do they care about symbols/words, because their own lack substance.
They are impressed by effects, by positive feedback, measured by popularity, or fame and fortune standards, because they cannot appreciate concepts abstractly, connecting, them, via words/symbols, to reality.
Unable, and unwilling, to connect to reality, they are gratified when they can produce an effect within it.
They've failed so many times that they accuse the world for failing them, or language for being too poor to express their internal wealth and prosperity.
They never accept responsibility for their multiple errors in judgment.
If not the other, the world itself, then their previous usage of symbols are to be blamed.
Mind using symbols/words to relate to world, is safe, remains innocent, when the world fails to live-up to expectations, when others disappoint, or the words, as they were taut to it, fail to connect to a desired reality they remain certain is out-there, because they feel it in-there.
It was not their fault that they could not appreciate the world accurately.
It was not their fault that they failed to find patterns, to focus and guide their will towards a outcome they valued.

It was the world's fault, for not adjusting to their ideas.
Others were disloyal to their private needs and desires.
Words proved inadequate to express their fantastic world, or people failed to fully appreciate what they offer.
After every failure they do not change their judgment, they change the wording, the symbols used.

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The most precise, accurate, connection of mind to world, noumenon to phenomenon, idea(l) to real, is with the precise and proper application of words.
Only then can one proceed to connect physis, the physical experienced world, with what is forever beyond experience, and the human will, and deals with what precedes appearance - metaphysics.
A new set of words has to be invented that merge the proper application of words with what lies in the past, like foundations are forever buried by the a building.
Any new words, or synthetic concepts, ought not to corrupt or contradict the harmony between the physical and the metaphysical, nor between the mind and body.
Body, the physical, is metaphysics made present, manifested as physics.

Connecting words to reality ought to have no other motive other than the clarification of world.
Politics, ego, emotion, ought to direct the usage of words as connectors between noumenon and phenomenon, as possible.


Anything else is an easy manipulation of words, symbols, to accommodate the desired.

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Moderns want to live in the fantasy that their methods are universal.
So the fact that they can manipulate words, by only remaining disciplined to their dictionary definitions, convinces them, as a defensive tactic, that everyone does the same.

The objective mind, if it is honest, and courageous, does not only discipline itself to the dictionary definition, but to the world itself.
The word can be used in any manner, nor placed in any place in the sentence sequence, as it is routinely and conveniently done by Moderns.
For honest minds the world directs and limits the usage of a word, in conjunction with the linguistic necessities imposed by the particular language's dictionary definition.
It is the action, the behavior, that limits how and in what place in a sentence a word can be placed.

This is not a matter of culture.
A culture is represented by the language aspect.
The experienced, phenomenal world, is the other aspect, which has nothing to do with culture, or language.
Whether you call the organism named in English a dog, a chien, or σκυλι... or you choose to call it cat, or rock, does not alter what a dog is.
Culture determines the symbol used, the Dictionary part - noumenon.
World, reality, the interactivity of patterns, behaviors, relationships, is not dependent on cultural traditions...the opposite in fact.
It is a culture that emerges out of world, and refers to world using symbols, words, numbers, metaphors.
World does not care what you call its processes, because ti is the interpreter who suffers the costs and enjoys the benefits.
World does not care if you ignore, dismiss, forget it exists....it is the individual who shall face the consequences.
Meme emerges from genetics, interacting, relating with world.
They are not arbitrary, and they do not produce themselves.
They do not emerge out of nowhere, even if they can lead to nowhere in the mind of those who desperately want to escape world.

Space/Time imposes linguistic sequences: how a particular word/symbol, referring to a particular idea, born of a particular meme, relates to world.
Causal chains can only be inverted noetically, but this mental masturbation, fantasy, has no effect on the causal chain.
Each word/symbol refers to a noumenon, which refers to a particular interaction of phenomena.
These can be easily manipulated noetically, to produce any desired effect, but this has no effect on the world beyond the mind.
The causal sequence is what we call linear time, establishing our past, present, and future conceptions. These can be rearranged mentally, noetically, without actually changing the sequence in the world itself.

The world as Flux, as (inter)acting patterned and non-patterned energies, is what imposes the utility of symbols/words, and the language, as part of a meme, imposes its communication rules, based on world.


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PostSubject: Re: Words Words - Page 5 EmptySat Jun 10, 2017 11:10 am

Words are like prejudice, in that they make generalizations about imperfect patterns.
To utilize language properly, one has to countenance their prejudice and then modify their reactions based on exceptional phenomenon. However, noticing the exception proves the rule.
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Most Moderns practice obfuscation as their primary tactic, linguistically hiding behind implications, conjectures, and contradictions. Instead, philosophy requires exposition, linguistic clarification and revealing. Modernity avoids exposition at all cost because it would expose how little they actually know and believe, concerning language, words, and meanings. We (on this forum) have experienced this for years on the other "philosophy" forums. It happens often, that users absolutely refuse to define certain words or concepts that they advocate for. Because they know they would get pinned-down in argument and dialectic, if they were to do so. Thus they are acting on ignorance, which exposes their intent.

If they were truly interested in philosophy, exposition, then not knowing or admitting ignorance about concepts and definitions is acceptable. These were disputes about "philosophical honesty". If a person is truly interested in philosophy, and wants to learn, then during conversations and dialogues, all are required to relinquish their definitions, to expose all terms, so that any mistakes, falsity, half-truths, contradictions, become apparent. ILP was notorious for dodging any 'serious' argument, when put to the test. It happened countless times.

An obvious example: confront a Christian, Jew, Moslem, Abrahamic, and demand that they define 'God' for you. They won't. If they do then it will be vague, "God is Love!" Or, after confrontation, they will defer to external authorities (priests, theologians, the bible, etc).
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What Peterson calls 'good enough' is the goal, the objective. the ideal.
If the ideal is in your head, a noumenon with no external reference, then it can be anything a mind can imagine - subjective, arbitrary.
If the ideal is paced outside the mind, then it is not arbitrary, not subjective, but an objective which the subjective evaluates its own performance against.
Moderns wish to make all ideals subjective, so that nobody can ever be held accountable to anything shared, and nobody can feel inferior because the standard of measurement is in the mind, as is the ideal.

Variability of masculine/feminine is not an inconsequential factor.
It determines reproductive fitness, and determines which genes will be passed-on, more often, in the long run - in time.

When they discuss how conservatism is best for low population density environments, whereas liberalism is good for high population-density environments, they are talking about how Nihilism becomes a necessity when survival is no longer a stresser and the population experiences relative safety and comfort.  
then survival becomes a matter of tolerating and being tolerated by increasing populations - lowest-common-denominator becomes an ideal, as is hedonism, and finding ideals that help coexistence, while inhibiting natural survival strategies, such as mental/physical fitness, and reproduction.
What becomes necessary is docility, reduction of consciousness, of identity, as these promote discrimination, and awareness.

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Questions calling themselves "philosophical" that ask: "Does reality exist?", or "Is there free-will?", only expose the deep confusion Modern minds are trapped in, because they do not understand language, and what it is, and because they've detached their symbols/words from phenomena.
What is practiced is not an exploration of world, but an endless word-game, attempting to confuse itself using linguistic tricks, so that it does not have to face it.

Not philosophy, but psychology of self-medication.
The mind will use any method to protect itself from what threatens it. Shattering itself into a million little pieces is one way of compartmentalizing (schizophrenia), like a ship is divided into segments so that if its hull is breached it is not flooded by seawater, surrendering it to the abyss.
Symbols/words can become mental divides creating internal sub-divisions of incoherency.
This is then "unified" using vagueness and artistic mystification - synthesis of self-contradicting abstractions.
Primal, automatic emotion, requires no higher cognitive processes. It is where this confusion merges into feelings that need no clarity, or logic to validate them.
The body has its own reasoning, and when the mind come in conflict with its judgments, and its survival is on the line, it silences the mind, burying it in emotion, or in hedonistic narcosis.

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The muse, and/or abuse of symbols/words creates intentional or unintentional confusion.
The mind is then convinced it is thinking and seeking clarity when it is rearranging symbols in its head.
With no limiting connection to an order outside the mind, to guide and validate, words are left with only dictionary definitions and no other reference...but emotional, a pre-constructed ideal, part of their Top<>Down emoting.
Detaching symbols/words from natural order, also permits the mind to rename older methods of escapist detachment - reinventing Abrahamism, for example, by simply changing the words referring to the same abstractions.

This would be impossible if the mind is governed by masculine integrity, and a courageous clear motive.
Every words would have a specific intermediate connecting role, between mind and world, the idea(l) and the real.
Causality, natural order, patterns would impose upon the mind a restriction to how it can apply symbols/words, just as an artist governed by reality is restricted by world as to how to represent phenomena, exposing his talent in this regard.
An f-artist with no such limitations can scribble lines and call it profound, only requiring gullibility in the audience, and a good marketing agent to sell his dribble as meaningful "art".

In philosophy the artist is part scientist, and his medium are symbols/words/numbers.
Each word is a color, a shadow, a shape/form, referring to an external phenomenon, and not an arbitrary hue to be placed anywhere.
The proper application of hues is like the proper application of symbols/words, if reality is what is to be depicted, represented. If the motive is to express a psychology, or a repressed esoteric desire, then any colour in any place will do.
The artist/scientist does not mistake his won representation of the phenomenon, as the phenomenon itself...nor does he attempt to replace the depicted with the depiction, the world with the representative art.
Those who do are degenerates, with motives other than clarity - psychotics needing to rid themselves of internal anxieties...not artists but fArtists, expelling internal gasses and calling it musical.

In philosophy the exoteric directs the esoteric...and symbols/words are how the two connect:
Mind - Nervous System - Body
Noumenon - Symbol - Phenomenon
Idea(l) - Word - Real


The mind/noumenon/idea connects to the physical/body/phenomenon/real, via the symbol/word, or it is nothing more than a projection of mind/noumenon/idea, riding itself of accumulated nervous energies (stress, anxieties, emotions).
This is not philosophy.
We may call it psychology, politics, but not philosophy.

Philosophy places world before self, the real before the ideal, the phenomenon before the noumenon, seeking patterns, insight to understand what challenges and threatens its existence, or confronts its lack of clarity, its curiosity, its mental hunger to consume knowledge.


Each word, as defined within a language, can only refer to particular phenomena, or congruent phenomena.
The usage of "love" by Christians to mystify and comfort themselves by converting it to a god, is an example of how words, referring to behaviors evolved in space/time with specific biological functions, can be detached, "purified" and mystified, to make them into pure ideological nonsense.

It's always "positive" words that are mistreated thusly.
Positive in the selfish, emotional sense...as what is in the interest of a biological entity more interested in self-preservation, comfort, pleasure, than in clarity, integrity, honesty, reality.
Such is the fate of symbols/words like "human", "male/female", "morality", "value", "self", "love/hate", "good/bad or evil", "freedom", "will"...and so on.

By reconnecting the symbol/word to its original reference in world, using the dictionary as guide, the mind reteaches the symbol/word to world, and with it the mind/noumneon - it returns the symbol/word to its original role as mediating conduit towards reality.
The limitations placed upon the symbol/word's usage is more than compensated for by in creasing mental order, clarity, understanding....because with every re connection patterns that remained hidden, buried in confusion, emerge clear as day.

But Nihilists do not desire clarity. They obfuscate and convolute because reality is what they fear and want to escape, using symbols/words - they bury themselves in language, so that they do not see reality.
Not philosophy....but a psychosis, rooted in the same organic anxieties that made nihilism possible, that birthed Abrahamic methods of coping. Finding "joy" is infantile word-games; feeling powerful in manipulating, self and other minds using symbols/words; relieving themselves by slandering symbols/words to break their connection to reality and feel free to name themselves anything.

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The word "existence" refers to all that (inter)acts, and can be perceived.....whether it is or not perceived.
This cannot be called good or bad, but only as potentially so in relation to life that emerges within existence.

Nihilism thinks existence is bad, because it lacks the absolute it need to cope with it.
Realists only claim that existence is positive, in that it makes life possible, and recognize this as being subjective, because life is not a end of existence, but only what emerges from it.

Objectively, existence is neither good or bad, positive or negative, it simply is.
We use categories like positive/negative, from an objective standpoint, to differentiate patterned from non-patterned dynamics/energies - order from chaos.
That we, as living, ordering organisms, are partial to order, is to be expected, and has nothing to do with some secret higher 'truth'.
The emergence of order within chaos in a cosmos tending towards chaos, would be improbable without chaos (randomness), and without order, or varying qualities/degrees, chaos would be indistinct uniformity.

(Inter)Action (flux) of patterned and of non-patterned energies is Existence.
Existence is neither good nor bad, and only positive/negative in relation to life, which is ordering.

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