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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 14, 2018 5:55 pm

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I'm not seeing this. What i am seeing is the female competing directly with the male in order to obtain the overall power, to the point where i can safely say that she wants to be male or take the males' places. I have even seen people say things like " well, maybe it's a massive shit test where deep down inside they wish to be dominated"..I'm not seeing this neither, they don't care about powerful males, in terms of being liked by them, they get jealous and envious of them as a man would, if not even more now, and seek to destroy them..and also the female's selection choice is heavily in the direction of feminine men.

Perhaps what you have stated applied in before times, but definitely not now, here in the west.
                                                                           

She can't feel like she's in charge and changing the world if there is a dominant and competent man around making her panties wet and reminding her that she's not even in charge of her own body.


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 14, 2018 6:33 pm

Or maybe those types of women you speak of are those who have accepted the institution as their mate, and an attraction to another man makes her feel disloyal, dirty, a "sinner" and so this could also be why she chooses a submissive mate, as she never has to give herself to him, she remains loyal to her master.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 14, 2018 7:01 pm

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Or maybe those types of women you speak of are those who have accepted the institution as their mate, and an attraction to another man makes her feel disloyal, dirty, a "sinner" and so this could also be why she chooses a submissive mate, as she never has to give herself to him, she remains loyal to her master.

I think that's apart of it, but i also think she thinks the more masculine male will cheat and will be less reliable in the future, a feminine male is more maternal.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 14, 2018 8:34 pm

Perhaps then the willing participants of pornography especially in the case of the woman is a revengeful act into a public display of self abuse projected as a menacing temptation, flirting the destruction of society in the face of male integrity, socially justified as sexual freedom and legally justified as employment to ensure the protection of a growing disease.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 14, 2018 11:09 pm

Feminism is the overt externalization of her inner passive defense, allowing the ego to meet it self through and around the woman, often overflowing into over estimation, or even narcissism, or delusion. A social strategy in the form of a war cry, a much needed aid for the woman before her inevitable realization.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 21, 2018 8:07 am

Dunno. But all I'm saying is, a Star Wars movie, but instead of the Empire, Feminism, would be interesting. Like instead of the Imperials floating on a Star Destroyer, they are Nuns floating on a spaceship of celibacy, and instead of saying "rebel scum", saying "male scum". And any planet which is not celibate and/or sexually disobedient, they blow up with a space laser, saying the planet chose "suicide" rather than to become "civilized", like them. And they laugh and drink champagne over all the dead males of the planet, because they are heartless psychopathic assholes.

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Feminism is the overt externalization of her inner passive defense, allowing the ego to meet it self through and around the woman, often overflowing into over estimation, or even narcissism, or delusion.  A social strategy in the form of a war cry, a much needed aid for the woman before her inevitable realization.
Actually, I do know, you are right, hit it on the head.

The male ego, is what prevents male homosexuality. A male does not want to submit to another male like that. So when a female develops a male ego, it starts exhibiting signs and symptoms of feminism, feeling disgust at the male sexual advance, like it's brain starts behaving like a male's does.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 21, 2018 12:00 pm

Feminists could never build a Star Destroyer tho

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySat Apr 21, 2018 12:03 pm

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Feminists could never build a Star Destroyer tho

True, but in the movie they could be lorded over by some kind of Alpha male who hates mankind and wants to exterminate the other males for some reason.

Sort of like that book where robots invade humanity, and they are secretly controlled by one human being.

Or, another option is, in the movie they could simply force engineers to be slaves, like in Star Wars Rouge One. Or another option, they could have contests where people can only get laid, by building them stuff, in exchange for sexual services.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyThu Jun 07, 2018 2:02 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 12:38 pm

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I don't buy it...I understand where you are coming from but we have to talk degrees here...If an arab is a higher social status(based on the modern reversed hierarchy) then why not a crack-head nigger, then why not a down-syndrome dwarf Somali with four legs... The propaganda impacts the world-view but not to a degree of complete blindness and an eradication of biological perspective in a human that doesn't give into it purposefully

Niggers look like shit, smell like shit, and are dumb as shit. You have to be extremely indoctrinated and/or degenerate to want to fuck them.

Arabs at least look human, and they kind of resemble Europeans in appearance, some more than others.

This is when, NAXALT does not apply.

Yes in general the males do look the way you describe. However, there are some good looking black females here and there. And you framed the statement in "You" implying a singular entity. A singular entity will naturally gravitate to the best looking black females around, thus the group appearance is irrelevant for their singular purpose.

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Negroes seem to have higher gender dymorphism and the males revert to losing more neoteny and a more primal and deformed homoeretcus appearance for more strength in outdoors areas. Thus their obsession with sports in general. The obsession with shoes, is most africans had to chase their prey on foot for several miles because they generally focused more on footwork than tech. Higher gender dymorphism is proven by rap music, as they treat females like "other" as in simply hoes and not humans on their level. Whites generally view females as a copy of themselves and just a person born into different circumstances than themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 3:17 pm

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This is when, NAXALT does not apply.

Yes in general the males do look the way you describe. However, there are some good looking black females here and there. And you framed the statement in "You" implying a singular entity. A singular entity will naturally gravitate to the best looking black females around, thus the group appearance is irrelevant for their singular purpose.

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That is not an "ideal" specimen of a black female that represents their most pureblooded features. To even judge a black female under the standards of European Symmetry can be seen as an insult to their being, which some SJWs have managed to figure out. They also just don't treat their women like "other" but their children in general which explains why they never grew outside of Africa, they never put any work in nurturing and educating their children like a K-type race would.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 5:44 pm

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OnWithTheirHead wrote:

This is when, NAXALT does not apply.

Yes in general the males do look the way you describe. However, there are some good looking black females here and there. And you framed the statement in "You" implying a singular entity. A singular entity will naturally gravitate to the best looking black females around, thus the group appearance is irrelevant for their singular purpose.

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That is not an "ideal" specimen of a black female that represents their most pureblooded features. To even judge a black female under the standards of European Symmetry can be seen as an insult to their being, which some SJWs have managed to figure out. They also just don't treat their women like "other" but their children in general which explains why they never grew outside of Africa, they never put any work in nurturing and educating their children like a K-type race would.

I am mostly a realist but a bit of an idealist. In terms of America most blacks are not going to be pureblooded negroes and the people we are talking about are likely not going to buy a trip to africa to buy some pureblooded negro for fun times, they are mostly going to be interested in a negroid american woman who may look attractive similar to the picture I posted and such.

Personally I don't care if some hardcore, ultimate negro black in africa feels insulted by my post, if they do so beit.
If some SJW whines about it so beit. Im not an expert on africa but if they do view their women as children that is kind of concerning because that implies africans have some kind pedophile tendencies.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 6:17 pm

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I am mostly a realist but a bit of an idealist. In terms of America most blacks are not going to be pureblooded negroes and the people we are talking about are likely not going to buy a trip to africa to buy some pureblooded negro for fun times, they are mostly going to be interested in a negroid american woman who may look attractive similar to the picture I posted and such.

Personally I don't care if some hardcore, ultimate negro black in africa feels insulted by my post, if they do so beit.
If some SJW whines about it so beit. Im not an expert on africa but if they do view their women as children that is kind of concerning because that implies africans have some kind pedophile tendencies.

It's not so much about insult as it is applying the proper standard of symmetry.

If we take into account offspring, then no mixed black woman, is more E-symmetrical than even the lowest white.

They aren't even symmetrical in relation to their own race and environment, their splintered past and genes typically also result in mental & psychological dysfunction.

Black men don't prefer white women out of acknowledgment of their symmetry due to the fact that they care not for offspring to the same degree but they prefer them for the same reason some white men prefer Asians among other reasons.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 6:23 pm

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OnWithTheirHead wrote:

I am mostly a realist but a bit of an idealist. In terms of America most blacks are not going to be pureblooded negroes and the people we are talking about are likely not going to buy a trip to africa to buy some pureblooded negro for fun times, they are mostly going to be interested in a negroid american woman who may look attractive similar to the picture I posted and such.

Personally I don't care if some hardcore, ultimate negro black in africa feels insulted by my post, if they do so beit.
If some SJW whines about it so beit. Im not an expert on africa but if they do view their women as children that is kind of concerning because that implies africans have some kind pedophile tendencies.

It's not so much about insult as it is applying the proper standard of symmetry.

If we take into account offspring, then no mixed black woman, is more E-symmetrical than even the lowest white.

They aren't even symmetrical in relation to their own race and environment, their splintered past and genes typically also result in mental & psychological dysfunction.

Black men don't prefer white women out of acknowledgment of their symmetry due to the fact that they care not for offspring to the same degree but they prefer them for the same reason some white men prefer Asians among other reasons.

I don't know what E-symmetry is.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 8:32 pm

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I don't know what E-symmetry is.
European Symmetry.

Sub Saharan Africans also have their own form of "symmetry" that dominates in that environment.

Mutts like American Blacks and Latinos fall mostly fall short of the symmetry of the branches they were bred from but they seem to both be shifting over time to their more "primal" racial means, with very few of them(moreso those of latin decent) shifting to the "noble" mean.

Being a mutt myself, I do find myself being sexually attracted to my "minority ancestry" from time to time, and yet all of the "relationships" I've had through my life have been from white women. Even the women who share the same ancestral proportions as me, I see everyday being with men of the primal mean, despite their asymmetry with regards to strength, courage, aesthetics, intelligence, etc.

At first I saw their regression as a betrayal, but they are simply remaining loyal to the tribe that existed before it was colonized.

The same pattern has occurred with regards to friendship, I do have many nonwhite acquaintances but most if not all my Friends have been European.


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 10:24 pm

Most minorities and non-whites chase after white women predominantly in order to 'advance' and 'progress' their genetic evolution. Cutting through all the bullshit, humanity knows the score. If you want to 'advance' then the best way is through the white woman's womb. Throughout my life, non-whites with white girlfriends or wives parade them around as a trophy to their minority-group friends and family. White women are a prize.

But even having a mixed-child, is no guarantee you're *in* the white group.

In order for a minority to be *in* the white group, you essentially are "white-washed".


I'm surprised there are so few topics about white-washing on this forum, even after so many years. Isn't it obvious that minorities and non-whites want to be 'included' and "tolerated" within the European paradigm?

To be properly white-washed, you would need to gain the trust of white-males. Something that probably will not happen, at the top rung of genetics. Because at the top of socio-cultural circles, racial purity is required. This is the 'royal' sector of humanity. Even Megan Merkle had to be white-washed to the point of being accepted into the English royal family.

(Is she totally accepted? Probably not, hence the family prefers Kate over her)
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyWed Jun 13, 2018 11:01 pm

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Most minorities and non-whites chase after white women predominantly in order to 'advance' and 'progress' their genetic evolution.  Cutting through all the bullshit, humanity knows the score.  If you want to 'advance' then the best way is through the white woman's womb.  Throughout my life, non-whites with white girlfriends or wives parade them around as a trophy to their minority-group friends and family.  White women are a prize.

With regards to the Species Human Symmetry, yes, white women are the ideal balance, but I would still say that most of the non-white men who appreciate this symmetry, tend to already have a significant amount of white admixture, those who don't usually don't develop a lasting relationship and are more a result of a more blind r-type strategy which will "fuck anything that moves".

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But even having a mixed-child, is no guarantee you're *in* the white group.

In order for a minority to be *in* the white group, you essentially are "white-washed".

Of course, the past is not erased or forgotten that easily, but with regards to social interaction and mate selection(from women) it becomes clear who is "white" and who isn't. A man who has no friends/mates from a tribe despite being born and raised in such a tribe, is not part of that tribe.

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I'm surprised there are so few topics about white-washing on this forum, even after so many years.  Isn't it obvious that minorities and non-whites want to be 'included' and "tolerated" within the European paradigm?

Most mutts express this desire by becoming shitlibs, and conveniently serve their non-white ancestry through politics and their own by mating with whites.

Few mutts become libertarian/conservatives and act effectively the same as the shitlibs.

The rare few are willing to go all the way, and desire to aim higher to return themselves back to becoming whole once more.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptyThu Jun 14, 2018 6:00 am

White has a particular connotation, as it represents the point where human perception ends - the furthest edge of his perceptual-event-horizon, and black is surpassing, going over this edge.
White is the sum of all colours the human can perceive....the brain interpreting it as a brilliance within which it cannot differentiate.
Black is the absence of colour, the mind interpreting the inability to process or the chaos as darkness, blackness.

So white is about light, and black about darkness.
Light is always more attractive to a diurnal species, and dark will be associated with the mysterious, the unknown, the uncertain.
White reveals, dark conceals...and so light skin exposes wrinkles but also smoothness. Light skin cannot conceal blemishes or scars. It is revealing.

Light skin also indicates a life in the shade, not labouring under the sun, so it hints at wealth, at nobility, at access to resources.
Light hair and skin also indicates youth.
White reflects light...black absorbs it.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySun Jun 17, 2018 12:45 am

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Of course, the past is not erased or forgotten that easily, but with regards to social interaction and mate selection(from women) it becomes clear who is "white" and who isn't. A man who has no friends/mates from a tribe despite being born and raised in such a tribe, is not part of that tribe.
That's the crux of modern politicking isn't it?

Do people feel affiliated to those of their same genetic tribe, while ideologically opposed? Or do people feel affiliated to those who are ideologically similar, although genetically opposed?

I believe that Genes trump Memes. In times of austerity, panic, emergency, war, and all other matters of importance, it is instinct and reflex that people immediately congregate and locate those of genetic similarity, rather than ideological similarity. Ideology, memes, are superficial, temporary, hedonistic. The modern-day shit-lib pushes "feel good" ideology. It's based on nothing concrete. No permanence.

So if times became austere, mixed-race progeny would be outcast to themselves, isolated by those who are racially pure. Blacks and other "disenfranchised" groups would be more complacent to take them in, versus the elitist groups, who actively keep them out.

It's a one-way direction. It's easy to 'black' yourself. It's easy to have sex with a black female. It is NOT easy to have sex with white females.


This is also reflected in rape statistics, where white women are the ones raped, but white men don't rape black women (statistically).
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySun Jun 17, 2018 4:07 am

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I believe that Genes trump Memes.  In times of austerity, panic, emergency, war, and all other matters of importance, it is instinct and reflex that people immediately congregate and locate those of genetic similarity, rather than ideological similarity.  Ideology, memes, are superficial, temporary, hedonistic.  The modern-day shit-lib pushes "feel good" ideology.  It's based on nothing concrete.  No permanence.

Genes do trump memes, but certain memes arise from particular genes, and the acknowledgement, acceptance, and practice of these memes requires a particular degree of genetic similarity. To say that non-whites today have failed to become "American" is to assume that American whites were ever fully American themselves, at least to the degree that Jews have been.

The ideals of old, had such high standards that they effectively filtered out all of the incompatible genetic garbage, and left only those who had something to offer and would quickly be assimilated into the gene pool. This contributes to gene flow and prevented stagnation among a population and acts as the "random/chaos" element in the order of a race while still maximizing the order kept.

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So if times became austere, mixed-race progeny would be outcast to themselves, isolated by those who are racially pure.  Blacks and other "disenfranchised" groups would be more complacent to take them in, versus the elitist groups, who actively keep them out.

Its a matter of the progeny's attitude, a wise elite will always appreciate a life affirming attitude.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySun Jun 17, 2018 11:02 am

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I don't know what E-symmetry is.
European Symmetry.

Sub Saharan Africans also have their own form of "symmetry" that dominates in that environment.

Mutts like American Blacks and Latinos fall mostly fall short of the symmetry of the branches they were bred from but they seem to both be shifting over time to their more "primal" racial means, with very few of them(moreso those of latin decent) shifting to the "noble" mean.


At first I saw their regression as a betrayal, but they are simply remaining loyal to the tribe that existed before it was colonized.

The same pattern has occurred with regards to friendship, I do have many nonwhite acquaintances but most if not all my Friends have been European.

By symmetry do you mean symmetry to their genes and environment, memes synergizing with genes?
Yes this is why blacks love shoes. Because the ancient blacks ran and chased their prey. the saggy pants a weak attempt at returning to their primal roots of only showing their underwear. It's "half-assed".

The mutt has mostly asymettry, which can create a kind of power.

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european males are usually nice and good friends. Blacks tend to be mean and overly competitive. For instance I had a black cousin who was my best friend, but then we went on vacation with me and was embarassed to be with me and made fun of me behind my back, why, not because of anything I did, but because I wasn't as black as him and I was nerdy, and my existence interfered with his stupid black ghetto gangster fantasy persona. Blacks tend to hate or make fun of anyone who is light colored and they remind me of the brutal dragons of my little pony, just overly masculine and too competitive at all times. Finally my cousin "ghosted me" like some dumb feminist cunt despite his obsession with donald trump. Like some typical dumb feminist cunt to ghost without any explanation given, except for the fact he was my own cousin so typical. What ghosting means is being a cunt who refuses to pick up phone calls or respond to texts.

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Being a mutt myself, I do find myself being sexually attracted to my "minority ancestry" from time to time, and yet all of the "relationships" I've had through my life have been from white women. Even the women who share the same ancestral proportions as me, I see everyday being with men of the primal mean, despite their asymmetry with regards to strength, courage, aesthetics, intelligence, etc.
So I am not alone after all.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism EmptySun Jun 17, 2018 11:07 am

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I believe that Genes trump Memes.  In times of austerity, panic, emergency, war, and all other matters of importance, it is instinct and reflex that people immediately congregate and locate those of genetic similarity, rather than ideological similarity.  Ideology, memes, are superficial, temporary, hedonistic.  The modern-day shit-lib pushes "feel good" ideology.  It's based on nothing concrete.  No permanence.

So if times became austere, mixed-race progeny would be outcast to themselves, isolated by those who are racially pure.  Blacks and other "disenfranchised" groups would be more complacent to take them in, versus the elitist groups, who actively keep them out.

It's a one-way direction.  It's easy to 'black' yourself.  It's easy to have sex with a black female.  It is NOT easy to have sex with white females.


This is also reflected in rape statistics, where white women are the ones raped, but white men don't rape black women (statistically).

True this occurs on a primal level. On a primal level people want to associate with people who look the same as themselves. I don't think that it is racist its just a general gut vibe. Since most interracials look different from each other they are mostly outlaws since they don't even have their own race to cling to. If the apocalpyse happened interracials would live among black societies in order to have power over the blacks and take advantage of black stupidity. Then they would go on vacation with whites and make deals with whites then go back to their black homes to make insane profits.

black women dont get raped by whites usually because of cultural attitudes. Rape is about power and control and hatred. White men are not envious of black women, they are envious of white women because they feel that white women think they are in power and superior. They feel subjugated and inferior to white women so they rape them to rekindle their freedom and masculinity.

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Most minorities and non-whites chase after white women predominantly in order to 'advance' and 'progress' their genetic evolution.  Cutting through all the bullshit, humanity knows the score.  If you want to 'advance' then the best way is through the white woman's womb.  Throughout my life, non-whites with white girlfriends or wives parade them around as a trophy to their minority-group friends and family.  White women are a prize.

But even having a mixed-child, is no guarantee you're *in* the white group.

In order for a minority to be *in* the white group, you essentially are "white-washed".


I'm surprised there are so few topics about white-washing on this forum, even after so many years.  Isn't it obvious that minorities and non-whites want to be 'included' and "tolerated" within the European paradigm?

To be properly white-washed, you would need to gain the trust of white-males.  Something that probably will not happen, at the top rung of genetics.  Because at the top of socio-cultural circles, racial purity is required.  This is the 'royal' sector of humanity.  Even Megan Merkle had to be white-washed to the point of being accepted into the English royal family.

(Is she totally accepted?  Probably not, hence the family prefers Kate over her)
modern royalty is the lowest rung of society. They are inbred with stagnant genes. the ruling class is ignoble, did you know in britain they jail people for having freedom of speech? And guns are banned in the uk.

the neanderthals went extinct because they were inbred.

now my hypothesis is that white mental genes are dominant mostly, that is why Obama acts more like a white than a black, even though he physically looks black.

obama rose to the top despite being mixed race, i also sort of rose to the top because i used to go to an elitist school of rich white kids, and a bunch of white girls wanted to date me. However i was raised a christian cuck who hated my sex drive so i lost my chance. Mostly my ruination was due to feminism and christianity.

from what i see whites are more tolerant than blacks. White supremacists fear some sort of mixed-race future but i do not believe it will happen. What i see more likely is an all-black future where the black advance pushes the white race out of america and they migrate to frozen european countries. I see hot black girls all the time always dating raggedy degenerate looking black ghetto men. It makes me rage because these black girls wont give me the time of day but they will some pathetic raggedy black man. I think all these women care about is penis size. Its the shallow animal generation. i feel more comfortable around whites than blacks. Mostly i think its about intelligence and nothing else.

for instance Autsider is a white supremacist but he hates being around people including his own race. i think it boils down to intelligence, people want someone who is fun to be around and someone to relate to. that is what people want. and most blacks i cannot relate to mainly because i dont like their taste in music and they are boring to talk to. but yes most people date their own race due to animal biology. as far as which is easier im not sure. Because the other day i saw a tall Aryan white female dating a black man, made me rage because in this land of equality bullshit, it seems only blacks benefit and interracials get hosed. Thus i think it would be easier to get laid with a white female because white females care more about personality and black females seem to expect a certain penis size of 10 inches which i do not have and most whites do not have either. but id say its 50/50, depends on the person really.

ironically it is mostly the liberals who ghost, despite claiming to be un-racist anti-racists yet somehow i am always an interracial being ghosted by a bunch of white liberals, funny how that works out actually.
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It appears this woman influenced nearly everything he did, but a poet relies heavily on his muse, and what is not always evident is that all the while he withholds himself.

The 'sensuality' for want of a better word of his verse, seems melodramatic to me.
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It's because you, in your heart of hearts, do not want to walk on his dreams, but to be put in them.
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It appears this woman influenced nearly everything he did, but a poet relies heavily on his muse, and what is not always evident is that all the while he withholds himself.

The 'sensuality' for want of a better word of his verse, seems melodramatic to me.

Perhaps Maud Gonne ignited him but it was his wife Georgie that managed to bring his poetry to life in more ways than one.

Part of me thinks Yeats was trying to save Gonne from herself, look at what became of her, her first child died, she left her second and third kids fatherless. After her separation from her husband, she went on to become a suffragette. Till the end when it was clear that Yeats' final proposal was made more for her sake than his, she refused. She was more devoted to God and state than to a talented man such as Yeats. Her statement about Poets not being married is revealing about how little she cares about Poetry in general, because Poetry cannot exist without Marriage in the first place.

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Quote :
Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,  
Enwrought with golden and silver light,  
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths  
Of night and light and the half light,  
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;  
I have spread my dreams under your feet;  
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

Even Yeats has 'conditions' to be adhered to in his poetry.

Poets are essentially selfish.  They need three things.
Someone to take care of them,
Someone to be their muse, the muse creates the artificial environment the poet needs and craves. and
most of all someone to be their audience.

What is not always evident is that all the while he withholds himself emotionally from a real romantic situation, he would rather 'dream' about it and that was probably the reason he relentlessly pursued this Maude Gonne, he knew she would never acquiesce to his proposals. They both knew they were not a good match for anything other than her role as his Muse.

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.........because Poetry cannot exist without Marriage in the first place.

Why do you say that, what do you mean poetry cannot exist without.......


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