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And, by "entertainment industry" we mean American industries, dishing out American propaganda, i.e., post-modern, Liberalism, meant to break down, or severely weaken, foreign patriarchies and traditional cultures - memes.
A different kind of war.
War like no Other.

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Americanism is only partly European. Calling it 'west' only conceals its Abrahamic essence.
Trump is the conservative faction's of America's Judeo-Protestant, elite that is more pragmatic and realizes America's century is over, and the coming one will not be kind to it.
A consolidation of power - isolationism - means that these conservatives are now preparing for America's decline from Super-power status to regional power.
The other, more naive, faction is represented by neo-cons (Troskyites), Hollywood, pop-fArt, Democrat Liberals still committed to what worked during the Cold War - their Messianic mission to save mankind, from itself, or destroy it; Biden is its current icon; a figurehead of true power, just as Trump is.

The conflict is passionate and bloody - Epstein etc. - as are all matters of survival.
Who wins and who loses will determine the course of American policy in the coming century; how the U.S, copes with an ascending China, and Russia, and India.
Cold War methods will not work, the cuckservative/Republican Trump branch rightfully concludes, but the more naive, idealistic, spiritual, Democrat, liberals, Marxists, post-modern nihilists, will not accept this judgment. In their mind what worked against the Soviets will work against all enemies of America's Globalization plans.
Open borders, free markets... cultures, identity, sexuality reduced to product on the world markets - a monotheistic, monopoly that permeates the earth but does not overtly impose its will.
Like their one-god, absolutists entity...it is omnipresent and nowhere, because it is ingrained - brainwashed - in the hearts & minds of the believers - self-censoring, self-regulating, self-imprisoning, self-detaching.

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What will be interesting is what will happen to the economic dependency America has on China, that is now on the rocks, and the FEAR-19 is only pushing the tension of it to a breaking point. Trump has anti-China prejudices, but he is too dumb to understand why or that American government became neo-communist when China’s economy took off in the 2000s, Nixon instituting the ties needed to support it, and its communist insiders and figurehead installments began to be put in place in Washington, Obama being the main loyalist, himself a communist, and began to outsource all of its wealth and industry from China and seeding the future for the US to enter a third world status which its rapidly deteriorating into as we speak.

Trump is a buffoon who has “feelings” towards the corruption in his government, but he cant understand or identify it; when he says idiotic things like: “The W.H.O is kind of being “China-centric”, shows his own gullibility to who is in control of his administration and who his puppet-masters are.
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Don't know if he's a "buffoon" who doesn't know who controls the US., because of who his won daughter married and his policies despite the rhetoric, in regards to Israel.

He's an opportunist, which is what Marxists have become - the old days of die-hard ideologues fighting for the cause of world liberation from Capitalists are long gone - this is a post-modern neo-Marxist world order.

I know because of SYRIZA in Greece and the Podemos in Spain...same shit.
Marxism is now attracting opportunists who lie, pretend, play word-games, as long as it promotes their self-interests - zero integrity.
This is where Marxism and Capitalism merge: utilitarian morality. Hedonism.
Wikipedia wrote:
Jeremy Bentham, the founder of utilitarianism, described utility as "that property in any object, whereby it tends to produce benefit, advantage, pleasure, good, or happiness...[or] to prevent the happening of mischief, pain, evil, or unhappiness to the party whose interest is considered.

They gave up on the 'innate goodness of man' and will now manipulate their basic animal needs/desires to achieve their Global goals.
Trump has no principles or values, other than himself, his family and money as a means to an end.
He accidentally rose to power, as a method of promoting his Trump brand, and is now taking advantage of the opportunity selling a product to a market.

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We might say that Marxism has been Americanized.
Humanity is no longer the divine abstraction that had replaced God, but it is now the individual.
Neo-Marxism, Americanism, is post-modernity.
Evolution of a virus.

In Protestantism god could be carried in his mind, as a concept, and did not require a mediator, a church - this is directly linked to Judaism.
Christianity was overcome, and its corrupted pagan idols and connections to the experienced world.
Neo-Marxism now overcomes the collective of 'workers', since rebellion against natural order and exploitation and authorities can occur in the individual with no mediator.
Marxism is now a collective of individuals all interested in the same negation each for his own reasons.

This ideological split was already present in European communism, as a rejection of Soviet style nationalistic Marxism that followed the assassination of Trotsky - an anti-Stalin style Communism that promoted Troskyite perpetual revolution as an individual salvation/liberation from earthly authorities called capitalists; post-modern Neo-Marxism - rebellion of the mind, esoteric, against the body.
After the fall of the Soviets it gained in popularity because it offered new hope to millions of disillusioned 'desperate degenerates' (spiteful mutants).

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A capitalist society only protects against dysgenics when no one has any scruples about taking economic advantage of idiots - even "the disabled".
What person with pride in their time and work, would take pride in that? And in only ever living their life to make others a 'sucker'?

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U.S. elites in a fight over who will manage America's decline in this century and the next.
All are happy and unified when things are going well, but infighting breaks out when things begin to not go so well.

American unity was more a product of its wealth and power - within its decadent cauldron all melted in hedonism and hope.
But with no other common ground the multi-racial, multicultural, artifice has nothing but an ideal to keep it together - an ideal so vague, so abstract, that, like most nihilistic ideologies, must fall back on pretenses and lies.

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The internal conflict continues.

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U.S. propaganda industry is so monopolizing global data distribution that millions of people are convinced that the U.S. defeated Germany with a bit of help from her allies.
Movie after movie, media report after media report, world consciousnesses has been inundated by selective hyperbole.

It is now working to establish the delusion that Negroes were part of major historical events....like Africans present in Addresses army, or women were formidable warriors that were fundamental in the outcome of historical battles or scientific inventions, or, that Africans were not part of the slave trade and white slaves never happened....it was only the chosen victims.

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Perpetual war is part of the Democratic/Hollywood/Neo-con - Neo Trostkyite strategy - gets the Military-industrial complex up and running smoothly.

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The victor narrates the past to the present (masses) determining their future appreciations/evaluation.
In this case the U.S. was the late-to-come, to the battle, victor of WW II and then of the ensuing fight over the spoils, the Cold War....so it dominated the narratives through media, entertainment (Hollywood) and linguistic dialectics, shaping words and their associations (nihilism).
as it declines the world is awakening form its propaganda infused stupor, ; much of it remaining immune to decades of brainwashing either because they were protected by a political/cultural wall (Iron Curtain) or because they resided on the periphery of the Judeo-Puritan, Anglo-sphere, relatively immune due to linguistic contains - lost in translation - propaganda does not translate well from language to language.

The method is subtle, using time, pattern repetition, to infuse minds with a way of thinking and understanding data.
The data (facts0 are not in question but how they are interpreted, ho with are connected and to what degree is what manipulates what they mean, and how the audience understands them - understanding influenced by connecting it to "appropriate or inappropriate" (moral)emotional reactions.

I've offered my own understanding of nihilism and how it detached the mind from the body/physical world, the tangible, so as to exploit this detachment by replacing/substituting the referent (phenomenon) with a sensation (pleasure) or with another mind or collective mind (noumenon referring and deferring to noumena; words referring to more words - inter-subjective solipsism).
The process produces increasing dependence - collectives that cannot think or judge outside the premises of the collective, with or without an icon/idol representing its authority; its totalitarian wholeness).

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The U.S. was the first place where Europeans were forced to coexist without any distinct identity.
Although in Europe some coexistence was forced by necessity, there was always distinctiveness which was maintained.
War forced Europeans to make concessions, but in the American experience it was a product of choice - fleeing from European hierarchies and leaving behind the past so the the immigrants could reinvent themselves liberated from the past, and subsequently the past as the sum of all nurturing = nature.
The perfect place for Protestant puritanism and all nihilistic dogmas and ideologies to experiment and apply their dogmas in real-time.
We see how nihilism in the east - Buddhism - was necessitated by population pressures, but in the west the opening up of new frontiers were themselves a product of population explosions but also of unbound possibilities not present in the east.
Man can release his imagination from the constraints of reality and let his fantasies go wild.

In the U.S. the idea of individuality replacing humanity took root as an ideology - liberalism.
God was replaced by the collective, humanity, and then by the ideal individuality - a private reality supported and supporting other subjective private realities - inter-subjectivity.
Each mind was god in its own subjective reality and his delusion was reinforced and tolerated, as long as he did not threaten that of another - Constitutionally.
As long as the collective was not overly pressured by an external force it remained strong.

Fighting wars away form its borders became a way of not overly testing this 'strength' of inter-subjective individuation.
With nothing else to bind and maintain individuals together - no shared meme/culture, no gene/race - a sever test would risk total disintegration.
Hedonism and the 'right to live in your private world' became a shared ideology offering the masses 'salvation/liberty from its past/nature - each fleeing from it for his/her own reasons.



Dugin correctly criticizes American liberalism and associates ti with Globalization.
I've done as much.
He does so for his own Russian reasons.
He proposes a multi-polar alternative knowing that in such a world Russia has a distinct advantage over most other nation-states - the world being in the process of making nation stats obsolete; just as once city-states were replaced by nation-states, the coming century will replace the nation-state by emerging Super-States....some of which are already formed, e.g., China, India, U.S. and Russia trying to return to its Soviet past, but this time without Marxism.
That ideology belongs to China and the U.S., as inheritors of Cold War dynamics.
India has never veered away from traditionalism and Russia is returning to it - in some respect China's Capitalist/Communism is also ethnocentric - leaving the U.S, as the only post-modern construct, calling its own multiculturalism, multi-racialism, a 'melting pot', and gambling that miscegenation will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage.
This is why currently some of the U.S. elites have began to doubt this naive, ideological, presumption.

Decades of trying to proven that race and sex are social constructs has proven to be a failure - affirmative action, feminism, has failed to produce its ideal post-modern citizen. One faction insists that what is needed is more time or a better strategy of reaching parity, while the other has realized that it was all a mistake.
Trump is the one representing the latter, and this is why things are becoming ugly in U.S. politics.

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Either by conviction or by coercion ye shall be saved or ye shall be cast upon the fires of hell to burn for an eternity.

America's messianic mission.
All...or nothing.
Salvation = Liberty.
Liberalism is the spirit of the saviour - money - accepted into the hearts and minds of the 'true believers'.

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This is why even the enemies of Europe were cheering BREXIT, along with some alt-right Europeans who simply want to get rid of an infested, Americanized, European elite.
An elite that was placed there in a post-World War II Europe by American interests.
The same interests that were kicked out of Russia by Putin.

Chomsky never identifies who controls the United States...he refers to them using the usual Marxist moniker of 'capitalists', 'corporations', 'conglomerates' or 'interests'...Trump calls them the 'swamp'.
Proxies are always used by parasites as a cover.
American presidents, after Kennedy, were all willing front-men and nothing more.
Trump is an opportunist, who uses his presidency to promote the Trump brand-name. He doesn't give a shit about ideals and values.
He's a narcissist....and Bush was, and is, a moron - a failure who found his way to success by being dim witted.

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Dugin correctly criticizes American liberalism and associates ti with Globalization.
I've done as much.
He does so for his own Russian reasons.
He proposes a multi-polar alternative knowing that in such a world Russia has a distinct advantage over most other nation-states - the world being in the process of making nation stats obsolete; just as once city-states were replaced by nation-states, the coming century will replace the nation-state by emerging Super-States....some of which are already formed, e.g., China, India, U.S. and Russia trying to return to its Soviet past, but this time without Marxism.
That ideology belongs to China and the U.S., as inheritors of Cold War dynamics.
India has never veered away from traditionalism and Russia is returning to it - in some respect China's Capitalist/Communism is also ethnocentric - leaving the U.S, as the only post-modern construct, calling its own multiculturalism, multi-racialism, a 'melting pot', and gambling that miscegenation will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage.
This is why currently some of the U.S. elites have began to doubt this naive, ideological, presumption.

Decades of trying to proven that race and sex are social constructs has proven to be a failure - affirmative action, feminism, has failed to produce its ideal post-modern citizen. One faction insists that what is needed is more time or a better strategy of reaching parity, while the other has realized that it was all a mistake.
Trump is the one representing the latter, and this is why things are becoming ugly in U.S. politics.

I think its important to be wary with Dugin, because he does ascribe to aspects of liberalism and equality, and his “anti-liberalism”, is not a rejection of it, but only a revising of it to suit traditional ‘conservative’ roots, he expounds on that very clearly in his book. His thought processes are very radical. Attempting to revise 20th century modernist ideals, cohesively no less, into a working geopolitical model that is objectively attainable, is an undertaking not without some wild eccentricity.

It’s also important to note that some degree of the postmodern American disease has infected Russia, in the form of LGBTQ rights movements which have taken place there. Even though their government strongly repudiates it, thank the gods, it’s still a very troubling enemy lurking within their borders, but its a strong nation, so i trust they can purge it somehow.

What I like about Dugin is his brilliant understanding of the disease of postmodernism, and especially, his understanding of left/right politics and how they both play into each other’s philosophical systems.



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Of course the Mulatto will be the fall guy.
He's not part of the chosen few, behind the Presidency.
An end of the line to stop all further investigations and to satisfy the mediocre masses with a final answer - someone to blame.

Handlers, a.k.a. advisors....all working for the President.

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Democrats are the political branch of America's elite - including Hollywood industry, and neo-con Troskyites.
Their goal is to remain true to the Globalization messianic mission, by spreading Liberalism as the American way of life, undermining traditions and other cultures, destroying family structures and the role of the father, so as to manufacture lost, desperate, degenerates, looking for an alternative to fill in what has been lost.
They are selling hope to the hopeless, and preaching to the choir of billions who are born into a vicious and unfair life.
Their target audience are incels, sexual deviants, people from broken families, with no cultural upbringing no traditions; individuals who will see in money and liberty from past a way out of their inferior genetic inheritance.

On the other side we have the political branch of the same elites, the Republicans, or the more conservatives - members of the Military-industrial complex, wearing Abrahamic spirituality as their preferred nihilistic compensation. Those who are gradually becoming aware that the first faction, and the strategy of the Cold war, and Globalization, is really self-destructive, because its success necessitates its adoption by the entire world - just as it was for Marxism.
It undermines America faster than it undermines other traditions and nations.
American can no longer import brains to compensate for those it degenerates internally.
It's Liberalism is producing decadent, indifferent, un-invested free-radicals who are more interested in hedonism than anything else.
The masses of Latinos and Africans cannot compensate....because race is not a social construct - some Liberals are discovering this, as well; Conservatives never accepted that naive lie but they underestimated its importance.

Trump is of the second group, and Obama and now Biden of the first.
If Biden wins America will return to its neo-con, perpetual war, strategy, and its Hollywood undermining of all cultures and traditions that contradict Liberalism. This will only hasten America's decline and result in a more harsh outcome.
Trump will consolidate American power, and if someone like him is elected next, the process of American decline will be smooth and ordered - as a consequence world wide strife will increase as the vacuum left by America's isolationism will spark regional conflicts by regional powers that seize the opportunity to grow stronger.
Biden will begin a century of Cold war dynamics with China...only this time Russia and India will be on the other side, or will stay out of it.
We have to place Dugin within this Geopolitical dynamic.

China's rise is both a threat and an opportunity for Europeans to finally unload its parasitical baggage and emerge as what it was.
A challenge of overcoming regional conflicts and unite to deal with a larger threat.

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In the U.S. Marxism and Capitalism meet in post-modernity, nihilism and opportunism.
The only culture is the culture-of-no-culture; the only ideal is money and hedonism, the only principle is salvation renamed Liberty, from past/nature.
Absolute replacing the one-god of monotheism.
Messianism is about preserving one's own salvation, in an indifferent world; cynicism is how one copes with it; narcissism is how one compensates.

The power of the nil underlies it all - especially positive nihilism, promising great gifts and powers to the multiplying desperate and degenerates, a.k.a. spiteful mutants.
The meek shall inherit the earth.

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Of course the Mulatto will be the fall guy.
He's not part of the chosen few, behind the Presidency.
An end of the line to stop all further investigations and to satisfy the mediocre masses with a final answer - someone to blame.

Handlers, a.k.a. advisors....all working for the President.

Precisely, the clown show continues




I am suspicious of anything I take joy in, the same those idiots say 'be suspicious of anything you hate, as it may be you projecting yourself too much' - it applies "oppositely"; but the idiots would never entertain that

A bunch of cuckservatives will rally with the visceral feeling of impunity - uncritiquable celebration of 'patriotism' as a 'victory'. They'll viscerally understand those more right-wing than them will have racial interests (and so will find their 'buzz killing' to be 'stupid even by "racist" standards'). Those left of them they'll just call 'crazy, idiotic' or 'sore losers' - or some will venture to calling them 'evil' but feel 'accomplished' with such a victory, if it is even given at all (doubtful).
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This shows how advanced the American decline is.


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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 10 EmptyMon 25 May 2020 - 16:07



This is a symptom of the alt-right as well. Equality is the standard for which they make value-judgements. The nigger is the standard for which those judgments are measured and directly impact the multicultural world they defend. The Jew is the unseen emperor on top of the victim hierarchy; the one who has dominated the very depths of the spirit with shame and guilt, guiding the future of European civilization. The nigger represents one of the main nodal points in the system who enforces the agenda of the supreme victim at the top.


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They always blame the media. Someone is always to blame. A corporation, a politician, a group. Its part of the victim psychology. Scapgoating, blaming, shaming etc. But never accounting for ones own actions. Never that. Never acknowledging the deeper sickness which drives this pattern; nihilism.

A land of no culture, no people, no racial identity, can only produce factionism and chaos. No community or 'volk' means only fragmented self-hating isolated groups, banding together to find some enemy to avenge thier purposeless meaningless lives on. Enemies that are given to them by the state of course. It is why these forms of self-destructive social strife occur only in this fucked up country where the closest thing to an identity is a product brand name.





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PostSubject: Re: Americanism Americanism - Page 10 EmptyFri 29 May 2020 - 23:01

I get tired of the whole "were all fighting against nihilism together" take, he even admitted it himself that police hold back from proper law enforcement on Blacks. He talks about them as if they cared about anything but using this event as an excuse to express themselves honestly without repercussions. The same people whose FARTs have been and continue to be imprinted in the minds of the very population they bitch about.

It is only whites who continue to project themselves onto them, wanting to do whats best for them as if they would ever reciprocate or appreciate this sentiment, instead of simply becoming more dependent as a result. The more they are catered to, the harder the inevitable separation will have to be.


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