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PostSubject: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 1:29 pm

Step one is to find that which is the best things to strive for.
The moral imperative.

Next step is to sacrifice our time, energy and strength,
in pursuit of the highest goals, reasons and ideas.

The best morals are not the default morals.
Default morals are in need of repair.

There is a kind of sacrifice every time something is given priority.

I may be wrong but i assumed part of Aristotlean philosophy
had a lot to do with measuring, comparing, and hierarchies.
Like trying to find what things are most valuable
and what things are least valuable.
What is most true?
What is least true?

This kind of thinking can be applied to anything.

I've tried to sacrifice TV for my values.
And a lot of other things too.
I'm in some kind of resting phase where I do less.
Once Corona is over ill be able to serve more guests.
That is high on my values list.
Friends.

I'm sure this is quite basic and everyone knows it.
Still thought I'd post it anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 1:57 pm

Dan~~ wrote:
Step one is to find that which is the best things to strive for.
The moral imperative.
The ideal that becomes the standard and objective that identifies and distinguishes the individual.

Here we must take care to establish a realistic goal, not an imagined unattainable goal that cannot be validated by the consequences of attaining it.
Herein lies a trap many desperate degenerates fall for or intentionally create.  

Dan~~ wrote:
Next step is to sacrifice our time, energy and strength,
in pursuit of the highest goals, reasons and ideas.
Always in reference to the goal itself.

Dan~~ wrote:
The best morals are not the default morals.
Default morals are in need of repair.
Don't know what you consider "default morals".
I suspect the Judeo-Christian ones.

For me morals are divided in two, corresponding to genes/memes.
Morals that evolve to facilitate cooperate survival and reproductive strategies - usually displayed behaviourally in social organisms and those adopting heterosexual reproduction, and those man creates either in harmony of the first or in antithesis to them - Moses and his Ten Commandments are an example of manmade ethical codes attempting to adapt genetic behaviours to socioeconomic cultural environments - Theocracy where 'god' represents an abstraction of the people or of their ideal man.

Dan~~ wrote:
There is a kind of sacrifice every time something is given priority.
Every goal necessitates a risk and a sacrifice.

Dan~~ wrote:
I may be wrong but i assumed part of Aristotlean philosophy
had a lot to do with measuring, comparing, and hierarchies.
Like trying to find what things are most valuable
and what things are least valuable.
What is most true?
What is least true?
In the Greek sense of the term "truth" is aletheia, an uncovering, revealing of what has been concealed.

Value can only have meaning in relation to an objective. There is no intrinsic value....unless there is a subject an object and a movement towards and away.
Value is the triangulation, relative to the subjective agency and the distance and cost of attaining the objective - the distance, effort, required.
An unattainable objective is valueless, because it is non-existent.

Dan~~ wrote:
]I've tried to sacrifice TV for my values.
And a lot of other things too.
I'm in some kind of resting phase where I do less.
Once Corona is over ill be able to serve more guests.
That is high on my values list.
Friends.

I'm sure this is quite basic and everyone knows it.
Still thought I'd post it anyway.
The self-evident is what requires repetition, and affirmation, in times of madness...like the one we are entering in.

Orwell, George wrote:
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.

In times of madness, crazies roam the streets, like Zombies infecting all with their insanity. What was once self-evident and common sense, becomes increasingly uncommon, as sense deteriorates into superstitions and despair.

Need/suffering is how existence is experienced.
"No pain no gain" implies the experience of stress when a difficult task is attempted.

I told you about the path-of-least-resistance, which governs all interactions, but when it comes to life the path-of-more-resistance become a way of outperforming competitors.
Now power is revealed as a measure of the degree of resistance being overcome.
First in one's self.

Despite what they've told you the "Übermensch" is not someone who dominates others but it is the one who has overcome the resentment of being temporal, and ephemeral - that which makes us possible is also what condemns us to being mortal - to the degree that this can be overcome determines the power exuded, attracting those who do not know what it is or why it is so attractive.
Indifference measures power. We become indifferent towards what we have overcome or what we can easily attain.
Women are attracted to it in males.
Indifference cannot be absolute, neither can power. Like everything we are speaking of degrees and comparisons.
What can we overpower, what offers minimal resistance?
That which is less powerful....
We become indifferent to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 2:03 pm

Seems true again. Thanks for posting on my thread so fast.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 4:37 pm

So, Dan, why don't you tell me what happened and you began posting on ILP, like you never have before, and you came here, like you never did before.
An epiphany, a break, some kind of event.

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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 4:45 pm

Satyr wrote:
So, Dan, why don't you tell me what happened and you began posting on ILP, like you never have before, and you came here, like you never did before.
An epiphany, a break, some kind of event.

I started posting at ILP over 10 years ago i believe.
I wanted to get into philosophy.
It was part of my transition out of strict Jehovah's Witness doctrine.
They have produced so many magazines, that they feel
they have all the answers. They teach the bible
has every answer you need in it.

Me joining KTS was kindof random i guess.
I was reading some of your posts,
and I was surprised.
So I wondered over the possibility of us talking through the forums.

You've produced a lot of forum-literature.
I can't read all of it but i will read some.
Hopefully this is good news to you,
that i want to read your writings.

I was also hoping the members of KTS would talk to me.
I like this luxury of communication.
I consider my life kingly.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 5:06 pm

Dan~~ wrote:

I started posting at ILP over 10 years ago i believe.
I wanted to get into philosophy.
It was part of my transition out of strict Jehovah's Witness doctrine.
They have produced so many magazines, that they feel
they have all the answers. They teach the bible
has every answer you need in it.
Yes, but you've never posted so much at one time.


Dan~~ wrote:
Me joining KTS was kindof random i guess.
I was reading some of your posts,
and I was surprised.
Was it anything in particular that made you overcome your inhibitions and register and then post?
It contradicts your behaviour.

Dan~~ wrote:
So I wondered over the possibility of us talking through the forums.
Yes...I can clarify anything you have trouble with.

Dan~~ wrote:
You've produced a lot of forum-literature.
I can't read all of it but i will read some.
Most of it is hidden in a section of this forum you cannot access.
I'm thinking of rearranging everything.

Dan~~ wrote:
Hopefully this is good news to you,
that i want to read your writings.
It's always flattering when some shows interest in your opinions, but it isn't something new to me.
Still, I appreciate it.

Dan~~ wrote:
I was also hoping the members of KTS would talk to me.
I like this luxury of communication.
I consider my life kingly.
Don't know if the others will be interested....some visit but don't want to post.
Maybe one or two will change their minds after this.

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PostSubject: Re: Imperative Sacrifice Imperative Sacrifice EmptyFri Nov 27, 2020 5:13 pm

It contradicts your behaviour.

I just decided to post more.
Maybe later some day I will take another break.
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