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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 7 EmptyFri Sep 23, 2016 4:01 pm

Thing about nihilists, and idiots, in general, is that they have no real experience with reality, outside human, sheltering, and predictability....so they can never accurately evaluate their own behaviour.
They have no standard, outside human political-economic, cultural memetic, artifices, to gauge their behaviour.
They come across as delusional imbeciles, within the boundaries of social conventions, declaring themselves anything, within a "reality' where identity is under question, and words need not adhere to causal chains, and linear time, not refer to anything other than emotion, and sensation - the malleable subjective.

As a consequence what is produced is what I call idealistic cliques, each one finding a shared identity, usually around some icon, which they've interpreted ni a manner that satisfies their shared psychosis, feeding into their shared need/suffering.
Uniformity of thinking, nihilism makes possible, is expressed as multiplicity, unhindered by any external limitation, any standard outside subjectivity - this leads to fragmentation, demanding increasing institutional supervision, substituting the corrective processes of nature.

Intervention upon natural processes produces genetic and memetic garbage, pollution, which necessitates further interventions, snowballing into a slow decline, until implosion comes as a result of the self-feeding system being unable to bring to bear the energies required to deal with the consequences its own interventions caused.
The apparent is in the form of pollution - material (physical) and genetic (dysfunctions: mental illness, physical diseases etc.).
What natural selection eliminates is preserved and allowed to propagate, resulting in increasing medical and policing interventions.

Intellectually, or noetically, as expressed in philosophy, political theory, judgments, the same process permits mental dis-eases to propagate, protected from the application of their won principles, sheltered from the full costs to their beliefs, permitting benefits to offer the believer the illusion that he know "truth".
As a result mental disconnection from reality, allows the mind to continue believing in any absurdity, world not correcting him, if he remains disciplined to systemic rules.
Philosophy is inundated with delusional ideologies, each interpreting the past in whatever sick way is appealing in the present.

As I've said elsewhere, Nihilism, by detaching from the regulating force of reality, can go off into flights of fancy, inventing any theory that satisfies the childish soul, protected form the consequences, it grows bold, arrogant, narcissistic - not humbled by reality, by nature.
with no past/nature to anchor them, to give them identity and strength, the modern mind can surrender to subjective delusion - in time this will produce pockets of delusion, where shared needs, psychosis, congregates, into gangs, cliques, centered around a detached from reality ideology, finding in icons a spiritual leader, a justification.
Protected from world, all they must remain disciplined to is the rule of allow and order which provides this sheltering. They can then go into any delusional direction they desire.

From the uniformity of Nihilism, starting from a basic founding principle of detaching from past/nature, explodes into multiplicity - fragmenting the uniformity.
Singularity of idea exploding into chaos of thinking.



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Predator instinctively senses weakness, in the way the prey walks, runs, stands, behaves.
The memetic virus, senses weakness in th way the prey uses words, constructs, grammar, sequences, rhythms, verbal tempo, symbol choices.

First step is to not frighten the prey. To remain hidden, before ambush, to not be sniffed out among the grass, the other is to coo, emit sounds the prey will find comforting, relaxing, intimate, to flatter, to use positive reinforcement, to get closer, to gain trust.
 

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With no external, shared, standard to evaluate perspectives, every imbecile can claim he understood a theory, is the true representative of a thinker, and there's no way to determine who is right and who wrong; all declarations, all interpretations, are just as plausible as the other... the only measure could be recitation, quotation, adopting and using the same jargon, showing memory, obsession, and more consistent contact with the thinker.
Philosophy is not that.
The standard of philosophy, as it is for its offspring science, is empiricism, sensually accessible phenomena, testability... prediction success (cost/benefit), utility.
Philosophy offers useful, pragmatic insights, or it is nothing but politics and spirituality.
The measure of quality, in science and philosophy is not how many believe in it, how it makes us feel, how "positive" it sounds, but how it relates to an experienced world, and consequently how applicable it is.

Many are now approaching science as they would religion: with an expectation, an emotional demand, a sense of entitlement – knowing automatically meaning overcoming, escaping, salvation.
This is corrupting philosophy, making it into a self-help discipline – chicken-soup for the soul.


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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 7 EmptySat Sep 24, 2016 6:43 am

Hyper-sensitivity versus Hyper-awareness

To be perceptible to subtle sensual input, is the consequence of higher cognitive functions.
Stimuli enter the brain continuously, most of it unprocessed, and never being integrated into an abstraction.
These stimulations fall away, in time, are stored, for a time in the sub-conscious, where they emerge during sleep, or express themselves as intuition, gut-feeling, a sensation the mind cannot rationalize.
Hyper-Awareness is a product of a more sophisticated mind, that can bring into consciousness more of the data streaming into the brain from external and internal sources.
It means the brain is lucid to a higher degree, having integrated more sensual input into its mental models, its abstractions - less unresolved sensation fall into the subconscious, or are lost in time.
Sensitivity of the sense organs to stimuli is a factor - organism cannot convert into neural code what its sense organ fails to be stimulated by.
Sense organ sensitivity is not the same as hyper-sensitivity.

Hyper-Sensitivity refers to a psychological state, or a weak nervous system, including brain, which is threatened by over-stimulation.
The nervous system's weakness being part of the organ hierarchies producing psychology, individual personality.
A weak nervous system can be a product of poor genes, or sheltering.
An organ protected from stimulations above a particular level will be more vulnerable to stimulation above it.
Like a muscle reacts to weight, or an eye reacts to sunlight when it has never experienced it above a muted level, like in a cave.
Sudden exposure to a level above the habitual may damage the sense organ, and the nervous system.
Hypersensitivity to ideas, is another example of sheltering.
Prolonged periods of protection from reality, or a product of inferior tolerance to anything above a certain level of stress, are the foundation of psychosis.
The mind shattered, stressed to its maximum capacity, if it is exposed to reality above the level used to within the sheltering controlled environment.
consequences of too much "love", producing a child unable to deal with world.
First contact may result ni a self-defensive retreat, after permanent damage has been absorbed.
Suddenness of the effect is where damage is dealt.
Gradual habituation, as that experienced through exercise, training, is best.
A delicate frame, suddenly exposed to a heavy burden, may break its bones, and rip its muscles.


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An old post of mine...

Much has been said about the aristocracy of strength and the ideal of obstinate will.
Even more has been said about the creative influences of aggression and the progressive drives of violence and destruction.
Setting aside our modern prejudices and our civilized sensibilities, for a moment, it would not be very hard to admit that, in general, it has been man’s basest nature and animal instincts – which have been labeled negative and deemed undesirable in more recent times – that are to be held responsible for man’s most exceptional discoveries and conquests.
Western Civilization, in particular, owes much of its success and popularity to a foundation of unrelenting struggle, a spirit of competitiveness and a tradition of ruthlessness, arrogance and brutality.
Instead of resisting self and denying natures dictums, in an effort to rise above them or become separate and indifferent to them, western man – except for those instances of external intervention by eastern philosophies and the effects of decadence – has been more inclined to accept reality as it is perceived and to embrace the totality of what it means to be a conscious, living being; science being just one more product of this western tradition.
So, it should not astound us to discover that it has been a predominately western intellectual practice to expand upon the efficiencies of natural selection, the virtues of the Will to Power, the natural tendencies of Capitalism, the majesty of, what the Hellenes termed, “friendly competition,” the merits of scientific methodology, the beneficial consequences of, what some have aptly called, the Lucifer Principle, and to excuse any destructive consequences or remain unapologetic about the ramifications and their collateral damages.
It’s a dog-eat-dog world out there, so it would seem prudent to aspire towards top dog status. Recognizing the rules, after all, is the first step towards empowerment, admitting them to one’s self is the second step and the next step, after that, is coming to terms with the implications.
It has been curious, therefore, for me to discover that a dominant common characteristic of a mind blessed or burdened with heightened awareness, which eventually leads to this sort of evaluation, is this, sometimes, contradictory exaggerated sensitivity – what I once referred to in an earlier essay as Hypersensitivity – and this inclination towards compassion, reverence and sympathy, in contradiction to, the before mentioned, evaluations.
The brightest and most interesting minds I’ve met, almost always, exhibited a profound over-sensitivity and a genuine, natural empathy towards all suffering and misery.
It’s as if, this struggle for power and control, gained through knowledge, is improved or even provoked by a deeper understanding of misery and helplessness.
Who better, then, can possess this connection to despair than one that has experienced it in one’s own life directly or that can, through imagination and empathy, connect to the wretchedness and powerlessness of another and experience it indirectly?
Here is why much of what is called wisdom, is in reference to a mind that understands what torment and weakness is and that has found methods and systems of dealing with it.
In my own compulsion to understand self and to analyze and control my environment and the sources of human rationality, I have acquired, as a side-effect, a deeper comprehension of human nature.
I hope.
I have been guided to the revelation that the root cause of all awareness and understanding is the ability to use imagination, with some degree of accuracy, which enables the mind to experience multiple perspectives without having to empirically experience them for itself.
It is evident that, there are two methods of acquiring information:
--The first is by personal experience, which places self in dangerous and precarious situations and is, by far, superior to any other, even if time consuming and inefficient.
--The second is using observation, analysis and deduction of second-hand experiences, which unburdens the individual from many of the costs but can only provide a hypothetical and uncertain judgment, resting on a foundation of faith.
But this second method, when used consistently, has a curious by-product, when coupled with a powerful imagination and an empathic disposition. It results in abstract reasoning.
This abstraction of reality, or the ability to construct precise mental models of external phenomena, so as to analyze them spherically and completely from a distance, enables the mind to avoid the personal consequences of direct experience and it surpasses sensual, physical limitations, maximizing efficiency and effectiveness at the expense of accuracy and certainty.
It also intensifies the minds capacity to become self-reliant, in the acquisition of reality and more independent in its production of belief.
This gift is often called critical thought and is dependent on sensual sensitivity and mental flexibility.
If it is sufficiently exercised and honed, this practice of extrapolation can even become more precise than the direct evaluations of a lesser mind’s experiential based deductions.
Here we must recognize that no judgment can be thoroughly accurate and that all evaluations must, as Kant put it, find correspondence and a connection to external empirical phenomena, as interpreted by the mind through sensual representation.
No abstract model can stand separate from sensual reality, for even the concept of self is the separation of sensual representations, what it called external, from intuitive mental processes and a priori concepts, what is called internal, realities.
The differentiating properties of critical reasoning can be readily perceived in how a mind remains skeptical and uncertain about its constructs, even in the face of supporting evidence, whereas another remains convinced and absolute about things it only superficially perceives, despite the absence of any evidence at all.

My view is that what is most responsible for rampant brutality and cruelty or even for the opposing phenomena of rampant gentleness and kindness, is this mis-evaluation of what lies at the heart of all men, by individuals lacking the capability to empathize – a mind that is unable to place one’s self in another’s shoes and from there deduce and induce motivations and perspectives, is incapable of grasping reality in any way approximating completeness – or the ability to doubt and question itself to any degree, leading to an absolute certainty about one’s own perspectives.
The determining factor for heightened perception is the effect of superior sensual receptivity and empathic interconnectivity which begins, in its early stages, with a veracious curiosity and an appreciation for minute detail.
Those able to consciously perceive detail and include it in the construction of opinion possess an advantage over those that can only perceive detail unconsciously, giving rise to intuitions, feelings or premonitions, or that cannot perceive detail to a comparable degree.
This because, one that is conscious of the totality of what participates in his or her judgments, has a better comprehension of the object or the concept being evaluated and judged, as opposed to someone sensing things without being able to explain how or why.
I can only explain this appreciation for detail as a result of genetic predispositions which is nurtured through an environment of necessity.
We can assume that a creature of the wild is more attuned to sensual details because its life depends on it whereas an animal brought up in captivity and relative safety is less sensitive, by comparison.
This hypersensitivity often expresses itself, early on, in a profound gentleness towards all living things and a desire to defend and to protect the most vulnerable and misunderstood, since the first realization of a rational mind is its own limitations, vulnerability and its shared destiny with every other living organism.
One becomes amicable to that which reminds it of its own hidden insecurities.
From this starting position of heightened receptivity and interconnectivity comes the recognition of personal imperfections and the psychological fatigue derived from the struggle to come to terms with one’s own powers and the confines of one’s control.
The world is not only a dangerous and unpredictable place but it is also indifferent to personal desires and hopes. The consequent pain and suffering, this leads to, and the inability to remain blind to it concludes, in those blessed or damned with the gift, in self-destructiveness, insanity or in an eventual exaggerated hardening of the spirit necessitated by self-preservation.
I am convinced that many of the philosophical positions espousing and glorifying confrontation, struggle, viciousness and the acceptance of natural inclinations, are grounded in a deep frustration with mankind’s impotence and a reaction against the weight of exaggerated sensitivity.
History’s greatest misanthropes have been sensitive souls that became disillusioned with mankind’s potential to become more than what it is and eventually came to realize that all creation is the result of the very things they abhorred.
I would also claim that history’s greatest villains were the product of hatred towards the perception of weakness and helplessness in the self, projected outward to those representing extreme cases of it.
For, what can be more disconcerting to awareness than the understanding that most altruistic, loving and compassionate ideologies are embedded in hypocrisy, selfishness and intolerance, and that there is nothing to be done about it, and what can be more distressing, to it, than the realization that pain and suffering are inseparable particles of what it means to be alive and, from which, only death can save us?
One is torn, at once, by a sense of gratitude and ingratitude with existence. To what direction one leans, on the scales of thankfulness and cynicism, is determined by factors out of our control.
Quite frustrating then, that it has always been those that have most vehemently proclaimed their own righteousness, benevolence and compassion, who have been the guiltiest of the opposite and ignorant about it, as well.
There are temples, churches and various places for worshiping “good”, “loving” gods, filled with the vilest and most unaware amongst us and the greatest tragedies that have befallen mankind have all begun with “good” intentions.
They, these simpleton absolutists, are the first and the loudest to declare their own “goodness,” humility and compassion in an effort, I suppose, to believe in it themselves or perhaps to disguise their innate vileness and primitiveness.
I would say that, in contradiction to common belief, the most genuine emotions of love and of compassion, can be found in those most fervidly denying the truthfulness and purity of these emotions, as a reaction against the vulnerability this exposes them to and partly owing to the slandering of these passions by individuals incapable of appreciating them honestly, purely and to their fullest.
It has also been those that proclaimed the gloriousness of war and the honor of battle, often displaying their willingness to prove their worth through artificial means of sporting events, digital simulations and extravagant verbalizations of machismo, which have been the guiltiest of ignorance concerning the realities of what they declared.
Only a fool would admit to an appetite for violence when all it is, is a projection of inner frustration, defensiveness and fear when facing a potential threat.
How appropriate, then, that those most often indulging in their primordial need for violence are the very ones that are the least aware of what this entails and the ones with the most to prove, through it.
The road a sensitive soul must take is fraught with danger, temptations and entrapments.
Yet, it is a necessary journey towards enlightenment.
Here are the stages of enlightenment, as I perceive them:

First Stage – An awakening to the world of sensual detail and empathic connectivity.
During this time the mind is struck by the callousness and brutality of the world around it and it seeks to sooth the troubled soul by offering guidance and help to those most in need of protection and nurturing.
Empathy for others is an indirect projection of love for self through others and the understanding that the fates of all are intertwined in an unforeseeable future.
All aware minds are differentiated from other, less aware, minds by the degree in which they are touched by pain and suffering in all things.
The inability to cause harm to animals, for instance, is a characteristic of heightened sensitivity to the world around it, by a mind seeking a way out of its own vulnerability.
This is the time when a mind is attracted to ideologies and utopian dogmas, promising much and delivering nothing.
Communism, Christianity, Equalitarianism, Liberalism, Nationalism become the life-preservers a mind grabs onto in despair.

Second Stage – An awakening to the limitations and powerlessness of the self against insurmountable odds and uncontrollable and imperceptible forces.
During this stage the limits of personal power are understood and the ensuing sense of helplessness and the consequent feelings of self-hatred, resulting in a desire to escape reality, either through death or through denial of need and self, come forth.
This is the period where the aware mind seeks peace and solitude and emotions are perceived as undesirable distractions that prevent reason from finding an earthly salvation.
Some find solace in nihilistic tendencies, of the Schopenhauer type, either through a Buddhist escape or a desire to cease to exist through suicide; some find solace in pre-existing ideologies and dogmas and embrace, what has been previously denied, in an effort to return to the first stage of naïve idealism and based on the hypothesis that all is probable if its impossibility cannot be proven absolutely; some turn inward in an effort to separate self from the world that is so vile and chaotic, often burying awareness by distracting it through fantasy or books or drugs or music or imagination separated from sensual perception; some literally seclude themselves – like Kaczynski attempted to do but failed in the end – cutting themselves off from the sources of their sensual distress. The sensual awareness of reality cannot be turned off, unless one uses artificial means, so one might attempt to limit the amount of information one is exposed to.

Third Stage – An awakening to the merits of callousness and indifference.
During this stage, and if the previous two are survived and surpassed, the mind rebels against its own empathy and connection to the universe.
The survival instinct kicks-in and self is placed on the pedestal of importance that was denied to it early on.
This is the time when the recognition of worthiness is emphasized and one’s own empathy, compassion and love is carefully offered only to those that warrant such sacrifices to psychological wellbeing and free-will.
This hardening of the skin should not be misinterpreted as an imitation of callousness and indifference of lesser minds that function instinctively and intuitively and with little understanding.
The differences being in that here, and after all the stages have been passed, the ability of compassion and empathy and love still exists but are now doled out sparingly and with stricter criteria than the old “Love thy neighbor” because they become precious commodities reserved for only the few.
Once the realization that the self is not like all the others and so redemption cannot be acquired in unison; that the mind cannot exist separated from its nature and the rules cannot be escaped by simply turning away from them; and that many living beings, particularly of the human kind, are really quit deserving of hatred and indifference, then the mind seeks out personal fulfillment and social interaction governed by reason rather than instinct.
No longer do the pains and sufferings of all find a sympathetic ear in one who has discovered the real quality of the average man and who has come to terms with man’s overall character and with nature’s methods.
Here I must mention, in conclusion, that we mustn’t misinterpret sensitivity, at least the sort I’m talking about here, as a kind of fragility or weakness, no more than we can call a man burdened with a two-hundred pound backpack feeble, when he buckles under the weight when his companion does not, under the weight of a one hundred pound backpack.
Exceptional receptivity can become a useful tool and an advantageous attribute, but it can also become detrimental to the individual possessing it, threatening not only sanity but life as well.
Whether the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, in this case, is a matter of perspective.



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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 7 EmptySat Sep 24, 2016 8:51 am

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A matter of perspective.
To the weak mind/body, what seems heavy, massive, is for the strong mind/body small and light.
To a mind/body atrophied in sheltered circumstances, particularly during its early years, whatever inherited potential faces nurturing's underdevelopment (retardation, stunting) consequences.
It is not guaranteed that one will survive stronger, what does not kill.
correct quote is...


Nietzsche wrote:
What does not kill me only  serves to make me stronger


...only "serves".

Such a traumatic experiences, the unforeseen impact of a threatening reality, may be survived, but the consequences will leave scars, damage so severe that it cripples the mind/body.
When mind/body is shattered, returning to its original form ( health, its inherited structure) will be impossible.


Heraclitus wrote:
No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.



In memory, an increasingly vague re-collection remains of what was.
In re-collection the past is idealized, cleared of all negative collateral effects. memory is the storing, as code, of abstractions/noumena, already a simplification/generalization of the apparent.
Distance of time, and of space recollects a purified past.
When we look upon a forest, from a distance, it seems divine, clean, full of potential.
We do not see the rotting cadavers, from ongoing struggles to survive, we do not feel the bug bites, we do not see the diseased branches, we do not smell the dying; we do not see or smell the feces littering the soil; we do not feel the anxiety of the unknown, being within it, in its midst of (inter)activity.
In memory we stand as gods beyond what we re-collect, and as gods we create what is pleasing to us.
Reality can correct our failing, self-serving recollections, because it is ongoing, it is present.
What is not present falls into the clouds of reminiscence, towards Lethe.    




The most discriminating, honest mind, cannot hope to gather all the pieces.
Some small fragment(s) will be lost in the crevices of space/time - some damage left unhealed.
Lost pieces to be replaced with our own manufactured substitutes - lost pieces to be filled in with ill-fitting parts.
What is broken limps, the bone does not heal perfectly - even in strength thickness substitutes what was smooth and proportional.
When skin is cut deep, the scar loses its feeling, the forms loses its symmetry - a re-minder of what was survived, if it is survived.

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Consumer/Consumed
Opposites attract only when one is attempting to feed a need, by assimilating what is weaker, breaking it apart, like in the process of digestion, to select what parts it needs, and expel the undesired, or when one is dissatisfied with self and wants to be assimilated by something/someone who will compensate for its own deficiencies.

Obsession, and addiction are found here.

Agape/Eros
The similar attracts when one likes himself and his past/nature, wanting to find others, of his/her kind to cultivate their shared traits, principles, ideals - genetics/memetics.

Erotically, a female (and a male) loving herself, finds a male who is like her, to reproduce her traits.
She rejects what is unlike her not wanting to dilute or destroy her own qualities.

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When my feet are firmly on the earth, have found their grounding, and I've grown to trust them, my head can turn outward and upwards, towards the distant horizon, and the heavenly beyond.  

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A child is convinced it is the only one wanting to have fun, the teenager is convinced it is the only one that can have fun.

The obsessed one is convinced he is the only one who can appreciate what he has become addicted to.

The naive are convinced they are the only ones who can marvel.

Inferiority finds something to raise itself above what it feels insecure about.

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When world stands in the way towards our goals, we deflate, shrinking to a size that will be undetectable, trying to slip through the crevices, or we inflate to a size that can help us step over what is blocking our path.

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Natural Quality Detectors
Women have evolved an innate resistance to pretense.
When males evolved the ability to lie, to pretend, to fake it, so as to impress females and find a mate, their performance did nothing about the inferior genes they carried, and these were passed in using trickery.
The gene of hypocrisy is part of the male’s sexual game.
In the genetic conflict of male/female reproductive specialization, females had to evolve an intuitive lie-detector, and like many traits in nature, it needn’t be lucid, or precise, but only relatively effective.
Female talent for detecting liars and pretentious wannabe's is part of their reproductive role, filtering out weak genes, preventing them from passing-on to future generations.
Social memetic rules, enforcing a slackening of sexual options, made this natural ability less effective, like it took away a male's natural genetic advantages.
Social conventions did not eliminate the genetic trait, they only blunted it.
Females can still detect fakes, but they have fewer options, besides guile.
Of course their inability to rationalize their intuitions still makes them susceptible to pretence.
     

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Psycho-Politics
Right is obsessively nepotistic and the left is psychotically naive.

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Personal God
In a post-God era, the average moron asks:
"What is the best life?", and no longer receives an answer, except form the wannabe replacements Messianic Abrahamic echoes, and secular spiritualism.
The answer is right in front of him: a personal, relationship with an indifferent, unconscious, objective world: subjective meets objective.
World works in mysterious ways...but its most obvious voice is cost/benefit.

If the relationship is one sided, or out of touch, the world will most certainly not fail to make its dissatisfaction obvious.
If the believer fails do humble himself, or show the proper deference, the consequences will be immediate.

What lie, what words, what ignorance or innocence will help him then, and for how long?   

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All it takes is to love the pain, to overpower those morons with their techniques and learned methods...like regurgitating Nietzsche.
All it takes is to love the pain....physically.... mentally...in every which way.
To feel alive in it.

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When males are reduced to surrogate females, and made obsolete with techniques/technologies, what will be lost is the spirit of conflict, the anti-authority soul, that produced science and philosophy.
What will remain will be organs with no bodies - service zombies.  

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A cuckold externalizes his internal shame - he avenges himself against the ones that hurt him.
He repeats his shame, unburdening himself from its weight.
He casts another, his mate, in the role of his feminized spirit, and watches himself being used sexually by a stranger - usually some brute with low intelligence.


A feminized weakling must return to the one he surrendered to, was emasculated by, hoping to avenge himself against all those who, unlike him, never bowed down, were never seduced, or mind-raped.
In the place of the one who seduced and abused him he will place a representation of the one who made him aware of his weakness, of his secret shame, and how he enjoyed the surrender, wanting to use this surrogate to accentuate the power of seduction, so that those who never surrendered will finally fall to their knees, and when this happens he will finally be free of his own shame.    

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Deluded Resentment of a born Victim
A victim wants to victimize all, so that his own pain and suffering, and his own weakness and shame, will no longer be so obvious.

He studies his master to imitate what he submitted to.
He studies the free-spirit to become a more masterly master - combining his own master's powers, the one he could not resist, and he integrates it with the spirit of those that got away from what he submitted to, the one who did resist, desperate to become a master over all, including those his own master could not dominate.  

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It's difficult to take a Modern seriously, when he thinks someone is trying to tell him what he ought to do.

Truth is, nobody is trying to make him do or not do anything, all I, we, are saying is that we ought not stand in the way of the consequences of his choices, judgments.
He ought to do anything he chooses, if we are not expected to pay on his behalf.

Costs/Benefits ought to be entirely upon him.
Otherwise, he becomes an imbecile who thinks his choices have minimal costs, and that all judgments are equal.



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Mothers and Daughters
Christianity had to distance itself from Judaism. It distinguished itself by claiming to be different.
Marxism had to distance itself from Christianity. It distinguished itself by claiming to be different.

Will not a newborn daughter distance herself from her mother, if she hopes to be independent of the past, and make a name for herself?


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New Shield
Defeated warriors take away from the fight, if they survive it, scars, and bruises, but also experience.
They then want a memento of their survival, and they craft armor and shield copying those the victor wore.

He returns to the battlefield wearing them, hoping he also absorbed the victor's spirit, symbolized by his new image.

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Hedonism is the final destination of every base mind.
With nothing else to idealize it idealizes the sensation of fulfilment.
It idealizes idealism.
With no end, the means becomes the end.

It reverts to a primal level, and calls this an epiphany, using all kinds of jargon to hide this fact.

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Stress burns away stored fat.
Fear focuses the mind, triviality falling by the wayside.
War returns woman from her hedonistic exploits, her careless extravagances, back to her center, her womb.
There she finds her past, and her perfect mate.

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What is implied in Feminization of Mankind, is that women, appearance reflecting psychology, are stunted in their mental and physical development, or their specialization is a regression to facilitate the demands imposed upon them.

Round, soft, child-like features, playful, gullible, intuitive, a child-like psyche, temper tantrums, a need for support, for constant reaffirmation, a natural submission to authority, social behavior, a need for playmates, for a supporting network, a safety-net.

What does feminization produce but emasculated males, in other words infantile males, child-like, immature - only for them it isn't part of their specialized sexual role, but a result of sheltering, and due to the imposition of an external will (parent) which stunts natural development, and keeps them in perpetual adolescence.
Spoiled brats.
I call them men-children.
They appear like they are male, because genes are to past/nature, manifested as appearance/presence, but their mind, their psychology is stunted - nurturing has suppressed the attainment of their full intellectual/psychological potential.
They are happy contributors to their own sheltering. (path-of-least-resistance)
They are closer to the feminine, as male prepubescent children are.

Surrogate females, under the dominance, authority of the institution - church, state, or an ideal.
females submit to social rules, to culture, easily, not requiring an understanding of it - they do so instinctively, and are also quick to change their loyalties when hierarchies shift,. and one meme becomes subordinated, assimilated by another.
The usual [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] are present, accompanied by an obsession with some masculine figure, God, Nietzsche, Pagan symbols...etc.
An infantile mystification by toys, or words....a surrender to fantasy, fairy-tales the extraordinary...anything that alters reality and lets imagination flow free.

The masculine figure, institutional representative, some historical icon, it can be anything, is a stand-in for the parent, or the dominant male.
Such men-children compete over which one of them will be the dominant male's preferred female, alpha female.
Breaking out of this prolonged state of infancy may express an adolescent rebelliousness against the masculine icon, an obvious but hidden imitation of the icon that dominates, a need to kill the father figure, to destroy the icon and replace it.
Natural rites of passage are directed toward this dominant masculine figure, this icon/representation.

If it is an abstraction, an institution represented by different people over time, a manchild is committed to an ambition to be that representative, and this is followed by a desire to become the institution - man-child dreams of being, himself, an institution: grand ambitions for an emerging adolescent psyche.
Coming of age.




Children lie, lacking integrity and wanting to avoid accountability.
Men-Children are suck creatures.
They [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], shamelessly, sometimes they convince themselves with their own lies.
They constantly evade accountability- finding excuses, wanting to unburden themselves of the consequences of their own [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

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Those who have never been fathers can never fully understand the magnitude of love in the "cruelty" of a father, wanting to prepare his child for the world.

A love so magnanimous that it suffers the pain of his child, and endures its resentment.  

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You can see the wonder in the men-child's eyes.
He is truly having fun playing "pretend" with his friends.

There's no doubting the authenticity of the emotion.
The same innocence of one who is living in his own private world, and has managed to involve other playmates into his game.
Postponed costs, for an immediate benefit.
As benefit increases minus the costs, the costs do not erase - there is no bankruptcy clause, with some minor inconveniences when it comes to existence.

You pay the costs in increments (advisable) or in lump sums.
There is no institutional safety net.

You do drugs, the immediate benefits will be paid; you live beyond your means, the benefits enjoyed now will be paid later; you live in delusion, detached from reality, in a pleasing subjective, private magical world, you haven't escaped, you've, perhaps, momentarily postponed the "bill" to be paid.  

If you honestly consider the issue, what we have here is a life paid for continuously.
All of us are born in the "black", owing every drink we will ever have, every house we will ever buy or rent, every morsel of food we ingest, every breathe we inhale, every cloth we use to protect ourselves from the elements.
You owe it, whether it be via some institutionalized system controlling resources, or in nature where the costs/benefits are never guaranteed, or are never as predictable.
To be "rich" means you are, momentarily, in the "red", but for how long when time goes on?
You may have extended the choices of your benefits, accentuated them, but you've not rid yourself of the costs.  


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An only-child's psychology, especially an only son, is different from one that has siblings, particularly married with children.
There's less pressure, and so less guilt associated with remaining on the periphery of human social activities, memetic and genetic.

Child-less women have less pressure, because their circumstances are a matter of personal choice, but a boy has the added shame of not being able to pass on the bloodline, not because of choice, but because of being judged unworthy.
He becomes his entire bloodlines net worth, and though not affected personally he carries this as a testament of a choice denied.

Such males usually compensate by seeking to become a memetic fertilizer, a priest, or a guru, fertilizing minds because fertilizing wombs is either not an option, or too costly for them to consider.  
An only son is both first born and last born - burdened and pampered.

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How we go out of our way to forgive a loved one - a parent, a child, an icon, a god.
How willing to look again, to listen more intently, wanting to find some detail that we can manipulate into forgiveness.
How unwilling we are to consider the possibility that we may have been mistaken, our judgment flawed, our reasoning corrupt.

Our invested passion unable to break free, doubles-down, increasing our love, explaining our foolishness with a vague factor nobody has yet considered.
We fall into certain destruction to save our ego.
This is our faith.    

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Those who do not believe in the words they speak, need others to hear them, proving they were spoken, and in their speaking they need another to believe them, because they cannot.

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Desperation, for the average Modern idiot, goes so fr as to try to absolve himself of all past, all nature, all nurturing that preceded the appearance, the presence, what it experiences as the event.
Such a creature of illness desperately attempts to incorporate all past/nature as a product of the here and now.
It wants to implode all existence into a immediate event.



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Reading the two poles of nihilism debate the meaning of ubermench is excruciating to read.
one is pulling his hair, as he is gripping his gut.

One wishes to perceive the metaphor as the sovereign, the will that imposes whatever reality it deems beneficial to itself, the other wishes to repudiate this, by leveling all to meaninglessness, only overcome with a shared, compromise.

Watching cripples wrestle is both funny and gut wrenching pitiful.
One cannot decide between crying and laughing.
The outcome is a combination of the two.



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