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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 7 EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 7:04 pm

Furthermore, in an absolutely ordered, i.e., determined world, why would there not be uniformity in thought?
Why disagreement? What's the point?
A disagreement, conflict, determined as is the outcome...
A vast theater of the absurd.

All of it founded on intentionally or unintentionally understanding and applying words. Words/symbols that represent concepts in the mind, i.e., abstractions, formed through an organism's interactions with the world, i.e., other.
Nihilists do not want to escape these linguistic errors, these comforting traps, these confusing paradoxes, and they don't have to because they are protected from the severity of their mistakes....and so all of them are collectivists.
A collective, equally distributing resources and responsibility, is fundamental to their persistence.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 7 EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 4:00 pm

This is, fuckin' hilarious.
Notice the performance of this imbecile form ILP.
imbecile wrote:
Let's bring this down to Earth. John is a Pagan and, given his own personal experiences on the path with nature and his own God/Goddess, he comes to believe that abortion is immoral and that he should do everything in his power to bring an end to it. Jane is a Pagan and, given her own personal experiences on the path with nature and her own God/Goddess, she comes to believe that abortion is moral and that she should do everything in her power to protect a woman's right to choose abortion.

The first thing to note - note to the audience - is what this turd means by "bridging it down to earth"...which I've already posted on a year ago.
It means a gossipy, soap opera "context" - context means such a scenario, so when you read this imbecile post the term know that this is what it means - a scenario/context because its limited mind cannot grasp abstractions. It must be made as simple as possible....otherwise its another "objectivist". Whatever threatens or hurts this git is an "objectivist".
We must learn the lingo of these primates:
"Objectivist" = whatever threatens it - whether it be because it contradicts its collectivized utopia, or because it is over its head - either way it is made to feel threatened and so the accusation "objectivist" is a defensive response, similar to a spineless, slithering, cesspool creature releasing ink-clouds to conceal its retreat.
"Context" = simplified scenario describing individuals in a dilemma, a circumstance - like a scene; "down to earth" and not "up in the clouds" = not abstract and general, but particular, personal.
We now know he did not understand dasein and this is why he repeats "my understanding of dasein"....knowing that he has no clue what Heidegger was going on about.
In this idiot's mind Dasein means an individual thrown into existence as a blank slate... out of nowhere and nothing...Christian.
With no god there is no "image" to copy - as in "god's image" - so men are born as tabula rasa and then programmed by culture. A premise it cannot let go of. This is how this particular imbecile understood dasein - because it's all subjective, right? It may intuitively know this may not be what Heidegger meant but it doesn't matter to it because the other must now accept its version before it begins being pulled into its flytrap. It's like bait for little kids.

That aside, let's proceed to its revealing example. Abortion, is the theme, of course. It lives in Abrahamic premises.
Other people, me included, were born into Christian and Marxist households and did not remain there...but this twit did....until Godot comes to claim his degenerate soul. People often grow out of their upbringing as they come in contact with the world, either directly ro through books, but not this nit-wit...he is an American and when he reads he cannot comprehend, because philosophy books are not written with contexts/scenarios describing a Jane and a Jack with a moral dilemma.
Notice how it describes two pagans, one that thinks abortion is "moral" and the other that thinks it is "immoral".
This moron has no clue what paganism is, so he paints a scenario where one is a fundamentalist Christian and the other an atheist Liberal, straight out of his Americanized mind. All he knows is Christianity and Marxism because he can only learn from "down to earth" scenarios and not from books that describe abstractions that apply to all scenarios, across time and cultures.

Killing is the underlying "problem". Abortion is infanticide. A killing of the worse kind.
Is killing good or evil for a pagan? Given that killing is pervasive and necessary for survival one would expect a different approach, but not for this universalist degenerate. It has to be universal or nothing at all. It must fall within its Abrahamic moral understanding.
Morality must be universal, divine in origin, or non existent....there is no other option. Free-will must be total, absolute, god-like or it must be an illusion, and all are slaves...
The possibility that it would be neither never crosses this tiny mind...because it can only think in either/or simplicity: good versus evil. Guess which option it considers "evil".

Remarkably this imbecile is convinced that it offers some kind of intellectual "challenge" to the forces of "evil"....but this is common among simpletons, especially of the narcissist variance which is becoming a norm, right Wendy?
It's a side-effect of Americanism...a belief that every opinion is worth considering and just as good as any other.

How do you even begin to discuss anything with such below 80 IQ minds?
Some, average minds, quickly become frustrated and stop engaging them after a week a month a year or two...leaving them convinced that they are threatening and landing rational blows causing others to flee; the smarter ones cut their losses early on.
It doesn't matter how these turds rationalize this flight...it beats wasting weeks, months, years, trying to talk about social etiquette with a chimpanzee.
Wasted time and effort.
From a position of the uninvolved it is damn entertaining.
Thank the gods for ILP. A wonderful microcosm.

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At this point I am using iamidiot as a gauge to evaluate ILP member's IQ and EQ.
The longer it takes for them to cut and run, the lower they score.

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That fag is still using the same rhetorical lines of abortion and "political economy"...etc. After all these years. There is no doubt there is a part of his brain that never developed in his upbringing, you know, "being born in the belly of....."

He can't have absolute objectivity and so what better reason for absolute subjectivity and living in your head and dismissing everything else as "intellectual contraptions"? Reality is only an objectivist deception, that must be rejected. Hopefully poor Maia will save herself from this zombie.
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We'll see.
Many have been sucked into its taunting style.
Then it plays the helpless victim trapped in a cognitive trap...of its own making. Waiting to pull the other in with it, before it dies.
Triggering feminine motherly instincts.

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Those who demand ‘proof’ for everything, cannot think, do philosophy, explore or even have experiences.
No different than any other mentally disabled undesirable; doomed to live their lives at the mercy of events and exploitation by others. But, they will believe they had a great part in it no doubt, so they do have faith in something.

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The stupid sack of shit thinks the only reason not to have an abortion is because a woman has been raised to think it's immoral.
There is no other biological, emotional, innate factor. It's all political, moral; all about power to impose beliefs.
By the same reasoning, the only reason not to patricide or patricide is because we've been raised to consider it immoral.

The only reason we don't kill others is because we've been raised to consider it immoral.
The only reason not to have sex with our own children, or with any child, is because of how we were raised.
The only reason we don't torture and maim others is our upbringing.
The only reason not to have sex with animals or cadavers is because we think it is immoral, and we think so because of how we were raised.
Because in a godless nature anything goes.
Yet, no animal has ever fallen to the levels of human depravity.

Everything is reduced to morality, and then morality is made into a social construct.
The goal is depravity. Desperation. Degeneracy.
The necessary ingredients for capitulation or as the sack of shit calls it "compromises".

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 7 EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 7:33 am

The communists could not figure out why the masses did not rise up against their Capitalism overlords.
They concluded that they hadn't fallen to the levels of desperation that would spark a revolution.
But this failed to produce their desired revolution. They began losing respect for the masses - or whatever respect was left.
They realized they would have to become proactive. So they began promoting depravity among the masses...and still are.
They didn't give a shit about the masses, all they craved was the power they would gain when they took over control of the manimals.

Then postmodernism realized that emotional, psychological depravity could be attained in a different way.
We are in the process of this experiment.
Will psychological, emotional, depravity spark a revolution?
Homosexuality, transsexuality, bestiality, paedophilia...and who knows what else will be required before there's an uprising.
Make no mistake...what will follow will be a far greater authoritarianism.
Depravity is just a means of destroying a world order so that it can be replaced by a harsher totalitarianism with its own stringent moral codes.
All morality must be understood as social codes of conduct.

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This helps us understand the American mind, raised and reared on white lies, platitudes, and romantic bullshit. An identity built on illusions, means a life of disappointment. This is what Fight Club was all about, shattering this artificial identity, but to what avail? Only the whole death of the individual psychology can come from this, because there is no ‘real’ identity which lies beneath to emerge, no ‘Phoenix’ to rise, no freedom to be had. Only a dependence on alternative forms of lies, to rebuild their identity, relying on the same comforting and pleasing ideas. No cultivation of any identity ever occurred, and if the soil is not tilled and fertilized, then nothing can grow from it; a barren desolate self.

I.e. Tyler Durden asking his two mindless minions “What do you wish to do before you die?” “Paint a self-portrait” says one and “Build a house” says the other with no affect. What time, commitment, skills, talent, or inspirational vision do the idiots have to actually accomplish such creative endeavors? It’s just more lies, another illusory romantic identity centered around the protection of their egos and giving them a false sense of empowerment, and so more disappointment will be the inevitable result again. There is no desire to accomplish anything of real value, only to follow a pied piper of romantic bullshit, unwilling to accept any form of limitation. No balance, no discipline, no acceptance of weakness. It’s only a blind devotion to total strength, total freedom, total power, power for power’s sake, will for will’s sake, an intolerance for anything which would mean the relegation of their expectations or ego. Inferior minds, trapped in extremes, and so it is either total destruction or total perfection.



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The American dream was inflated by Hollywood, by Americanism, into a romantic fantasy, a unattainable ideal.

I say, the ideal, oneself, and the effort required to attain it are all to be evaluated.
Over-estimaitng self- the objective and udner-estimating the effort required all participate in disillusionment.
The ideal - objective - contradicting the lived world.
Ppositive-Nihilism.

If the individual suffers multiple devastating disappointments it usually settles for pure nihilism.
All now is meaningless, irrational, inevitable, all is nothing.

See ILP for those who have become disillusioned with the ideologies of Abrahamism and Marxism.
They declare all ideals void of substance; all human fantasies.
They don't find fault in themselves and the ideologies that they were seduced by, but must make it universal. The other is at fault; all ideals are empty and void.

Over-estimation leads to the defensiveness of universal under-estimation - all or nothing.

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Nihilists are like flies and mosquitos. They can only survive by feeding off of the life force of others, they can only thrive in creation by undermining what creates.
The smallness of them, prevents them from competing or overcoming any other being, so their only prospects lay in the strength of their numbers, and the ardent persistence of their bites and stings.
Their greatest hope is that one day they will inflict enough small injuries to at last take down that which symbolizes everything they cannot have, power, strength, purpose, meaning, freedom. Parasites of identity. Pestilence of envy. Vermin.


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Hygienic regiments are necessary to keep vermin away - physical and mental cleanliness.
A single mosquito may slip through the cracks and annoy you for a night or two....but, at least, you can keep the swarm outside your home, with their thousands little blood-sucking need to feed on what is superior.

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My new IQ & EQ test for ILP members:
IQ = the amount of days, weeks, months, years it takes any one of them to realize what iamaretard is; EQ = amount of time they can ignore its feminine taunts and undermining motives and methods.

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This is A War Like No Other.
A war against reality itself.
One method, exhibited on ILP, is an attempt to undermine our awareness and understanding of reality to convert everything into an ideology.
An ideology we adopt because we like it or we were raised to believe it.
This is what nit-wits are currently doing....undermine, like women, like Afro-Asiatics of a particular tribe.

The strategy is about making people lose confidence in their own judgments and perceptions, so as to then promote their own collectivist ideology.
For these imbeciles it isn't about philosophy but politics. They use philosophy as a cover, a pretence, to promote their political ideologies because they have no rational way top promote it because it is entirely emotional.
By undermining empiricism, sensual awareness, they want to reduce everything to an ideology. then they can compete - they believe - and may gain an advantage because of their emotional appeal.
This is why everything must become "subjective" and "objectivity" must be connected to negative emotions. They want to seduce the feminine the infantile in all - they want to exploit romantic idealism, which can be found across the entire spiritual and political spectrum.
It is a war against reasoning....Hellenism, the very foundations of western civilizations.

Adopting a Socratic method and a Semitic morality, they chisel away at human anxieties, bribing the adversary with promises of a "better world" - straight out of the Bible and Marxism.
The "logic" is Biblical
We are certain about nothing, therefore anything is possible, ergo why not settle for what makes us feel good?
Omniscience is unattainable, ergo we are all equally ignorant, so why not settle for a mutually beneficial compromise?

Feminized "reasoning".
Romanticism.
The most naive form of idealism.


"Let's agree to disagree." = symptom of this mental virus: postmodernism.
"Everyone has their subjective perception of reality" = symptom of this mental virus: postmodernism.

The human anxiety to not be excluded becomes the ideology that nobody ought to be excluded, and, of course, most everyone will adopt it for self-serving reasons. They will not even doubt it because this necessitates objective reasoning and few are able to think in this way.

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An example, because simpletons needs this to be "brought down to earth" - code for dumb it down so that even they can understand it.

Genes evolve to discriminate, to perceive differences....

Memes determine how to react, what to do about these differences:
Should we annihilate difference; should we assimilate and create uniformity; should we abuse and enslave it; should exclude or include it; should we pretend it isn't really a difference but an illusion?

Now, the postmodern imbeciles propose the last...that we ought to pretend it doesn't exist, and that we've evolved to perceive differences for no reason at all, or to test our altruistic spirits, or because we've been indoctrinated to perceive differences by a culture dominated by an ideology.
Of course they cannot rationally justify such an absurdity so they must use different methods to undermine confidence in our own perceptions; to hypocritical claim - without justifying it - that our perceptions of differences are socially engineered, and that if we were raised "properly" we would perceive no differences at all, or would think nothing of them, as if they were meaningless, illusory, or superficial.
So they propose an anti-empirical social engineering and then accuse their adversaries of it - because that is what cowards and hypocrites do.
A liar will be the first to accuse another of lying, to redirect attention, to preempt what will become obvious.
An incel who will never have a sexual relationship will use this as an attack on his perceived enemies.
A thief will be quick to accuse another of thievery, hoping he can get away with it.
Someone who passes has in a crowded elevator may accuse another so as to hide his own guilt...
the examples are numerous.
in this case the idealist promoting social engineering to "train minds" not to perceive divergence will accuse those who see through his plan of promoting social engineering, or may use emotional arguments to compensate for his inability to defend his idealism using reasoning; the one who desperately wants to "change the world" and in his impotence finds others to accuse and make into scapegoats will be the first to accuse others of desiring to change the world.
Do we need to change the world to perceive divergence, or to discriminate accordingly?
No, these are innate qualities of all living organisms, without which evolution fails and live is extinguished.
So, the one who wishes men could not perceive differences and would never discriminate - even if arbitrarily - is the first to accuse others of idealism; the one who wants to socially engineer a "better world" is the first to accuse others of secretly wanting to change what is.
This reduces philosophy - as an exploration of what is - into another political venue promoting self-serving, self-flattering ideological contraptions....and all of it just to conceal their own motives.

As if being raised differently will make reality different.
As if hiding the real, underneath such hypocritical contrivances, will, somehow, conceal it and make reality go away forever; men immune to what they do not perceive or acknowledge...magical language.
As if all subjectivity, all ethical codes are equally valid and lead to the same consequences....why?
Because it is all determined and inevitable - part of a universal plan.

Romantic idealism is rooted in Abrahamism - nihilism: that which usurps the real with an ideal; that which hopes to negate the existent with the abstract.

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On this 9/11 anniversary.
The only way an imbecile can imagine a conspiracy is as a group of individuals planning and carrying out an elaborate scheme...
They can think of no other alternative, because they are simpletons, and their simple minds only works on simple direct ways. Zero creativity. Everything is blunt and obvious. This is why they remain entirely within officially sanctioned narratives, where the "official" refers to whomever they prefer, or like, or gratifies some internal need.
There's a disorder which condemns the sufferer to this condition, which shall remain unnamed.

In the case of 9/11 an elaborate conspiracy was set up for a period of time, and it remained secret despite all the individuals involved.This fact and numerous red flag operations prove that such conspiracies are possible.
Now, if we consider the JFK assassination and all the inconsistencies, and then listen to the official narrative, we know something is off.
In the case of 9/11, 3 building dropped into their foundations, not one toppled over damaging nearby buildings.
The story with Building 7 is particularly interesting.
The Russians have conducted multiple assassinations, just as the Americans have, and nobody knows.
Many African leaders were assassinated by US special operatives.
We can imagine what kind of people work in these operations, and sometimes they are outsourced, as in the case with JFK.

There are numerous ways involving the minimal amount of people that can be used.
One is the most easiest.
There are also multiple ways to discredit theories about conspiracies.
Most people don't want to know and will buy into whatever narrative they are given by their government.

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Because he cannot justify his beliefs on what is known a desperate degenerate justifies them based on what is not known - anti-scientific method; inversion of reasoning.
Power of the infinite, eternal, Nil.

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Nietzsche wrote:
I form circles around me and holy boundaries; ever fewer ascend with me ever higher mountains: I build a mountain-range out of ever holier mountains.—
But wherever ye would ascend with me, O my brethren, take care lest a parasite ascend with you!
A parasite: that is a reptile, a creeping, cringing reptile, that trieth to fatten on your infirm and sore places.
And this is its art: it divineth where ascending souls are weary, in your trouble and dejection, in your sensitive modesty, doth it build its loathsome nest.
Where the strong are weak, where the noble are all-too-gentle—there buildeth it its loathsome nest; the parasite liveth where the great have small sore-places.
What is the highest of all species of being, and what is the lowest? The parasite is the lowest species; he, however, who is of the highest species feedeth most parasites.
For the soul which hath the longest ladder, and can go deepest down: how could there fail to be most parasites upon it?—
The most comprehensive soul, which can run and stray and rove furthest in itself; the most necessary soul, which out of joy flingeth itself into chance:—
The soul in Being, which plungeth into Becoming; the possessing soul, which seeketh to attain desire and longing:—
The soul fleeing from itself, which overtaketh itself in the widest circuit; the wisest soul, unto which folly speaketh most sweetly:—
The soul most self-loving, in which all things have their current and counter-current, their ebb and their flow:—oh, how could the loftiest soul fail to have the worst parasites?
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Nobility is similar in essence to beauty. The destruction of beauty in modernity is the deconstruction of natural hierarchical standards that determine quality and what is superior, which effectually, determine what is weak and inferior.
Thus, nobility, the quality of character and power of oneself, is subjected to the same castigation because it is based in quality determinations of one’s mind and spirit.
So, the one who exudes the noble or Aristocratic ethos, in the same way nature produces symmetry, contrast those who are degenerate, and they find themselves subjected to the same hatred and destructive envy that must reduce all down to its level of weakness. No standards of judgement must be accepted, because then truth would become more pronounced, stronger, and more unforgiving. It is truth that must be rejected at all costs, the truth of oneself being the greatest threat.


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Notice that in the case of iamaretard he's already assumed there is a "good life" and is now asking for evidence or ways to attain it....so as to ridicule it as non-existent.
This is like when Christian hypocrites assume god and then ask for it to be disproved - asking for evidence of what is nowhere in evidence.
This imbecile is using feminine methods.
He has concluded there is no good/bad - this is this fucktards desired conclusion which he already has made after decades of failure to change the world, and his impotence to bring about his ideal world.
So he plays a game, pretending to be interested in finding this elusive ideal world which he has outgrown, but pretends not to have outgrown it, to bait others into his hole his trap.
The trap is triggered when someone takes the imbecile up on his challenge, and attempts to prove a negative, prove what is non-existent...and then he springs his idiotic trap proving, in his demented mind, that there is, in fact, no good or bad.
His understanding of good/bad is as moral categories. He intentionally or not - due to his retardation we can assume that his confusion is unintentional - confuses good/bad with good/evil, true/untrue with moral/immoral.
What he conflates is what is true with what is good, because the two must be the same.

The imbecile has adopted - because he's too stupid to have invented it himself - a method of slandering morality so as to promote collective responsibilities as a universal good; a universal good which now also becomes rational, since nobody can ever be certain about anything.
This falls in with his rejection of free-will in that this "rational" alternative to morality - collectivized responsibility - is part of a universal truth which he cannot justify but can only do so indirectly by nullifying all alternatives.
When all alternatives are slandered, undermined, what is left but a collective compromise; a sacrifice to the nil, which is absolute? It is inevitable - part of universal order - god's will.
God is the nil.
All sacrifices are made to this divinity, i.e., the absent absolute.

So, that piece of internet trash has to find a moral absolutist to negate, disprove, expose, so as to then feel superior to, a version of the imbecilic naive idiot he was in his youth to deride, to feel like he's making a difference, that he's advanced, that he's bringing about his ideal world, the one he failed to produce with Christianity or Marxism. Postmodernism is his final attempt before he disappears into the trash heap of oblivion. ....and when he cannot find him he fabricates one, calling them "objectivists", us or them....either/or.
He's trying to rescue value from a life spent in idiotic naive ideological/dogmatic pursuits - something to make his life something that had meaning and purpose.

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The mental trash-heap of ILP - iamretarded - is now using the hedonistic angle, after having dismissed, as absurd, a culture that has made sex with humans immoral and sex with animals moral - or sex with children or the dead the height of morality and sex with adults or the living immoral degeneracy. Why are these extreme examples absurd...can the trash-heap understand?
No, because what makes them absurd and a "snowball's chance in hell" is based on what this human piece of trash dismisses as "objectivist".....it is what makes his hedonistic culture a sign of decline and degeneracy; it is what would make a culture where heterosexuality was immoral and homosexuality moral also having "a snowball's chance in hell".

It's funny that the very reason he dismisses a culture dedicated to paedophilia, or homosexuality, or necrophiliac forms of hedonism - because these activities also offer pleasure to the practitioners - is exactly what supports nature as the standard against which all human ideologies, hopes, dreams, objectives, choices, judgements, actions must measure themselves.

A final point before I don't pay attention to the trash-heap any more:
Is eating food about the pleasure of eating?
Is drinking water about the pleasure?

We can imagine a world where pleasure of eating was the objective and man dedicated his technologies and techniques only on enhancing and promoting this pleasure, without the consequences; without any collateral effects.
How long would individuals survive if they didn't go against their own pleasure principle objectives?
How long would any culture that made pleasure its objective survive in a world where pain and risk is part of any worthwhile endeavour?

Animals feel pleasure when they practice their mating activities, expunging their libidinal energies...and animals don't know what the objective of copulation is, only being able to feel the immediate pleasure of surrendering to their impulses.
The trash-heap uses this as his "argument", thinking it a "good point" - that's why he repeats it because he is retarded.
Unlike animals - or manimals - humans know that pleasure is but an effect of successfully attaining a biological objective... but the trash-heap wants to remain a manimal, focusing on the pleasure principle as an objective...not able to perceive the negative consequences of such a degeneration to a manimal state of understanding coupled with man's ability to intervene and minimize the true objective.
A culture dedicated to pleasure is no more absurd than one dedicated to necrophilia - here pleasure is also a factor - or paedophilia, or homosexuality, or bestiality.
If sex is a social construct then none of these options would be immoral or any less absurd than any other.
We can imagine a culture that can intervene and minimize the negative side-effects of bestiality or paedophilia or sadomasochism, or any paraphilia, i.e., anything that contradicts the original objective of an activity such as sexual intercourse, or eating food, or drinking water, or drinking alcohol, or injecting yourself with heroin, promoting secondary objectives that contradict the primary one.
Fentanyl also offers a pleasure reward... getting drunk with alcohol is also pleasing...injecting yourself with heroin is also pleasing...
Would a culture focused on these objectives survive?

Dealing with a human trash-heap is futile.

That's why this is my last try.

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What is normal is a pathology and a pathology is normalized....
Confusion via linguistics.
When words are detached from the limitations imposed by natural order they all become meaningless.
Parity via the nil.
All are pathological or all are normal.

If it feels good it is good, and true.
If it feels bad it is not good, and untrue.

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Herd psychology and success strategies.


Two forms of power: Power in others, which would be a form of a ‘surrogate self’, and power in oneself. These minds understand power only by the method of the former, through others and in others; power they cannot give themselves.
Human power relations have to do with self-actualization, the motives and will of the individual and how their identity is structured and valuated in relation to the world, how they fulfill their drives and expectations of themselves; the self is the source of motives.
Any association has to bear some trait which corresponds to the needs of the individual and how they identify with themselves, how their identity is validated by certain significations they receive from externals, significations they seek out, they create.
‘Power over others’ is an inferior shallow superficial form of power, because all are separate agents of will and choice, no matter how attached they are to someone or something else, it’s only conditional, and so power over others is really only ‘influence’ or ‘affect’ upon others because all are left ultimately to themselves to make their own choices.
So, investing one’s power in others, means sacrificing it, losing it in others, and so losing any sense of self, becoming only a means for others to exploit for themselves. By consequence one becomes attached to others as the source of their own power which exists only by collective recognition, creating an illusory and false sense of self subject to the fickle whims and vulgarity of others.
Power over oneself is the only true power because it is the only accessible power that can be realized more in degree than any other form. It is the only form of power that can be ‘experienced’ in its rawness and therefore, in its truth.
Oneself and their needs, is the closest to real power one can get, and this is what power of indifference means; that identity can be validated in many ways other than through others, and so the attachment to others loses its connection once one develops the ability to make more nuanced connections with the world based on developing a deeper understanding of how one relates to them, and more importantly, what it means, based on how they test their identity against them. It is far more challenging and difficult to pursue this kind of power because it requires one to detach themselves from their impulses toward collective validation, and instead cultivate it for themselves. Inferior minds always wish to be master over others.

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