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WE have a race bingo today, not yet sure if it's done by native or by a refugee, they found a body of 14 year old girl which was burned, rumours (not yet facts) tell that the girl was raped, stabbed and burned in Joutseno, Joutseno also has a refugee center in there and police is yet quiet about the incident...So we will hear tomorrow about the details, we got only rumours which suggest that perpetrators weren't natives

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Police warned the public "not to make conclusions and spread rumours in the social media that the perpetrators are possibly refugees, because there is not reason to suspect, because this will only do harm ", police is yet to confirm anything
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The most "relevant" information police said about the incident for the media is that "do not suspect refugees"

It could be a native as well, but you can see how skeptical public has become, doesn't trust the police.

Edited: 1.11 police confirms there is no burning, not yet said anything about raping either, just saying that the perpetrator was a 19 year old "Finn" and the victim a 16 year old girl, not yet knowing if it's actual a native Finn, because not the first time media talks about integrated migrants being "Finns". (but at this point it doesn't really matter)

Edited: 1.11 Now the police has asked reservists to help "protect" the local youths from reporters, really weird

Edited: 3.11 Apparently it was just a murder, Finnish guy who murdered a friend of his girlfriend.
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Newspaper interviewed few refugee "engineers", then readers found some pictures of these guys. Doesn't their room tell everything about the purpose of their trip here, there isn't proof them being persecuted either.
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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
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Google translate translates fine enough, there was just recently this case in Sweden where African boys harassed 14 year old girls in school  (tried to pull down pants, touching etc)  teacher didn't intervene, then one day girl got raped in a schoolyard by the same negro who was harrassing her.

" Headmasters of the high immigrant school in Alvesta did not intervene when the Swedish girls were sexually harassed.

It ended with one of the girls was raped in a bush in the schoolyard. But even after that let the school management the alleged African boys still go to the same school as the victims. "
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Another Pedo here, first thing these bearded men do is to go to childrens playground and take selfies with them

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Kosovo


Magazine Kosovo 2.0 
Poet Shpëtim Selmani
On the first day blood was created 
on the second day death 
on the third love was mentioned 
and then there were no days left for us

Germany


Magazine ZEITmagazin 
Poet Saša Stanišic
We've lost our secrets. Gave them away, like our well-built weapons,
only involuntarily. We shake babies, when Bayern lose a match, we are as beautiful as a bishop's residence. We bet our beer will take over, a monument for Erwin
Rommel, our epics, our migrants in the theatre, our Russian energy

Belgium


Magazine De Morgen Magazine 
Poet Maud Vanhauwaert
Small, but with a central location 
And with views aplenty. Belgium is a house 
With many rooms – where things get shuffled and pushed around – 
Behind curtains where all of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Europe wanders past

Netherlands


Magazine Volkskrant Magazine 
Poet Johnny Ceres Jr
We from on top of each other
Are not like iron on iron
But are like slipping in
When nobody's looking for a moment

Italy


Magazine Il Venerdì di Repubblica 
Poet Valerio Magrelli
On a Turkish Song to Italy
Dear Italy, At last you're in my sight
I salute you, friendly shores!
The whole peninsula rests
Encircled by a craving necklace
Of the drowned.
Every one of them is a crumb
Scattered to find the way home
But the fish have eaten them 
and the clandestini [illegal immigrants]
Lost in the sea without return
Wander like Tom Thumbs
Sown in the water all around

Greece


Magazine ViMagazino 
Poet Dimítris Dimitriádis
The Buried Cradle
The crisis is not the same in Greece as in other countries. 
Everyone says, no matter how they say it, Greece is the cradle of Europe. 
Europe should consider its roots and reconsider its values. 
And see in Greece, and Greece in itself, the painful present, 
the raw material for a brand-new cradle

United Kingdom


Magazine Observer Magazine 
Poet Don Paterson
Whereinsoever
What country? And you try being so far adrift 
in this weather. Still, we have our two-edged gift 
of tongues to watch, and tongues we find to sing 
of London's Babylon, Skye's Wyoming

Turkey


Magazine Radikal 
Poet Murat Mentes
The aliens sniffing the aromas rising from Turkish kitchens
The aliens hearing poems of Rumi, melodies of Mevlevis
The aliens seeing the brightness of the Bosphorus, of domes, of young smiles
Ask each other: "Those signals do come from the Earth, but which part exactly?"
One among them gives the answer: "From Europe, of course, where else?!"

Switzerland


Magazine Das Magazin 
Poet Jürg Halter
Pro Helvetia
As neutral as a cheese free of inhibitions
Thriving in a golden bank safe
In the shade of chocolate-covered mountains
Where every cliché becomes a shrieking reality: Pro Helvetia


Austria


Magazine Falter 
Poet Michael Stavarič
Barely have I closed my eyes

and I think to myself
That I fit in there perfectly
In you, my beloved Austria
And everything is good
For 10, 12, 13 breaths
Barely awake again, I am asked if I will 
be writing an obituary to
you, my beloved Austria
And I hear myself say
Yes, yes, oh yes
And then that truly frightened me

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Kosovo/a and Turkey have the best messages.


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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


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A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
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Migrants Entertain Themselves By Pulling Up Woman’s Dress in France
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[https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc]

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Cutting off the middle-fingers of non-Europeans and degenerates should be a start..

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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in 1909, using the pseudonym of Archibald Smith, the Austrian book illustrator Gottfried Sieben painted “Balkangreuel” (Balkan Horror), a series of twelve lithographs showing Turkish soldiers in the act of gang-raping and killing women. The images are highly raw and explicit, but they also have an historical value.

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More corroboration of rape incidence among recent years of mass immigration into our Europe:
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My friend who lives in France says she can only go out armed and during the daytime.
It's most unfortunate that men cannot, nay, refuse to protect our women, and women refuse to be protected.
The State as governance is decidedly making a critical mistakes by relinquishing its controlling power to protect the populace, primarily women.

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Greeks sabotaging refugee boats. Turkish navy picks them up in the end:
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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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Mama Merkel!
Mother of vermin,
Anti-mother to Europa,
Whore to all,
Whoring out Europa's legacy;
Mama Merkel!

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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Last night 14 year old girl got raped in a hometown of a prime minister Sipilä by 2 refugees.

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Only concern for the journalist here was to ask "Why did they have to mention ethnicity of the perpetrators?"

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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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1. "Youth, oh, youth! | of whom then, youth, art thou born?
Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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What about pig heads as revived totem symbol of European peoples..

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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."
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Another 14 year old girl raped within a week, in Raisio, refugee suspect
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Abdi Salaan Ahme Kulane was sentenced for rape in Helsinki, he lured a woman in his house promising substances, he ripped off the victims clothes, punched, strangled and bit her and then raped her. After he first raped her, he started praying and then the victim tried to escape, but he caught her and raped her again.

Court of appeals did think this was cruel, but not enough cruel to count it as aggrevated assault.
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Fundamentally, these liberal cheek turners and spreaders rely on the idea that being good to the Muslim culture will change their behavior towards them. They open their homes to them and pay for their education, attempting to either convert the minds of the monsters who would commit this directly and individually (any sane person would question this motive - like a battered woman saying she doesn't hate her husband because that would mean he wins) or to convert the monsters through gaining the favor of the Muslim population and utilizing their gratitude to make them shame the abusers for them. Alternatively,  they will try to say that the Muslim population does not actually mean increase in rapes or murders or beheadings or any other bad corollary - a statement of fact they want to argue isn't a burden for them to prove, since the default position is always an egalitarian "all are equal". Or, of course,  they ask you to prove it. Then they will invent explanations for why the correlations are incorrect - meanwhile they acknowledge climate change. Better yet, they will provide a graph which shows there is no correlation - and this would have to suffice for you that, since they're no different criminally, you should have to live with them, despite not wanting to. Then you may encounter the "if you don't like it, leave" idea. Further still they may argue that putting up with rape and death is a price europe should pay, for europe should convert their children to become like europeans - as it is Europe's responsibility... no matter the cost. Then, of course, the fundamental emotional argument that you're heartless if you do not want to help these poor fleeing souls.

I don't have answers to all these, but I try to call it like it is, as far as I can.. At least for now. It's nothing new for most, if not all, of you.
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Finnish street patrol "Soldiers of Odin" was interviewed in Polish media
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Police here obviously condemns any civil street patrols and crime preventing activism, they are not the only ones doing street patrols.
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Also I forgot to mention about this [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] which is the most popular alternative news sites here (along with magneettimedia exposing zionism), is exposing Finnish media lies and propaganda. The quality of some stories are bad and has some tasteless humour, but still it's been extremely influential, even have helped police to catch few criminals because readers give so much material for the magazine.

And the site is not to be taken for granted, for it's been under attack for a long time, and still is. The guy who made that page is currently living in Spain and has servers over there so they can't take down the servers. If the page had servers over here, it would have been taken down long time ago and the guy would probably be sitting in jail.

The whole of Finnish mainstream media is being questioned by everyone because of this very site so they try denigrate it, they curse this site, saying it spreads lies. But in reality it is weeks ahead of mainstream media on all news and gives out more detailed news and reveals censored news which mainstream media doesn't tell you.
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Fundamentally, these liberal cheek turners and spreaders rely on the idea that being good to the Muslim culture will change their behavior towards them. They open their homes to them and pay for their education, attempting to either convert the minds of the monsters who would commit this directly and individually (any sane person would question this motive - like a battered woman saying she doesn't hate her husband because that would mean he wins) or to convert the monsters through gaining the favor of the Muslim population and utilizing their gratitude to make them shame the abusers for them. Alternatively,  they will try to say that the Muslim population does not actually mean increase in rapes or murders or beheadings or any other bad corollary - a statement of fact they want to argue isn't a burden for them to prove, since the default position is always an egalitarian "all are equal". Or, of course,  they ask you to prove it. Then they will invent explanations for why the correlations are incorrect - meanwhile they acknowledge climate change. Better yet, they will provide a graph which shows there is no correlation - and this would have to suffice for you that, since they're no different criminally, you should have to live with them, despite not wanting to. Then you may encounter the "if you don't like it, leave" idea. Further still they may argue that putting up with rape and death is a price europe should pay, for europe should convert their children to become like europeans - as it is Europe's responsibility... no matter the cost. Then, of course, the fundamental emotional argument that you're heartless if you do not want to help these poor fleeing souls.

I don't have answers to all these, but I try to call it like it is, as far as I can.. At least for now. It's nothing new for most, if not all, of you.

They fear the accusation of racism more than they do the real prospect of the extinction of their people, nation and culture. That's the heart of it. It's how they've been completely disarmed morally. They ignored Rotherham for years because the perpetrators were pakistani. To prosecute them would have been to feed the Right, to prove correct what their enemies were saying.
They want to be correct, or to reflect what has been established for them as being correct, rather than act in their own self-interest or in the interest of those in their in-group, the latter in fact is shameful: virtuous people don't act in their own self-interest, they act in the interest of others.
Here you can see the Judaeo-christian influence.

So in the same way, the defense of Europe in the face of social collapse and repopulation with non-europeans becomes irrelevant in the face of brown people in need. They're too ashamed to think or speak of the former, while the latter gives them a moral high and a way in which they an compete with other Europeans over who is the moral superior (a remnant of their natural instinct).

To summarize, at the core of all action is moral justification. To do something with passion and sincerity you must believe that it is right, just, moral. You cannot fight for something that is shameful, you can't even speak about it. If your past, your culture, your civilization, your identity is shameful to you, then you cannot fight for it, you cannot defend it, you cannot assert it in a hostile, indifferent universe. The concept, European, is indefensible if those who are European do not fundamentally believe that they should exist, that they have a right to exist, that their existence has worth, will have worth.

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4.—The aim is to disarm the enemy.

We have already said that the aim of the action in war is to disarm the enemy, and we shall now show that this in theoretical conception at least is necessary.

If our opponent is to be made to comply with our will, we must place him in a situation which is more oppressive to him than the sacrifice which we demand; but the disadvantages of this position must naturally not be of a transitory nature, at least in appearance, otherwise the enemy, instead of yielding, will hold out, in the prospect of a change for the better. Every change in this position which is produced by a continuation of the war, should therefore be a change for the worse, at least, in idea. The worst position in which a belligerent can be placed is that of being completely disarmed. If, therefore, the enemy is to be reduced to submission by an act of war, he must either be positively disarmed or placed in such a position that he is threatened with it according to probability. From this it follows that the disarming or overthrow of the enemy, whichever we call it, must always be the aim of warfare. Now war is always the shock of two hostile bodies in collision, not the action of a living power upon an inanimate mass, because an absolute state of endurance would not be making war; therefore what we have just said as to the aim of action in war applies to both parties. Here then is another case of reciprocal action. As long as the enemy is not defeated, I have to apprehend that he may defeat me, then I shall be no longer my own master, but he will dictate the law to me as I did to him. This is the second reciprocal action and leads to a second extreme (second reciprocal action).

Carl von Clausewitz wrote:
The military power must be destroyed, that is, reduced to such a state as not to be able to prosecute the war. This is the sense in which we wish to be understood hereafter, whenever we use the expression "destruction of the enemy's military power."

The country must be conquered, for out of the country a new military force may be formed.

But if even both these things are done, still the war, that is, the hostile feeling and action of hostile agencies, cannot be considered as at an end as long as the will of the enemy is not subdued also; that is, its Government and its allies forced into signing a peace, or the people into submission; for whilst we are in full occupation of the country the war may break out afresh, either in the interior or through assistance given by allies. No doubt this may also take place after a peace, but that shows nothing more than that every war does not carry in itself the elements for a complete decision and final settlement.

In this context, European identity itself is considered an act of war.
Racism is a memetic weapon designed to disarm a population of it's will to defend itself, it's will to preserve itself, it's ability to see it's identity as a worthwhile concept.

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Parasites prefer a weakened host.
One could think that it's not in the interest of the parasites to actually kill the host.
But the parasite must do what the parasite does - what is in its nature - and so it will not stop and kill the host.
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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
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A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
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